Re: PESO 2010 - 020 - GDG (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
A short hiatus but now I'm back on the blog ... http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/fog-at-dawn Comments always appreciated, thanks for looking! Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com Godfrey, Great image! I really like your treatment of the lights and their play against the deep backdrop adds quite a lot of drama to the scene. JayT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - What is Art?
From: frank theriault I'm not sure, but I don't think this is it: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-is-art.html Okay, I was being facetious - but if this is art, it's not good art. If that makes me a snob, I'm willing to live with that... Looks like the bastard child of Hentai and that old big sad eye waif school of painting. Good photo though. Wonder why they've got the broom stuck in the front door? The broom is a rather heavy-handed and obvious reference to Fox-Talbot, which also serves metaphorically and anaphrastically as a door jamb, barring access to art to those outside, while the plate glazing symbolises the invisible barrier between the artist and her intended audience. Yet the broom also unites, for is it not the device over which newly-weds jump into their reinvented world? And does the broom not then bring together the sublime and the vernacular, thereby regendering the whole? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/01/2010, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: And even more, if you are seriously mayonnaised you are going to do irrepairable damage to the motor. Hmm, mayonnaised, never heard it called that but the water to oil inter-cooler in my Porsche blew an o-ring, the oil and water were literally like mayo but the engine survived quite well. It's often found (less so with modern oils and engine design) in the cooler parts of the motor, such as rocker covers. In an engine that is seriously underused, for example making sub-one-mile journeys for a year or so, it can start to fill (float on the top of the oil) the sump. If said engine is subsequently used normally the emulsion of oil and water can be drawn into the lubrication system where its very poor lubrication qualities can be brought to the front with the expected results, especially as, in that scenario, the water can be boiled off to some extent. In your case, I suspect that the higher oil than water pressure kept the majority of the water out of the oil. Small amounts of water in the sump, running around at the bottom of the pan with some slight emulsifying, is normal in even heavily used motors - I have never known that be removed by the apochryphal Italian tune-up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
On 26/1/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-is-art.html Okay, I was being facetious - but if this is art, it's not good art. If that makes me a snob, I'm willing to live with that... The broom is art. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Sand Abstracts
http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=492318 Very impressive - well seen. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Paris des Reves
Bob W wrote: I will be visiting Paris from 11-14th April. While I'm there I plan to see the Izis exhibition at the Hotel de Ville. If anybody would care to join me for a Paris PDML ca serait tres sympa. At the moment Eurostar fares between London and Paris are very cheap. Hotels, en revanche, are very expensive because of the crappy pound. Bob Years ago we stayed in a little hotel in the 4th arrondissement near the Hotel de Ville. Fourth floor walk-up, WC at the end of the hall and a shower, curiously, in the middle of the room. I've stayed in places like that when I was younger. There was a place I went to a few times with a gf which was on the rue Quincampoix, just a few steps from the Hotel de Ville. The street used to be full of brothels many years before, and Kertesz and/or Brassai photographed les putes there. http://www.tate.org.uk/tateetc/issue9/images/emblemearthly_unefille.jpg Such hotels don't seem to exist any more. Either that or my tolerance for them has diminished as my income has increased. Wish I could join you. Street shooting in Paris would be fun. I wish you could too - it would be fun. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Cranking up the color
Cranking up the color, heres a couple I noodled around with in PS. http://www.jchriso.com/temp/treestwo.jpg http://www.jchriso.com/temp/padstwo.jpg -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When did it click
John Poirier wrote: Hi. I've subscribed to this group since the late '90s but have been active only sporadically. I check in to see what's happening quite often, though. Now I'm an empty nester, hoping to have more time to participate. This will serve nicely as a re-introduction. I got seriously interested in photography in 1971 when I spent the first of two summers on Devon Island in the Canadian Arctic. I bought a Taron rangefinder to record the experience. Greatly enjoyed learning to use it. By the end of that summer I had decided to live in the North and to be a photographer.. By 1975 I was living in the Yukon and working hard at teaching myself photography. In 1979 I landed my first full-time photographic job at a newspaper in Alberta. After two years I went North again, to the Northwest Territories, and from 1986 to 2006 was the photographer at a museum in Yellowknife. These days I'm retired in British Columbia, shooting and selling some fine art work. I've also gone back to my roots, playing with screw mount and early K mount gear shooting bulk loaded black and white. My web site (whcih I don't update often enough) is: www.johnpoirier.ca Cheers John Poirier Now that is one of the loveliest galleries I've seen in a while. Highly gorgeous D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO The PDML book submission that wasn't
Rob Studdert wrote: Well it, seemed like a good idea at the time, no point putting the edit to waste completely: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/BigVdub/Pics/2009_pano_composite.jpg Critiques, comments and condemnations welcome ;-) What? Why not? Could one of these not be a centrefold? D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO 2010 - 020 - GDG
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: PESO 2010 - 020 - GDG A short hiatus but now I'm back on the blog ... http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/fog-at-dawn Comments always appreciated, thanks for looking! Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com That's a gorgeous picture Godfrey. I love the tone you've rendered. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When did it click
Cotty wrote: Okay I'll bite. Given a no-name twin lens reflex when I was 9 by a friend of the family to photograph a sea voyage between Liverpool and Montreal that I made with my mother and grandmother and a sister to rejoin my father and other sister in California. (Montreal to Vancouver by train). Later used my mum's Instamatic a lot. Then I wandered the streets of Southport (UK) carrying my dad's 8mm movie camera, filming anything that moved. I was 16. Still am. I think this is endlessly fascinating, how first impressions shape how you are today. Not surprising, just fascinating. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Salon des Refusés for the PDML book
Just thinking, and I don't want to cause any controversy. After the PDML book comes out, since we will have a surplus of shots, would anyone be interested in seeing an internet gallery salon of the submitted photos that didn't make it into the book? I know I would. I'm sure that will still be a quality gallery. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO The PDML book submission that wasn't
On 26/01/2010, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Well I rather fancy the 2nd one - all are great, but there is something about it that catches my eye. I think it might be the strip of land in the center of a pano...or something. Hi Bruce, I'm always in two minds about this image, don't think it would have worked at all well had I not included enough of the area to the sides. Thanks for commenting. Oh and thanks too Mr Savage. On 26/01/2010, David Mann dm...@bluemoon.net.nz wrote: Yes it is interesting, it's a bit of a break from the usual horizontalness of panoramas. I've always found pans to be really hard to do well. I still do! Cheers On 26/01/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Beautiful shots individually. Doesn't work as a unit. The top one is really lovely - just needs Jennifer Agutter swimming around in there. Thanks Bob, I agree about the concept, it was the constraints of the image sizing for the book that prompted the attempt. At least I didn't have to Google Jennifer this time, the view was instantly in my mind! On 26/01/2010, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: I really like that, always been partial to compilations like that. Thanks for the kind comment ;-) On 27/01/2010, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Very nice. Makes me want to visit. You'll always be made welcome Paul On 27/01/2010, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: The 2nd and the last one works for me. Hi Dave, thanks, I think they all work independently, I suspect it would require sifting through quite a lot of material to get four panos to sync harmoniously in this type of format. Cheers On 27/01/2010, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: They're all nice but I like the top one best. I think you could slightly burn in the sand at bottom center and left, but that's quibbling. Hi Mark, you're right and I've been caught. The sand was a little burnt out, maybe I should have used the RAW files instead of just being lazy and resorting to the in-camera produced jpgs as my source files ;-) The next one down is also really good. I can't decide if the lens flare detracts or adds character to the shot. :) I don't mind it so much, I just wish the loss of contrast wasn't so great, I guess I could mask it with a gradient and then apply USM with a very large radius to restore some contrast? The third one down isn't anything special and the blown-out highlights in the clouds are really obvious. It's quite impressive at full res, and again the source files are only jpeg but in my defence the day was particularly bring and if I had held the exposure to maintain the detail in the clouds I would have lost a lot of detail at ground level. Unfortunately it was grabbed quite quickly during a site visit and I couldn't even think of shooting HDR due to time and equipment constraints. The bottom pano of Sydney is really good, but it's been done a lot. Indeed, that was shot when I was taking some overseas visitors around to see the sights, it was just a grab shot really. Cheers. On 27/01/2010, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Still, it's very nice, although I wonder what's going on with the bridge in the bottom one. Thanks for commenting John, it's a bit sad but for many months the bridge simply had a great section of lights out of action. Cheers On 27/01/2010, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: The individual images are great, and I like the composite as well. Thanks Dan! On 27/01/2010, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: What? Why not? Could one of these not be a centrefold? Hey D, you're makin' me blush ;-) The plight of the pano, really only good for a damn long print, a pain to put in a book and not really suited to most electronic displays, but I still like em. Thanks for taking the time to comment. I did finally make a single submission for the PDML book (thanks for all the hard work Mark et al.), I think it's OK, it was a hard slog this year, not the most inspiring and relatively few opportunities (barring my little guy and work). Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Darn the US isn't Going to allow in Haggis
On Jan 26, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Graydon wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 08:40:40PM +, Þráinn Vigfússon scripsit: If you ever wonder why some northern Europeans drink schnaps with their dinner, now you know. I have heard it vehemently asserted that any local delicacy customarily consumed with strong drink really exists as a sort of pre-penitential excuse to consume the strong drink, and that one is really much better off forgetting the delicacy and sticking to the strong drink. Well, then- That explains that shot of Jameson's Irish. Cheers Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Peso Bus for John S.
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I still don't. I never have. Even though I'm considered overweight, if I just sit in the water my whole body sinks down until I'm vertical with just my nose sticking out of the water. Like a shark, I have to keep moving in the water or I'll die. -Charles That can't be right. There must be something wrong with the seawater in Minnesota. I see from the map that there's a village near you called Eau Claire. I think that's probably your problem - French seawater. They've been diluting it again? Grenouilles! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Darn the US isn't Going to allow in Haggis
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: a variant on the McHeimlich manoeuvre uniquely caught on film here at 6minutes precisely. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8atKXFZefA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Darn the US isn't Going to allow in Haggis
Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 08:40:40PM +, Þráinn Vigfússon scripsit: If you ever wonder why some northern Europeans drink schnaps with their dinner, now you know. I have heard it vehemently asserted that any local delicacy customarily consumed with strong drink really exists as a sort of pre-penitential excuse to consume the strong drink, and that one is really much better off forgetting the delicacy and sticking to the strong drink. If you tried that in Poland or Russia you would be dead in a fortnight. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Salon des Refusés f or the PDML book
Derby Chang wrote: Just thinking, and I don't want to cause any controversy. After the PDML book comes out, since we will have a surplus of shots, would anyone be interested in seeing an internet gallery salon of the submitted photos that didn't make it into the book? I know I would. I'm sure that will still be a quality gallery. That's an excellent idea. It's going to be heartbreaking, some of the ones we have to leave out. It would also be interesting to see some shots people thought about submitting before changing their minds and going with different shots. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Salon des Refusés for the PDML book
Why not a PUG theme? Dario - Original Message - From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:37 AM Subject: Salon des Refusés for the PDML book Just thinking, and I don't want to cause any controversy. After the PDML book comes out, since we will have a surplus of shots, would anyone be interested in seeing an internet gallery salon of the submitted photos that didn't make it into the book? I know I would. I'm sure that will still be a quality gallery. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: they got back to me after all
0/1/27 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: I've never drunk a photographer. me neither but I once ate drunken frog in Kuala Lumpur I once drunk a lumpy koala with eight frogs oh did you? well guess what I once humped one funky mama in the late fog Better than a lumpy monkey and a late dog and even better than a grumpy hog with a late clock and totally better than the shriveled log of a wanna-be gamecock and better yet than a shrimp size cock wallaby playing hard rock but not as nice as a toy-boy roadie singin'like a bard. never forget boyish toads squish like lard under your car or that girly queues swing like hemp in springtime temps yes but girlygirl's queueballs switch numbers after a drag of l'hempe de printemps -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: The broom is a rather heavy-handed and obvious reference to Fox-Talbot, which also serves metaphorically and anaphrastically as a door jamb, barring access to art to those outside, while the plate glazing symbolises the invisible barrier between the artist and her intended audience. Yet the broom also unites, for is it not the device over which newly-weds jump into their reinvented world? And does the broom not then bring together the sublime and the vernacular, thereby regendering the whole? ~Exactly~ my thoughts as I passed the storefront, saw the scene and put camera to eye! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: they got back to me after all
2010/1/27 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 0/1/27 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: I've never drunk a photographer. me neither but I once ate drunken frog in Kuala Lumpur I once drunk a lumpy koala with eight frogs oh did you? well guess what I once humped one funky mama in the late fog Better than a lumpy monkey and a late dog and even better than a grumpy hog with a late clock and totally better than the shriveled log of a wanna-be gamecock and better yet than a shrimp size cock wallaby playing hard rock but not as nice as a toy-boy roadie singin'like a bard. never forget boyish toads squish like lard under your car or that girly queues swing like hemp in springtime temps yes but girlygirl's queueballs switch numbers after a drag of l'hempe de printemps or do girlygirl eyeballs spin like vamps queuing for l'hempe de printemps? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Please Ignore Me (too)
2010/1/26 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: I think that the law of gravity is unfair and should be repealed. Perhaps Gerlich and Tscheuschner could prove it hasn't got its thermodynamics right and thus is just a plot to harm the economy =P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2010 - 020 - GDG
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: A short hiatus but now I'm back on the blog ... http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/fog-at-dawn Comments always appreciated, thanks for looking! Stunning! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW - and new web site
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:00 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: A few years ago a did have a PAW (picture-a-week) but gave it up. Now, I´ve made a new web site and some more time. The kids are getting big and I got tired of the old web forum I used, www.foto.no So, here´s the first PAW http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1002-full.html and the web site is here: http://www.thrane.name/ No time to look at the new site just now (getting ready to head out to work) but that's a ~wonderful~ portrait! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Abstracts
Sand Waves framing is especially well chosen. All pleasing. Jack --- On Tue, 1/26/10, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: GESO - Sand Abstracts To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 5:24 PM Interesting. I like Sand Waves and Feathers the best. i find those quite appealing. Excellent work. The others, while intriguing, are less than attractive. Like a picture of a weathered and scarred face, unattractive can be a point of interest, but I'm torn on those. Paul On Jan 26, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Tom C wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=492318 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Optio I-10 sure looks cute
Pentax hasn't really come out that good in comparison tests when it comes to their recent PS models, at least not in the tests I've read, and my own personal experience with the 750Z, which is also a model that sold somewhat on it's looks, was not too impressive. On the W80 (a model I was curious about) the dpreview reads, in part: With the W80 Pentax has managed to improve performance in some areas while losing speed in others, resulting in a middle-of-the-pack overall result. It was one of the slowest focusing cameras in this group, taking 1.3 seconds to achieve focus lock (only the Olympus Tough 6000 was slower). What do you get when you take a small sensor set behind a wide-range zoom lens and increase the resolution? The answer in this case appears to be that you take a camera that produced quite good image quality and turn it into one of the worst in this group test. With the increase in resolution has come increased noise levels, the overall results from the W80 were not as successful as the W60. There are ISO 3200 and 6400 settings, but with the increase in high ISO noise they are even less useful than on the W60. The W80 performed much like the W60 in the water where it was not the best but certainly not the worst performer in terms of image quality, with the sometimes clunky menu system proving to be an obstacle to efficient picture taking. Pentax wouldn't be my first choice for a PS, unless the given model stood above it's peers. Tom C. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:31 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: My bet is this is a collection of off the shelf parts on a generic frame with a custom shell. The only saving grace is the lens might be genuine Pentax, but that's not guaranteed either. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
Art is a man with no arms and legs that hangs on the wall. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:04 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: The broom is a rather heavy-handed and obvious reference to Fox-Talbot, which also serves metaphorically and anaphrastically as a door jamb, barring access to art to those outside, while the plate glazing symbolises the invisible barrier between the artist and her intended audience. Yet the broom also unites, for is it not the device over which newly-weds jump into their reinvented world? And does the broom not then bring together the sublime and the vernacular, thereby regendering the whole? ~Exactly~ my thoughts as I passed the storefront, saw the scene and put camera to eye! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Christ Church Cathedral
Ditto what Bruce said. The person in the second one gives a nice feeling of scale as well. Tom C On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Quite spectacular architecture. Overall I like the first the best due to the ceiling. But the second exhibits a bit better lighting on the lower sections. Pretty cool stuff. I bet you were glad to have the wide reach of that fisheye... -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 6:42:28 PM, you wrote: RW Two views of the interior, which is one of my favorite spaces: RW Looking toward the front from the transept: RW http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10576378 RW And looking toward the back: RW http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10576379 RW (K10D, DA 10-17, ISO 800) RW Rick RW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When did it click
I got hold of my dad's Petri 7s when I was three and the fascination never ceased... On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Friend-shooter of mind asked me today, when did it click for you? When did you know photography was the game to be in? Oddly, unlike a lot of my past history, I could pinpoint exactly the moment I was sent out by my then-employer to do some work in Simi Valley, CA. Bored, I picked up a Ricoh KR-10M with a modest Rikonen zoom (both long since stolen). Landing on the weekend, I went for a drive down PCH to adjust my body clock, with a plan to visit the Getty museum. After being rejected because I hadn't booked, and after finding a not quite legal park on the beach, I saw a pretty lady with a pet pig. Not understanding the honourable history of street photography, I begged her to let me take a photo, which she did, to my gratitude. It could have gone the other way, but that shot made me think, there was something to this hobby. Fine-boned ladies will let you take their picture with their pig, what's not to enjoy? http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_01/10_01_click/index.htm So.when did it first click for you? D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
On 2010-01-27 3:44, mike wilson wrote: Small amounts of water in the sump, running around at the bottom of the pan with some slight emulsifying, is normal in even heavily used motors - I have never known that be removed by the apochryphal Italian tune-up. The water is the excuse for an Italian tune up, not the reason. :-) Others include carbon on the valves and the ever popular carbon on the spark plugs. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: they got back to me after all
- Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 6:58 AM Subject: Re: they got back to me after all 2010/1/27 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 0/1/27 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: I've never drunk a photographer. me neither but I once ate drunken frog in Kuala Lumpur I once drunk a lumpy koala with eight frogs oh did you? well guess what I once humped one funky mama in the late fog Better than a lumpy monkey and a late dog and even better than a grumpy hog with a late clock and totally better than the shriveled log of a wanna-be gamecock and better yet than a shrimp size cock wallaby playing hard rock but not as nice as a toy-boy roadie singin'like a bard. never forget boyish toads squish like lard under your car or that girly queues swing like hemp in springtime temps yes but girlygirl's queueballs switch numbers after a drag of l'hempe de printemps or do girlygirl eyeballs spin like vamps queuing for l'hempe de printemps? Oui! Oui! Like vamps. And they're cheered as champs for their wow-man pro temps. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
That is the best painting of a broom i have ever seen. Nice shot Frank Dave On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:55 PM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure, but I don't think this is it: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-is-art.html Okay, I was being facetious - but if this is art, it's not good art. If that makes me a snob, I'm willing to live with that... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:17 AM, Doug Franklin wrote: On 2010-01-27 3:44, mike wilson wrote: Small amounts of water in the sump, running around at the bottom of the pan with some slight emulsifying, is normal in even heavily used motors - I have never known that be removed by the apochryphal Italian tune-up. The water is the excuse for an Italian tune up, not the reason. :-) Others include carbon on the valves and the ever popular carbon on the spark plugs. The emulsified water in the bottom of the pan isn't substantially reduced at high temperature, but condensation that forms inside the engine when it's shut down will evaporate if the engine comes up to full operating temperature and remains there for a while. Repeated short trips that never get the temperature up will cause more water to accumulate. I've seen huge amounts of oil pan water accumulation in vehicles that were operated without a thermostat in the cooling system. Paul -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2010 - 020 - GDG
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: A short hiatus but now I'm back on the blog ... http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/fog-at-dawn Comments always appreciated, thanks for looking! Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com that's actually an incredibly beautiful and serene image. I love it. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2010 - 020 - GDG
That's beautiful Dave On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: A short hiatus but now I'm back on the blog ... http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/fog-at-dawn Comments always appreciated, thanks for looking! Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Christ Church Cathedral
A bit more partial to the first one, but both are great. Dave On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Two views of the interior, which is one of my favorite spaces: Looking toward the front from the transept: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10576378 And looking toward the back: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10576379 (K10D, DA 10-17, ISO 800) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Abstracts
Feathers and sand waves are interesting. Dave On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=492318 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Joseph Tainter jtain...@mindspring.com wrote: According to Pentax USA these problems are just internet hysteria. Joe Reminds me when i had my first bout of trouble with my then new D2H. The AF board was/is prone to crapping out leaving the camera useless. A number of Nikon boards were talking about the problem. I drove the camera to Nikon here in Toronto. I had to as no one would call me back, sound familiar.??? I mentioned this stuff to the assistant manager of the service department and he told me this is very rare and lies spread on the Internet. About 2 weeks later a recall on Nikons web site for the D2H and this exact problem. Internet hysteria, i think now. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2010 - 020 - GDG
A very pleasing scene and nice composition, Godfrey. For me, though, the rendering is a bit dark. At the very least, I would lighten the clouds (but not the fog) and the water a bit. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com Subject: PESO 2010 - 020 - GDG To: SeePhoto Talk seeph...@micapeak.com, DUG digitalusersgr...@yahoogroups.com, baphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com, PAW Picture-A-Week project p...@micapeak.com, PDML List PDML@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 6:03 PM A short hiatus but now I'm back on the blog ... http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/fog-at-dawn Comments always appreciated, thanks for looking! Godfrey -- a photo blog: http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Salon des Refusés for the PDML book
That is an excellent idea, but the way the PUG has been going, the 2011 book might be out by the time we see the 2010 leftovers. --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Why not a PUG theme? Dario - Original Message - From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:37 AM Subject: Salon des Refusés for the PDML book Just thinking, and I don't want to cause any controversy. After the PDML book comes out, since we will have a surplus of shots, would anyone be interested in seeing an internet gallery salon of the submitted photos that didn't make it into the book? I know I would. I'm sure that will still be a quality gallery. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
woo hoo back on track porsche should have stuck with air cooling anyway cheers ecke 2010/1/27 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Joseph Tainter jtain...@mindspring.com wrote: According to Pentax USA these problems are just internet hysteria. Joe Reminds me when i had my first bout of trouble with my then new D2H. The AF board was/is prone to crapping out leaving the camera useless. A number of Nikon boards were talking about the problem. I drove the camera to Nikon here in Toronto. I had to as no one would call me back, sound familiar.??? I mentioned this stuff to the assistant manager of the service department and he told me this is very rare and lies spread on the Internet. About 2 weeks later a recall on Nikons web site for the D2H and this exact problem. Internet hysteria, i think now. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2010 - 020 - GDG
http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/fog-at-dawn Thanks for all your comments! And for taking the time to look. :-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Salon des Refusés for the PDML book
Rick Womer wrote: --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Why not a PUG theme? That is an excellent idea, but the way the PUG has been going, the 2011 book might be out by the time we see the 2010 leftovers. Why? Just stick the SdR theme onto March 2010, shift all other themes one month and you're done and timely. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: they got back to me after all
2010/1/27 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: I've never drunk a photographer. me neither but I once ate drunken frog in Kuala Lumpur I once drunk a lumpy koala with eight frogs oh did you? well guess what I once humped one funky mama in the late fog Better than a lumpy monkey and a late dog and even better than a grumpy hog with a late clock and totally better than the shriveled log of a wanna-be gamecock and better yet than a shrimp size cock wallaby playing hard rock but not as nice as a toy-boy roadie singin'like a bard. never forget boyish toads squish like lard under your car or that girly queues swing like hemp in springtime temps yes but girlygirl's queueballs switch numbers after a drag of l'hempe de printemps or do girlygirl eyeballs spin like vamps queuing for l'hempe de printemps? Oui! Oui! Like vamps. And they're cheered as champs for their wow-man pro temps. Oh yeah, them... they live in camps near swamps of beer. Prin temporae prin mores! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Clark Little -- Inside the Waves of Hawai'i
Some great images of Hawai'ian surf: http://www.clarklittlephotography.com/gallery/index/category/gallery|MainGallery/start/0/MainGallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange but True
I get the same result - just a black box. Firefox, Win7/64 -p On 1/26/2010 10:16 PM, paul stenquist wrote: On Jan 26, 2010, at 10:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: paul stenquist I created a little website for my virtual tours using Apple's iWeb about two years ago. It worked well with every browser, including Safari. I have two Macs: the laptop runs system 10.6, the desktop runs 10.5. The other day I noticed that my iWeb-rendered website doesn't work with Safari on the computer running 10.6. Ironically, it works fine with Firefox. Still works okay on the Mac with 10.5 on both Firefox and Safari. I'm surprised that the iWeb rendered site would work with someone else's browser under 10.6 but not with Apple's own software. I guess a call to Apple tech is in order. In case anyone is curious, the site is at http://www.picturethisdetroit.net. Nothing new. Seen here before. Is it only supposed to be foyer, living room kitchen? You can also go to the master bedroom by clicking on the stairs. Safari on a mac with system 10.6 yields only a black box when clicking a link. Some kind of bug there. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2647 - Release Date: 01/26/10 13:36:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange but True
On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: I get the same result - just a black box. Firefox, Win7/64 Thanks, good to know. So the problem is not just confined to Mac 10.6. Paul -p On 1/26/2010 10:16 PM, paul stenquist wrote: On Jan 26, 2010, at 10:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: paul stenquist I created a little website for my virtual tours using Apple's iWeb about two years ago. It worked well with every browser, including Safari. I have two Macs: the laptop runs system 10.6, the desktop runs 10.5. The other day I noticed that my iWeb-rendered website doesn't work with Safari on the computer running 10.6. Ironically, it works fine with Firefox. Still works okay on the Mac with 10.5 on both Firefox and Safari. I'm surprised that the iWeb rendered site would work with someone else's browser under 10.6 but not with Apple's own software. I guess a call to Apple tech is in order. In case anyone is curious, the site is at http://www.picturethisdetroit.net. Nothing new. Seen here before. Is it only supposed to be foyer, living room kitchen? You can also go to the master bedroom by clicking on the stairs. Safari on a mac with system 10.6 yields only a black box when clicking a link. Some kind of bug there. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2647 - Release Date: 01/26/10 13:36:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Abstracts
I was curious regarding the feedback on the eclectic mix. I think Fallout and Sand Waves are my faves. I liked Perplexity and especially surface because they could almost pass for closeup images from space of planets or moons. Thanks for the comments. Tom On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:58 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Feathers and sand waves are interesting. Dave On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=492318 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange but True
I can open the site, latest firefox browser using the iBook. Not sure what version OX is have, its 10.4 something. How can i tell. Dave On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:24 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I created a little website for my virtual tours using Apple's iWeb about two years ago. It worked well with every browser, including Safari. I have two Macs: the laptop runs system 10.6, the desktop runs 10.5. The other day I noticed that my iWeb-rendered website doesn't work with Safari on the computer running 10.6. Ironically, it works fine with Firefox. Still works okay on the Mac with 10.5 on both Firefox and Safari. I'm surprised that the iWeb rendered site would work with someone else's browser under 10.6 but not with Apple's own software. I guess a call to Apple tech is in order. In case anyone is curious, the site is at http://www.picturethisdetroit.net. Nothing new. Seen here before. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Clark Little -- Inside the Waves of Hawai'i
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Some great images of Hawai'ian surf: http://www.clarklittlephotography.com/gallery/index/category/gallery|MainGallery/start/0/MainGallery.html amazing photography. -- Christian http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - What is Art?
From: Bob W From: frank theriault I'm not sure, but I don't think this is it: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-is-art.html Okay, I was being facetious - but if this is art, it's not good art. If that makes me a snob, I'm willing to live with that... Looks like the bastard child of Hentai and that old big sad eye waif school of painting. Good photo though. Wonder why they've got the broom stuck in the front door? The broom is a rather heavy-handed and obvious reference to Fox-Talbot, which also serves metaphorically and anaphrastically as a door jamb, barring access to art to those outside, while the plate glazing symbolises the invisible barrier between the artist and her intended audience. Yet the broom also unites, for is it not the device over which newly-weds jump into their reinvented world? And does the broom not then bring together the sublime and the vernacular, thereby regendering the whole? Uhh ... Ok. Very calmly now, place the camera on the floor and step away from it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange but True
David J Brooks wrote: I can open the site, latest firefox browser using the iBook. Not sure what version OX is have, its 10.4 something. How can i tell. Dave, click on the Apple menu (leftmost) and choose About this Mac. You'll get a dialog with basic system information including OS version. In case anyone is curious, the site is at http://www.picturethisdetroit.net. Works fine in Firefox and Safari on my netbook running OSX 10.6.2 Seems OK on my Windows (XP) desktop, too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
John Sessoms wrote: Uhh ... Ok. Very calmly now, place the camera on the floor and step away from it. MARK Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
From: Tom C Art is a man with no arms and legs that hangs on the wall. Wonder if he's related to Bob or Mat? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
:) On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:56 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Tom C Art is a man with no arms and legs that hangs on the wall. Wonder if he's related to Bob or Mat? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange but True
On Jan 27, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: David J Brooks wrote: I can open the site, latest firefox browser using the iBook. Not sure what version OX is have, its 10.4 something. How can i tell. Dave, click on the Apple menu (leftmost) and choose About this Mac. You'll get a dialog with basic system information including OS version. In case anyone is curious, the site is at http://www.picturethisdetroit.net . Works fine in Firefox and Safari on my netbook running OSX 10.6.2 Seems OK on my Windows (XP) desktop, too. Thanks Mark. That's odd. I have to make sure my Macbook has the latest version of Safari. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange but True
On Jan 27, 2010, at 1:16 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I can open the site, latest firefox browser using the iBook. Not sure what version OX is have, its 10.4 something. How can i tell. In the menu under the apple in the left hand corner of your screen you'll find about this Mac. Open that, and you'll see the words Mac OSX.. Under that you'll find the version number. All browsers seem to be able to open the site. What some can't do is link to another room from the opening video. Don't know why. All browsers used to work on all OS. Apparently, only the latest OS -- Win 7 and OSX 10.6 have problems. Perhaps it's a 64-bit thing. Paul Dave On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 6:24 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I created a little website for my virtual tours using Apple's iWeb about two years ago. It worked well with every browser, including Safari. I have two Macs: the laptop runs system 10.6, the desktop runs 10.5. The other day I noticed that my iWeb-rendered website doesn't work with Safari on the computer running 10.6. Ironically, it works fine with Firefox. Still works okay on the Mac with 10.5 on both Firefox and Safari. I'm surprised that the iWeb rendered site would work with someone else's browser under 10.6 but not with Apple's own software. I guess a call to Apple tech is in order. In case anyone is curious, the site is at http://www.picturethisdetroit.net . Nothing new. Seen here before. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
Are you saying the display isn't art, or the photograph? The broom makes it art, or at the very least social commentary. (smiley or not your decide). On 1/26/2010 9:55 PM, frank theriault wrote: I'm not sure, but I don't think this is it: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-is-art.html Okay, I was being facetious - but if this is art, it's not good art. If that makes me a snob, I'm willing to live with that... ;-) cheers, frank -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
On 1/27/2010 1:56 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Tom C Art is a man with no arms and legs that hangs on the wall. Wonder if he's related to Bob or Mat? Knodk Knock Knock Door Opens. Mrs. Smith: Yes Childern. First Scamp: Can Johnny come out and play? Mrs. Smith: What are you playing. First Scamp: Base Ball Mrs. Smith: You know Johny's go no arms or legs! Second Scamp: That's all right he can be second base. Rimshot -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Please Ignore Me (too)
On 1/27/2010 8:06 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/1/26 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com: I think that the law of gravity is unfair and should be repealed. Perhaps Gerlich and Tscheuschner could prove it hasn't got its thermodynamics right and thus is just a plot to harm the economy =P Hey believe what you want I for one don't want my neighbors to freeze in the dark for no particular gain. What the authors of that particular paper seem to want is good science. If they made mistakes they can be called on it, there's nothing hidden. Unlike Climate science which seems to be made up entirely of double secret data... -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cranking up the color
Put a frame around it, sign it A Wharole and call it art. On 1/27/2010 4:36 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: Cranking up the color, heres a couple I noodled around with in PS. http://www.jchriso.com/temp/treestwo.jpg http://www.jchriso.com/temp/padstwo.jpg -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Salon des Refusés for the PDML book
Called, Shots not good enough for publication, (or so you thought). On 1/27/2010 7:43 AM, Dario Bonazza wrote: Why not a PUG theme? Dario - Original Message - From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:37 AM Subject: Salon des Refusés for the PDML book Just thinking, and I don't want to cause any controversy. After the PDML book comes out, since we will have a surplus of shots, would anyone be interested in seeing an internet gallery salon of the submitted photos that didn't make it into the book? I know I would. I'm sure that will still be a quality gallery. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
More Stupid Questions
But at least they're actually Pentax questions this time ... I'm thinking about the K-x more and more. I currently have the K-10D. What I'm wondering is this ... Can you swap SD cards between the K-10D and the K-x WITHOUT REFORMATTING them? I don't really care if the K-10D can display the PEF files from the K-x or vice versa, I just want to know if I could shoot X-number of frames on the K-10D and then move the card to the K-x to shoot Y-number of frames more without messing up the frames already on there? No big deal if it won't, I just want to know before I go experimenting. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW - and new web site
Browsed through the galleries. The anything / somethings are great. The eye (elephant?) is my favorite! Toine 2010/1/24 DagT li...@thrane.name: A few years ago a did have a PAW (picture-a-week) but gave it up. Now, I´ve made a new web site and some more time. The kids are getting big and I got tired of the old web forum I used, www.foto.no So, here´s the first PAW http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1002-full.html and the web site is here: http://www.thrane.name/ DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Please Ignore Me (too)
2010/1/27 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: Hey believe what you want I for one don't want my neighbors to freeze in the dark for no particular gain. What the authors of that particular paper seem to want is good science. If they made mistakes they can be called on it, there's nothing hidden. Unlike Climate science which seems to be made up entirely of double secret data... easy now, this was irony meant to bring back humor, so we can all go back to believing what feels best to us cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More Stupid Questions
On Jan 27, 2010, at 3:20 PM, John Sessoms wrote: But at least they're actually Pentax questions this time ... I'm thinking about the K-x more and more. I currently have the K-10D. What I'm wondering is this ... Can you swap SD cards between the K-10D and the K-x WITHOUT REFORMATTING them? Probably. I suspect the second camera used will just create a new folder. I've used cards in all my cameras that had files on them that I had placed there to move them from one camera to another. None were ever overwritten. And cards formatted in my K20D work in my K7D just fine. Paul I don't really care if the K-10D can display the PEF files from the K-x or vice versa, I just want to know if I could shoot X-number of frames on the K-10D and then move the card to the K-x to shoot Y-number of frames more without messing up the frames already on there? No big deal if it won't, I just want to know before I go experimenting. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More Stupid Questions
On 28/01/2010, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: What I'm wondering is this ... Can you swap SD cards between the K-10D and the K-x WITHOUT REFORMATTING them? Well it works fine between the K-x, K20D and my Zoom H4n so I suspect the K10D will be fine too, I've even used cards with other assorted data in the past without a problem. About the only issue I've come across is that some cameras will baulk at displaying other than files directly generated by them, which is reasonable. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Please Ignore Me (too)
On 1/27/2010 3:48 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/1/27 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com: Hey believe what you want I for one don't want my neighbors to freeze in the dark for no particular gain. What the authors of that particular paper seem to want is good science. If they made mistakes they can be called on it, there's nothing hidden. Unlike Climate science which seems to be made up entirely of double secret data... easy now, this was irony meant to bring back humor, so we can all go back to believing what feels best to us cheers ecke Hey, don't accuse me of believing anything. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More Stupid Questions
On 1/27/2010 3:20 PM, John Sessoms wrote: But at least they're actually Pentax questions this time ... I'm thinking about the K-x more and more. I currently have the K-10D. What I'm wondering is this ... Can you swap SD cards between the K-10D and the K-x WITHOUT REFORMATTING them? I don't really care if the K-10D can display the PEF files from the K-x or vice versa, I just want to know if I could shoot X-number of frames on the K-10D and then move the card to the K-x to shoot Y-number of frames more without messing up the frames already on there? No big deal if it won't, I just want to know before I go experimenting. They shouldn't overwrite them if that's what you're afraid of. The behavior best as I can figure out is that the camera will number the next image in a folder with either the number after the number or it's last exposure, or if there's a higher numbered file on it;s card the number after that. Sort of mindless but it doesn't clobber an existing file. If you're counter is about to turn over , the camera will create a new folder, and put 0001 in there and record in that folder from there on... -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - What is Art?
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-is-art.html Okay, I was being facetious - but if this is art, it's not good art. If that makes me a snob, I'm willing to live with that... The broom is art. No, no - it's Bart is in the room Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange but True
On 27/1/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Dave, click on the Apple menu (leftmost) and choose About this Mac. You'll get a dialog with basic system information including OS version. Mark Roberts. Closet Mac user ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Please Ignore Me (too)
that's the spirit =) 2010/1/27 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: On 1/27/2010 3:48 PM, eckinator wrote: 2010/1/27 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com: Hey believe what you want I for one don't want my neighbors to freeze in the dark for no particular gain. What the authors of that particular paper seem to want is good science. If they made mistakes they can be called on it, there's nothing hidden. Unlike Climate science which seems to be made up entirely of double secret data... easy now, this was irony meant to bring back humor, so we can all go back to believing what feels best to us cheers ecke Hey, don't accuse me of believing anything. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange but True
On 27/1/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: on my netbook running OSX 10.6.2 Oh dear oh dear oh dear... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Clark Little -- Inside the Waves of Hawai'i
Some great images of Hawai'ian surf: http://www.clarklittlephotography.com/gallery/index/category/g allery|MainGallery/start/0/MainGallery.html Wow - thanks for posting them. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
And Bob is a man similarily without arms legs swimming. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - What is Art? Art is a man with no arms and legs that hangs on the wall. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:04 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:38 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: The broom is a rather heavy-handed and obvious reference to Fox-Talbot, which also serves metaphorically and anaphrastically as a door jamb, barring access to art to those outside, while the plate glazing symbolises the invisible barrier between the artist and her intended audience. Yet the broom also unites, for is it not the device over which newly-weds jump into their reinvented world? And does the broom not then bring together the sublime and the vernacular, thereby regendering the whole? ~Exactly~ my thoughts as I passed the storefront, saw the scene and put camera to eye! cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange but True
Cotty wrote: On 27/1/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Dave, click on the Apple menu (leftmost) and choose About this Mac. You'll get a dialog with basic system information including OS version. Mark Roberts. Closet Mac user ;-) I don't own a Mac: I have a Dell netbook running OSX so I can reference procedures for the Mac lab at school. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
My understanding was that air cooling was limiting engine output - heat dissapation. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com Subject: Re: SDM Failure woo hoo back on track porsche should have stuck with air cooling anyway cheers ecke 2010/1/27 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Joseph Tainter jtain...@mindspring.com wrote: According to Pentax USA these problems are just internet hysteria. Joe Reminds me when i had my first bout of trouble with my then new D2H. The AF board was/is prone to crapping out leaving the camera useless. A number of Nikon boards were talking about the problem. I drove the camera to Nikon here in Toronto. I had to as no one would call me back, sound familiar.??? I mentioned this stuff to the assistant manager of the service department and he told me this is very rare and lies spread on the Internet. About 2 weeks later a recall on Nikons web site for the D2H and this exact problem. Internet hysteria, i think now. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
2010/1/27 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: My understanding was that air cooling was limiting engine output - heat dissapation. well air cools just like water - the more you move it the better it cools - you need good airflow, good oil flow, i.e. massive oil pump, large oil cooler surface, good case material with proper cooling fins and so on - the 993 was good proof that it can be done =) I think they all made the move because water cooling is cheaper for the same thermal waste output cheers ecke if my understanding is poor, please fill me in! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW - and new web site
Thanks Toine. Yes it´s an elephant and it one my own favorites. DagT http://www.thrane.name Den 27. jan. 2010 kl. 21.47 skrev Toine: Browsed through the galleries. The anything / somethings are great. The eye (elephant?) is my favorite! Toine 2010/1/24 DagT li...@thrane.name: A few years ago a did have a PAW (picture-a-week) but gave it up. Now, I´ve made a new web site and some more time. The kids are getting big and I got tired of the old web forum I used, www.foto.no So, here´s the first PAW http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1002-full.html and the web site is here: http://www.thrane.name/ DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
Ken Waller wrote: My understanding was that air cooling was limiting engine output - heat dissapation. Yep. Once you reach a certain point in power output, you simply can't remove heat effectively enough with air. The more complex and more powerful engines become, the greater the advantages of liquid cooling. Eventually the engineers at Porsche were faced with a decision: Go to liquid cooling or get left behind by the competition. You can take the latter path and sell on the basis of styling/tradition/mystique for a while, but when the performance gap gets too big you run out of options. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
On 28/01/2010, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: My understanding was that air cooling was limiting engine output - heat dissapation. I'm pretty sure international noise regulations came into the equation too. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Salon des Refusés for the PDML book
Me too! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Derby Chang Sent: Wednesday, 27 January 2010 8:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Salon des Refusés for the PDML book Just thinking, and I don't want to cause any controversy. After the PDML book comes out, since we will have a surplus of shots, would anyone be interested in seeing an internet gallery salon of the submitted photos that didn't make it into the book? I know I would. I'm sure that will still be a quality gallery. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
fooling around with the color controls in PS
heres a couple with some mega coloring http://www.jchriso.com/temp/trees3.jpg http://www.jchriso.com/temp/pads3.jpg Kinda fun stuff -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
Noise and pollution standards, more likely. On 1/27/2010 5:05 PM, Ken Waller wrote: My understanding was that air cooling was limiting engine output - heat dissapation. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com Subject: Re: SDM Failure woo hoo back on track porsche should have stuck with air cooling anyway cheers ecke 2010/1/27 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Joseph Tainter jtain...@mindspring.com wrote: According to Pentax USA these problems are just internet hysteria. Joe Reminds me when i had my first bout of trouble with my then new D2H. The AF board was/is prone to crapping out leaving the camera useless. A number of Nikon boards were talking about the problem. I drove the camera to Nikon here in Toronto. I had to as no one would call me back, sound familiar.??? I mentioned this stuff to the assistant manager of the service department and he told me this is very rare and lies spread on the Internet. About 2 weeks later a recall on Nikons web site for the D2H and this exact problem. Internet hysteria, i think now. Dave -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
I tend to believe you are both right - although I hate to accept it as much as the water pumper 911. to this day they still come to me as great performance cars but I cant seem to accept them as Porsches - love change but not when it comes to perceived legends. But I am happy for anyone fortunate enough to have the means to own one. I doubt I will ever have te spare change needed to buy a 993 or older but I have no ambition to spoils the fun for those who do. cheers have one driving ecke 2010/1/27 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com: On 28/01/2010, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: My understanding was that air cooling was limiting engine output - heat dissapation. I'm pretty sure international noise regulations came into the equation too. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Clark Little -- Inside the Waves of Hawai'i
those are great - thanks! 2010/1/27 Bob W p...@web-options.com: Some great images of Hawai'ian surf: http://www.clarklittlephotography.com/gallery/index/category/g allery|MainGallery/start/0/MainGallery.html Wow - thanks for posting them. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange but True
On 2010-01-27 12:12 , P N Stenquist wrote: All browsers seem to be able to open the site. What some can't do is link to another room from the opening video. Don't know why. All browsers used to work on all OS. Apparently, only the latest OS -- Win 7 and OSX 10.6 have problems. Perhaps it's a 64-bit thing. from what i was able to dig up, Apple has close to mothballed QTVR -- they no longer support it in QuickTime Player (you have to install an old version to get it back in 10.6) and the browser plugin support seems to be degraded in 10.6 there are apparently Flash based tools that can suck up a QTVR and play it through flash -- maybe consider one of those (not that i'd normally recommend a flash solution) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:57 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Are you saying the display isn't art, or the photograph? The broom makes it art, or at the very least social commentary. (smiley or not your decide). I was commenting on the print of the female face in the window - the one with the big hair and teary eyes. I thought that was one of the ugliest bits of drawing I'd ever seen - a thought that's confirmed every time I look at my photograph. As for my photograph, well, to me it's a photograph, what anyone else wants to make of it is not for me to say... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange but True
On 28/01/2010, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: from what i was able to dig up, Apple has close to mothballed QTVR -- they no longer support it in QuickTime Player (you have to install an old version to get it back in 10.6) and the browser plugin support seems to be degraded in 10.6 Oh, great. Thanks for the info. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Strange but True
On 27/1/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I don't own a Mac: I have a Dell netbook running OSX so I can reference procedures for the Mac lab at school. ;-) You little netbooker you. I'd be interested (off list of course) to hear what your thoughts are on the OS...taking into account that you are a computing god to my computing nematode -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
On 27/1/10, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: And Bob is a man similarily without arms legs swimming. A bloke with a shovel: Doug. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:17:10 -0500 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I was commenting on the print of the female face in the window - the one with the big hair and teary eyes. I thought that was one of the ugliest bits of drawing I'd ever seen - a thought that's confirmed every time I look at my photograph. As for my photograph, well, to me it's a photograph, what anyone else wants to make of it is not for me to say... I like how the girl is set in juxtaposition to a Warhol Soup Can print. I will refrain from assessing what is art but settle for the name of your image bad_art.jpg -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
From: eckinator 2010/1/27 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: My understanding was that air cooling was limiting engine output - heat dissapation. well air cools just like water - the more you move it the better it cools - you need good airflow, good oil flow, i.e. massive oil pump, large oil cooler surface, good case material with proper cooling fins and so on - the 993 was good proof that it can be done =) I think they all made the move because water cooling is cheaper for the same thermal waste output I may be wrong ... won't be the first time ... even in this thread ... but I understood the reason for the change to water cooling was to make it easier for them to implement exhaust emissions controls, or less costly to do. Didn't the EU enact exhaust emissions standards even stricter than the US when they finally got around to it? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: they got back to me after all
- Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:03 AM Subject: Re: they got back to me after all 2010/1/27 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net: I've never drunk a photographer. me neither but I once ate drunken frog in Kuala Lumpur I once drunk a lumpy koala with eight frogs oh did you? well guess what I once humped one funky mama in the late fog Better than a lumpy monkey and a late dog and even better than a grumpy hog with a late clock and totally better than the shriveled log of a wanna-be gamecock and better yet than a shrimp size cock wallaby playing hard rock but not as nice as a toy-boy roadie singin'like a bard. never forget boyish toads squish like lard under your car or that girly queues swing like hemp in springtime temps yes but girlygirl's queueballs switch numbers after a drag of l'hempe de printemps or do girlygirl eyeballs spin like vamps queuing for l'hempe de printemps? Oui! Oui! Like vamps. And they're cheered as champs for their wow-man pro temps. Oh yeah, them... they live in camps near swamps of beer. Prin temporae prin mores! yes, but their true home is in the valley of tuliped teacups and perfumed fairy hiccups! Carpe Diem! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More Stupid Questions
Works with me. The K10D is set to shoot PEF while the K-x is on DNG--that's about the only thing different in how they're set up. On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 4:20 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: But at least they're actually Pentax questions this time ... I'm thinking about the K-x more and more. I currently have the K-10D. What I'm wondering is this ... Can you swap SD cards between the K-10D and the K-x WITHOUT REFORMATTING them? I don't really care if the K-10D can display the PEF files from the K-x or vice versa, I just want to know if I could shoot X-number of frames on the K-10D and then move the card to the K-x to shoot Y-number of frames more without messing up the frames already on there? No big deal if it won't, I just want to know before I go experimenting. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SDM Failure
John Sessoms wrote: From: eckinator 2010/1/27 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: My understanding was that air cooling was limiting engine output - heat dissapation. well air cools just like water - the more you move it the better it cools - you need good airflow, good oil flow, i.e. massive oil pump, large oil cooler surface, good case material with proper cooling fins and so on - the 993 was good proof that it can be done =) I think they all made the move because water cooling is cheaper for the same thermal waste output I may be wrong ... won't be the first time ... even in this thread ... but I understood the reason for the change to water cooling was to make it easier for them to implement exhaust emissions controls, or less costly to do. Didn't the EU enact exhaust emissions standards even stricter than the US when they finally got around to it? Emissions laws were certainly part of it, but probably could have been met simply with computerized fuel injection and ignition if it were not for the ever-increasing expectations for power per cubic centimeter of engine displacement: This inevitably leads to more heat to dissipate for any given engine size. Horsepower was the overwhelming incentive, with noise and emissions regulations playing a secondary role. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Queen at Tecumseth, Toronto
I really didn't know what to call this one, so I decided to simply go with intersection: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/queen-at-tecumseth-toronto.html Yet another slice of life in the neighbourhood. Hope you enjoy. Leica CL/40mm Summicron C/TriX, full frame. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - What is Art?
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Bran Everseeking I like how the girl is set in juxtaposition to a Warhol Soup Can print. I will refrain from assessing what is art but settle for the name of your image bad_art.jpg Thanks, Bran, and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Queen at Tecumseth, Toronto
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:15:47 -0500 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I really didn't know what to call this one, so I decided to simply go with intersection: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/01/queen-at-tecumseth-toronto.html Yet another slice of life in the neighbourhood. Hope you enjoy. Leica CL/40mm Summicron C/TriX, full frame. Hrmm would have titled it One Way, No Exit but that's me. Pay phones? THREE pay phones oi I would have liked them gone but that is my only quibble. like the two walking men and the transformer. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.