Re: softboxes and eggcrates
On Jun 20, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Good point, they've got more details there. It's weird that they have separate speedrings for alienbees and for white lightnings, and other companies don't. Maybe they just wanted to reduce confusion by listing both even though they are aliases for the same thing. Except that the fotodiox White Lightning ones cost more than their Alienbee speedrings. Well that just sounds like a scam. :-) It sounds like a scam, but it was a mistake, when I knew what to look for and went back and compared, the ez-pro 32x48 alienbee and white lightning softboxes were the same price $70). I had asked them online what the difference was between a couple units , and they just said one was for my light. Their online service through Amazon is damn near useless. I explained what I was looking for, and they'd answer part of my question, and I'd try to ask something else, and they'd ask another minor portion. I'll say I want a big softbox with an eggcrate that works with my white lightning, and mention a couple things that I saw but they won't just say You want to buy this unit, it will cost you that much. It's like they don't speak (much English) and just answer what ever portion is easiest for them to translate. Either that, or they are trying to drive business away. Did the speedring spec change when the newer models came out? Maybe the ABxxx series are actually different in some small way? What about the newest Einstein ones? -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: no Jobs...
part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. Ladies gentlemen - give it up for... ...Mr. Adolf Hitler!! Yaa-aa-aay! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18527509 I wonder what the reception's like in a bunker. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. Ladies gentlemen - give it up for... ...Mr. Adolf Hitler!! Yaa-aa-aay! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18527509 I wonder what the reception's like in a bunker. B Oh my. That's a pretty serious downside to butterfly lighting. Don't they do run-throughs before the event to check the sound and light for glitches? -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- New from old.
I like the tones and framing. But I'd prefer more DoF to make this really work. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:22 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing special, really. I kind of liked the way this old tree trunk had become a planter of sorts. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20newfromold.html Equipment: Pentax K20D w/vmc Vivitar S1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0 (Komine) As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Heading Your Way
Quoting David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Nice, good detail and the wake make it Thanks, Dave - and thanks to everyone for the comments. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Dave On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all This duck seemed to have a very definite idea of where it wanted to go: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP4080a-peso.html K200D; DA 55-300mm; cropped. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
Works for me, Walt. Foreground has great detail and , while busy, I don't find the background to be a problem. Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com/ - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:24 PM Subject: PESO: Mimosa Buzz First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
Windows? Tested in Advance? Two incompatible terms. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. Ladies gentlemen - give it up for... ...Mr. Adolf Hitler!! Yaa-aa-aay! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18527509 I wonder what the reception's like in a bunker. B Oh my. That's a pretty serious downside to butterfly lighting. Don't they do run-throughs before the event to check the sound and light for glitches? -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
Very nice; I like it a lot. Great composition, nice bokeh. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: pesos keeping cool today
I like the elephant image. It looks like it's trying to decide whether to charge the camera or beg for a peanut. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:52 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:45 PM, David J Brooks wrote: I usually hit the elephants, tigers, hippos and reptiles areas. Only managed to get a few of this guy/gal trying to keep cool: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15956174 That's a very nice photo but I wish that blurred bit of fence wire wasn't there. I've been wondering what would happen if you tried shining a laser pointer towards a tiger... would they chase it? They have a bit of a mist falling from a fake umbrella tree, and this one was utilizing it today: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15956175 I also have a soft spot for elephants. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
Silly me. ;-) On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Windows? Tested in Advance? Two incompatible terms. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. Ladies gentlemen - give it up for... ...Mr. Adolf Hitler!! Yaa-aa-aay! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18527509 I wonder what the reception's like in a bunker. B Oh my. That's a pretty serious downside to butterfly lighting. Don't they do run-throughs before the event to check the sound and light for glitches? -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ I don't know how much more you could push the ISO with the K20D. Sigh. Walt, take it from me: 400 ISO is _not_ pushing it on a K20D. :-) But I like the shot as is is anyway. I would reduce the saturation of the background if you can selectively. The Lightroom adjustment brush is ideal for that. You could do it in PS Elements too, with a bit more difficulty. Contrast is good. Your eyes go to the areas of greater brightness and more saturated colour. You'll guide viewers to the bee and the flowers by subtly unboosting the background. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
On 21/06/2012 12:58 AM, Bob W wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. Funny thing is if it weren't for Jobs pretending he was the Second Coming every time he had something to say to his public I might actually have considered a Mac product. Ladies gentlemen - give it up for... ...Mr. Adolf Hitler!! Yaa-aa-aay! That is a most unfortunate similarity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18527509 I wonder what the reception's like in a bunker. So far I'm hearing very good things about Win8 (except from people who were sucked in by Jesus Jobs, and who are still thinking Windows is Win95 on crappy hardware). -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
I use Win7 at work and have a Mac at home and I have no strong preference. I'd like to see MS challenge Apple simple because I don't' like to see any company become too dominant. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:02 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/06/2012 12:58 AM, Bob W wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. Funny thing is if it weren't for Jobs pretending he was the Second Coming every time he had something to say to his public I might actually have considered a Mac product. Ladies gentlemen - give it up for... ...Mr. Adolf Hitler!! Yaa-aa-aay! That is a most unfortunate similarity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18527509 I wonder what the reception's like in a bunker. So far I'm hearing very good things about Win8 (except from people who were sucked in by Jesus Jobs, and who are still thinking Windows is Win95 on crappy hardware). -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO's new
The extreme cyclist and the patriotic wedding are my favs. Nicely done. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting jn289 jn...@verizon.net: Had a computer crash, was not on for a while. Any way in this folder the top six are new. http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1030820 Four photos of Tiger Lily and two other black and white photos..Thoughts ? Like, Dislike Thanks, Joe All really good. I really like the colour and framing on 15951872. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: softboxes and eggcrates
From: Bruce Walker Larry, be sure and check out http://fotodioxpro.com/ for info too. Good point, they've got more details there. ?It's weird that they have separate speedrings for alienbees and for white lightnings, and other companies don't. Maybe they just wanted to reduce confusion by listing both even though they are aliases for the same thing. Are you sure about that? AlienBees and White LIGHTNING are manufactured by the same company, but I don't think they use the same speed-ring. Especially if you have older models. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
On 6/21/2012 12:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: On 6/20/2012 11:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ That is not the worst picture I've seen this week. Very nice. Thanks, Larry! Can I quote you on that? Sure thing. Any time you need a recommendation. How about: Walt isn't the worst photographer I've seen. Many of his pictures look better than if they'd been taken with an instamatic by a drunk on a three day binge. Perfect! I've made great strides. K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. I don't know how much more you could push the ISO with the K20D. It's probably worth doing a test series with both the K20 and the K-x bracketing ISO, f-stop and shutter speed to see where the sweet spot is. That's a good idea. I was kind of hesitant to go much higher than 400, but that wouldn't be an issue with the K-x. I'll have to give it a shot and see how it performs. The thing is, you need to know what your equipment can do, and it's limits under one kind of lighting won't be the same as under different lighting. In other words, just because it's noisy at ISO 1600 at 1/10Sec in a dimly lit room doesn't necessarily mean that it will be as noisy in sunlight at ISO 1600 at 1/100 Sec. For one thing, inside, the light has a lot more energy in the red channel, so you're pushing the blue channel a lot harder. With my camera, most of the noise showed up in the blue channel anyways. If you're photographing something with a lot of the signal in the blue channel, the noise won't be nearly as noticeable. This area always seems to have plenty in the blue channel -- lots of sky in the background in most of the photos I take at it. So maybe it won't be much of an issue. My biggest noise concern is probably the camera's internal temperature, given that it's usually in the 90's when this tree finally blossoms. So far, though, that hasn't seemed to be a problem. At the very least, in a situation like this, if you have the chances, experiment. Try pushing the ISO harder, worst case you end up with some photos you have to delete lest they use up $.02 worth of hard drive.Have you picked up Lightroom 4 (or even 3) yet? It's ability to defeat noise in raw files is pretty impressive. Things that just didn't work for me with my K20 three years ago might be well within the ability of Lightroom 4 to correct. I still don't have any version of Lightroom, unfortunately. I do just about everything with Picasa and a few Photoshop filters with IrfanView. Occasionally, I'll pull up Gimp -- but I need to reinstall it as something has gone haywire between it and UFRAW. I've just been putting it off. The other option would be to try using a speedlight. You won't be able to get a shutterspeed faster than 1//160 on the camera, but the flash duration will be a lot shorter. If you were to try ISO 100, f/16 or f/22, at 1/125 or 1/160, then use the strobe to fill in, you should have enough light from the strobe at short distances to use the higher f/stop, you'll get an interesting mix of blur and frozen on the bee, and the background will be de-emphasized by being a couple stops under exposed. I do have a hot shoe flash that I can use manually and will see what I can do with it. I appreciate the ideas and tips. Hopefully most of the blossoms will still be on the tree the next time I get a chance to do it. Got a busy, early-starting workweek coming up -- beginning tomorrow. Congratulations. I hope it leaves you some time to spend with your new friend. We shall see. There's a good chance I'll see her before the weekend's over. Now, if I can only get her to just chill when the camera comes out! Thanks again for the pointers! -- Walt Thanks again! -- Walt Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
On 6/21/2012 6:26 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Works for me, Walt. Foreground has great detail and , while busy, I don't find the background to be a problem. Thanks, Jack! It's tough not to get a fairly busy background when that mimosa tree is in full blossom. It's a pretty garish bit of flora. -- Walt Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com/ - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:24 PM Subject: PESO: Mimosa Buzz First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
On 6/21/2012 7:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Very nice; I like it a lot. Great composition, nice bokeh. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola Thank you, Dan! I've been pleasantly surprised with the bokeh from that lens -- and, well, just about everything about it, the more I use it. I just wish it were a little wider at the short end -- maybe 50mm, or so. But, at under $200 brand new, I'm not going to complain too much. -- Walt On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
On 6/21/2012 7:49 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ I don't know how much more you could push the ISO with the K20D. Sigh. Walt, take it from me: 400 ISO is _not_ pushing it on a K20D. :-) I figured I could go up to about 800, or so, before the grain started to muddy the detail and that 400 was a pretty conservative stopping point. I'll try it at 800 and see if that leaves me enough room to get good shutter speed and DOF. But I like the shot as is is anyway. I would reduce the saturation of the background if you can selectively. The Lightroom adjustment brush is ideal for that. You could do it in PS Elements too, with a bit more difficulty. I can probably selectively desaturate the background in Gimp, once I get it reinstalled. Unfortunately, I don't have Lightroom or Elements. Maybe I'll be able to pick up a copy of one of them someday soon. I'm usuing an ancient desktop, so I'm not sure how recent I can get on any decent software without running into performance issues. Contrast is good. Your eyes go to the areas of greater brightness and more saturated colour. You'll guide viewers to the bee and the flowers by subtly unboosting the background. I'll see what I can do with my Photoshop plugins in IrfanView. I've got a few useful ones I turn to for that kind of thing. Thanks for the input, Bruce! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: softboxes and eggcrates
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker Larry, be sure and check out http://fotodioxpro.com/ for info too. Good point, they've got more details there. ?It's weird that they have separate speedrings for alienbees and for white lightnings, and other companies don't. Maybe they just wanted to reduce confusion by listing both even though they are aliases for the same thing. Are you sure about that? AlienBees and White LIGHTNING are manufactured by the same company, but I don't think they use the same speed-ring. Especially if you have older models. That's the thing John, I'm not sure about it at all--just postulating. Paul C Huff's site describes backwards compatibility in their models, but that doesn't necessarily mean forward compatibility too. I guess we'll only know for sure if somebody who owns a bunch of Huff flashes and 3rd-party modifiers speaks up. :-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Another Mimosa/Bumblebee shot
Hi all, Just wanted to post this shot that escaped my eye the first time through the batch I took yesterday. It's a pretty severe crop, but I was happy with the detail I managed to get out of that cheapo 70-300. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412599286/ K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/320, f/8 The lens is really starting to grow on me, especially in the middle of its aperture and zoom ranges. Given its sub-$200 price tag, I can't complain. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - PAD - Burlington Building Reflection - Print-a-Day-20
This is number 20 in the series Print-a-Day for 30 Days. http://georges.posterous.com/burlington-building-reflection-print-a-day-20 An exterior shot of the Burlington Building. You saw an interior detail in Print-a-Day-3. This is a beautiful old building with a lot of interesting detail inside and out. Earlier photos in this series taught me that vivid blue skies can get even more vivid in the print. As a result, I decreased the sky saturation and changed the hue slightly. This version is unmodified. I've always been a bit about the lighted pylon in the lower left. Sometimes I like it, it feels like it ties into the others that are father back. Other times I think it's a distraction. What do you all think. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
That is not the worst picture I've seen this week. Sounds like a MARK! to me. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ That is not the worst picture I've seen this week. Very nice. K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. I don't know how much more you could push the ISO with the K20D. It's probably worth doing a test series with both the K20 and the K-x bracketing ISO, f-stop and shutter speed to see where the sweet spot is. The other option would be to try using a speedlight. You won't be able to get a shutterspeed faster than 1//160 on the camera, but the flash duration will be a lot shorter. If you were to try ISO 100, f/16 or f/22, at 1/125 or 1/160, then use the strobe to fill in, you should have enough light from the strobe at short distances to use the higher f/stop, you'll get an interesting mix of blur and frozen on the bee, and the background will be de-emphasized by being a couple stops under exposed. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
Love the vivid colors in this one. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:15 AM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: That is not the worst picture I've seen this week. Sounds like a MARK! to me. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ That is not the worst picture I've seen this week. Very nice. K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. I don't know how much more you could push the ISO with the K20D. It's probably worth doing a test series with both the K20 and the K-x bracketing ISO, f-stop and shutter speed to see where the sweet spot is. The other option would be to try using a speedlight. You won't be able to get a shutterspeed faster than 1//160 on the camera, but the flash duration will be a lot shorter. If you were to try ISO 100, f/16 or f/22, at 1/125 or 1/160, then use the strobe to fill in, you should have enough light from the strobe at short distances to use the higher f/stop, you'll get an interesting mix of blur and frozen on the bee, and the background will be de-emphasized by being a couple stops under exposed. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: pesos keeping cool today
Thu Jun 21 01:52:18 EDT 2012 David Mann wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:45 PM, David J Brooks wrote: They have a bit of a mist falling from a fake umbrella tree, and this one was utilizing it today: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15956175 I also have a soft spot for elephants. ... _from_ elephants? ;-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Bob W pdml at web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/apple?before=1340251077 (I am not quite getting the reference to Picard, - but I guess I don't know Star Trek series that well) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - PAD - Burlington Building Reflection - Print-a-Day-20
Pylon steps on the reflection of the building. Without the title, I don't know what this picture is about. Can you move to get the pylon out of the shot? Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:13 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: This is number 20 in the series Print-a-Day for 30 Days. http://georges.posterous.com/burlington-building-reflection-print-a-day-20 An exterior shot of the Burlington Building. You saw an interior detail in Print-a-Day-3. This is a beautiful old building with a lot of interesting detail inside and out. Earlier photos in this series taught me that vivid blue skies can get even more vivid in the print. As a result, I decreased the sky saturation and changed the hue slightly. This version is unmodified. I've always been a bit about the lighted pylon in the lower left. Sometimes I like it, it feels like it ties into the others that are father back. Other times I think it's a distraction. What do you all think. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - PAD - Burlington Building Reflection - Print-a-Day-20
I'll be going back to shoot the building several more times.. I don't remember being able to move much, but it can certainly be reframed. I have a feeling I could reach forward and use that pylon for a camera support. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Pylon steps on the reflection of the building. Without the title, I don't know what this picture is about. Can you move to get the pylon out of the shot? Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:13 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: This is number 20 in the series Print-a-Day for 30 Days. http://georges.posterous.com/burlington-building-reflection-print-a-day-20 An exterior shot of the Burlington Building. You saw an interior detail in Print-a-Day-3. This is a beautiful old building with a lot of interesting detail inside and out. Earlier photos in this series taught me that vivid blue skies can get even more vivid in the print. As a result, I decreased the sky saturation and changed the hue slightly. This version is unmodified. I've always been a bit about the lighted pylon in the lower left. Sometimes I like it, it feels like it ties into the others that are father back. Other times I think it's a distraction. What do you all think. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Don't mean nothin'
On Jun 20, 2012, at 5:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Anyway, today they had a Pentax K-r with an 18-55 ($399) along with a 50-200 ($299). First time I've seen a Pentax camera in a pawn shop in many a year. That's not a bad price. What city is this in? Raleigh, NC Local independent camera store had the same model 50-200 for $125 recently, and new through Amazon begins at $209. Doesn't really interest me because I already have the Tokina 80-200f/2.8 that I bought for my PZ-1p. I just thought it was interesting that the pawnshop took it in. They usually won't look at anything but Canon or Nikon anymore. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
on 2012-06-21 7:02 William Robb wrote Funny thing is if it weren't for Jobs pretending he was the Second Coming every time he had something to say to his public I might actually have considered a Mac product. that's what turned me off to religion … So far I'm hearing very good things about Win8 (except from people who were sucked in by Jesus Jobs, and who are still thinking Windows is Win95 on crappy hardware). i've used Windows since 2.x, sometimes intensively, and still prefer OS X, though i can see that changing as OS X is becomes less flexible; i say that as a foundation for my positive initial impression of Windows 8, though it is far too soon to really know how it will shake out -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. I would suggest that Apple's appeal can be summed up in the phrase obsessive attention to every detail combined with aesthetic taste. Product announcements were no exception to that combination. Cool is just the end result of that combination. You can have obsessive attention to every detail *without* aesthetic taste and possibly still get a capable product. Or you can have *no* obsessive attention to every detail and no aesthetic taste and get most Microsoft products. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:02 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: Funny thing is if it weren't for Jobs pretending he was the Second Coming every time he had something to say to his public I might actually have considered a Mac product. Your loss. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
Pretty - like the mimosa against the blue bokeh - wish the bee had turned around for you - I dont think the bee need be sharper ann On 6/21/2012 00:24, Walt Gilbert wrote: First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
On 6/21/2012 12:11 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. I would suggest that Apple's appeal can be summed up in the phrase obsessive attention to every detail combined with aesthetic taste. Product announcements were no exception to that combination. Cool is just the end result of that combination. You can have obsessive attention to every detail *without* aesthetic taste and possibly still get a capable product. Or you can have *no* obsessive attention to every detail and no aesthetic taste . . . My ears are burning. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
Thank you, Ann. As I look at it in the light of a new day, I find it less objectionable myself. -- Walt On 6/21/2012 12:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Pretty - like the mimosa against the blue bokeh - wish the bee had turned around for you - I dont think the bee need be sharper ann On 6/21/2012 00:24, Walt Gilbert wrote: First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Bob W pdml at web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/apple?before=1340251077 (I am not quite getting the reference to Picard, - but I guess I don't know Star Trek series that well) In Star Trek TNG, back in the late 80's something that looks basically like an iPad was the standard data display, computer interface device. Granted, they only existed as fiction, just like Uhura's bluetooth headset. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: In Star Trek TNG, back in the late 80's something that looks basically like an iPad was the standard data display, computer interface device. Granted, they only existed as fiction, just like Uhura's bluetooth headset. http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/10-star-trek-technologies.htm http://www.pcworld.com/article/164195/star_trek_tech_we_use_today_almost.html See also: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/technology/features/star_trek.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: softboxes and eggcrates
On Jun 21, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker Larry, be sure and check out http://fotodioxpro.com/ for info too. Good point, they've got more details there. ?It's weird that they have separate speedrings for alienbees and for white lightnings, and other companies don't. Maybe they just wanted to reduce confusion by listing both even though they are aliases for the same thing. Are you sure about that? AlienBees and White LIGHTNING are manufactured by the same company, but I don't think they use the same speed-ring. Especially if you have older models. That's the thing John, I'm not sure about it at all--just postulating. Paul C Huff's site describes backwards compatibility in their models, but that doesn't necessarily mean forward compatibility too. Looking at the accessories on the Buff (not Huff) website, they seem to be interchangeable. I guess we'll only know for sure if somebody who owns a bunch of Huff flashes and 3rd-party modifiers speaks up. :-) -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
From: Walt Gilbert First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. Thanks! Nicely done. Great separation of the bee the flower from the background. The flower is beautiful, but it is a mistake to plant a mimosa tree next to where you park your car. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
Thanks, George! That mimosa does put off some very vibrant colors. -- Walt On 6/21/2012 11:21 AM, George Sinos wrote: Love the vivid colors in this one. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:15 AM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: That is not the worst picture I've seen this week. Sounds like a MARK! to me. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ That is not the worst picture I've seen this week. Very nice. K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. I don't know how much more you could push the ISO with the K20D. It's probably worth doing a test series with both the K20 and the K-x bracketing ISO, f-stop and shutter speed to see where the sweet spot is. The other option would be to try using a speedlight. You won't be able to get a shutterspeed faster than 1//160 on the camera, but the flash duration will be a lot shorter. If you were to try ISO 100, f/16 or f/22, at 1/125 or 1/160, then use the strobe to fill in, you should have enough light from the strobe at short distances to use the higher f/stop, you'll get an interesting mix of blur and frozen on the bee, and the background will be de-emphasized by being a couple stops under exposed. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
On 6/21/2012 12:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Walt Gilbert First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. Thanks! Nicely done. Great separation of the bee the flower from the background. The flower is beautiful, but it is a mistake to plant a mimosa tree next to where you park your car. Thanks, John. Fortunately, it's near the end of the driveway, so that's not an issue. Between the fallen blossoms and the wealth of birds they attract, they do tend to create a mess. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - if you feel like donating your photos to Intel or playing expensive lottery
Just in case you missed it on dpreview or elsewhere: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/06/21/Intel-and-Vincent-Laforet-promote-time-lapse-and-stills-contest https://d1ncmqs035wa42.cloudfront.net/other/1340157276-1281.pdf Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Don't mean nothin'
From: David Mann On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Anyway, today they had a Pentax K-r with an 18-55 ($399) along with a 50-200 ($299). First time I've seen a Pentax camera in a pawn shop in many a year. I used to see them all the time in the days when I popped occasionally in to see what they had. Saw a black K2 in there once but on closer inspection I found that the mirror box contained fungus. I have a few good lenses that I bought through pawn shops but the interesting ones didn't appear often. Most of my gear came through my favourite camera shop's secondhand cabinet. I covered a 625,000 square mile service territory (commercial fire burglar alarms) during the 80s 90s. I had a lot of pawnshop customers. Always took a look to see what Pentax equipment they might have on hand before I left for my next call. I got a smc PENTAX-A 1:2.8 24mm at a pawn shop for $50. I used to see Pentax all the time back in film days. I haven't seen them so much since digital. The pawnshops around here won't even touch film cameras any more. I don't go in as many pawnshops anymore, but browsing them is still cheap entertainment. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: softboxes and eggcrates
From: Bruce Walker On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker Larry, be sure and check out http://fotodioxpro.com/ for info too. Good point, they've got more details there. ?It's weird that they have separate speedrings for alienbees and for white lightnings, and other companies don't. Maybe they just wanted to reduce confusion by listing both even though they are aliases for the same thing. Are you sure about that? AlienBees and White LIGHTNING are manufactured by the same company, but I don't think they use the same speed-ring. Especially if you have older models. That's the thing John, I'm not sure about it at all--just postulating. Paul C Huff's site describes backwards compatibility in their models, but that doesn't necessarily mean forward compatibility too. I guess we'll only know for sure if somebody who owns a bunch of Huff flashes and 3rd-party modifiers speaks up. :-) I've used both the White LIGHTNING AlienBees in the past at school. We were required to have at least passing familiarity with all of the different brands the school had in inventory. It's been several years since I last had a chance to compare them one on one, but I think they took different speed-rings. They both come with the same 7 reflector *now*, so they can't be that much different. Just searching the internet, I come across some sites that offer different speed-rings for AlienBees Balcar/White LIGHTNING, and other sites that offer a single speed-ring AlienBees/Balcar/White LIGHTNING together. I think there might have been an older version of the new White LIGHTNINGs that had a different speed-ring. As the king of Siam said, It is a puzzlement. The original White LIGHTNINGs WL5K and WL10K - the ones that look like paint cans - won't take any kind of speed ring. You have to get a plastic cruciform do-hickey that fits into the umbrella mount hole that you can plug a soft box into. And of course, my other set of mono-lights are Bowens 400b, which is another one it's almost impossible to find the correct speed-ring for. All I really know is it's not the same speed-ring the current Bowens Gemini lights use. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
Thu Jun 21 13:21:21 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/apple?before=1340251077 (And I meant to provide the direct link to the image http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5y878Y9fj1rsi9gfo1_1280.jpg ) (I am not quite getting the reference to Picard, - but I guess I don't know Star Trek series that well) In Star Trek TNG, back in the late 80's something that looks basically like an iPad was the standard data display, computer interface device. That part is clear. It was the caption for the 4th image that was not quite clear to me. While trying to google, I saw some similar phrasing, e.g. in this image: http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bitch-please-those-shoes-with-that-top.png So, I was suspecting that this expression might have some reference to some episode or phrase of Picard, but couldn't find that reference Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: no Jobs...
Two things I enjoy about that set of photos: 1. The world pisses itself like an excited dog. That's a Wheatfieldism if ever I heard one, and beautifully descriptive of the market's reaction to Mac stuff. 2. Both Jobs and Ballmer clearly model themselves on Picard's intelligent, high-domed forehead, as some of us like to describe bald, but Jobs obviously can't afford a two-tone turtleneck and has to make do with the all-black cheapo version. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Igor Roshchin Sent: 21 June 2012 21:10 To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: no Jobs... Thu Jun 21 13:21:21 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/apple?before=1340251077 (And I meant to provide the direct link to the image http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5y878Y9fj1rsi9gfo1_1280.jpg ) (I am not quite getting the reference to Picard, - but I guess I don't know Star Trek series that well) In Star Trek TNG, back in the late 80's something that looks basically like an iPad was the standard data display, computer interface device. That part is clear. It was the caption for the 4th image that was not quite clear to me. While trying to google, I saw some similar phrasing, e.g. in this image: http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bitch-please-those- shoes-with-that-top.png So, I was suspecting that this expression might have some reference to some episode or phrase of Picard, but couldn't find that reference Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Thu Jun 21 13:21:21 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/apple?before=1340251077 (And I meant to provide the direct link to the image http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5y878Y9fj1rsi9gfo1_1280.jpg ) (I am not quite getting the reference to Picard, - but I guess I don't know Star Trek series that well) In Star Trek TNG, back in the late 80's something that looks basically like an iPad was the standard data display, computer interface device. That part is clear. It was the caption for the 4th image that was not quite clear to me. While trying to google, I saw some similar phrasing, e.g. in this image: http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bitch-please-those-shoes-with-that-top.png So, I was suspecting that this expression might have some reference to some episode or phrase of Picard, but couldn't find that reference Nope, part of the humor is in the fact that Picard would never phrase it like that. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Don't mean nothin'
I love Pawn Stars of the History Channel. Those guys get some very interesting offers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:42 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: David Mann On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Anyway, today they had a Pentax K-r with an 18-55 ($399) along with a 50-200 ($299). First time I've seen a Pentax camera in a pawn shop in many a year. I used to see them all the time in the days when I popped occasionally in to see what they had. Saw a black K2 in there once but on closer inspection I found that the mirror box contained fungus. I have a few good lenses that I bought through pawn shops but the interesting ones didn't appear often. Most of my gear came through my favourite camera shop's secondhand cabinet. I covered a 625,000 square mile service territory (commercial fire burglar alarms) during the 80s 90s. I had a lot of pawnshop customers. Always took a look to see what Pentax equipment they might have on hand before I left for my next call. I got a smc PENTAX-A 1:2.8 24mm at a pawn shop for $50. I used to see Pentax all the time back in film days. I haven't seen them so much since digital. The pawnshops around here won't even touch film cameras any more. I don't go in as many pawnshops anymore, but browsing them is still cheap entertainment. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
The Apple Newton pedated Microsoft's crappy attempt at a tablet by several years. Both were simply ahead of their time. Timing is quite important in marketing success. What Jobs achieved was real and substantial, despite what his many critics like to believe. Among other great things, Apple saved my IRA in spite of the devastation it suffered because of WTT, Lucent and other former giants of industry. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Thu Jun 21 13:21:21 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/apple?before=1340251077 (And I meant to provide the direct link to the image http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5y878Y9fj1rsi9gfo1_1280.jpg ) (I am not quite getting the reference to Picard, - but I guess I don't know Star Trek series that well) In Star Trek TNG, back in the late 80's something that looks basically like an iPad was the standard data display, computer interface device. That part is clear. It was the caption for the 4th image that was not quite clear to me. While trying to google, I saw some similar phrasing, e.g. in this image: http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bitch-please-those-shoes-with-that-top.png So, I was suspecting that this expression might have some reference to some episode or phrase of Picard, but couldn't find that reference Nope, part of the humor is in the fact that Picard would never phrase it like that. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Lens Chess Set
Wow! http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon/lenses/supertelephoto/lensrentals-chess-set for less than $10k for 7 days, you can play chess with photo lenses. (No Pentax lenses are damaged in the game.) Or you can purchase it for just over $151k (is that including $10k, - as in RTO, or not?) That's less than $5k a piece! WhatABurg.. WhatABargain! Say Cheese! :-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
And on the subject of bitches http://xkcd.com/54/ also http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#Science On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Thu Jun 21 13:21:21 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/apple?before=1340251077 (And I meant to provide the direct link to the image http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5y878Y9fj1rsi9gfo1_1280.jpg ) (I am not quite getting the reference to Picard, - but I guess I don't know Star Trek series that well) In Star Trek TNG, back in the late 80's something that looks basically like an iPad was the standard data display, computer interface device. That part is clear. It was the caption for the 4th image that was not quite clear to me. While trying to google, I saw some similar phrasing, e.g. in this image: http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bitch-please-those-shoes-with-that-top.png So, I was suspecting that this expression might have some reference to some episode or phrase of Picard, but couldn't find that reference Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: no Jobs...
MS isnt dominant already? Something like 90% of computers run windows OS. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steven Desjardins Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: no Jobs... I use Win7 at work and have a Mac at home and I have no strong preference. I'd like to see MS challenge Apple simple because I don't' like to see any company become too dominant. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:02 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/06/2012 12:58 AM, Bob W wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. Funny thing is if it weren't for Jobs pretending he was the Second Coming every time he had something to say to his public I might actually have considered a Mac product. Ladies gentlemen - give it up for... ...Mr. Adolf Hitler!! Yaa-aa-aay! That is a most unfortunate similarity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18527509 I wonder what the reception's like in a bunker. So far I'm hearing very good things about Win8 (except from people who were sucked in by Jesus Jobs, and who are still thinking Windows is Win95 on crappy hardware). -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
The market for Mac and the market for Windows are sort of mutually exclusive, and that's fine with me. I would prefer that they not compete with one another, as MS likes to kill off competition. They destroyed the entire market for personal information managers by offering Outlook free of charge for a few years. Predatory. The best PIMs for Windows went belly up as they could not compete with *free*. I continued to use my beloved Ecco for several more years with no upgrades. Regards, Jeffery _ Jeffery Smith Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On Jun 21, 2012, at 7:00 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: MS isnt dominant already? Something like 90% of computers run windows OS. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steven Desjardins Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:33 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: no Jobs... I use Win7 at work and have a Mac at home and I have no strong preference. I'd like to see MS challenge Apple simple because I don't' like to see any company become too dominant. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:02 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/06/2012 12:58 AM, Bob W wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. Funny thing is if it weren't for Jobs pretending he was the Second Coming every time he had something to say to his public I might actually have considered a Mac product. Ladies gentlemen - give it up for... ...Mr. Adolf Hitler!! Yaa-aa-aay! That is a most unfortunate similarity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18527509 I wonder what the reception's like in a bunker. So far I'm hearing very good things about Win8 (except from people who were sucked in by Jesus Jobs, and who are still thinking Windows is Win95 on crappy hardware). -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Lens Chess Set
Now that's a silly thing... Y'all know that the ONLY way to play chess properly is with human chess pieces. ]'-) G On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Wow! http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon/lenses/supertelephoto/lensrentals-chess-set for less than $10k for 7 days, you can play chess with photo lenses. (No Pentax lenses are damaged in the game.) Or you can purchase it for just over $151k (is that including $10k, - as in RTO, or not?) That's less than $5k a piece! WhatABurg.. WhatABargain! Say Cheese! :-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
I like it! Not the sharpest photo, but the composition, colors and that delightful bee all do their part to make a wonderful photo! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Sent: June 21, 2012 6/21/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Mimosa Buzz First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - PAD - Burlington Building Reflection - Print-a-Day-20
Beautiful. cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com Sent: June 21, 2012 6/21/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - PAD - Burlington Building Reflection - Print-a-Day-20 This is number 20 in the series Print-a-Day for 30 Days. http://georges.posterous.com/burlington-building-reflection-print-a-day-20 An exterior shot of the Burlington Building. You saw an interior detail in Print-a-Day-3. This is a beautiful old building with a lot of interesting detail inside and out. Earlier photos in this series taught me that vivid blue skies can get even more vivid in the print. As a result, I decreased the sky saturation and changed the hue slightly. This version is unmodified. I've always been a bit about the lighted pylon in the lower left. Sometimes I like it, it feels like it ties into the others that are father back. Other times I think it's a distraction. What do you all think. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
On 22 June 2012 07:07, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: The Apple Newton pedated Microsoft's crappy attempt at a tablet by several years. Both were simply ahead of their time. Timing is quite important in marketing success. The Newton was a PDA rather than a computer. It was very limited compared to even the simple computers in its time. And it didn't work as described. A friend of mine who was running a small ad agency got some Newtons when they came out, and within a month they had been abandoned, sent back to the shop from whence they came. As useless as tits on a bull may have been said at the time. regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: no Jobs...
Microsoft's first tablet was just as worthless. There were no apps, and that is what produces the utility of the iPad and its knock-offs. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 June 2012 07:07, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: The Apple Newton pedated Microsoft's crappy attempt at a tablet by several years. Both were simply ahead of their time. Timing is quite important in marketing success. The Newton was a PDA rather than a computer. It was very limited compared to even the simple computers in its time. And it didn't work as described. A friend of mine who was running a small ad agency got some Newtons when they came out, and within a month they had been abandoned, sent back to the shop from whence they came. As useless as tits on a bull may have been said at the time. regards, Anthony -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
Thank you, Frank! I was happy to see a keeper in the bunch -- a bee keeper, if you will. -- Walt On 6/21/2012 8:34 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I like it! Not the sharpest photo, but the composition, colors and that delightful bee all do their part to make a wonderful photo! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Sent: June 21, 2012 6/21/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Mimosa Buzz First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would lend a sense of motion. Just not sure if it works. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ K20D, Promaster 70-300/4-5.6, ISO 400, 1/400, f/8 I'm guessing I'm going to have to bump up the ISO and shutter speed enough to compensate for another aperture stop at f/9 to get a little more DOF. I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions anyone has to offer. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: pesos keeping cool today
On Jun 22, 2012, at 4:22 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: David Mann wrote: I also have a soft spot for elephants. ... _from_ elephants? ;-) That might explain a few things! Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz
On Jun 22, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ I don't know how much more you could push the ISO with the K20D. Sigh. Walt, take it from me: 400 ISO is _not_ pushing it on a K20D. :-) I'd be inclined to agree... I shoot at 400 by default on my K10D. Early on I took some test shots and I only noticed significant degradation above 400. After years of attempting to shoot handheld macro on 100 ISO film, being able to get such a clean image at 400 (compared to film) has made a huge difference. Not to mention trying to use long glass handheld. Tripods are just so cumbersome... :) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
