Re: [Talk-transit] OSM / OPNV-Karte to Excel/SVG
Hi Tiziano, I am not aware of any tools which can do what you want out of the box. but here are some ideas which might be helpful for you: I use Xapi [1] a lot to retrieve only a specific portion of the OSM data for a large area (e.g. all relations with a route=bus tag). Once I have osm file with all the data I need, I find it quite convenient to use xslt to convert the xml data into other formats. I have some scripts that might be helpful to get the grip of xslt. If you are interested I can sent them to you. I use these scripts for example to convert nodes or ways from osm into sql insert statements, but you can easily create a csv files as well. Topological maps can be created with mapnik which supports outputting svg files. If you use version 0.6.0 or newer you can directly use an osm file as data source. I do not know of any tool to create a straight line graph of a way. I thought a while ago about writing a tool to draw such graphs but never got round to actually do it. My idea was to reproject the input data way segment by way segment so that it was on a straight line and then feed this into mapnik. You could, of course, also write an xslt script which converts the osm data directly to mapnik. Cheers, Christoph [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Xapi On 19/01/2010 23:16, Tiziano D'Angelo wrote: Hello to everyone! I am currently building the Padova bus tram network. Almost all the routes are there, and most of the stops in the city center. I'm doing then line by line surveys about the missing stops. The current result is visible here: http://www.öpnvkarte.de/?zoom=12lat=45.40287lon=11.8559layers=BThttp://www.xn--pnvkarte-m4a.de/?zoom=12lat=45.40287lon=11.8559layers=BTand http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/382350 as a network relation. I'm currently ordering the stops so they show up in OPNVKarte in the proper order. As another bonus to the work done, I'd love to export the data of each route relation first to some excel/text/CSV file or database where I can see lat/long + name of the stop in the correct forward/backward order for each line (so I can send the updated data to the author of Metro ( http://nanika.net/Metro), and then, I'd like to export the data to SVG files to do graphs for each route of the network (both as topological maps http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bakerloo_line_Topological_map.svg and as this graph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bakerloo_Line.svg) and also of the entire network, just leaving on it the lines and names of the stops, and as a further development, create a map similar to the Paris/London metro network. Could anybody explain me how to do any of these things? Thanks Tiziano ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Fwd: Novam viewer
Thanks for the forwarded message, Shaun. The problem is that Novam is not using osmosis but a home-brewed python script to update its database. So, either need to update this script or (probably the better solution in the long-run) build an update process based on Osmosis. Cheers, Christoph Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk schrieb: Hi Christoph, I hope that this helps. If not, Brett is happy to help with getting Osmosis working with the newer diffs. Shaun Begin forwarded message: From: Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com Date: 17 January 2010 21:34:42 GMT To: Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Novam viewer Hi Shaun, Do they need any help? If they're currently using the --read-change-interval task to download updates it should be straightforward to switch to the --read-replication-interval task instead. Brett On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: Another service that has just realised that they have diff update issues, just in case you are not on this list. Shaun Begin forwarded message: From: Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net Date: 17 January 2010 12:04:11 GMT To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics talk-transit@openstreetmap.org Cc: e...@loach.me.uk Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Novam viewer Reply-To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics talk-transit@openstreetmap.org Hi Ed, the updates used to be done from minutely diffs but since the old minutely-diffs have been replaced by the new replication diffs this is not working anymore. I only noticed this problem two days ago and have not yet decided how to fix it in NOVAM. At the moment updates are only done once a day. I will update the wiki page to explain this. Christoph Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk schrieb: I verified a number of bus stops yesterday and entered the information this morning. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3638396 The help for the Novam viewer suggests that it is updated from minutely diffs, but these changes were uploaded an hour ago and don't seem to show in Novam yet (though the moved bus stops are rendering in their new locations in the background layer). Is this a problem with the viewer or the diffs? Ah. I just scrolled down and see the bus stops were last updated at midnight this morning. Is that then just a mistake in the OSM wiki that I read when I followed the help link? Ed ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [talk-ph] new imagery available in Bulacan, Pampanga and Nueva Ecija area (SPOT5)
Hi Maning, Just wondrin what are we going to use as source- name. From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: 01/21/2010 11:15 AM Subject: [talk-ph] new imagery available in Bulacan, Pampanga and Nueva Ecija area(SPOT5) This came from the SPOT5 donated by Spot-Asia and Certeza Infosys last year. Pixel resolution is around 10 meters date taken 2008-03-12. Instructions on how to use in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/hires_imagery#Portions_of_Bulacan.2C_Pampanga_and_Nueva_Ecija And my blog post here: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2010/01/21/eastern-bulacan-pampanga-and-nueva-ecija-imagery-update-in-openstreetmap/ Enjoy! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] new imagery available in Bulacan, Pampanga and Nueva Ecija area (SPOT5)
source=spot5 I updated the wiki. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:36 AM, anthony.bal...@neraphil.com.ph wrote: Hi Maning, Just wondrin what are we going to use as source- name. From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: 01/21/2010 11:15 AM Subject: [talk-ph] new imagery available in Bulacan, Pampanga and Nueva Ecija area (SPOT5) This came from the SPOT5 donated by Spot-Asia and Certeza Infosys last year. Pixel resolution is around 10 meters date taken 2008-03-12. Instructions on how to use in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/hires_imagery#Portions_of_Bulacan.2C_Pampanga_and_Nueva_Ecija And my blog post here: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2010/01/21/eastern-bulacan-pampanga-and-nueva-ecija-imagery-update-in-openstreetmap/ Enjoy! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] new imagery available in Bulacan, Pampanga and Nueva Ecija area (SPOT5)
Even though the spot5 is of lower resolution than Yahoo! I discovered some places where it has better data because it's newer than Yahoo's image. http://osm.org/go/4zhdlNxs Yahoo! data: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4292683864_83266fc3a4_o.jpg Spot5 data: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2719/4292684150_157054042f_o.jpg :) keep on mapping! On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:38 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: source=spot5 I updated the wiki. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:36 AM, anthony.bal...@neraphil.com.ph wrote: Hi Maning, Just wondrin what are we going to use as source- name. From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: 01/21/2010 11:15 AM Subject: [talk-ph] new imagery available in Bulacan, Pampanga and Nueva Ecija area (SPOT5) This came from the SPOT5 donated by Spot-Asia and Certeza Infosys last year. Pixel resolution is around 10 meters date taken 2008-03-12. Instructions on how to use in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/hires_imagery#Portions_of_Bulacan.2C_Pampanga_and_Nueva_Ecija And my blog post here: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2010/01/21/eastern-bulacan-pampanga-and-nueva-ecija-imagery-update-in-openstreetmap/ Enjoy! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment
Apparently, the digitalglobe imagery has been updated. I noticed when I was mapping around Jacmel. I don't know whether the imagery is *better* aligned but it its alignment is obviously different from the former image set (~ 50 m offset?). -- Karl Am 20.01.2010 05:20, schrieb David Fawcett: Is there confirmation that the referencing/rectification of the Digital Globe is good/best. I hate to keep moving features around to chase the latest imagery. David. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:27 PM, David G. Smith PE PLS dsm...@synergist-tech.com wrote: I had digitized some of those roads and features around Jacmel late last week from the DMA mapping, before the DigitalGlobe imagery or other good sources were available, with the full anticipation that they would eventually be updated via imagery. The bigger value to the DMA maps as I saw it is that they had some local cultural information such as POIs and place names, as well as basic road network. The DMA maps were scanned paper maps, rectified via NYPL MapWarper, no surprise that they might be off a tad here and there. I have since then been updating via DigitalGlobe, tho there are still some areas that need updating. So as far as “concern”, there shouldn’t be much, just stick with the more current and update the older stuff – though be thoughtful when deleting things outright. I think there is still some value to knowing what potential road network there may be (even if it’s tracks not well visible from the air- I’ve found some that are shown on the DMA maps but which are only barely discernible via tree crowns vaguely outlining the road underneath) and where there may be potential dwellings, et cetera (potentially obscured by tree cover) - I have been designating some of those more ambiguous ones (e.g. road network visible in DG imagery, but buildings not obvious) as “residential area” as there is probably a reason the roads are there. Obviously, if there is no tree cover, there is less ambiguity, the road may just be off in another direction, inaccurately placed on the DMA maps – worth looking around for it before deleting it outright – I’ve found that to be the case in a few instances as well. David G. Smith PE PLS Synergist Technology Group, Inc. 570.280.6763 From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Al Haraka Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:59 PM To: Brad Neuhauser Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment So it seems the consensus is to stick with DG, despite its problems. When something better comes along, we start using that. Am I following correctly? Some of the old stuff, especially the 1987 map, concerned me. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Brad Neuhauserbrad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: At least that was my assumption. Even if the DG imagery is off, it's more up-to-date than the 1987 map, so I moved the roads to align with the DG imagery. Much of the city (esp central city, north) has been realigned with the DG imagery. I also removed some streets traced from the map that were clearly wrong, and tagged some others with the fixme tag. Also, see the Street Names page for link to UN maps you can use for additional info. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Street_names Brad (neuhausr) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch wrote: Hi, I have the same problem. Brad Neuhauser said on the crisismapping list that lot of work has been done before digitalglobe was available. In particular, an old CIA map has been used, there are a lot of objects with a source tag refering to it. I've started to delete individual buildings which are obviously badly off. I'm not sure whether the digitalglobe imagery is correctly rectified, thought. Anybody? Regards Karl Am 19.01.2010 20:24, schrieb Al Haraka: All, I understand we are all busy, but I have some Haiti questions. The area around Jacmel in the south appears to be very messy at the moment, and I am only focusing on roads and basic infrastructure. The roads seem very far off, and at times some do not even seem to point to an artifact I can see in the imagery. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=18.22381lon=-72.52094zoom=16layers=B000FTF I have tried cleaning it up using the DigitalGlobe imagery, which I have assumed to be the best. Am I wrong here? What are other people using and what are the current recommendations? Am I doing a bad job or wasting my time aligning the roads if they are this far off? I realize my use of DG may bias me, and I have not taken the time to compare. That being said, I heard it was the most recent and expansive. Sorry for the newbishness here. I just want to help, and I heard Jacmel and all points south will be needed soon. Regards, _AJS -- Alexander J. Stein Cell: (201)
[OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] OSM Data]
Hello, I apologize to the members of CrisisMappers that are also subscribed to OSM-talk for forwarding some of the messages from CM that seem relevant for mapping to OSM-talk, making them receive the messages twice. Yesterday, someone asked me to do so on irc for a specific message. CM is a closed list, and also it has higher traffic than OSM-talk. So this kind of forwarding saves time for OSM-talk-only mappers. I think I'll continue to do so for the time being, for the messages that I notice as probably relevant to OSM-talk. And of course anybody who feels like doing so too is welcome (I need some sleep). I try to check on OSM-talk before I forward to avoid repetitions. Please kindly let me know if I am mistaken. Best regards, Jean-Guilhem Cailton Message original Sujet : [CrisisMappers] OSM Data Date : Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:57:19 -0600 De :Talbot Brooks tbro...@deltastate.edu Répondre à :crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Pour : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com OSM -- FANTASTIC JOB ON THE HYDROGRAPHY!!! Talbot Brooks, Director Center for Interdisciplinary Geospatial Information Technologies Delta State University Box 3325 Cleveland, MS 38733 USNG (NAD 83): 15SYT09823640 http://nmviewogc.cr.usgs.gov/Run.htm?BBOX=-90.74485,33.74149,-90.7262,33.7513CLASSIDSON=6%7C20LAYERSON=11914%7C9942%7C10362%7C9880%7C10361%7C10360%7C23115%7C1695LAYERSOFF=17260%7C16837%7C1652%7C11777%7C16788%7C16787%7C16962%7C16964%7C22599 O: 662-846-4520 C: 662-588-8649 F: 662-846-4099 tbro...@deltastate.edu mailto:tbro...@deltastate.edu http://gis.deltastate.edu http://gis.deltastate.edu/ http://mississippi.deltastate.edu http://mississippi.deltastate.edu/ And occasionally GIS, Operations MS Emergency Management Agency 1 MEMA Dr. Pearl, MS 39288 601.933.6362 http://www.msema.org http://www.msema.org/ CONFIDENTIALITY. This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. (Please note Delta State University's email system blocks all email with .zip attachments) __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4787 (20100119) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CrisisMappers" group. To post to this group, send email to crisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to crisismappers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] forward: [CrisisMappers] World Bank, GFDRR, RIT, ImageCAT Remote Sensing Mission to Haiti ‐ Status Report ‐ 19 January 2010
World Bank, GFDRR, RIT, ImageCAT Remote Sensing Mission to Haiti ‐ Status Report ‐ 19 January 2010 Preparations for the Haiti operations are well underway. The RIT Haiti Response Team has been assembled and is working on assigned tasks. The RIT aircraft is en route to the Bahamas for the first night. On Wednesday morning it will depart for Turks and Caicos Islands and refuel there. From there, it will proceed to the Port‐au‐Prince target area and begin image acquisition. Data will be transferred to a server at RIT for processing overnight and delivery to UB the next morning, approximately 12 hours after the aircraft landing. Updated Schedule Wed 1/20/10 0800 Aircraft departs Bahamas for Turks and Caicos 1000 Aircraft lands at Turks and Caicos for fuel 1200 Aircraft begins first data collect over PaP 1900 Aircraft returns to BQN in Puerto Rico 2000 Flight crew rest; graduate student transfers data to Rochester via internet Thurs ‐ Sunday 0600 Aircraft departs BQN for Haiti mission 1200 Aircraft lands at Gregorio Luperon Int Airport (MDPP) Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic for fuel 1300 Aircraft departs for Haiti mission 1900 Aircraft returns to BQN in Puerto Rico 2000 Flight crew rest; graduate student transfers data to Rochester via internet Monday 1/22/10 0600 Aircraft departs BQN for Rochester NY 1800 Aircraft arrives Rochester NY Expected products: Below is a brief description of the products that will be delivered. More detail will be provided in future updates. a) Geo‐rectified (easily ingested in map‐based software) and ortho‐ rectified (corrected for relief impacts) imagery + LiDAR digital elevation model (topography) and top‐surface model (building/vegetation heights) ‐ all in raster/grid formats for dissemination through Yahoo! and Google Earth. These data will be useful to responders and interpreters (damage assessment, building heights, etc.) and will map to real‐world coordinates for immediate in‐field use. Data will also be hosted at University at Buffalo (UB) and as back‐up, at the Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT). In addition, two sets of damage maps will be prepared by the ImageCat team. These maps shall be used to quantify the amount of damage to different types of building occupancies and eventually, be useful for the reconstruction effort. b) Value‐added products: By this we mean interpreted geospatial products that extend beyond data, e.g., land use classifications, building damage classifications, thermal anomaly detection, building height extraction, vegetation extraction, to name a few. These are products that will be developed by researchers at RIT, UB, Purdue, and University of Texas and others pro bono. They are intended to aid the recovery effort, but with the caveat that these products are not validated or field‐verified. They will be properly documented and will include meta‐data, thereby allowing users to assess their usefulness for any particular purpose. An example might be where different size cavities in buildings might lead to different thermal responses. [For back reports please contact Stuart Gill: sg...@worldbank.org] Stuart P. D. Gill --- Disaster Risk Management Sustainable development Latin America Caribbean The World Bank 1818 H St NW Washington DC sg...@worldbank.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file]
Forwarding to OSM-talk because I am subscribed to the 2 lists with 2 different addresses, which make cc: not working. :( Message original Sujet : Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file Date : Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:29:41 +0100 De :Jean-Guilhem Cailton jguil...@gmail.com Pour : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com, csad...@google.com Copie à : OSM-talk talk@openstreetmap.org Références : dfa48dae-e700-466a-93a8-4e38fe74a...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com 958520c7-5aaa-4401-aaf4-c689eedf8...@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com Hi, Please forgive my naive question : is OSM allowed to use this imagery for tracing ? Thank you very much Jean-Guilhem Cailton Christiaan Adams a écrit : High Resolution (15cm) imagery is now available for Port-au-Prince (acquired 17 Jan). We have burned it into the basemap in Google Maps. For more info, check out this blog post (and be sure to look at the Google Maps link it contains): http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-imagery-of-port-au-prince.html We have created a KML version, which is now available through our master KML file: http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml We are also making most of this imagery available for download, for non-commercial use related to emergency relief. See this page for details: http://www.google.com/relief/haitiearthquake/imagery.html The footprints of the images available for download are also available as one of the selections in the KML file linked above. We hope to get this imagery into the Google Earth basemap in the morning, along with other recent Haiti imagery in Google Earth's historical imagery tool. Let me know if you have any questions or problems accessing these resources. Any feedback on how they are being used would also be appreciated, and would help us better focus our efforts in the future. Thanks and keep up the amazing work everyone! -Christiaan - Christiaan Adams Google Earth Outreach Google Crisis Response csad...@google.com - On Jan 19, 3:23 pm, Christiaan Adams csad...@google.com wrote: Hi all, We just updated our KML with better GeoEye data (broader coverage and ortho-rectified), as well as new DigitalGlobe and NOAA data. Refresh your network link, or re-load it from here:http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file]
It is unlikely we will have access to it since it has a NC clause on it. Emilie Laffray 2010/1/20 Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com Forwarding to OSM-talk because I am subscribed to the 2 lists with 2 different addresses, which make cc: not working. :( Message original Sujet : Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file Date : Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:29:41 +0100 De : Jean-Guilhem Cailton jguil...@gmail.com jguil...@gmail.com Pour : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com, csad...@google.com Copie à : OSM-talk talk@openstreetmap.org talk@openstreetmap.org Références : dfa48dae-e700-466a-93a8-4e38fe74a...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.comdfa48dae-e700-466a-93a8-4e38fe74a...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com 958520c7-5aaa-4401-aaf4-c689eedf8...@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com958520c7-5aaa-4401-aaf4-c689eedf8...@21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com Hi, Please forgive my naive question : is OSM allowed to use this imagery for tracing ? Thank you very much Jean-Guilhem Cailton Christiaan Adams a écrit : High Resolution (15cm) imagery is now available for Port-au-Prince (acquired 17 Jan). We have burned it into the basemap in Google Maps. For more info, check out this blog post (and be sure to look at the Google Maps link it contains): http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-imagery-of-port-au-prince.html We have created a KML version, which is now available through our master KML file: http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml We are also making most of this imagery available for download, for non-commercial use related to emergency relief. See this page for details: http://www.google.com/relief/haitiearthquake/imagery.html The footprints of the images available for download are also available as one of the selections in the KML file linked above. We hope to get this imagery into the Google Earth basemap in the morning, along with other recent Haiti imagery in Google Earth's historical imagery tool. Let me know if you have any questions or problems accessing these resources. Any feedback on how they are being used would also be appreciated, and would help us better focus our efforts in the future. Thanks and keep up the amazing work everyone! -Christiaan - Christiaan Adams Google Earth Outreach Google Crisis Response csad...@google.com - On Jan 19, 3:23 pm, Christiaan Adams csad...@google.com csad...@google.com wrote: Hi all, We just updated our KML with better GeoEye data (broader coverage and ortho-rectified), as well as new DigitalGlobe and NOAA data. Refresh your network link, or re-load it from here:http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] coastline error checker stalled
Interesting, hadn't noticed. I'll see if I can work out what's happening. Have a nice day, On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Lennard l...@xs4all.nl wrote: David Groom wrote: The date of the last update of the coastline error checker is shown as 27 Dec 2009. That was what I found when looking for new coastline shapefiles for the Haiti map. I'm now running the coastline checker for myself to get new shapefiles. Cc'ing Martijn van Oosterhout, as he's the author of the coastline error checker. -- Lennard -- Martijn van Oosterhout klep...@gmail.com http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] coastline error checker stalled
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: Interesting, hadn't noticed. I'll see if I can work out what's happening. Increase 600M to 700M and you're set for another few months. Also, the MAX_NODES_PER_WAY can now be dropped from 12000 to 2000, now that no 2000+ node ways are left in OSM, and none can be created. Unless avar finds a way around that too, actually. :) -- Lennard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file]
Last I checked, the imagery had a non-commercial distribution limit on it (i.e. they don't want you to take their images and sell them to anyone at any point). All other uses were allowed (including derivative works and tracing) and in addition, we have explicit permission in writing from both Digital Globe and GeoEye. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote: It is unlikely we will have access to it since it has a NC clause on it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti coastline, [ was] coastline error checker stalled
Lennard wrote: I will however deploy newer coastlines to http://haiti.openstreetmap.nl/ These have now been deployed, based on planet-100119. -- Lennard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Routing - Optimally Sorting Vias
On 19/01/2010 20:02, Shaun McDonald wrote: You may find that adding openstreetmap to your web searches helps to find openstreetmap related stuff. Or even using this custom search of the wiki, mailing lists and forum: http://bit.ly/osmsearch -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti, Requests from Responders
This should probably be merged with http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/MappingCoordination#What_needs_to_be_mapped.3F I prefer having this information in short at the top of the page, additional info can be at the bottom. Jonas Am 20.01.2010 um 11:33 schrieb Mikel Maron: Many general mapping requests coming in from the field and other responding agencies. I've created a section on the wiki to collect these requests, and focus efforts to fulfill them. Once completed, we notify the requester that OSM has updated data. Yes, basically an ad-hoc ticketing system, working with the tools we have at hand. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/MappingCoordination#Requests_from_Responders It would be great for those of us on the CrisisMappers list particularly to look for such requests, respond that we're working on it, add it to the wiki, and mobilize mappers to work on the request. Thanks Mikel == Mikel Maron == http://mapkibera.org/ +254 (0) 724899738 mi...@osmfoundation.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file]
Message original Sujet : Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file Date : Wed, 20 Jan 2010 07:52:18 -0500 De :Lars Bromley lbrom...@aaas.org Pour : jguil...@gmail.com,csad...@google.com, crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Copie à : talk@openstreetmap.org This is the same stuff being made available over the last few days in various other formats that haven't had restrictions. I can speak particularly about the Jan 13 GeoEye-1 image and all DG imagery which has been communicated to me as being for 'unrestricted use' and for wide dissemination. I can help smooth over any problems with the two companies if needed. Lars Jean-Guilhem Cailton jguil...@gmail.com 01/20/10 7:29 AM Hi, Please forgive my naive question : is OSM allowed to use this imagery for tracing ? Thank you very much Jean-Guilhem Cailton Christiaan Adams a écrit : High Resolution (15cm) imagery is now available for Port-au-Prince (acquired 17 Jan). We have burned it into the basemap in Google Maps. For more info, check out this blog post (and be sure to look at the Google Maps link it contains): http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-imagery-of-port-au-prince.html We have created a KML version, which is now available through our master KML file: http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml We are also making most of this imagery available for download, for non-commercial use related to emergency relief. See this page for details: http://www.google.com/relief/haitiearthquake/imagery.html The footprints of the images available for download are also available as one of the selections in the KML file linked above. We hope to get this imagery into the Google Earth basemap in the morning, along with other recent Haiti imagery in Google Earth's historical imagery tool. Let me know if you have any questions or problems accessing these resources. Any feedback on how they are being used would also be appreciated, and would help us better focus our efforts in the future. Thanks and keep up the amazing work everyone! -Christiaan - Christiaan Adams Google Earth Outreach Google Crisis Response csad...@google.com - On Jan 19, 3:23 pm, Christiaan Adams csad...@google.com wrote: Hi all, We just updated our KML with better GeoEye data (broader coverage and ortho-rectified), as well as new DigitalGlobe and NOAA data. Refresh your network link, or re-load it from here:http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment
From the CrisisMappers list, I see that yes, the DG imagery was updated about six hours ago. If the cause of this is due to updating imagery, would it make sense for the imagery in the OSM feed to stabilize so that we don't keep redoing the same work because the imagery is aligned slightly differently? Maybe it's not even possible, and the crowd will provide. But as we've seen it gets confusing, frustrating, and sucks up a lot of effort. Has this been an issue in other areas or is it limited to Jacmel? Thanks, Brad On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch wrote: Apparently, the digitalglobe imagery has been updated. I noticed when I was mapping around Jacmel. I don't know whether the imagery is *better* aligned but it its alignment is obviously different from the former image set (~ 50 m offset?). -- Karl Am 20.01.2010 05:20, schrieb David Fawcett: Is there confirmation that the referencing/rectification of the Digital Globe is good/best. I hate to keep moving features around to chase the latest imagery. David. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:27 PM, David G. Smith PE PLS dsm...@synergist-tech.com wrote: I had digitized some of those roads and features around Jacmel late last week from the DMA mapping, before the DigitalGlobe imagery or other good sources were available, with the full anticipation that they would eventually be updated via imagery. The bigger value to the DMA maps as I saw it is that they had some local cultural information such as POIs and place names, as well as basic road network. The DMA maps were scanned paper maps, rectified via NYPL MapWarper, no surprise that they might be off a tad here and there. I have since then been updating via DigitalGlobe, tho there are still some areas that need updating. So as far as “concern”, there shouldn’t be much, just stick with the more current and update the older stuff – though be thoughtful when deleting things outright. I think there is still some value to knowing what potential road network there may be (even if it’s tracks not well visible from the air- I’ve found some that are shown on the DMA maps but which are only barely discernible via tree crowns vaguely outlining the road underneath) and where there may be potential dwellings, et cetera (potentially obscured by tree cover) - I have been designating some of those more ambiguous ones (e.g. road network visible in DG imagery, but buildings not obvious) as “residential area” as there is probably a reason the roads are there. Obviously, if there is no tree cover, there is less ambiguity, the road may just be off in another direction, inaccurately placed on the DMA maps – worth looking around for it before deleting it outright – I’ve found that to be the case in a few instances as well. David G. Smith PE PLS Synergist Technology Group, Inc. 570.280.6763 From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Al Haraka Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:59 PM To: Brad Neuhauser Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment So it seems the consensus is to stick with DG, despite its problems. When something better comes along, we start using that. Am I following correctly? Some of the old stuff, especially the 1987 map, concerned me. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Brad Neuhauserbrad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: At least that was my assumption. Even if the DG imagery is off, it's more up-to-date than the 1987 map, so I moved the roads to align with the DG imagery. Much of the city (esp central city, north) has been realigned with the DG imagery. I also removed some streets traced from the map that were clearly wrong, and tagged some others with the fixme tag. Also, see the Street Names page for link to UN maps you can use for additional info. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Street_names Brad (neuhausr) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch wrote: Hi, I have the same problem. Brad Neuhauser said on the crisismapping list that lot of work has been done before digitalglobe was available. In particular, an old CIA map has been used, there are a lot of objects with a source tag refering to it. I've started to delete individual buildings which are obviously badly off. I'm not sure whether the digitalglobe imagery is correctly rectified, thought. Anybody? Regards Karl Am 19.01.2010 20:24, schrieb Al Haraka: All, I understand we are all busy, but I have some Haiti questions. The area around Jacmel in the south appears to be very messy at the moment, and I am only focusing on roads and basic infrastructure. The roads seem very far off, and at times some do not even seem to point to an artifact I can see in the imagery.
Re: [OSM-talk] coastline error checker stalled
Hmm, ok. I've done than we'll see if it helps. Thanks, On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Lennard l...@xs4all.nl wrote: Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: Interesting, hadn't noticed. I'll see if I can work out what's happening. Increase 600M to 700M and you're set for another few months. Also, the MAX_NODES_PER_WAY can now be dropped from 12000 to 2000, now that no 2000+ node ways are left in OSM, and none can be created. Unless avar finds a way around that too, actually. :) -- Lennard -- Martijn van Oosterhout klep...@gmail.com http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment
I noticed some apparent shifting in DigitalGlobe imagery as well last night - also noticed that some of the newer DigitalGlobe imagery around Jacmel was not as clear as the prior imagery where I was working - hoping that iterations of archival imagery might become available at some point as well. In general, I think one of the issues we will continue to see is that I believe there is little rectification vs. actual ground control as one might have with conventional aerial orthophotos. At this point, I don't think we can get terribly deep in the weeds, other than to focus on reflecting basic infrastructure that would be useful to responders, e.g. road networks, communities, infrastructure, POIs and so on. Location may be a bit fuzzy but content is likely more important to support response. Jeff Harrison (CarbonProject) is also working on cascading WMS services which may help to aggregate various Haiti mapping and imagery assets via one URL for comparison and selecting between those available, as well as making the WMS services more easy to use in JOSM/Merkaartor/etc - and that may be very helpful as well. Just my $0.02... David G. Smith PE PLS Synergist Technology Group, Inc. 570.280.6763 -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Karl Guggisberg Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:47 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment Apparently, the digitalglobe imagery has been updated. I noticed when I was mapping around Jacmel. I don't know whether the imagery is *better* aligned but it its alignment is obviously different from the former image set (~ 50 m offset?). -- Karl Am 20.01.2010 05:20, schrieb David Fawcett: Is there confirmation that the referencing/rectification of the Digital Globe is good/best. I hate to keep moving features around to chase the latest imagery. David. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:27 PM, David G. Smith PE PLS dsm...@synergist-tech.com wrote: I had digitized some of those roads and features around Jacmel late last week from the DMA mapping, before the DigitalGlobe imagery or other good sources were available, with the full anticipation that they would eventually be updated via imagery. The bigger value to the DMA maps as I saw it is that they had some local cultural information such as POIs and place names, as well as basic road network. The DMA maps were scanned paper maps, rectified via NYPL MapWarper, no surprise that they might be off a tad here and there. I have since then been updating via DigitalGlobe, tho there are still some areas that need updating. So as far as concern, there shouldn't be much, just stick with the more current and update the older stuff - though be thoughtful when deleting things outright. I think there is still some value to knowing what potential road network there may be (even if it's tracks not well visible from the air- I've found some that are shown on the DMA maps but which are only barely discernible via tree crowns vaguely outlining the road underneath) and where there may be potential dwellings, et cetera (potentially obscured by tree cover) - I have been designating some of those more ambiguous ones (e.g. road network visible in DG imagery, but buildings not obvious) as residential area as there is probably a reason the roads are there. Obviously, if there is no tree cover, there is less ambiguity, the road may just be off in another direction, inaccurately placed on the DMA maps - worth looking around for it before deleting it outright - I've found that to be the case in a few instances as well. David G. Smith PE PLS Synergist Technology Group, Inc. 570.280.6763 From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Al Haraka Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:59 PM To: Brad Neuhauser Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment So it seems the consensus is to stick with DG, despite its problems. When something better comes along, we start using that. Am I following correctly? Some of the old stuff, especially the 1987 map, concerned me. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Brad Neuhauserbrad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: At least that was my assumption. Even if the DG imagery is off, it's more up-to-date than the 1987 map, so I moved the roads to align with the DG imagery. Much of the city (esp central city, north) has been realigned with the DG imagery. I also removed some streets traced from the map that were clearly wrong, and tagged some others with the fixme tag. Also, see the Street Names page for link to UN maps you can use for additional info. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Street_names Brad (neuhausr) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Karl
Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment
2010/1/20 David G. Smith PE PLS dsm...@synergist-tech.com I noticed some apparent shifting in DigitalGlobe imagery as well last night ... maybe some of the helpers there could send some gpx-tracks so aligning would be easier and more relyable? I know that they have other stuff to do, still while driving in the car keeping the gps recording is not too much detracting. If there is noone familiar with OSM-tracks / uploading, they still might send them via email and someone else could upload them? Maybe I'm too naive about the situation, excuse me if so. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Haiti CrisisMapping News
I just set this up: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/News We have various sources for information about news for the OSM crisismappers. There is OSM-Talk, the crisismappers list, twitter, IRC and the various wiki pages. But it's getting increasingly difficult to follow this high traffic medias and stay up to date with the important information. This wiki page will be used to list the important news like new WMS services/imagery available, new maps available or new map features need to be mapped. Please only list important news, describe them with a short note and link to the associated web pages. Jonas ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment
All of the telascience layers are available in one WMS. http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/geo/haiti/mapfiles/4326.maplayers=service=WMSrequest=GetCapabilitiesversion=1.0.0; Jeff On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/1/20 David G. Smith PE PLS dsm...@synergist-tech.com I noticed some apparent shifting in DigitalGlobe imagery as well last night ... maybe some of the helpers there could send some gpx-tracks so aligning would be easier and more relyable? I know that they have other stuff to do, still while driving in the car keeping the gps recording is not too much detracting. If there is noone familiar with OSM-tracks / uploading, they still might send them via email and someone else could upload them? Maybe I'm too naive about the situation, excuse me if so. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment
Hi folks! I got a gpx track from last week: http://plumeyer.org/haiti/PaP-track-Jochen-Plumeyer-2010-01-15.zip Hope that helps, Jochen On Mié 20 Ene 2010, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/1/20 David G. Smith PE PLS dsm...@synergist-tech.com I noticed some apparent shifting in DigitalGlobe imagery as well last night ... maybe some of the helpers there could send some gpx-tracks so aligning would be easier and more relyable? I know that they have other stuff to do, still while driving in the car keeping the gps recording is not too much detracting. If there is noone familiar with OSM-tracks / uploading, they still might send them via email and someone else could upload them? Maybe I'm too naive about the situation, excuse me if so. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment
Hi again, On Mié 20 Ene 2010, Jochen Plumeyer wrote: I got a gpx track from last week: http://plumeyer.org/haiti/PaP-track-Jochen-Plumeyer-2010-01-15.zip Just one additional info: I had to fix that day the GPS on the right car window, so the positioning error margin is asymmetic relative to the driving direction. Unfortunately the devices don't track the errors margins (at least my model). Cheers! Jochen ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Geotagged Flickr photos]
The sad thing about flickr is that I get only a fraction (read: two) of those geotagged pictures via the API. Check here at http://haiti.broadbox.de Seems the API is not working on live data. Claudius Am 19.01.2010 17:37, Jean-Guilhem Cailton: Message original Sujet : [CrisisMappers] Geotagged Flickr photos Date :Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:02:02 -0500 De : Lars Bromley lbrom...@aaas.org Répondre à : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Pour :crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Hi All, Perhaps of interest: http://www.flickr.com/map?fLat=18.5416fLon=-72.3135zl=5map_type=hyborder_by=recent About 5000 geotagged ground (and some aerial) photos which might be helpful to folks doing damage assessment etc. Apologies if this is a repeat or absurdly obvious. Lars -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CrisisMappers group. To post to this group, send email tocrisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tocrisismappers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment
At this point, I don't think we can get terribly deep in the weeds, other than to focus on reflecting basic infrastructure that would be useful to responders, e.g. road networks, communities, infrastructure, POIs and so on. Location may be a bit fuzzy but content is likely more important to support response. Agree. Around Jacmel, I try to map the road network, POIs (most of them based on MINUSTAH data), residential areas (because they might be good to know for delivering aid), and landuse, in order to clearly separate residential from non-residential areas. I avoid mapping individual buildings, becuase the available imagery is not detailled enough, unless the buildings are large and important landmarks (a large hotel close the port of Jacmel, the arsenal in east to the center). -- Karl Am 20.01.2010 14:37, schrieb David G. Smith PE PLS: I noticed some apparent shifting in DigitalGlobe imagery as well last night - also noticed that some of the newer DigitalGlobe imagery around Jacmel was not as clear as the prior imagery where I was working - hoping that iterations of archival imagery might become available at some point as well. In general, I think one of the issues we will continue to see is that I believe there is little rectification vs. actual ground control as one might have with conventional aerial orthophotos. At this point, I don't think we can get terribly deep in the weeds, other than to focus on reflecting basic infrastructure that would be useful to responders, e.g. road networks, communities, infrastructure, POIs and so on. Location may be a bit fuzzy but content is likely more important to support response. Jeff Harrison (CarbonProject) is also working on cascading WMS services which may help to aggregate various Haiti mapping and imagery assets via one URL for comparison and selecting between those available, as well as making the WMS services more easy to use in JOSM/Merkaartor/etc - and that may be very helpful as well. Just my $0.02... David G. Smith PE PLS Synergist Technology Group, Inc. 570.280.6763 -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Karl Guggisberg Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:47 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment Apparently, the digitalglobe imagery has been updated. I noticed when I was mapping around Jacmel. I don't know whether the imagery is *better* aligned but it its alignment is obviously different from the former image set (~ 50 m offset?). -- Karl Am 20.01.2010 05:20, schrieb David Fawcett: Is there confirmation that the referencing/rectification of the Digital Globe is good/best. I hate to keep moving features around to chase the latest imagery. David. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:27 PM, David G. Smith PE PLS dsm...@synergist-tech.com wrote: I had digitized some of those roads and features around Jacmel late last week from the DMA mapping, before the DigitalGlobe imagery or other good sources were available, with the full anticipation that they would eventually be updated via imagery. The bigger value to the DMA maps as I saw it is that they had some local cultural information such as POIs and place names, as well as basic road network. The DMA maps were scanned paper maps, rectified via NYPL MapWarper, no surprise that they might be off a tad here and there. I have since then been updating via DigitalGlobe, tho there are still some areas that need updating. So as far as concern, there shouldn't be much, just stick with the more current and update the older stuff - though be thoughtful when deleting things outright. I think there is still some value to knowing what potential road network there may be (even if it's tracks not well visible from the air- I've found some that are shown on the DMA maps but which are only barely discernible via tree crowns vaguely outlining the road underneath) and where there may be potential dwellings, et cetera (potentially obscured by tree cover) - I have been designating some of those more ambiguous ones (e.g. road network visible in DG imagery, but buildings not obvious) as residential area as there is probably a reason the roads are there. Obviously, if there is no tree cover, there is less ambiguity, the road may just be off in another direction, inaccurately placed on the DMA maps - worth looking around for it before deleting it outright - I've found that to be the case in a few instances as well. David G. Smith PE PLS Synergist Technology Group, Inc. 570.280.6763 From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Al Haraka Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:59 PM To: Brad Neuhauser Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road
[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] OSM on ERMA]
Message original Sujet : Re: [CrisisMappers] OSM on ERMA Date : Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:58:17 -0800 De :Dane Springmeyer dane.springme...@gmail.com Répondre à :crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Pour : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Références :9a123eb81001200721o5678d730g266171bf85285...@mail.gmail.com On Jan 20, 2010, at 7:21 AM, CJ Hendrix wrote: US NOAA has their ERMA tool up and running. It is basically a web map tool that combines data from a variety of sources. It's the best use I've seen so far of the OSM data. https://caribbean.erma.unh.edu/erma.html#x=-72.33991y=18.55395z=14layers=462+461 https://caribbean.erma.unh.edu/erma.html#x=-72.33991y=18.55395z=14layers=462+461 --cj Hi CJ, I'm one of the developers on this site. Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to be updating that OSM styling based on feedback from this group as I gain a better understanding of emerging OSM tags and symbolization. Dane -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CrisisMappers" group. To post to this group, send email to crisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to crisismappers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) 2010: Call for Proposals
~~ Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) 2010: Call for Proposals ~~
* where: London, UK
* when: Saturday 24th April, 2010
* www: http://www.okfn.org/okcon/
* last year: http://www.okfn.org/okcon/2009/
* cfp: http://www.okfn.org/okcon/cfp/ (deadline: Jan 31st 2010)
* hashtag: #okcon2010
## Introduction
OKCon, now in its fifth year, is the interdisciplinary conference that
brings together individuals from across the open knowledge spectrum for
a day of presentations and workshops.
Open knowledge promises significant social and economic benefits in a
wide range of areas from governance to science, culture to technology.
Opening up access to content and data can radically increase access and
reuse, improving transparency, fostering innovation and increasing
societal welfare.
This is a time of great change. In addition to high profile initiatives
such as Wikipedia, OpenStreetMap and the Human Genome Project, there is
enormous growth among open knowledge projects and communities at all
levels. Moreover, in the last year, many governments across the world
have begun opening up their data.
And it doesn't stop there. In academia, open access to both publications
and data has been gathering momentum, and similar calls to open up
learning materials have been heard in education. Furthermore this
gathering flood of open data and content is the creator and driver of
massive technological change. How can we make this data available, how
can we connect it together, how can we use it collaborate and share our
work?
Join us to discuss all of this and more!
## Topics
We welcome proposals on any aspect of creating, publishing or reusing
content or data that is open in accordance with
http://opendefinition.org. Topics include but are not limited to:
### Technology
* Semantic Web and Linked Data in relation to open knowledge
* Platforms, methods and tools for creating, sharing and curating open
knowledge
* Light-weight, adaptive interaction models
* Open, decentralized social network applications
* Open geospatial data
### Law, Society and Democracy
* Open Licensing, Legal Tools and the Public Domain
* Open government data and content (public sector information)
* Open knowledge and international development
* Opening up access to the law
### Culture and Education
* Open educational tools and resources
* Business models for open content
* Incentive and rewards open-knowledge contributors
* Open textbooks
* Public domain digitisation initiatives
### Science and Research
* Opening up scientific data
* Supporting scientific workflows with open knowledge models
* Open models for scientific innovation, funding and publication
('open-access')
* Tools for analysing and visualizing open data
* Open knowledge in the humanities
## Submission Details
* Submission deadline: January 31st 2010
* Notification of acceptance: March 1st
* Camera-ready papers due: March 31st
We are accepting three types of submissions:
1. Full papers of 5-10 pages describing novel strategies, tools,
services or best-practices related to open knowledge.
2. Extended talk abstracts of 2-4 pages focusing on novel ideas,
ongoing work and upcoming research challenges.
3. Proposals for short talks and demonstrations
OKCon will implement an open submission and reviewing process. To make a
submission visit:
* http://www.okfn.org/okcon/submit/
Depending on the assessment of the submissions by the programme
committee and external reviewers, submissions will be accepted either as
full, short or lightning/poster presentations.
Proceedings of OKCON will be published at http://ceur-ws.org. If you
want your submission to be included in the conference proceedings you
have to prepare a manuscript of your submission according to the LNCS
Style.
### Programme Committee
* Sören Auer, AKSW/Universität Leipzig
* Christopher Corbin, UK Advisory Board on Public Sector Information
* Adnan Hadzi and Andrea Rota, Goldsmiths College, University of London
* Claudia Müller-Birn, Carnegie Mellon University
* Peter Murray-Rust, University of Cambridge
* Rufus Pollock, Open Knowledge Foundation and Emmanuel College,
University of Cambridge
* Joseph Seddon, Wikimedia UK
* John Wilbanks, Science Commons
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[OSM-legal-talk] Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) 2010: Call for Proposals
~~ Open Knowledge Conference (OKCon) 2010: Call for Proposals ~~
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[OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] URGENT from friend - need helicopter drop (GPS coord's provided)]
I guess this is an indication that mapping the area around the epicenter (for 01-12) would be useful. If someone else agrees, please put it in the wiki/News. Jean-Guilhem Message original Sujet : [CrisisMappers] URGENT from friend - need helicopter drop (GPS coord's provided) Date : Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:49:34 -0500 De :Patrick Meier (CrisisMappers) patr...@crisismappers.net Répondre à :crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Pour : crisismappers crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Hi All: Can someone manage to get us a drop by helicopter for coordinate below for La Tournelle/Zoranje zone? epicenter: Latitude: 18.457 Longitude: -72.533; Latournelle se 18.425548,-72.526932 !! no food...they can walk to any drop drop zone Thanks, Patrick On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Patrick Meier (iRevolution) patr...@irevolution.net mailto:patr...@irevolution.net wrote: Patrick— Just wanted to take a moment. Your work has not only been a) inspiring, but also b) incredibly helpful to our OFDA teams and so many others in this relief effort. Incredibly grateful for all you do. Keep up the super work Team!!! -- The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy 2010 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CrisisMappers" group. To post to this group, send email to crisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to crisismappers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file]
Message original Sujet : Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file Date : Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:43:49 -0700 De :Jeff Martin jeffmar...@google.com Pour : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Copie à : jguil...@gmail.com, csad...@google.com, talk@openstreetmap.org Références :4b56b6320287000ab...@groupwise.aaas.org Here are the usage terms for the new aerial imagery released on Google Maps/Google Earth today: Use restricted to non-commercial use in or related to Haitian relief efforts. Generating maps for that purpose (only) is fine. Must provide a proper and distinct photo credit to Google. Please don't ask me to interpret this clause for you or apply it to specific use cases. (We've been warned against giving interpretive legal advice.) On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Lars Bromley lbrom...@aaas.org mailto:lbrom...@aaas.org wrote: This is the same stuff being made available over the last few days in various other formats that haven't had restrictions. I can speak particularly about the Jan 13 GeoEye-1 image and all DG imagery which has been communicated to me as being for 'unrestricted use' and for wide dissemination. I can help smooth over any problems with the two companies if needed. Lars Jean-Guilhem Cailton jguil...@gmail.com mailto:jguil...@gmail.com 01/20/10 7:29 AM Hi, Please forgive my naive question : is OSM allowed to use this imagery for tracing ? Thank you very much Jean-Guilhem Cailton Christiaan Adams a écrit : High Resolution (15cm) imagery is now available for Port-au-Prince (acquired 17 Jan). We have burned it into the basemap in Google Maps. For more info, check out this blog post (and be sure to look at the Google Maps link it contains): http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-imagery-of-port-au-prince.html We have created a KML version, which is now available through our master KML file: http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml We are also making most of this imagery available for download, for non-commercial use related to emergency relief. See this page for details: http://www.google.com/relief/haitiearthquake/imagery.html The footprints of the images available for download are also available as one of the selections in the KML file linked above. We hope to get this imagery into the Google Earth basemap in the morning, along with other recent Haiti imagery in Google Earth's historical imagery tool. Let me know if you have any questions or problems accessing these resources. Any feedback on how they are being used would also be appreciated, and would help us better focus our efforts in the future. Thanks and keep up the amazing work everyone! -Christiaan - Christiaan Adams Google Earth Outreach Google Crisis Response csad...@google.com mailto:csad...@google.com - On Jan 19, 3:23 pm, Christiaan Adams csad...@google.com mailto:csad...@google.com wrote: Hi all, We just updated our KML with better GeoEye data (broader coverage and ortho-rectified), as well as new DigitalGlobe and NOAA data. Refresh your network link, or re-load it from here:http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CrisisMappers group. To post to this group, send email to crisismapp...@googlegroups.com mailto:crisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to crisismappers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:crisismappers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. -- Jeffery Martin Business Product Manager | Google Crisis Response Team Lead ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file]
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 13:49, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Last I checked, the imagery had a non-commercial distribution limit on it (i.e. they don't want you to take their images and sell them to anyone at any point). All other uses were allowed (including derivative works and tracing) and in addition, we have explicit permission in writing from both Digital Globe and GeoEye. When we did buy the images for Gaza last year, we ended up discovering that aerial photography companies usually consider derivative works, just those works which include some of the actual pixels of the image they provide for a living. I.e. tracing over is not derivative work. -- -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Fwd: VL: We want to help you make a crisis Map of Skoder
Hello, Can we use the crisis maps for tracing? -- Forwarded message -- From: David Stevens tazarko...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [CrisisMappers] Fwd: VL: We want to help you make a crisis Map of Skoder To: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Cc: zki...@dlr.de, z...@dlr.de, Lóránt Czárán lorant.cza...@unoosa.org, chris.nicho...@unoosa.org, pekka.tiai...@cmcfinland.fi, tir...@unicef.org James Following up on my previous email to you I wanted to add some input: The Charter did produce maps and they are downloadable http://www.disasterscharter.org/web/charter/activation_details?p_r_p_1415474252_assetId=ACT-286 Perhaps UNDP, UNDAC and/or UNICEF could check first and confirm if this covers the full area of interest. ZKI produced the map and I am copying them on this email so you can follow-up with them. Several sensors were used Charter policy is to use the data to produce the value added products for the response phase only (we are most certainly in the early recovery) and not to share the raw data. We could ask if they would provide the data for free (no harm asking ... these space agencies are always pitching in and helping out). FORMOSAT-2 can be obtained for free. We can follow-up on this if needed. We could also follow-up on imagery that was tasked speculatively. We did at the time inform the satellite operators of the emergency (we do so for emergencies when the UN is involved, at the request of a UN-SPIDER National Focal Point, or at the request of one of our regional partners). Let us know how we can help. Best to use my UN email david.stev...@unoosa.org David Stevens UN-SPIDER 2010/1/20 jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com: I have gotten some response from UNDP: -- Forwarded message -- From: Tiainen Pekka PeO CMC pekka.tiai...@cmcfinland.fi Date: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:54 PM Subject: VL: We want to help you make a crisis Map of Skoder To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com Dear Mr. Dupont, Many thanks for your kind offer. The UNDP/UNDAC Albania is interested of the assistance what OSM is offering. At the moment we (Government and UNDAC) need two satellite maps: updated situation map of the flooded area and situation of 10.1. or 11.1.2010 when the flood situation was worst. Do you think that you can assist us with these needs. Best regards Pekka Tiainen UNDAC / Albania From: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com [mailto:jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 6:24 PM To: Gulden Turkoz-Cosslett; Norimasa Shimomura; tir...@unicef.org Subject: We want to help you make a crisis Map of Skoder Letter to UNDP and UNICEF in Albania : Dear sirs, you can read about openstreetmap helping the rescue efforts in haiti here: http://www.opengeodata.org/2010/01/14/haiti-openstreetmap-response/ I am working on skoder to help out and make a map of the affected area, see my call to help here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/h4ck3rm1k3/diary/9264 please provide any photos you have, satellite images etc, thanks, mike -- David STEVENS Vienna - Austria skype: tazarkount -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CrisisMappers group. To post to this group, send email to crisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to crisismappers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] URGENT from friend - need helicopter drop (GPS coord's provided)]
I just added those two points to OSM how should helicopter drop zones best be tagged? David G. Smith PE PLS Synergist Technology Group, Inc. 570.280.6763 From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Jean-Guilhem Cailton Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:34 PM To: OSM-talk; Jonas Krückel Subject: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] URGENT from friend - need helicopter drop (GPS coord's provided)] I guess this is an indication that mapping the area around the epicenter (for 01-12) would be useful. If someone else agrees, please put it in the wiki/News. Jean-Guilhem Message original Sujet : [CrisisMappers] URGENT from friend - need helicopter drop (GPS coord's provided) Date : Wed, 20 Jan 2010 11:49:34 -0500 De : Patrick Meier (CrisisMappers) mailto:patr...@crisismappers.net patr...@crisismappers.net Répondre à : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Pour : crisismappers mailto:crisismapp...@googlegroups.com crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Hi All: Can someone manage to get us a drop by helicopter for coordinate below for La Tournelle/Zoranje zone? epicenter: Latitude: 18.457 Longitude: -72.533; Latournelle se 18.425548,-72.526932 !! no food...they can walk to any drop drop zone Thanks, Patrick On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Patrick Meier (iRevolution) patr...@irevolution.net wrote: Patrick Just wanted to take a moment. Your work has not only been a) inspiring, but also b) incredibly helpful to our OFDA teams and so many others in this relief effort. Incredibly grateful for all you do. Keep up the super work Team!!! -- The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy 2010 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] URGENT from friend - need helicopter drop (GPS coord's provided)]
El Miércoles, 20 de Enero de 2010, David G. Smith PE PLS escribió: I just added those two points to OSM how should helicopter drop zones best be tagged? Put a node tagged with aeroway=helipad, temporary=yes. It will do until we straight out the disaster-specific tags. -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es http://ivan.sanchezortega.es MSN:i_eat_s_p_a_m_for_breakf...@hotmail.com Jabber:ivansanc...@jabber.org ; ivansanc...@kdetalk.net IRC: ivansanchez @ OFTC freenode signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Haïti earthquake crisis response ] Please refresh tagwat ch for North Amercia
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 13:12, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I guess that the rendering of emergency and humanitarian tags will be discussed later, once this crisis will have settled down. Maybe a patch to an existing renderer will be developped and kept ready for such use. Another alternative is not using OSM for emergency situations at all - instead use OSM technology on a system that is completely empty at first and then gets populated with all the imports etc.; later, after the crisis is over, copy selected stuff over into OSM proper. That would also neatly solve the license issue; it is inconceivable that the whole humanitarian community should subject themselves to OSM's license just because they're using OSM technology. With Haiti, the main reason we have lots of different datasets being created is that few people knew of OSM, but even if everyone was well informed, many would have frowned at stuffing all their data into a system where they can only retrieve it encumbered by a share-alike license. With a separate, PD licensed system (such as Mikel has chosen for the Gaza and recently Kibera), that problem would neatly go away. I tend to completely agree with Frederik here. Having a selfstanding system able to do the whole openstreetmap toolchain, with a different license (PD). How difficult would it be to create a linux distribution able to boot and provide access to external mappers? -- -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti, Requests from Responders
Jonas, The change you suggest makes sense Mikel == Mikel Maron == http://mapkibera.org/ +254 (0) 724899738 mi...@osmfoundation.org From: Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de To: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 1:22:40 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti, Requests from Responders This should probably be merged with http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/MappingCoordination#What_needs_to_be_mapped.3F I prefer having this information in short at the top of the page, additional info can be at the bottom.. Jonas Am 20.01.2010 um 11:33 schrieb Mikel Maron: Many general mapping requests coming in from the field and other responding agencies. I've created a section on the wiki to collect these requests, and focus efforts to fulfill them. Once completed, we notify the requester that OSM has updated data. Yes, basically an ad-hoc ticketing system, working with the tools we have at hand. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/MappingCoordination#Requests_from_Responders It would be great for those of us on the CrisisMappers list particularly to look for such requests, respond that we're working on it, add it to the wiki, and mobilize mappers to work on the request. Thanks Mikel == Mikel Maron == http://mapkibera.org/ +254 (0) 724899738 mi...@osmfoundation.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] US Special Forces to build new runway outside PaP]
With Haitians' comments below the linked article... Message original Sujet : [CrisisMappers] US Special Forces to build new runway outside PaP Date : Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:50:00 -0500 De :Patrick Meier (CrisisMappers) patr...@crisismappers.net Répondre à :crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Pour : crisismappers crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Copie à : Caroline Andresen andresen.carol...@gmail.com From Fletcher Situation Room - Radio Team --- Patrick, I just heard on a Haitian radio station that the US military is building an additional runway to deal with the inundation of humanitarian aid flights at the port au prince airport, which cannot handle all the traffic they were getting. The piste (landing strip or runway in english) should be open in the next 24 hours. It should be close to port au prince -- I can't remember if it was 20 km from PaP or 20 mins from PaP. I heard it on Signal FM 90.5 at around 20:30 tonight. And here is the french print news source corroborating the Haitian radio -- it will be in Jacmel. Built by US special forces. Will be used first to support Canadian operations south east of the city. http://www.lenouvelliste.com/article.php?PubID=1ArticleID=77920PubDate=2010-01-19 http://www.lenouvelliste.com/article.php?PubID=1ArticleID=77920PubDate=2010-01-19 I hope this information is helpful and correct. Caroline -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CrisisMappers" group. To post to this group, send email to crisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to crisismappers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Need Positions of Cemeteries and Paths to Cemeteries]
There are cemeteries in the haiti-tlm-50 map WMS layer (see wiki). Cimetière in French, apparently sometimes abbreviated as Cim. Jean-Guilhem Message original Sujet : Re: [CrisisMappers] Need Positions of Cemeteries and Paths to Cemeteries Date : Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:17:55 -0500 De :jerri husch jerrihu...@gmail.com Répondre à :crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Pour : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Copie à : CrisisCommons crisiscomm...@gmail.com Références :5c032dd61001141754y7cf3fea0m26463cf04e986...@mail.gmail.com Dear Folks, This is an ICRC update on the issue of disposing of the bodiesit is an official document---may be of interest as people are trying to make decisions about what are the priority issuesalso may affect how the bodies are identified. Please pass on to the key people in your network so that it may be disseminated widely on the ground... http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/health-bodies-140110 best, Jer On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Luke Beckman lukembeck...@gmail.com mailto:lukembeck...@gmail.com wrote: Request in from field guys on the ground Eric, Need to know where cemeteries are and paths to get there. Can you map these? Bodies have to go asap and in cultural context. Arch Bishop is dead, voudoo is alive and well and the grief reactions will create unrest (more that is) as bodies decompose. Have asked/begged DoD to bring in mortuary and get to religious leaders to help counsel grief reaction. Families are sleeping next to dead bodies as there is no way to get them out of the city to bury. L Is anybody tracking this right now or can we start this process on Ushahidi. We may have to do this as SMS comes up, or even better...if we could get Walking Papers in now. -Luke -- International Network of Crisis Mappers http://www.CrisisMappers.net -- Jerri Ann Husch, PhD 2Collaborate Consulting New York, Geneva -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CrisisMappers" group. To post to this group, send email to crisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to crisismappers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] US Special Forces to build new runway outside PaP]
Op 21-01-10 04:13, Jean-Guilhem Cailton schreef: With Haitians' comments below the linked article... Great opportunity to make a flight map from this too then, probably good to add beacons, approach and queue. Stefan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] [Fwd: [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: Fw: Adding missing coordinate to the health facility list from PAHO]]
Sending again with spreadsheet in .ods instead of .xls to pass (hopefully) under the 40k limit for the list. Anybody who is fluent with wiki, feel free to put it there. Message original Sujet : [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: Fw: Adding missing coordinate to the health facility list from PAHO] Date : Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:08:27 +0100 De :Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com Pour : OSM-talk talk@openstreetmap.org Hi, Awaiting an answer to know whether it is ok to disclose publicly a shared spreadsheet on CrisisMapper, I am forwarding a copy of the spreadsheet to OSM-talk, for help in locating these Hospitals. (I am not aware of a license problem in looking up addresses in G. (yet ?), in case it could be useful. Please let me know if I am being overly naive.) I think its best to enter the hospitals in OSM as you find them. (And coordinate on IRC to avoid duplicate work.) I used an address=* tag to store the spreadsheet's addresses in OSM. Use the spreadsheet file name as source:address (i just made this up, hope it's ok). I hope there will be a good solution to collect them in the shared spreadsheet later. Thanks, Jean-Guilhem Message original Sujet : Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: Fw: Adding missing coordinate to the health facility list from PAHO Date : Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:31:31 +0100 De :Jean-Guilhem Cailton jguil...@gmail.com Pour : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Copie à : 'Jean-Guilhem Cailton' j...@arkemie.com Références : ofefabefc5.6e0ad8d9-on052576b1.007e606e-052576b1.007f3...@un.org 6c2c709c-dc7c-4b0f-82ff-470360af0...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com 9279d832-a889-471b-8b32-430841481...@14g2000yqp.googlegroups.com Added Hopital Sainte-Croix / Léogane's address in OSM, as well as Hospital Bon Samaritain / Limbé. Added coordinates of Hopital Sacré Coeur / Milot from OSM into the spreadsheet. Questions : - Hasn't it been said somewhere in this group that standard coordinates order should be lat / lon ? (apologies if I am wrong) (It is lon / lat in the spreadsheet https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ArlMTYEgfvwsdERtTkxRUVVqRXdpVzlDSlFnb3F1UHchl=en) - (I have no experience in crisis management) : should this spreadsheet been shared on the public mailing list OSM-talk ? (pros that I can think of : more pairs of eyes, possibly of Haitians that could help localization, cons that I can think of : security) - How are updates to this spreadsheet going to be notified, eg for inclusion in OSM ? Thank you, Jean-Guilhem Cailton PS : Oh, reading the mails below again, I see that a possible source for the coordinates is mentioned. Still sending this mail as the questions may have a more general interest. And going to export the spreadsheet to OSM-talk for help in looking up coordinates. hti_hltfacp_paho-WORK.ods Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] [Fwd: RE: [CrisisMappers] Re: Fw: Adding missing coordinate to the health facility list from PAHO]
Information Management Officer United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) Colombia Cra. 10 No. 97A - 13 Of. 401 Bogota, Colombia Tel: (057) 1 6221100 ext. 108 Mobile: (057) 310 3156788 Fax: (057) 1 6221232 skype: villavechttp://www.colombiassh.org http://www.colombiassh.org/ The mission of the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) is to mobilize and coordinate effective and principled humanitarian action in partnership with national and international actors. La misión de la Oficina de las Naciones Unidas para la Coordinación de Asuntos Humanitarios (OCHA) es movilizar y coordinar una respuesta humanitaria efectiva en el marco de los principios humanitarios, en colaboración con actores nacionales e internacionales. - Forwarded by Jeffrey Villaveces/OCHA/FD on 20/01/2010 06:00 p.m. - Akiko Harayama/OCHA/NY 20/01/2010 03:48 p.m. To Jeffrey Villaveces/OCHA/f...@ocha cc gdice...@immap.org, Luis Hernando Aguilar/OCHA/f...@ocha, jquint...@unicef.org, hai.clustersa...@paho.org Subject Adding missing coordinate to the health facility list from PAHO Hi Jeffrey, I would like to use the offer from your team to help us out. We receive the list of health facility from PAHO, however there are 105 health facility without XY location. You can find most of them on google earth, unfortunately, I do not have time to go through (today, I located the hospital where PAHO did the rapid assessment on google earth). The health cluster is also working to get those coordinate, but if you team have time to check on google earth and fill the information on the attached table, it would be amazing. The XY coordinate need to be in xx.x format, not degree,min,sec as it is by default on google. Thank you very much for your support. Akiko hti_hltfacp_paho-WORK.xls 75KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CrisisMappers group. To post to this group, send email to crisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to crisismappers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:crisismappers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4791 (20100120) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CrisisMappers group. To post to this group, send email to crisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to crisismappers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. inline: winmail.dat___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Haïti earthquake crisis response ] Please refresh tagwat ch for North Amercia
I tend to completely agree with Frederik here. Having a selfstanding system able to do the whole openstreetmap toolchain, with a different license (PD). You would need something a bit like Google put on their 15cm imagery to say that Relief Agencies could use the OSM data for non-commercial relief purposes only (*or* switch the OSM licence to PD from cc-by-sa/odbl), perhaps with some other clause(s) about any additions to our data would be welcome. The toolchain is already available, but who wants to start with an empty database and start by adding their own coastlines from scratch? Ed ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] world bank aerial plane run \o/
sg...@worldbank.org to crisismappers, me show details 2:58 AM (4 hours ago) Of course OSM could use it - we would encourage it! OAM should also grab a copy. We are releasing all the data as Public Domain. We will let you know as soon as we have data to share. Regards, Stuart Stuart P. D. Gill --- Disaster Risk Management Sustainable development Latin America Caribbean The World Bank 1818 H St NW Washington DC +1 202-4580859 sg...@worldbank.org Inactive hide details for Amaury Jacquot ---01/20/2010 03:20:41 PM---On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM, sg...@worldbank.org wAmaury Jacquot ---01/20/2010 03:20:41 PM---On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM, sg...@worldbank.org wrote: a) Geo‐rectified (easily ingested From: Amaury Jacquot amaury.jacq...@gmail.com To: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com Date: 01/20/2010 03:20 PM Subject: Re: [CrisisMappers] World Bank, GFDRR, RIT, ImageCAT Remote Sensing Mission to Haiti ‐ Status Report ‐ 19 January 2010 Sent by: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com - Hide quoted text - On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM, sg...@worldbank.org wrote: a) Geo‐rectified (easily ingested in map‐based software) and ortho‐ rectified (corrected for relief impacts) imagery + LiDAR digital elevation model (topography) and top‐surface model (building/vegetation heights) ‐ all in raster/grid formats for dissemination through Yahoo! and Google Earth. would openstreetmap be authorized to use these too ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CrisisMappers group. To post to this group, send email to crisismapp...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to crisismappers +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/crisismappers?hl=en. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Veldtocht halte 1: 13 februari
Het is ook niet per se de bedoeling dat we iedere keer dezelfde gezichten zien - al ben je natuurlijk steeds welkom. Een keer per maand is inderdaad erg ambitieus; het moet wel elke keer georganiseerd worden: locatie, evt. activiteiten, sprekers, pers... Daarom ook discussie en animo peilen. Martijn martijn van exel http://schaaltreinen.nl/ twitter / skype: mvexel flickr: rhodes 2010/1/19 F. Heinen f.heinen...@gmail.com: Ik vindt het een mooie idee maar is elke maand niet wat veel? Althans dan haak ik minimaal 50% af (al dan niet om de afstand of tijd). Ik zou zeker zeggen doen en ik ben van de partij. Suggestie: frequentie elke 2 maand? Groet, Frank Op 19 januari 2010 12:47 schreef Martijn van Exel mve...@gmail.com het volgende: Ha allemaal, Tijdens de afgelopen nieuwjaarsborrel ontstond het idee voor een serie landelijke OpenStreetMap-bijeenkomsten. Een soort 'OSM komt naar je toe dit jaar' om wat meer mensen vaker bij elkaar te brengen, en ook meer nieuwe mensen met OSM kennis te laten maken. Het leukste zou zijn als we in 12 maanden alle provincies zouden kunnen aandoen. De nieuwjaarsborrel was dan Noord-Hollands beurt. Het idee is momenteel nog helemaal open. Mappen, zuipen, eten, toespraken of presentaties, hackers camp, kan allemaal. Ook een mooie gelegenheid voor PR. De eerste halte van de OSM Veldtocht willen we (ik had het er net met Henk over) op 13 februari doen. Wie? Waar? Wat? Laat je horen! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Netherlands/Veldtocht_2010 martijn van exel http://schaaltreinen.nl/ twitter / skype: mvexel flickr: rhodes ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM Veldtocht halte 1: 13 februari
En daarnaast is het goed om een goede wisseling te hebben door het land heen. De ene keer in het noorden, de volgende keer in het zuiden, etc. Bedoeling is om juist ook de mensen te triggeren die niet zo vaak in Amsterdam of andere grote steden van de randstad komen. Gr, Henk Op 20 januari 2010 11:55 schreef Martijn van Exel mve...@gmail.com het volgende: Het is ook niet per se de bedoeling dat we iedere keer dezelfde gezichten zien - al ben je natuurlijk steeds welkom. Een keer per maand is inderdaad erg ambitieus; het moet wel elke keer georganiseerd worden: locatie, evt. activiteiten, sprekers, pers... Daarom ook discussie en animo peilen. Martijn martijn van exel http://schaaltreinen.nl/ twitter / skype: mvexel flickr: rhodes 2010/1/19 F. Heinen f.heinen...@gmail.com: Ik vindt het een mooie idee maar is elke maand niet wat veel? Althans dan haak ik minimaal 50% af (al dan niet om de afstand of tijd). Ik zou zeker zeggen doen en ik ben van de partij. Suggestie: frequentie elke 2 maand? Groet, Frank Op 19 januari 2010 12:47 schreef Martijn van Exel mve...@gmail.com het volgende: Ha allemaal, Tijdens de afgelopen nieuwjaarsborrel ontstond het idee voor een serie landelijke OpenStreetMap-bijeenkomsten. Een soort 'OSM komt naar je toe dit jaar' om wat meer mensen vaker bij elkaar te brengen, en ook meer nieuwe mensen met OSM kennis te laten maken. Het leukste zou zijn als we in 12 maanden alle provincies zouden kunnen aandoen. De nieuwjaarsborrel was dan Noord-Hollands beurt. Het idee is momenteel nog helemaal open. Mappen, zuipen, eten, toespraken of presentaties, hackers camp, kan allemaal. Ook een mooie gelegenheid voor PR. De eerste halte van de OSM Veldtocht willen we (ik had het er net met Henk over) op 13 februari doen. Wie? Waar? Wat? Laat je horen! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Netherlands/Veldtocht_2010 martijn van exel http://schaaltreinen.nl/ twitter / skype: mvexel flickr: rhodes ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-nl
[talk-au] Nearmap Sydney area imagery
It looks like Nearmap have started processing imagery from beyond just the Sydney area down towards Wollongong... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#Current_coverage ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Nearmap Sydney area imagery
2010/1/20 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: It looks like Nearmap have started processing imagery from beyond just the Sydney area down towards Wollongong... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NearMap_PhotoMaps#Current_coverage More imagery seems to be being processed round Geelong area too... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] JOSM on handheld device
Ive tried a few packages such as opencitymap and OSM-tracker, but they all seem to have pre-requesites that arent identified on the download sites. I figure I cant be the only person who wants to edit OSM from my GPS device, so Im hoping someone might have a few ideas for apps worth a play with, before I give up and look at writing my own. I use osm2go on a nokia n810: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/osm2go It is written in C, and it might be a decent starting point. I haven't poked the code at all to see how portable it is, but it is actively developed and very usable. Andy David ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Has anyone got a better suggestion for showing a boat ramp than extending a highway=service out into the water? The leisure=slipway tag is meant to apply to nodes, not ways. I would suggest tagging the way leisure=slipway. If you need to break the current specification to do so, then make a note on the wiki page. Tagging it highway=service seems wrong. Service roads do not go underwater... The tagging system is supposed to be flexible and updated to reflect changing requirements, after all. Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I would suggest tagging the way leisure=slipway. If you need to break the current specification to do so, then make a note on the wiki page. Yeah, how strange that a slipWAY can supposedly only apply to a NODE. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 10:35 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Has anyone got a better suggestion for showing a boat ramp than extending a highway=service out into the water? The leisure=slipway tag is meant to apply to nodes, not ways. I would suggest tagging the way leisure=slipway. If you need to break the current specification to do so, then make a note on the wiki page. Tagging it highway=service seems wrong. Service roads do not go underwater. So, where should it terminate, before the water? Or at a junction with the polygon? Neither of these choices is really suitable, so leading a way into the water seems the best option to me. Also, from the wiki for 'service': Generally for access to a building, motorway service station, beach, campsite, industrial estate, business park, etc.. This doesnt sound wrong to me, if a service road can lead to a beach or campsite, why not to a boatramp? The tagging system is supposed to be flexible and updated to reflect changing requirements, after all. I thought the tagging system was meant to be consistent, before being flexible. If everyone tags boatramps in their own 'flexible' way, how is any renderer supposed to know what to do, for every possible variant? I believe it should be discussed in here, and the general consensus should be applied when tagging, rather than everyone going off with their own idea. David ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp
Steve Bennett wrote: I would suggest tagging the way leisure=slipway. If you need to break the current specification to do so, then make a note on the wiki page. Tagging it highway=service seems wrong. Service roads do not go underwater... The tagging system is supposed to be flexible and updated to reflect changing requirements, after all. That was my initial thinking. When I tagged it like that, it didn't render of course. And I thought it important for a boat ramp to show up. If only highway=ford rendered. But that's not right for a boat ramp either. Do you mean make a note on the Australian Tagging Guidelines and tag the way as leisure=slipway? As a traffic way, it really should have a highway=* tag, shouldn't it? John H ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp
2010/1/21 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au: Also, from the wiki for 'service': Generally for access to a building, motorway service station, beach, campsite, industrial estate, business park, etc.. This doesnt sound wrong to me, if a service road can lead to a beach or campsite, why not to a boatramp? A service road can lead to a boat ramp. But the boat ramp itself is not a point, it's a line. It's usually pretty clear where the ramp starts - where it ends is usually harder to find unless you go wading. Don't worry if it doesn't currently render. Record it in the database, and then we can hassle the renderers to support it later. SLH ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Blue?
Yes, the background throughout most of metro Perth is blue. At higher zoom levels any tiles that don't have blue background will become blue when submitted for rendering (by requesting the tile with /dirty added to the URL). From a brief look the coastline appears to be intact and I can't see any way located on the boundary of the blue background which might be the cause. Arie. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Andrew Gregory and...@scss.com.au wrote: Just wondering if others are seeing blue too? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.754lon=115.906zoom=11layers=B000FTF What I'm seeing is blue, just like the ocean, from just south of Yanchep, down to just south of Rockingham, east just past Kalamunda. Maybe it's global warming raising the sea level? It's also apparent at most zoom levels when zooming in. I'd have a go at fixing it, but I'm not sure where to start? -- Andrew Gregory mailto:and...@scss.com.au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp
2010/1/21 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com: A service road can lead to a boat ramp. But the boat ramp itself is not a point, it's a line. It's usually pretty clear where the ramp starts - where it ends is usually harder to find unless you go wading. Assuming you don't go head over tail on the ramp and do an injury first :) Don't worry if it doesn't currently render. Record it in the database, and then we can hassle the renderers to support it later. The more popular a tag is the more likely it will be to render as well. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp
Stephen Hope wrote: A service road can lead to a boat ramp. But the boat ramp itself is not a point, it's a line. It's usually pretty clear where the ramp starts - where it ends is usually harder to find unless you go wading. Don't worry if it doesn't currently render. Record it in the database, and then we can hassle the renderers to support it later. How about tagging boat ramps as: highway=service service=boat_ramp I think a slipway is different from a boat ramp. I know a slipway as a track (perhaps with rollers) for launching boats and for winching them ashore for repairs. John H ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 13:51 +1000, Stephen Hope wrote: 2010/1/21 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au: Also, from the wiki for 'service': Generally for access to a building, motorway service station, beach, campsite, industrial estate, business park, etc.. This doesnt sound wrong to me, if a service road can lead to a beach or campsite, why not to a boatramp? A service road can lead to a boat ramp. But the boat ramp itself is not a point, it's a line. It's usually pretty clear where the ramp starts - where it ends is usually harder to find unless you go wading. Don't worry if it doesn't currently render. Record it in the database, and then we can hassle the renderers to support it later. It does currently render in osmarender. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-35.64913lon=150.14393zoom=17layers=0B00FTF is a couple of boat ramps Ive added near Batemans Bay, NSW as rendered by osmarender. David ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 16:53 +1100, John Henderson wrote: How about tagging boat ramps as: highway=service service=boat_ramp I think a slipway is different from a boat ramp. I know a slipway as a track (perhaps with rollers) for launching boats and for winching them ashore for repairs. I think slipway is the British term. From the leisure=slipway wiki page: A slipway is a ramp into the water for launching a boat. In Australia they are referred to as boat ramps. In the US they are often referred to as boat landings as well as boat ramps. They are typically simply a concrete ramp at the end of an access road or track into the water. The boat owner backs a vehicle with a boat trailer down the ramp until the trailer is in the water and floats the boat off. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[Talk-de] TMC Rastplatz an Autobahn (was: TMC-Punkt in Abwegen)
Moin, Marcus Wolschon schrieb: 2010/1/20 André Riedel Wenn jedoch der Rastplatz mit einer TMC-Meldung gesperrt werden sollte, hätte das jedoch falsche Auswirkungen für das Routing auf der A... Hier möchte ich gerne mal einhaken: Bisher habe ich die Punkte eines Segmentes immer auf die Strecke gesetzt. Aber gehört solch ein TMC-Punkt nicht eigentlich auf den Rastplatz statt auf die Richtungsfahrbahn? Wenn nur der Rastplatz punktförmig gesperrt werden soll, darf dadurch ja eigentlich nicht die gesamte Autobahn gesperrt werden. Wenn ein Streckenabschnitt vom / bis zum Rastplatz gesperrt wird, würde das auch mit dem Punkt auf dem Rastplatz greifen. Gruß Georg ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Crisismapping Haiti, OSM und die Medien
OpenStreetMap-Projekt als Katastrophenhelfer Frisch auf heise online: http://goo.gl/0Npm Von: Lothar Emmerichl.emmer...@t-online.de An: gmane.comp.gis.openstreetmap.region.de, mich...@buegehome.de, talk-de@openstreetmap.org Datum: 18.01.2010 21:48 Betreff: Re: Crisismapping Haiti, OSM und die MedienHallo Michael,das Thema Haiti ist aktuell. Richtig so.Wenn ich Dich richtig verstanden habe, suchst Du auch Medienartikel zu OSM. Kann Dir 2 Zeitungsartikel zur Verfügung stellen. Ist das in Deinem Sinne?GrußLothar___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wie rendert man Relationen mit or/p?
Christian Slotwinsky schrieb: Leider ist es mir bislang nicht gelungen Relationen zu rendern obwohl ich die entsprechenden Optionen (showRelationRoute) in der XML-Datei aktiviert bzw. die Kommentare entfernt habe. Ist das ein Sonderfall der or/p Version oder kann das Original Osmarender auch keine Relationen rendern ? Mit den mapfeatures der Zoomstufe 17 kann osmarender die Linien gesondert darstellen. Wie du schon schreibst, mit showrelationroute=yes und die Kommentare entfernen. Den ref-tag an der Linie anbringen ist aber in der xsl von osmarender so nicht vorgesehen (wohl aber bei ref-tags der Wege). Dazu müsste das ref-tag der Relation erst mal auf alle Wege verteilt werden, und mehrfache refs für einen Weg sinnvoll aneinandergehangen werden. Dazu habe ich in der xsl keinen Eintrag gefunden. In or/p wird es dann vermutlich auch nicht laufen. Natürlich kann man die z17 auch für größere Gebiete verwenden, irgendwann ist aber der Arbeitsspeicher voll. Wie geht Ihr in solch einem Fall vor? Probier deine xml mal mit dem richtigen osmarender, vielleicht ist ja doch noch ein anderer bug drin. Eventuell auch mal die Farben und Linienbreiten verändern. Gruß, André Joost ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] TMC Rastplatz an Autobahn (was: TMC-Punkt in Abwegen)
2010/1/20 Georg Feddern ne...@bavarianmallet.de: Hier möchte ich gerne mal einhaken: Bisher habe ich die Punkte eines Segmentes immer auf die Strecke gesetzt. Aber gehört solch ein TMC-Punkt nicht eigentlich auf den Rastplatz statt auf die Richtungsfahrbahn? Er gehört auf die Strecke, sonst kann ein Stau von A bis 3 Schritte zurück nicht ausgewertet werden. Wenn nur der Rastplatz punktförmig gesperrt werden soll, darf dadurch ja eigentlich nicht die gesamte Autobahn gesperrt werden. Ich denke nicht dass gesperrte Rastplätze überhaupt übermittelt werden. Das ist einfach nur eine Marke Unfall BEI Rastplatz XYZ. Ein Rastplatz ist einfach nicht wichtig genug im Vergleich zur Aut Wenn ein Streckenabschnitt vom / bis zum Rastplatz gesperrt wird, würde das auch mit dem Punkt auf dem Rastplatz greifen. Gruß Georg ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Crisismapping Haiti, OSM und die Medien
Zitat Lothar Emmerich: Hallo Michael, das Thema Haiti ist aktuell. Richtig so. Wenn ich Dich richtig verstanden habe, suchst Du auch Medienartikel zu OSM. Kann Dir 2 Zeitungsartikel zur Verfügung stellen. Ist das in Deinem Sinne? Nur her damit! ;-) Aktuell bin ich aber auf der Suche nach Material zum Thema OSM-Haiti. Nicht nur Zeitungsberichte, sondern auch Informationen von Leuten, die vor Ort waren, sind oder sein werden und die eventuell OSM-Sachen nutzen oder brauchen. -- Michael ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] URGENT!! Anfrage ZDF
Gerade hat mich Ferdinand Utner vom ZDF angerufen. Er sucht nach Personen, die in Haiti mappen. Es soll als Teil eines Berichtes gezeigt werden, wie aus den Luftbildern Daten entstehen. Ort ist egal, Termin am besten gestern. Ich hab jetzt erst mal auf die Jungs von der Uni Heidelberg verwiesen, es waere aber trotzdem gut, wenn sich noch zusaetzlich jemand bereit erklaeren koennte, sich mal ueber die Schulter schauen zu lassen. Freiwillige vor, es ist eilig. Kontaktdaten gibts bei mir. -- Michael ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Präsentation
Lothar Emmerich wrote: Hallöchen, hier endlich die versprochene Präsentation Danke, dass Du Dir die Muehe gemacht hast, allerdings sieht das Ergebnis bei mir so aus wie unter: http://yfrog.com/1aosmscreenj zu sehen. Daher als Praesentation eher ungeeignet. ***hy ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] TMC Rastplatz an Autobahn
Marcus Wolschon schrieb: 2010/1/20 Georg Feddern ne...@bavarianmallet.de: Hier möchte ich gerne mal einhaken: Bisher habe ich die Punkte eines Segmentes immer auf die Strecke gesetzt. Aber gehört solch ein TMC-Punkt nicht eigentlich auf den Rastplatz statt auf die Richtungsfahrbahn? Er gehört auf die Strecke, sonst kann ein Stau von A bis 3 Schritte zurück nicht ausgewertet werden. Das sehe ich anders, dann ist ja auch immer der Streckenabschnitt vor und/oder nach dem Rast-/Parkplatz betroffen, ob die Staulinie nun über den Rast-/Parkplatz oder über die Strecke dran vorbei geführt wird, ist dann m. E. nicht wesentlich. Wenn nur der Rastplatz punktförmig gesperrt werden soll, darf dadurch ja eigentlich nicht die gesamte Autobahn gesperrt werden. Ich denke nicht dass gesperrte Rastplätze überhaupt übermittelt werden. Das ist einfach nur eine Marke Unfall BEI Rastplatz XYZ. Ein Rastplatz ist einfach nicht wichtig genug im Vergleich zur Aut Ich erinnere mich zumindest an genügend Verkehrsfunkmeldungen für LKW, das Parkplätze überfüllt sind. Ich weiß aber eben auch nicht, ob dies als TMC-Ereignis übermittelt wird, wenn nicht, ok. Wenn doch, wäre es nur blöd, wenn wegen dieser Punkt-Sperrung der vorbeifließende Verkehr (und seien es nur LKWs) dann über eine Umleitung geschickt würde. Vorerst bleibe ich dann bei der bisherigen Praxis. Gruß Georg ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap
Am Mittwoch 20 Januar 2010 00:45:27 schrieb Stephan Wolff: Am 19.01.2010 17:52, schrieb Alexander Matheisen: Am Dienstag 19 Januar 2010 14:00:30 schrieb Jörk: zunächst 'mal : tolle Sache! Dem Lob schließe ich mich an. Kann es sinnvoll sein, daß wir uns grob einigen, was überhaupt eingetragen wird? Wikipedia Vereine? welche? Schulen? Gaststätten? Wo soll(te) die Grenze sein? Im Grunde muss dies jeder Mapper für sich entscheiden. Ich halte es für sinnvoll, solche Fragen frühzeitig zu klären. Bislang haben wir (fast) nur altruistische Mapper, die uneigennützig Daten für OSM erfassen. Sobald die Nutzung und die Medienpräsenz von OSM zunimmt, werden auch wirtschaftliche Interessen dazukommen. Man betrachte als Beispiele den A.A.A.A.A.A. Schlüsseldienst in den Gelben Seiten, Webadressen wie www.billige-fluege-nach-palma.de oder die diversen Googleoptimierer. Wenn wir einmal 2000 Einträge eines Zigarettenautomatenbetreibers mit Weblink in der Datenbank und in der Karte haben oder Werbenamen als name=Reifen Meier - Der Reifenhändler mit der größten Auswahl in der Stadt auftauchen, wird es schwer, diese loszuwerden. Jetzt können wir noch leicht Regeln aufstellen. Grundsätzlich kann man aber sagen, dass Privatpersonen nicht in diese Karte gehören. Das ist sicherlich unstrittig, aber auch Verkaufsautomaten, Firmen ohne Immobilie und ohne Ladengeschäft (Briefkastenfirmen, Büros, Agenturen, etc.) und Vereine ohne eigene Räume möchte ich nicht auf der Karte haben. Viele Grüße Stephan Ich würde vorschlagen, dass wir diese Diskussion besser in einen eigenen Thread ausgliedern, denn das hat nicht mehr viel mit der OpenLinkMap zu tun. Rurseekatze ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Kennzeichnung von (Nicht)Raucherkneipen/Hotels/Restaurants
Hallo, im deutschsprachigen Ableger des OSM-Forums kam die Frage nach einem Tag auf, um Restaurants/Kneipen in den geraucht werden darf und solche in denen nicht geraucht werden darf zu kennzeichnen [1]. Ich habe mal angefangen und ein Proposal für ein Tag smoking = no / yes / separated geschrieben [2]. Mit den drei Werten yes / no / separated sollten sich eigentlich alle relevanten Situationen abbilden lassen. Grüße Telegnom [1] http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=55394 [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] TMC Rastplatz an Autobahn
2010/1/20 Georg Feddern ne...@bavarianmallet.de: Ich erinnere mich zumindest an genügend Verkehrsfunkmeldungen für LKW, das Parkplätze überfüllt sind. Ich weiß aber eben auch nicht, ob dies als TMC-Ereignis übermittelt wird, wenn nicht, ok. Wenn doch, wäre es nur blöd, wenn wegen dieser Punkt-Sperrung der vorbeifließende Verkehr (und seien es nur LKWs) dann über eine Umleitung geschickt würde. Ich sehe in den Event-Codes nichts was sich ausschließlich auf LKW bezieht und nichts was sich auf das Parken bezieht. Marcus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Kennzeichnung von (Nicht)Raucherkneipen/Hotels/Restaurants
Max Andre schrieb: Mit den drei Werten yes / no / separated sollten sich eigentlich alle relevanten Situationen abbilden lassen. Ich würde zusätzlich ein outside hinzufügen. Es gibt ja auch Gastronomie mit und ohne Außenbereich. Und draußen darf meisten geraucht werden. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] TMC Rastplatz an Autobahn
2010/1/20 Georg Feddern ne...@bavarianmallet.de: Das sehe ich anders, dann ist ja auch immer der Streckenabschnitt vor und/oder nach dem Rast-/Parkplatz betroffen, ob die Staulinie nun über den Rast-/Parkplatz oder über die Strecke dran vorbei geführt wird, ist dann m. E. nicht wesentlich. ... Vorerst bleibe ich dann bei der bisherigen Praxis. Dann pass aber auch auf, dass die Way-Liste das Segment über den Rastplatz geht und die der Road ebenfalls. Damit das ganze wenigstens konsistent bleibt. Mit der Road kann dann nicht mehr die existierende type=route route=road -Relation der Autobahn genommen werden. Marcus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] TMC Rastplatz an Autobahn
Moin, Marcus Wolschon schrieb: 2010/1/20 Georg Feddern ne...@bavarianmallet.de: Vorerst bleibe ich dann bei der bisherigen Praxis. Dann pass aber auch auf, dass die Way-Liste das Segment über den Rastplatz geht und die der Road ebenfalls. Damit das ganze wenigstens konsistent bleibt. Mit der Road kann dann nicht mehr die existierende type=route route=road -Relation der Autobahn genommen werden. Mißverständnis. Ich belasse die Punkte wie bisher auf der Strecke. Aber der Hinweis mit den Relationen ist auch ein Argument, das ein paar andere Sonderfälle (Punkt liegt weit außerhalb der route-Relation) betrifft - grmmpff, muss ich nochmal ein paar Extra-TMC-Relationen nachschieben. Gruß Georg ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features e rgänzt
Am 20. Januar 2010 03:44 schrieb Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: Ich hab mal die Map Features[1] mit den aktuellen verfügbaren OSMdoc[2] Verwendungszahlen verglichen. Außerdem hatte ich ein Auge auf der tagsupport Liste[3]. [...] Ich hab daher einiges in den Map Features ergänzt. Das sind (in Klammern die aktuellen Verwendungszahlen): [...] Zu den meisten Features gibt es auch proposal Seiten, da hab ich aber keine Ahnung was man machen muß um die entsprechend einzubinden - bzw. die Wahrscheinlichkeit das ich was kaputt mache ist zu hoch ;-) Wenn einer der geneigten Leser ... Gibt es irgendwo eine Anleitung, wie man Map Features ergänzen kann? Mir ist schon nicht klar, wie ich etwas in Map Features eintragen kann. Insbesondere interessiert mich aber, wie ich für die Deutschen Map Features die Englische Definition ersetzen kann. Danke Gruß, Falk ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features erg änzt
Ulf Lamping wrote: An die bestehenden Einträge habe ich folgendes hinzugefügt: barrier=fence wood_fence (~1400) und wire_fence (~1200) Ja, aber eben 1400 barrier=wood_fence von einem einzigen Mapper. Ich sehe das nicht als Indiz dafür, dass sich dieses Tag durchgesetzt hat - und damit auch nicht als guten Grund, das in die Map Features zu befördern. Das wäre mir ja egal, wenn das Tag was taugen würde. Ich finde es aber eine ziemlich unsinnige Idee, ein Zusatzattribut (Material), das fast alle Anwendungen erst mal nicht interessieren wird, mit in den barrier-Wert zu packen. Oder wollen wir demnächst auch auf highway=pebblestone_footway umstellen? Tobias Knerr PS: Teste gerade dieses Nabble-ML-Webfrontend - ich hoffe, es funktioniert alles... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Mal-wieder-einiges-in-den-Map-Features-erganzt-tp4424438p4426474.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Kennzeichnung von (Nicht)Raucherkneipen/Hotels/Restaurants
Thomas Reincke schrieb: Max Andre schrieb: Mit den drei Werten yes / no / separated sollten sich eigentlich alle relevanten Situationen abbilden lassen. Ich würde zusätzlich ein outside hinzufügen. Es gibt ja auch Gastronomie mit und ohne Außenbereich. Und draußen darf meisten geraucht werden. Stimmt, die Idee mit outside ist gut. Gibt ja doch viele Gastronomiebetriebe bei den auf der Terrasse geraucht werden darf, aber nicht im Gastraum. Hab's in das proposal aufgenommen. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Haiti - Küstenlinie
Mapnik verarbeitet die Kuestenlinien nicht direkt, sondern Shapefiles, die aus diesen generiert werden; diese Generierung findet aber nicht taeglich statt. Gibt es IRGNDEINE Möglichkeit, das ausnahmsweise mal zu beschleunigen oder außer der Reihe zumindest für Haiti manuell durchzuführen. Das würde die Darstellung der gerenderten Karte deutlich verbessern, die die meisten Leute zu sehen bekommen. Das Land besteht schließlich aus ziemlich viel Küste und die Darstellungsfehler Straßen und Camps im Wasser sind wirklich eklatant. Sieht nämlich eher nach einer Überschwemmungskatastrophe aus auf den Mapnik-Karten -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] OSM in CMS einbinden (Drupal, Joomla, Typo3)
Liebe OSMer, wer hat Erfahrung, wie man OSM-Karten in ein CMS einbaut? - Drupal - Joomla - Typo3 - ... Wäre super, wenn wir im Wiki eine deutschsprachige Anleitung dazu hätten! vielleicht später auch in Englisch? Wäre eine gute Möglichkeit, OSM weiter zu verbreiten. Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] URGENT!! Anfrage ZDF
Gerade hat mich Ferdinand Utner vom ZDF angerufen. Er sucht nach Personen, die in Haiti mappen. Es soll als Teil eines Berichtes gezeigt werden, wie aus den Luftbildern Daten entstehen. Ort ist egal, Termin am besten gestern. Naja, wenn sich keiner meldet, dann gibt's wieder ein Feature über die Mapper beim DLR, die überlegen sicher nicht lange... -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] OSM in CMS einbinden (Drupal, Joomla, Typo3)
Markus schrieb: Liebe OSMer, wer hat Erfahrung, wie man OSM-Karten in ein CMS einbaut? - Drupal - Joomla - Typo3 - ... Wäre super, wenn wir im Wiki eine deutschsprachige Anleitung dazu hätten! vielleicht später auch in Englisch? Wäre eine gute Möglichkeit, OSM weiter zu verbreiten. Gruss, Markus Für Wordpress gibt es ein OSM-Plugin [1]. Leider kann ich (noch) nichts zur Bedienung sagen, werde es mit aber gleich mal aus der Nähe anschauen. [1] http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/osm/ Grüße Max ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features erg änzt
Tordanik schrieb: Ulf Lamping wrote: An die bestehenden Einträge habe ich folgendes hinzugefügt: barrier=fence wood_fence (~1400) und wire_fence (~1200) Ja, aber eben 1400 barrier=wood_fence von einem einzigen Mapper. Ich sehe das nicht als Indiz dafür, dass sich dieses Tag durchgesetzt hat - und damit auch nicht als guten Grund, das in die Map Features zu befördern. Das wäre mir ja egal, wenn das Tag was taugen würde. Ich finde es aber eine ziemlich unsinnige Idee, ein Zusatzattribut (Material), das fast alle Anwendungen erst mal nicht interessieren wird, mit in den barrier-Wert zu packen. +1 Das ist mal wieder ganz schlechtes, nicht abwärtskompatibles, apps-breakendes Design. ;-) Ich wünsche mir einen Bot der das ändert zu barrier=fence, fence_type=wire oder so. Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] TMC Rastplatz an Autobahn
2010/1/20 Georg Feddern ne...@bavarianmallet.de: Aber der Hinweis mit den Relationen ist auch ein Argument, das ein paar andere Sonderfälle (Punkt liegt weit außerhalb der route-Relation) betrifft Hast du da Beispiele für? Sollte nicht wirklich vorkommen. Die Punkte definieren ja gerade welche Strecke gemeint ist. Marcus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Haiti - Küstenlinie
Johann H. Addicks wrote: Mapnik verarbeitet die Kuestenlinien nicht direkt, sondern Shapefiles, die aus diesen generiert werden; diese Generierung findet aber nicht taeglich statt. Gibt es IRGNDEINE Möglichkeit, das ausnahmsweise mal zu beschleunigen oder außer der Reihe zumindest für Haiti manuell durchzuführen. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-January/047335.html -- Lennard ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features erg änzt
Am 20. Januar 2010 14:30 schrieb Tordanik o...@tobias-knerr.de: Ulf Lamping wrote: An die bestehenden Einträge habe ich folgendes hinzugefügt: barrier=fence wood_fence (~1400) und wire_fence (~1200) Das wäre mir ja egal, wenn das Tag was taugen würde. Ich finde es aber eine ziemlich unsinnige Idee, ein Zusatzattribut (Material), das fast alle Anwendungen erst mal nicht interessieren wird, mit in den barrier-Wert zu packen. Oder wollen wir demnächst auch auf highway=pebblestone_footway umstellen? +1 (also -1 für den pebblestone_footway) barrier=fence barrier:material=wire/wood/concrete/steal/barbed_wire/iron/etc. barrier:type=chain-link (Maschendraht)/palisade (Palisadenzaun)/wattle (Flechtzaun)/etc. wie oft kein schlechter Einstieg: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaun Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] OSM in CMS einbinden (Drupal, Joomla, Typo3)
Am 20. Januar 2010 14:53 schrieb Markus liste12a4...@gmx.de: Liebe OSMer, wer hat Erfahrung, wie man OSM-Karten in ein CMS einbaut? - Drupal - Joomla - Typo3 zu Joomla gab es vor kurzem hier eine Ankündigung, dass jemand da ein Plugin/Erweiterung geschrieben hat. Findest Du im Archiv. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] OSM in CMS einbinden (Drupal, Joomla, Typo3)
Hallo Markus, Markus schrieb: Liebe OSMer, wer hat Erfahrung, wie man OSM-Karten in ein CMS einbaut? - Drupal - Joomla - Typo3 - ... Für Joomla gibt es injooosm [1], besprochen auch auf der deutschen ML [2], und joomGPStracks [3]. Über die Qualität kann ich leider (noch) nichts sagen. Grüße, Sebastian [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/injooosm/ [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-de@openstreetmap.org/msg57776.html [3] http://joomgpstracks.mp-development.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features erg änzt
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: barrier=fence barrier:material=wire/wood/concrete/steal/barbed_wire/iron/etc. .^^ Steal - Zaun geklaut??? [SCNR] ***hy ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features e rgänzt
Am 20. Januar 2010 16:34 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: +1 (also -1 für den pebblestone_footway) barrier=fence barrier:material=wire/wood/concrete/steal/barbed_wire/iron/etc. barrier:type=chain-link (Maschendraht)/palisade (Palisadenzaun)/wattle (Flechtzaun)/etc. wie oft kein schlechter Einstieg: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaun Gruß Martin Ja, wobei sich barrier:type und barrier:material oft überschneiden dürften - ich würde jedenfalls für alle maschendrahtzäune davon ausgehen, daß sie aus Metall sind ;-) barrier:height wäre auch *sehr* interessant, zumindest für meine Wanderkarten... :-) -Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Kennzeichnung von (Nicht)Raucherkneipen/Hotels/Restaurants
Moin, Max Andre schrieb: Thomas Reincke schrieb: Max Andre schrieb: Mit den drei Werten yes / no / separated sollten sich eigentlich alle relevanten Situationen abbilden lassen. Ich würde zusätzlich ein outside hinzufügen. Es gibt ja auch Gastronomie mit und ohne Außenbereich. Und draußen darf meisten geraucht werden. Stimmt, die Idee mit outside ist gut. Gibt ja doch viele Gastronomiebetriebe bei den auf der Terrasse geraucht werden darf, aber nicht im Gastraum. Hab's in das proposal aufgenommen. Die Korinthe muss jetzt noch raus: Ich kenne eine Kneipe, die hat keinen echten Außenbereich, aber dafür draußen vor dem Eingang ein beheiztes Gartenhäuschen hingestellt. Ist das dann smoking=outside;seperated? Duck und wech Georg ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features erg änzt
Am 20. Januar 2010 15:53 schrieb hy-soft hy-s...@sha-mash.de: Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: barrier=fence barrier:material=wire/wood/concrete/steal/barbed_wire/iron/etc. .^^ Steal - Zaun geklaut??? Oops, kommt mal vor ;-) gemeint war natürlich ein Stahlzaun. Davon gibt's ja auch durchaus verschiedene (z.B. mesh (oder besser welded_mesh? Oder sollen wir die Fügungsart (geschweisst, geschmiedet, verschraubt, genagelt, geflochten, etc. in einen weiteren Subtag packen? Interessant wären z.B. auch Angaben zu Maschenweite). mesh http://img.archiexpo.com/images_ae/photo-g/welded-mesh-fence-127462.jpg palisade? bars? http://img.archiexpo.com/images_ae/photo-g/steel-fence-161624.jpg wie nennt man wohl das auf Englisch? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Metallzaun_vor_Hecke_und_Mauer.jpg Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features e rgänzt
barrier=fence barrier:material=wire/wood/concrete/steal/barbed_wire/iron/etc. .^^ Steal - Zaun geklaut??? Metalldiebe sind überall. Von geklauten Feuerleitern und selbst Bahn-Fahrdrähten liest man immer wieder. Da könnte man also auch dieses virtuelle Material taggen... -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features erg änzt
Am 20. Januar 2010 16:05 schrieb Martin Simon grenzde...@gmail.com: Ja, wobei sich barrier:type und barrier:material oft überschneiden dürften - ich würde jedenfalls für alle maschendrahtzäune davon ausgehen, daß sie aus Metall sind ;-) ja, man muss ja nicht immer alle Tags angeben, bei vielen Konstruktionsarten ist aber durchaus unterschiedliches Material möglich. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features e rgänzt
Ja, wobei sich barrier:type und barrier:material oft überschneiden dürften - Wie heisst eigentlich Streckmetall (die Bewohner der östlichen Bundesländer kennen es zu Genüge) auf englisch? meshed metal baffle? -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] TMC-Punkt in Abwegen
Am 20. Januar 2010 07:43 schrieb Marcus Wolschon marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com: Wenn der Rastplatz bei Purschwitz in das Segment http://osm-tmc.anders-hamburg.de/segment.php?lcd=42607 passt, würde ich den wählen. Nein er würde eigentlich in das folg. Segment gehören. http://osm-tmc.anders-hamburg.de/segment.php?lcd=7101 zw. http://osm-tmc.anders-hamburg.de/point.php?lcd=11204 und http://osm-tmc.anders-hamburg.de/point.php?lcd=11205 Also wie weiter? Keine Ahnung wie es zu sowas kommen konnte. Ich kann mir nur denken dass der Rastplatz weiter die Strasse rauf geplant war oder hier irgendwas mit den Koordinaten durcheinander gekommen ist. Aber frag mich nicht wie. Eher zweiteres. Ciao André ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] OSM in CMS einbinden (Drupal, Joomla, Typo3)
Am Mittwoch, den 20.01.2010, 15:44 +0100 schrieb Sebastian Klemm: Für Joomla gibt es injooosm [1], besprochen auch auf der deutschen ML [2], und joomGPStracks [3]. Über die Qualität kann ich leider (noch) nichts sagen. Hallo zusammen, ich bin der Entwickler von injooosm, genauer gesagt Weiterentwickler, da es von joomGPStracks stammt, dieses aber eingefroren ist. Wenn Du was bestimmtest suchst/brauchst sag‘ Bescheid, da bin ich flexibel :-) Nächste Version steht eh bald an. Knappe OnLine-Demo: http://injooosm.sourceforge.net/ Grüße, Sebastian MfG, Chris.. [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/injooosm/ [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-de@openstreetmap.org/msg57776.html ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features e rgänzt
Am 20. Januar 2010 17:11 schrieb Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net: Wie heisst eigentlich Streckmetall (die Bewohner der östlichen Bundesländer kennen es zu Genüge) auf englisch? meshed metal baffle? Was heißt das auf deutsch? ;-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features erg änzt
Falk Zscheile schrieb: Gibt es irgendwo eine Anleitung, wie man Map Features ergänzen kann? Dir hilft vermutlich als Erstes der Link unter Help: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki Gruß malenki ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] OSM in CMS einbinden (Drupal, Joomla, Typo3)
Max Andre telegnom@googlemail.com wrote: Für Wordpress gibt es ein OSM-Plugin [1]. Das ist ganz nett! Beispiele: http://blog.gegg.us/2009/08/openstreetmap-communal-data-import/ http://www.christeck.de/wp/2009/12/06/mapping-rivers-in-the-woods-2/ Gruss Sven -- Der normale Bürger ist nicht an der TU Dresden und schreibt auch nicht mit mutt. (Ulli Kuhnle in de.comp.os.unix.discussion) /me is gig...@ircnet, http://sven.gegg.us/ on the Web ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] LinuxTag 2010
Der LinuxTag ist eine der größten Veranstaltungen zum Thema Open Source etc. in Europa. Die letzten Jahre war OSM dort immer vertreten, sowohl mit einem Stand als auch mit Vorträgen. Wäre schön, wenn das dieses Jahr auch wieder was wird. Vorletztes Jahr hat Frederik einen Vortrag gehalten, letztes Jahr ich, vielleicht mag diesmal jemand anderes. Ich bin von den LinuxTaglern auch angesprochen worden, ob man nicht einen Block von mehreren Vorträgen zu verschiedenen OSM-Themen zusammenstellen will. Ich hab keine Zeit für, aber wenn jemand mag, bitte melden. Kontakte kann ich gerne herstellen. Hier ist der Call for Papers (läuft noch bis zum 29. Januar): http://www.linuxtag.org/2010/de/program/call-for-papers.html Will sich jemand von den Berlinern wieder um die Orga des Standes kümmern? Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
