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I had an MRI of my neck and I was dizzy, disoriented, wasn't getting normal about of oxygen. I used magets to correct this but it took about 6 weeks on magnetic therapy to get it balanced again., Teri On 8/27/2015 10:23 PM, Dan Nave wrote: Currently, typical MRI utilizes static field with strengths of with strengths of 0.5 to 3 Tesla 0.5 to 3 Tesla (FDA guideline is max 4 T for infants 1 month guideline is max 4 T for infants 1 month and 8 T for others) and 8 T for others) 1 Tesla = 10,000 Gauss 1 Tesla = 10,000 Gauss Magnetic field strength of the earth ~ 0.5 Magnetic field strength of the earth ~ 0.5 Gauss There has been mention of dizziness and There has been mention of dizziness and disorientation of personnel and patients as disorientation of personnel and patients as they move through a field of 4T or higher. they move through a field of 4T or higher. There is There is no clinically significant effect no clinically significant effect on heart rate, systolic and diastolic blood heart rate, systolic and diastolic blood pressure, respiratory rate, core body pressure, respiratory rate, core body temperature for static fields up to 8 T. temperature for static fields up to 8 T. Biological Effect of Biological Effect of Time -varying Magnetic Field (3) varying Magnetic Field (3) The primary concerns with regard to time The primary concerns with regard to time - varying fields are varying fields are cardiac fibrillation cardiac fibrillation and brain stimulation brain stimulation. But study showed that But study showed that the risk of cardiac the risk of cardiac stimulation stimulation in present day MRI gradient in present day MRI gradient fields is negligible. fields is negligible. etc... quotes from https://www.temple.edu/medicine/departments_centers/clinical_departments/documents/MRI-safety-quiz.pdf so, I think the original comment is incorrect... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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This is from Sota's website: Do Not Use Do not use in the following situations as safety has not been explored: [image: a]In the case of pregnancy, nursing or trying to get pregnant. [image: a]With a pacemaker or other active implanted device. [image: a]With metal implants. [image: a] With peripheral Neuropathy or other nerve-ending related issues. This last point covers a whole lot of ground. It does not talk about elderly, or ohers who may be vulnerable. 6000 gauss and 2500 gauss are the settings. These are astronomical and if you have a neighbor who is elderly or has environmental illness. or a seizure disorder, this could harm them. These should be used only in a magnetic-shielded enclosure. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Teri t...@welshspringers.com wrote: I had an MRI of my neck and I was dizzy, disoriented, wasn't getting normal about of oxygen. I used magets to correct this but it took about 6 weeks on magnetic therapy to get it balanced again., Teri On 8/27/2015 10:23 PM, Dan Nave wrote: Currently, typical MRI utilizes static field with strengths of with strengths of 0.5 to 3 Tesla 0.5 to 3 Tesla (FDA guideline is max 4 T for infants 1 month guideline is max 4 T for infants 1 month and 8 T for others) and 8 T for others) „ 1 Tesla = 10,000 Gauss 1 Tesla = 10,000 Gauss „Magnetic field strength of the earth ~ 0.5 Magnetic field strength of the earth ~ 0.5 Gauss There has been mention of dizziness and There has been mention of dizziness and disorientation of personnel and patients as disorientation of personnel and patients as they move through a field of 4T or higher. they move through a field of 4T or higher. There is There is no clinically significant effect no clinically significant effect on heart rate, systolic and diastolic blood heart rate, systolic and diastolic blood pressure, respiratory rate, core body pressure, respiratory rate, core body temperature for static fields up to 8 T. temperature for static fields up to 8 T. Biological Effect of Biological Effect of Time -varying Magnetic Field (3) varying Magnetic Field (3) „ The primary concerns with regard to time The primary concerns with regard to time - varying fields are varying fields are cardiac fibrillation cardiac fibrillation and brain stimulation brain stimulation. „ But study showed that But study showed that the risk of cardiac the risk of cardiac stimulation stimulation in present day MRI gradient in present day MRI gradient fields is negligible. fields is negligible. etc... quotes from https://www.temple.edu/medicine/departments_centers/clinical_departments/documents/MRI-safety-quiz.pdf so, I think the original comment is incorrect... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 08/30/2015 09:11 PM, evelyn wrote: This is from Sota's website: (snip) 6000 gauss and 2500 gauss are the settings. These are astronomical and if you have a neighbor who is elderly or has environmental illness. or a seizure disorder, this could harm them. These should be used only in a magnetic-shielded enclosure. That depends entirely on the size of the coils, because the magnetic near field field falls off in strength, with distance, in proportion to the size of the coil generating the field. A 20 foot diameter coil might, indeed, affect the neighbors in the next apartment. A 3 inch coil generating 6000 gauss would have a field strength well below that of the Earth, (a half gauss) next door. Size matters, in this case. After you get about 2 coil diameters away, the field strength falls off as the cube of distance. So a 3 inch coil has a near field (that varies more with direction than distance) out to about 6 inches. Then, whatever field there is, there, falls to 1/8 that (1/(2 cubed)) at 12 inches, 1/27 (1/(3 cubed)) at 18 inches, 1/64 (1/(4 cubed)) at 24 inches, etc. That would drop the 6000 gauss field strength to less than 6000 gauss/64=94 gauss at two feet from the 3 inch coil. And that is an upper limit, depending on coil shape and from the coil direction. Some directions would see much less magnetic field. I don't know what size coils the Sota unit uses. But I am guessing they are not something you lie down inside of. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 27 Aug 2015 at 17:55, John Popelish wrote about : Subject : Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments On 08/27/2015 05:43 PM, Steve wrote: There is also a big difference when pulsing bio north magnetic energy which has many positive healing benefits. Google it. I don't see how this could be real. Magnetic field lined are loops and north and south poles are just arbitrary human ideas about what to call the sides of planes through space that cut across these these loops. Poles are not inherent parts of magnetic flux. Sounds like religion, to me. -- Regards, John Popelish ___ Hi John, My take is that it is pure science, as in observation, experience and repeatability. I think the reasoncould be based on that each pole will either suck or blow and based on that there is a difference. Put two magnets together: they know there is a difference. :-) OK, Tony Moody -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I've had great success with pulsating magnetic therapy for FM (fibromyalgia) as often deal with stiff spine pains... this really works! It's too bad it's not well known yet --- in NJ - there's only so few trained practitioners that offers this service but they're s far away. Glad to know SOTA may solve my problem... hmmm- Christmas Wish List time! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Very well put LolaDee Sent from my iPad On 28 Aug 2015, at 05:14, Lola Harris phoenix23...@tds.net wrote: John, skepticism is always appropriate. I think (just my opinion) that folks like us are probably more skeptical than the general population. We do our research and our homework and then try things out. If we weren't skeptics, we would be broke and in pain and have deteriorating health (ie: falling for everything). We learn to separate the gold from the drosslol.. I am sure we come across some duds from time to time but we also discover some real gems along the way. In the world of alternatives, it is the wild, wild west 'out there' and there seems to be a wonder cure of the week so.. you learn to develop a good 'bs' antennae, if you know what I mean. For some things, a double or single blind study is impossible... like DMSO. One cannot duplicate the odor that comes from using DMSO so, it works but it is impossible to 'test' it and meet FDA standards. I find it amusing at how vets are so open to 'alternatives' like DMSO and shark cartilage for inflammation, for instance. Their patients (like your dog) are impervious to placebo effects and can't rationalize or verbalize their conditions. Something either works with the animals or it doesn't. Personally, I see nothing wrong with a placebo effect. If it relieves a condition or pain... why not? They say we only use a small fraction of our brain/mind capacity. So, who knows what is going on with any certainty? Lola - Original Message - From: John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 23:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments On 08/27/2015 10:26 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: Uh... John... You do realize that we are kind of an underground mailing list for a reason, right? ;-) I.e. I don't think that many of us care a lot about peer reviewed publications in medical journals, as that is basically exclusive to big pharmaceutical companies, is often fraudulent (just like drug trials), or is suppressed when it concerns things outside of big pharma control. That doesn't mean we have to be gullible. That just invites the same sort of abuse from people competing with big pharma. I'm open minded, but I try to not let my brain fall out. But if reasonable scepticism is out of place here, then I will bow out. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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It seems you don't read well. I wrote it didn't always work. I am sorry for your dog who was made to suffer on one side of his body because of your slavish need to demand scientific evidence before you can be compassionate!PT From: John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:34 PM Subject: Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments On 08/27/2015 10:23 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: I don't need scientific evidence to tell me if something works or not. I live with pain and I use magnets... and they help more often than they don't. I've been using them for 30+ years so I think I am long past placebo. You are the perfect person to have a long lasting placebo effect. It doesn't expire after some number of days. You have strong confidence that they are working and so they work. I think you don't want to know whether you are benefiting from placebo effect or actual biophysics. If you did, you would have tried some control experiments, by now. I wanted to know whether silver water was helping my dog's chronic skin infection. So I used silver water one side and plain water on the other side. It wasn't double blind, but it was single blind. The dog didn't know what was used on which side. The silver side healed while the plain water side got worse. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Go find the books of Davis and Rawls. PT From: John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:13 AM Subject: Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments On 08/27/2015 11:58 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: I was just being a bit playful John. I do think we need skepticism, as we are always under attack from false prophets, promises, and profiteers. In any case, I think PT's google search would put your mind at ease, as it was filled with double-blind tests showing clear efficacy. I burned through a half dozen papers, so far, and found poor experiment description (not reproducible, from the description), arbitrary pulse frequency (DC to Hz) and amplitude, for no given reasons and slight positive effect, if any. We must be finding different papers, in that search. So far, no mention of any positive effect of particular pole polarity. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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My point in bringing any of this up is that humans have a powerful ability to find a nugget of truth, hidden in a truckload of clutter. But, unless we are willing to set aside our enthusiasm and work to separate that nugget of truth, we end up embracing the truckload of clutter. The reason science has been so successful at building a detailed model of how reality works, is because the method does not stop, just because some trial worked. In the case of magnetic healing aid, there may be a wonderful fact to be had. But if we latch onto the first trial that works, we may never gain that deeper understanding of exactly what is going on and how it operates and what parts of the original trial were just noise that obscured the important facts. On 08/28/2015 08:17 AM, PT Ferrance wrote: Go find the books of Davis and Rawls. PT *From:* John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com I burned through a half dozen papers, so far, and found poor experiment description (not reproducible, from the description), arbitrary pulse frequency (DC to Hz) and amplitude, for no given reasons and slight positive effect, if any. We must be finding different papers, in that search. So far, no mention of any positive effect of particular pole polarity. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Also well putDee Sent from my iPad On 28 Aug 2015, at 15:09, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: My point in bringing any of this up is that humans have a powerful ability to find a nugget of truth, hidden in a truckload of clutter. But, unless we are willing to set aside our enthusiasm and work to separate that nugget of truth, we end up embracing the truckload of clutter. The reason science has been so successful at building a detailed model of how reality works, is because the method does not stop, just because some trial worked. In the case of magnetic healing aid, there may be a wonderful fact to be had. But if we latch onto the first trial that works, we may never gain that deeper understanding of exactly what is going on and how it operates and what parts of the original trial were just noise that obscured the important facts. On 08/28/2015 08:17 AM, PT Ferrance wrote: Go find the books of Davis and Rawls. PT *From:* John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com I burned through a half dozen papers, so far, and found poor experiment description (not reproducible, from the description), arbitrary pulse frequency (DC to Hz) and amplitude, for no given reasons and slight positive effect, if any. We must be finding different papers, in that search. So far, no mention of any positive effect of particular pole polarity. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Evelyndo you use a cell phone? If you do, do you use any kind of shield device? On Thursday, August 27, 2015 5:06 PM, evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic instruments. Firstly, they are unsafe near the head - especilly for anyone with any kind of seizure disorder , alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity. Secondly, I saw on a website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for producing magnetic fields. It said it produced mag fields in the strength of hundreds of gauss. This is outrageous and could cause death in some people. 5 gauss for short exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a maximum. Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could feel.
CSelectromagnetic instruments
I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic instruments. Firstly, they are unsafe near the head - especilly for anyone with any kind of seizure disorder , alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity. Secondly, I saw on a website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for producing magnetic fields. It said it produced mag fields in the strength of hundreds of gauss. This is outrageous and could cause death in some people. 5 gauss for short exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a maximum. Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could feel.
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Try doing a bit of research to see what the clinical benefits are before casting it off as religion. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2015, at 2:55 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/27/2015 05:43 PM, Steve wrote: There is also a big difference when pulsing bio north magnetic energy which has many positive healing benefits. Google it. I don't see how this could be real. Magnetic field lined are loops and north and south poles are just arbitrary human ideas about what to call the sides of planes through space that cut across these these loops. Poles are not inherent parts of magnetic flux. Sounds like religion, to me. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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There is also a big difference when pulsing bio north magnetic energy which has many positive healing benefits. Google it. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2015, at 2:39 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: It may make a lot of difference whether you are talking about head/full body exposure, or local exposure. Your hands are exposed to hundreds of gauss when you hold a refrigerator magnet. On 08/27/2015 05:06 PM, evelyn wrote: I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic instruments. Firstly, they are unsafe near the head - especilly for anyone with any kind of seizure disorder , alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity. Secondly, I saw on a website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for producing magnetic fields. It said it produced mag fields in the strength of hundreds of gauss. This is outrageous and could cause death in some people.  5 gauss for short exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a maximum. Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could feel. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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It may make a lot of difference whether you are talking about head/full body exposure, or local exposure. Your hands are exposed to hundreds of gauss when you hold a refrigerator magnet. On 08/27/2015 05:06 PM, evelyn wrote: I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic instruments. Firstly, they are unsafe near the head - especilly for anyone with any kind of seizure disorder , alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity. Secondly, I saw on a website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for producing magnetic fields. It said it produced mag fields in the strength of hundreds of gauss. This is outrageous and could cause death in some people.  5 gauss for short exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a maximum. Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could feel. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 08/27/2015 05:43 PM, Steve wrote: There is also a big difference when pulsing bio north magnetic energy which has many positive healing benefits. Google it. I don't see how this could be real. Magnetic field lined are loops and north and south poles are just arbitrary human ideas about what to call the sides of planes through space that cut across these these loops. Poles are not inherent parts of magnetic flux. Sounds like religion, to me. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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go to Biomagscience.net .Lots of good info Christel In a message dated 8/27/2015 5:58:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, scl...@cox.net writes: Try doing a bit of research to see what the clinical benefits are before casting it off as religion. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2015, at 2:55 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/27/2015 05:43 PM, Steve wrote: There is also a big difference when pulsing bio north magnetic energy which has many positive healing benefits. Google it. I don't see how this could be real. Magnetic field lined are loops and north and south poles are just arbitrary human ideas about what to call the sides of planes through space that cut across these these loops. Poles are not inherent parts of magnetic flux. Sounds like religion, to me. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hundreds of gauss of any artificial magnetic field is unnatural. If something causes bioeffects, which benefit someone, that can harm someone else. Radiation therapy for cancer for exmple. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 2:39 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: It may make a lot of difference whether you are talking about head/full body exposure, or local exposure. Your hands are exposed to hundreds of gauss when you hold a refrigerator magnet. On 08/27/2015 05:06 PM, evelyn wrote: I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic instruments. Firstly, they are unsafe near the head - especilly for anyone with any kind of seizure disorder , alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity. Secondly, I saw on a website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for producing magnetic fields. It said it produced mag fields in the strength of hundreds of gauss. This is outrageous and could cause death in some people.  5 gauss for short exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a maximum. Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could feel. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Just FYI, I, and many of my family members have used the Magnetic Pulser from Sota Instruments for many years, and we have experienced nothing but health benefits. It has been used on every part of our bodies, and extensively on the head and gut in some instances. I used it to great effect to eliminate tooth abscess in the past, and periodically 'pulse' my entire head as a kind of routine maintenance. I have posted here before about my experiences with this device. And yea, I only use the North end, as indicated on the device. Victor On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:27 AM, evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com wrote: Hundreds of gauss of any artificial magnetic field is unnatural. If something causes bioeffects, which benefit someone, that can harm someone else. Radiation therapy for cancer for exmple. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 2:39 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: It may make a lot of difference whether you are talking about head/full body exposure, or local exposure. Your hands are exposed to hundreds of gauss when you hold a refrigerator magnet. On 08/27/2015 05:06 PM, evelyn wrote: I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic instruments. Firstly, they are unsafe near the head - especilly for anyone with any kind of seizure disorder , alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity. Secondly, I saw on a website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for producing magnetic fields. It said it produced mag fields in the strength of hundreds of gauss. This is outrageous and could cause death in some people.  5 gauss for short exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a maximum. Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could feel. -- Regards, John Popelish
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http://healyourselfathome.com/HOW/THERAPIES/SOTA/magnetic_pulser.aspx Magnetic NORTH pole energy (Side of paddle labeled “N”) is used to: ·Inactivate bacteria, fungi and viruses * ·Reduce inflammation ·Increase cellular energy production ·Calm nerves ·Destroy cancer cells ·Increase blood oxygen ·Slow down OVER-active organs ·Reduce pain ·Reduce congestion ·Dissolve Fat ·Increase alkalinity ·Control bleeding evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com wrote: = Victor, what are the stats on your item? On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Just FYI, I, and many of my family members have used the Magnetic Pulser from Sota Instruments for many years, and we have experienced nothing but health benefits. It has been used on every part of our bodies, and extensively on the head and gut in some instances. I used it to great effect to eliminate tooth abscess in the past, and periodically 'pulse' my entire head as a kind of routine maintenance. I have posted here before about my experiences with this device. And yea, I only use the North end, as indicated on the device. Victor On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:27 AM, evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com wrote: Hundreds of gauss of any artificial magnetic field is unnatural. If something causes bioeffects, which benefit someone, that can harm someone else. Radiation therapy for cancer for exmple. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 2:39 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: It may make a lot of difference whether you are talking about head/full body exposure, or local exposure. Your hands are exposed to hundreds of gauss when you hold a refrigerator magnet. On 08/27/2015 05:06 PM, evelyn wrote: I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic instruments. Firstly, they are unsafe near the head - especilly for anyone with any kind of seizure disorder , alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity. Secondly, I saw on a website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for producing magnetic fields. It said it produced mag fields in the strength of hundreds of gauss. This is outrageous and could cause death in some people.  5 gauss for short exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a maximum. Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could feel. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I agree, PT. I have been using magnets since the nineties when using magnets for health was pretty newand radical. I bought two books (written by doctors who were probably considered mavericks in their day), read themand bought some Tectonic magnets with a healthy respect for using only therapeutic magnets, not magsthat you yank off your fridge, as well as a caution for using only the negative side of the mags except inrare and specific instances. I grilled Peter pretty good before I bought his bio- magnets. They have proven to be everything he said theywould be... very powerful for their size and his advice and input is priceless. He generously gives of his time and expertise. I resolved a long standing neck/spinal problem using his magnets, one I had had for some thirtyyears as the result of a bad auto accident. It is a rare day that I am not wearing his magnets somewhere on my body. Yes... the biomags are that good.Lola - Original Message - From: PT Ferrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 22:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments I don't need scientific evidence to tell me if something works or not. I live with pain and I use magnets... and they help more often than they don't. I've been using them for 30+ years so I think I am long past placebo. I have recently read some unkind words about Peter Kulish. His magnets are a bit pricey but they come with a lifetime replacement warranty. Their design is also extremely well thought out with indicators for polarity that can be discerned by both sight and touch. Also, he is available to answer questions about treatment if people have any. Do magnets work for everyone? Of course not... but then I don't know anything that does!PT From: John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 10:08 PM Subject: Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments On 08/27/2015 09:25 PM, Steve Levine wrote: http://healyourselfathome.com/HOW/THERAPIES/SOTA/magnetic_pulser.aspx Magnetic NORTH pole energy (Side of paddle labeled N) is used to: Inactivate bacteria, fungi and viruses *Reduce inflammationIncrease cellular energy productionCalm nervesDestroy cancer cells Increase blood oxygenSlow down OVER-active organsReduce pain Reduce congestionDissolve FatIncrease alkalinityControl bleedingHave double blind trials been done(where neither subject nor experimenterknows whether a subject has received a north pole,a south pole, or an inactive (placebo) device),for each of those effects,so that results could be tabulated,without human bias?Were these results publishedin a peer reviewed medical journal?If so, I would like to see that report.If not, we are back to religion(claims with no evidence). -- Regards,John Popelish--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.orgUnsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribeArchives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.htmlOff-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comList Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Enjoy: https://www.google.com/search?q=double+blind+trials+on+pulsed+magnet+field+healingoq=douaqs=chrome.0.69i59l2j69i65l2j69i57j69i60.3915j0j4sourceid=chromees_sm=122ie=UTF-8#q=double+blind+trials+on+pulsed+magnetic+field+healing John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: = On 08/27/2015 09:25 PM, Steve Levine wrote: http://healyourselfathome.com/HOW/THERAPIES/SOTA/magnetic_pulser.aspx Magnetic NORTH pole energy (Side of paddle labeled N) is used to: Inactivate bacteria, fungi and viruses * Reduce inflammation Increase cellular energy production Calm nerves Destroy cancer cells Increase blood oxygen Slow down OVER-active organs Reduce pain Reduce congestion Dissolve Fat Increase alkalinity Control bleeding Have double blind trials been done (where neither subject nor experimenter knows whether a subject has received a north pole, a south pole, or an inactive (placebo) device), for each of those effects, so that results could be tabulated, without human bias? Were these results published in a peer reviewed medical journal? If so, I would like to see that report. If not, we are back to religion (claims with no evidence). -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 08/27/2015 10:26 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: Uh... John... You do realize that we are kind of an underground mailing list for a reason, right? ;-) I.e. I don't think that many of us care a lot about peer reviewed publications in medical journals, as that is basically exclusive to big pharmaceutical companies, is often fraudulent (just like drug trials), or is suppressed when it concerns things outside of big pharma control. That doesn't mean we have to be gullible. That just invites the same sort of abuse from people competing with big pharma. I'm open minded, but I try to not let my brain fall out. But if reasonable scepticism is out of place here, then I will bow out. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Uh... John... You do realize that we are kind of an underground mailing list for a reason, right? ;-) I.e. I don't think that many of us care a lot about peer reviewed publications in medical journals, as that is basically exclusive to big pharmaceutical companies, is often fraudulent (just like drug trials), or is suppressed when it concerns things outside of big pharma control. Dr. Beck's work has a history of interesting issues regarding such, as his work was methodically cut from publications in years past. And when I say 'cut' I mean that the work was physically cut with a razor to be removed from publications in libraries. Just thought you would find that interesting. Victor On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:08 AM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/27/2015 09:25 PM, Steve Levine wrote: http://healyourselfathome.com/HOW/THERAPIES/SOTA/magnetic_pulser.aspx Magnetic NORTH pole energy (Side of paddle labeled N ) is used to: Inactivate bacteria, fungi and viruses * Reduce inflammation Increase cellular energy production Calm nerves Destroy cancer cells Increase blood oxygen Slow down OVER-active organs Reduce pain Reduce congestion Dissolve Fat Increase alkalinity Control bleeding Have double blind trials been done (where neither subject nor experimenter knows whether a subject has received a north pole, a south pole, or an inactive (placebo) device), for each of those effects, so that results could be tabulated, without human bias? Were these results published in a peer reviewed medical journal? If so, I would like to see that report. If not, we are back to religion (claims with no evidence). -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Victor, what are the stats on your item? On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Victor Cozzetto victor.cozze...@gmail.com wrote: Just FYI, I, and many of my family members have used the Magnetic Pulser from Sota Instruments for many years, and we have experienced nothing but health benefits. It has been used on every part of our bodies, and extensively on the head and gut in some instances. I used it to great effect to eliminate tooth abscess in the past, and periodically 'pulse' my entire head as a kind of routine maintenance. I have posted here before about my experiences with this device. And yea, I only use the North end, as indicated on the device. Victor On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 8:27 AM, evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com wrote: Hundreds of gauss of any artificial magnetic field is unnatural. If something causes bioeffects, which benefit someone, that can harm someone else. Radiation therapy for cancer for exmple. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 2:39 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: It may make a lot of difference whether you are talking about head/full body exposure, or local exposure. Your hands are exposed to hundreds of gauss when you hold a refrigerator magnet. On 08/27/2015 05:06 PM, evelyn wrote: I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic instruments. Firstly, they are unsafe near the head - especilly for anyone with any kind of seizure disorder , alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity. Secondly, I saw on a website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for producing magnetic fields. It said it produced mag fields in the strength of hundreds of gauss. This is outrageous and could cause death in some people.  5 gauss for short exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a maximum. Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could feel. -- Regards, John Popelish
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Currently, typical MRI utilizes static field with strengths of with strengths of 0.5 to 3 Tesla 0.5 to 3 Tesla (FDA guideline is max 4 T for infants 1 month guideline is max 4 T for infants 1 month and 8 T for others) and 8 T for others) 1 Tesla = 10,000 Gauss 1 Tesla = 10,000 Gauss Magnetic field strength of the earth ~ 0.5 Magnetic field strength of the earth ~ 0.5 Gauss There has been mention of dizziness and There has been mention of dizziness and disorientation of personnel and patients as disorientation of personnel and patients as they move through a field of 4T or higher. they move through a field of 4T or higher. There is There is no clinically significant effect no clinically significant effect on heart rate, systolic and diastolic blood heart rate, systolic and diastolic blood pressure, respiratory rate, core body pressure, respiratory rate, core body temperature for static fields up to 8 T. temperature for static fields up to 8 T. Biological Effect of Biological Effect of Time -varying Magnetic Field (3) varying Magnetic Field (3) The primary concerns with regard to time The primary concerns with regard to time - varying fields are varying fields are cardiac fibrillation cardiac fibrillation and brain stimulation brain stimulation. But study showed that But study showed that the risk of cardiac the risk of cardiac stimulation stimulation in present day MRI gradient in present day MRI gradient fields is negligible. fields is negligible. etc... quotes from https://www.temple.edu/medicine/departments_centers/clinical_departments/documents/MRI-safety-quiz.pdf so, I think the original comment is incorrect... On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:06 PM, evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic instruments. Firstly, they are unsafe near the head - especilly for anyone with any kind of seizure disorder , alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity. Secondly, I saw on a website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for producing magnetic fields. It said it produced mag fields in the strength of hundreds of gauss. This is outrageous and could cause death in some people. 5 gauss for short exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a maximum. Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could feel.
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I don't need scientific evidence to tell me if something works or not. I live with pain and I use magnets... and they help more often than they don't. I've been using them for 30+ years so I think I am long past placebo. I have recently read some unkind words about Peter Kulish. His magnets are a bit pricey but they come with a lifetime replacement warranty. Their design is also extremely well thought out with indicators for polarity that can be discerned by both sight and touch. Also, he is available to answer questions about treatment if people have any. Do magnets work for everyone? Of course not... but then I don't know anything that does!PT From: John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 10:08 PM Subject: Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments On 08/27/2015 09:25 PM, Steve Levine wrote: http://healyourselfathome.com/HOW/THERAPIES/SOTA/magnetic_pulser.aspx Magnetic NORTH pole energy (Side of paddle labeled N) is used to: Inactivate bacteria, fungi and viruses * Reduce inflammation Increase cellular energy production Calm nerves Destroy cancer cells Increase blood oxygen Slow down OVER-active organs Reduce pain Reduce congestion Dissolve Fat Increase alkalinity Control bleeding Have double blind trials been done (where neither subject nor experimenter knows whether a subject has received a north pole, a south pole, or an inactive (placebo) device), for each of those effects, so that results could be tabulated, without human bias? Were these results published in a peer reviewed medical journal? If so, I would like to see that report. If not, we are back to religion (claims with no evidence). -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 08/27/2015 10:23 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: I don't need scientific evidence to tell me if something works or not. I live with pain and I use magnets... and they help more often than they don't. I've been using them for 30+ years so I think I am long past placebo. You are the perfect person to have a long lasting placebo effect. It doesn't expire after some number of days. You have strong confidence that they are working and so they work. I think you don't want to know whether you are benefiting from placebo effect or actual biophysics. If you did, you would have tried some control experiments, by now. I wanted to know whether silver water was helping my dog's chronic skin infection. So I used silver water one side and plain water on the other side. It wasn't double blind, but it was single blind. The dog didn't know what was used on which side. The silver side healed while the plain water side got worse. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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John, skepticism is always appropriate. I think (just my opinion) that folks like us are probably more skeptical than the general population. We do our research and our homework and then try things out. If we weren't skeptics, we would be broke and in pain and have deteriorating health (ie: falling for everything). We learn to separate the gold from the drosslol.. I am sure we come across some duds from time to time but we also discover some real gems along the way. In the world of alternatives, it is the wild, wild west 'out there' and there seems to be a wonder cure of the week so.. you learn to develop a good 'bs' antennae, if you know what I mean. For some things, a double or single blind study is impossible... like DMSO. One cannot duplicate the odor that comes from using DMSO so, it works but it is impossible to 'test' it and meet FDA standards. I find it amusing at how vets are so open to 'alternatives' like DMSO and shark cartilage for inflammation, for instance. Their patients (like your dog) are impervious to placebo effects and can't rationalize or verbalize their conditions. Something either works with the animals or it doesn't. Personally, I see nothing wrong with a placebo effect. If it relieves a condition or pain... why not? They say we only use a small fraction of our brain/mind capacity. So, who knows what is going on with any certainty? Lola - Original Message - From: John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 23:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: CSelectromagnetic instruments On 08/27/2015 10:26 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: Uh... John... You do realize that we are kind of an underground mailing list for a reason, right? ;-) I.e. I don't think that many of us care a lot about peer reviewed publications in medical journals, as that is basically exclusive to big pharmaceutical companies, is often fraudulent (just like drug trials), or is suppressed when it concerns things outside of big pharma control. That doesn't mean we have to be gullible. That just invites the same sort of abuse from people competing with big pharma. I'm open minded, but I try to not let my brain fall out. But if reasonable scepticism is out of place here, then I will bow out. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 08/27/2015 11:58 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: I was just being a bit playful John. I do think we need skepticism, as we are always under attack from false prophets, promises, and profiteers. In any case, I think PT's google search would put your mind at ease, as it was filled with double-blind tests showing clear efficacy. I burned through a half dozen papers, so far, and found poor experiment description (not reproducible, from the description), arbitrary pulse frequency (DC to Hz) and amplitude, for no given reasons and slight positive effect, if any. We must be finding different papers, in that search. So far, no mention of any positive effect of particular pole polarity. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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A few more: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=double+blind+trials+on+PEMFhl=enas_sdt=0as_vis=1oi=scholartsa=Xved=0CCkQgQMwAGoVChMI6oG2yvXKxwIVAZWICh1Lhwui Note they may not say whether it was north or south or the frequency but the point is PEMFs are being used successfully in medicine and there have been double blind trails with positive results. No religion there. I know it's not worth much to you but I have had some good pain relieving results with a SOTA magpulser as well. I love my placebo. Steve John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: = On 08/27/2015 11:58 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: I was just being a bit playful John. I do think we need skepticism, as we are always under attack from false prophets, promises, and profiteers. In any case, I think PT's google search would put your mind at ease, as it was filled with double-blind tests showing clear efficacy. I burned through a half dozen papers, so far, and found poor experiment description (not reproducible, from the description), arbitrary pulse frequency (DC to Hz) and amplitude, for no given reasons and slight positive effect, if any. We must be finding different papers, in that search. So far, no mention of any positive effect of particular pole polarity. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I was just being a bit playful John. I do think we need skepticism, as we are always under attack from false prophets, promises, and profiteers. In any case, I think PT's google search would put your mind at ease, as it was filled with double-blind tests showing clear efficacy. Victor On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:38 PM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/27/2015 10:26 PM, Victor Cozzetto wrote: Uh... John... You do realize that we are kind of an underground mailing list for a reason, right? ;-) I.e. I don't think that many of us care a lot about peer reviewed publications in medical journals, as that is basically exclusive to big pharmaceutical companies, is often fraudulent (just like drug trials), or is suppressed when it concerns things outside of big pharma control. That doesn't mean we have to be gullible. That just invites the same sort of abuse from people competing with big pharma. I'm open minded, but I try to not let my brain fall out. But if reasonable scepticism is out of place here, then I will bow out. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 08/27/2015 09:25 PM, Steve Levine wrote: http://healyourselfathome.com/HOW/THERAPIES/SOTA/magnetic_pulser.aspx Magnetic NORTH pole energy (Side of paddle labeled N) is used to: Inactivate bacteria, fungi and viruses * Reduce inflammation Increase cellular energy production Calm nerves Destroy cancer cells Increase blood oxygen Slow down OVER-active organs Reduce pain Reduce congestion Dissolve Fat Increase alkalinity Control bleeding Have double blind trials been done (where neither subject nor experimenter knows whether a subject has received a north pole, a south pole, or an inactive (placebo) device), for each of those effects, so that results could be tabulated, without human bias? Were these results published in a peer reviewed medical journal? If so, I would like to see that report. If not, we are back to religion (claims with no evidence). -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Did seem kinda impractical, imo, to implement something that would use so much power. Producing hundreds of gauss would affect surrounding electronic devices as well, wouldn't it? Kenneth Karen is Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise From:evelyn evesnew...@gmail.com Date:Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 17:07 Subject:CSelectromagnetic instruments I wanted to csution everyone about electromagnetic instruments. Firstly, they are unsafe near the head - especilly for anyone with any kind of seizure disorder , alzheimers, or elecrical sensitivity. Secondly, I saw on a website related to Dr. Beck's protocol an instrument for producing magnetic fields. It said it produced mag fields in the strength of hundreds of gauss. This is outrageous and could cause death in some people. 5 gauss for short exposures is a standard even OSHA uses. as a maximum. Hundreds of gauss is something the whole neighborhood could feel.
