Re: Good vim configuration?
Hi Thomas, * Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Die 25 Dez 2001 12:14:19 GMT]: [ ... reformating paragraphs in replys ... ] I use par(1), http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~amc/Par/ How (with which parameters) do you use it? I saw it a few months ago but got confused with parameters... Ciao, Gregor
Re: Good vim configuration?
* Gregor Zattler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Thomas Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Die 25 Dez 2001 12:14:19 GMT]: [ ... reformating paragraphs in replys ... ] I use par(1), http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~amc/Par/ How (with which parameters) do you use it? I saw it a few months ago but got confused with parameters... I stole PARINIT=grTbiqR B=.?_A_a Q=_s:| from someone and call it with the number of the column to wrap at as an argument, i.e. 'par 72'. -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/ - FORTRAN is not a flower but a weed -- it is hardy, occasionally blooms, and grows in every computer. -- A.J. Perlis
Re: Good vim configuration?
Alas! Thomas Hurst spake thus: How (with which parameters) do you use it? I saw it a few months ago but got confused with parameters... I stole PARINIT=grTbiqR B=.?_A_a Q=_s:| from someone and call it with If I'm not mistaken, that looks _exactly_ like what the man page tells you to use if you want to use par now, but understand it later. Then again, maybe it just looks vaguely similar and I don't know enough about par to recognize this :) the number of the column to wrap at as an argument, i.e. 'par 72'. I just call 'par', the default wrap column seems reasonable to me :) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it. -- George W. Bush msg22054/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Good vim configuration?
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Alas! Thomas Hurst spake thus: I stole PARINIT=grTbiqR B=.?_A_a Q=_s:| from someone and call it with If I'm not mistaken, that looks _exactly_ like what the man page tells you to use if you want to use par now, but understand it later. Then again, maybe it just looks vaguely similar and I don't know enough about par to recognize this :) The man page states: 'rTbgqR B=.,?_A_a Q=_s|', there's an extra 'i' in mine which I'm sure does something l337 and magical I can't live without. A quick look through the mutt-* and vim* lists I'm likely to have grabbed it from doesn't show anything, so who knows :) Q= is presumably 'Quote', with _s being a space and | being the character classes it matches. B= is 'Body', mathing all upper and lowercase chacters, '.', ',' and '?'. 'i' is apparantly invis, which seems to remove empty lines added by a quote string. 'e' is a more powerful variant removing all superfluous lines. Other interesting looking entries are 'j' to justify (and a similar 'f' option), 'l' to try to keep the last line from being too short, 'q' which adds blank lines between quote levels, 'T4', which converts tabs to the One True Tabstop using spaces (something I normally hate :). Wow, that PARINIT's actually starting to make sense now. Damn those manpages. And yes, the default wrap is 72 anyway, but I like being explicit, usually :) -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/ - Money is the root of all evil, and man needs roots
Re: Good vim configuration?
Alas! Thomas Hurst spake thus: I stole PARINIT=grTbiqR B=.?_A_a Q=_s:| from someone and call it with If I'm not mistaken, that looks _exactly_ like what the man page tells you to use if you want to use par now, but understand it later. Then again, maybe it just looks vaguely similar and I don't know enough about par to recognize this :) The man page states: 'rTbgqR B=.,?_A_a Q=_s|', there's an extra 'i' in mine which I'm sure does something l337 and magical I can't live without. A quick look through the mutt-* and vim* lists I'm likely to have grabbed it from doesn't show anything, so who knows :) Q= is presumably 'Quote', with _s being a space and | being the character classes it matches. I don't believe that is true. IIRC, par handles David's '%' quote char just fine. I thought it just looked for any string of characters that appeared in more than one consecutive line, and then appended that to the beginning of anything it wrapped (which is why it seems to fail on me whenever I wrap one very long line, but works with any quotes when I wrap several slightly long lines). I'll read the man page though, it'll give me something to do to take my mind off the Evils of Windows (Just spent ~5 hours trying to install windows on Dad's computer. Lets just say that if I had a time machine and a shotgun, nobody would have ever heard of Bill Gates or Microsoft). B= is 'Body', mathing all upper and lowercase chacters, '.', ',' and '?'. Body? of what, the line? 'i' is apparantly invis, which seems to remove empty lines added by a quote string. 'e' is a more powerful variant removing all superfluous lines. Other interesting looking entries are 'j' to justify (and a similar 'f' option), 'l' to try to keep the last line from being too short, 'q' which adds blank lines between quote levels, 'T4', which converts tabs to the One True Tabstop using spaces (something I normally hate :). That's some interesting stuff. I'll be certain to read that man page right away :) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity. -- Albert Einstein msg22066/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Good vim configuration?
Philip, et al --
...and then Philip Mak said...
%
% I tinkered around a bit more and came up with this code for making Ctrl+J
% (justify paragraph) work, even with quoted text.
Cool -- I like it a lot (or at least the *Para functions).
%
% It assumes that ^[ ]*$ is the paragraph separator, meaning that any line
% which is blank or only contains '' and ' ' separates a paragraph. Here is
% the full code for making Ctrl+J work:
I'm sure I can figure out how to change that to '% ' so that it works for
me ;-)
...
% I'll keep refining this as I use it more and find any quirks. (If anyone
% here actually uses my code and has comments please let me know. :)
While I won't rebind to ctrl-j, I'll definitely use it for paragraph
hopping, which means it will get used in my f and F bindings.
%
% BTW, regarding those other suggestions involving binding fmt or par
% to a key, isn't it slow to fork a process every time you press the
% rejustify key, or is that overhead negligible?
I've thought of that, but I haven't ever been able to see any problems
with it, so I think the latter is the answer. I shell out to do
spell checking and sorting, too, and so perhaps I'm just used to it.
More importantly, though, I've tried to stick with a configuration that
works under stock vi on any system because I get dropped into so many
in my work. [I think I might be able to get away with this because {}
will still behave normally in a non-mail-reply environment, and if I am
replying to mail I can ensure that vim is loaded :-]
:-D
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Re: Good vim configuration?
BTW, regarding those other suggestions involving binding fmt or par to a key, isn't it slow to fork a process every time you press the rejustify key, or is that overhead negligible? it really depends on how often you do it (I don't do this one, but have equivalent cases in mind). -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: Good vim configuration?
On Tue 25-Dec-2001 at 06:33:15AM -0500, Philip Mak wrote: I'm used to using pine's editor, which handles filling of paragraphs (even if they start with due to quoting) fairly nicely. I'm wondering what configurations for .vimrc do you guys use for use with mutt? I don't know where it came from originally, but this $editor setting in my muttrc seems to do it all: # F10 reflows the current paragraph and F11 toggles indenting so # paste works properly. set editor=vim \ -c 'set tw=72 et' \ -c 'set autoindent' \ -c 'set formatoptions=tcq2' \ -c 'set syntax=mail' \ -c 'map F10 gqap' \ -c 'set pastetoggle=F11' In a similar vein, this $ispell works quite well for me too: # spell colour properly and ignore quoted text set ispell='aspell \ --language-tag=en_GB \ --mode=email \ --add-email-quote=%,#,:,} \ --check' -- Bruno
Good vim configuration?
I'm used to using pine's editor, which handles filling of paragraphs (even if they start with due to quoting) fairly nicely. How can I achieve the same thing in vi? I'd like to be able to bind a key such that when I press it, it automatically refills the current paragraph smartly. Some automatic line wrapping would be nice, too... I'm wondering what configurations for .vimrc do you guys use for use with mutt?
Re: Good vim configuration?
Le 25/12/01 à 06:33, Philip Mak écrivit:
I'm used to using pine's editor, which handles filling of paragraphs (even
if they start with due to quoting) fairly nicely.
How can I achieve the same thing in vi? I'd like to be able to bind a key
such that when I press it, it automatically refills the current paragraph
smartly. Some automatic line wrapping would be nice, too... I'm wondering
what configurations for .vimrc do you guys use for use with mutt?
I don't have anything mutt-specific in my .vimrc. Butt gqap works quite
well for me. More info (in vim): :h gq.
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Re: Good vim configuration?
On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 06:33:15AM -0500, Philip Mak (dis)graced my inbox with: I'm used to using pine's editor, which handles filling of paragraphs (even if they start with due to quoting) fairly nicely. How can I achieve the same thing in vi? I'd like to be able to bind a key such that when I press it, it automatically refills the current paragraph smartly. Some automatic line wrapping would be nice, too... I'm wondering what configurations for .vimrc do you guys use for use with mutt? I've been meaning to write a script that will reformat text properly, handling quoting properly, but I haven't had time yet (and probably won't until at least January). I'm pretty sure somebody else here has done it already, though... perhaps he is willing to share? -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- People who think MS-DOS and Windows are the slickest thing since sliced butter should be forced to wear a sign stating This mind intentionally left blank. msg21875/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Good vim configuration?
* Philip Mak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: How can I achieve the same thing in vi? I'd like to be able to bind a key such that when I press it, it automatically refills the current paragraph smartly. Some automatic line wrapping would be nice, too... I'm wondering what configurations for .vimrc do you guys use for use with mutt? I use par(1), http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~amc/Par/ -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/ - When confronted by a difficult problem, you can solve it more easily by reducing it to the question, How would the Lone Ranger handle this?
Re: Good vim configuration?
I did some digging around Google and came up with this:
[pmak@lina pmak]$ cat .muttvimrc
map C-J {gq} # Ctrl+J rejustifies current paragraph
set formatoptions=tcroqv# see :help formatoptions
set comments=nb: # rejustify quoted text correctly
set tw=75 # wrap lines to 75 chars
[pmak@lina pmak]$ egrep editor .muttrc
# load a special vimrc when starting vim from mutt
# and start the cursor at the end of the headers
set editor=vim -u ~/.muttvimrc +/^$
It doesn't seem to work with all recent versions of VIM, though. It's very
weird---version 6.0z Beta (2001 Mar 24) seems to ignore whatever I put in
set comments. On version 6.0 (2001 Sep 26), the set comments thing
works but I can't map any control keys for some reason (!). I'm still
trying to figure that out.
But the reformatting of lines, even ones with multiple levels of quoted
text, seems to work.
Re: Good vim configuration?
On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 12:14:19PM +, Thomas Hurst wrote: * Philip Mak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: How can I achieve the same thing in vi? I'd like to be able to bind a key such that when I press it, it automatically refills the current paragraph smartly. Some automatic line wrapping would be nice, too... I'm wondering what configurations for .vimrc do you guys use for use with mutt? I use par(1), http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~amc/Par/ It (flowing with mail-quotes) is a builtin in vim and vile. -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: Good vim configuration?
Philip -- ...and then Philip Mak said... % % I'm used to using pine's editor, which handles filling of paragraphs (even % if they start with due to quoting) fairly nicely. % % How can I achieve the same thing in vi? I'd like to be able to bind a key % such that when I press it, it automatically refills the current paragraph % smartly. Some automatic line wrapping would be nice, too... I'm wondering % what configurations for .vimrc do you guys use for use with mutt? fmt won't work for quoted text, but a command like map f !} fmt -c map F !} fmt -c -w 78 in your .exrc will bind the f and F keys to pump your current paragraph through fmt -- which is particularly handy if you are using just vi and don't have the additional features of vim (you mentioned vim in the subject but vi in the body so perhaps, as I, you use both). HTH HAND Merry Christmas to all! :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21879/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Good vim configuration?
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 06:33:15AM -0500, Philip Mak (dis)graced my inbox with: % I'm used to using pine's editor, which handles filling of paragraphs (even % if they start with due to quoting) fairly nicely. % % How can I achieve the same thing in vi? I'd like to be able to bind a key % such that when I press it, it automatically refills the current paragraph % smartly. Some automatic line wrapping would be nice, too... I'm wondering % what configurations for .vimrc do you guys use for use with mutt? % % I've been meaning to write a script that will reformat text properly, % handling quoting properly, but I haven't had time yet (and probably % won't until at least January). I'm pretty sure somebody else here has % done it already, though... perhaps he is willing to share? It's called par, and it's much more than a script :-) If fmt isn't good enough for you, then par will certainly leave you happy. % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % People who think MS-DOS and Windows are the slickest thing since % sliced butter should be forced to wear a sign stating This mind % intentionally left blank. HTH HAND Merry Christmas to all! :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21880/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Good vim configuration?
Philip -- ...and then David T-G said... % % ...and then Philip Mak said... % % % % smartly. Some automatic line wrapping would be nice, too... I'm wondering Oh, yeah. There're both tw (text width) and wm (wrap margin); both have their advantages. % HTH HAND % % % Merry Christmas to all! :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg21881/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Good vim configuration?
You can do anything you want to your docment with shell commands. eg. :1,5 !fmt will close up lines 1 to 5. or: !}fmt will do the same to the next paragraph break (blank line). info fmt will show you some options. You could write a very short script to do just want you want and bind it to a key. Joel On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 06:33:15AM -0500, Philip Mak wrote: I'm used to using pine's editor, which handles filling of paragraphs (even if they start with due to quoting) fairly nicely. How can I achieve the same thing in vi? I'd like to be able to bind a key such that when I press it, it automatically refills the current paragraph smartly. Some automatic line wrapping would be nice, too... I'm wondering what configurations for .vimrc do you guys use for use with mutt?
Re: Good vim configuration?
I tinkered around a bit more and came up with this code for making Ctrl+J
(justify paragraph) work, even with quoted text.
It assumes that ^[ ]*$ is the paragraph separator, meaning that any line
which is blank or only contains '' and ' ' separates a paragraph. Here is
the full code for making Ctrl+J work:
[pmak@lina pmak]$ cat .muttvimrc
function! PrevPara()
if !search(^[ ]*$, 'bW')
1
endif
endfunction
function! NextPara()
if !search(^[ ]*$, 'W')
$
endif
endfunction
set formatoptions=tcqv
set comments=nb:
set tw=75
set cpo-=
map { :call PrevPara()ENTER
map } :call NextPara()ENTER
map C-J {gq}j
[pmak@lina pmak]$ egrep editor .muttrc
set editor=vim -u ~/.muttvimrc +/^$
I'll keep refining this as I use it more and find any quirks. (If anyone
here actually uses my code and has comments please let me know. :)
BTW, regarding those other suggestions involving binding fmt or par
to a key, isn't it slow to fork a process every time you press the
rejustify key, or is that overhead negligible?
