Re: [Ankur-core] Huge contribution to E2B dictionary project

2009-08-31 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi,

 I'd be glad to help, Bhaiya :)

 I hope, I can help you, please send me a mail.


Thanks Zaher and Salahuddin. I will be sending you a list
of words each along with brief instructions shortly.

Best,
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[Ankur-core] Huge contribution to E2B dictionary project

2009-08-30 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi all,

I am delighted to share this news with you that
Mr Sharfuz Zaman (sharfuz at gmail dot com) has donated
more than 16 thousands meanings to Ankur E2B dictionary
project. This is more than the number of edited entries that
we have currently.

I have started pushing them into our MySQL database.
With bit of checking and minor editing this could take weeks
to complete unless some of you want to help me out.


Cheers,
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[Ankur-core] Ankur Abhidhan project needs help!

2009-06-08 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi All,

Ankur English to Bengali dictionary project [1] has been serving
increasingly more and more users for quite some time.  According
to Google analytics, Ankur E2B dictionary project has served
more than sixty thousands request in last month alone [2].

It has also lead to increased contributions.  Unfortunately,
the project is lacking man-power to keep up with the
increased demand. Also, I am unable to give enough time
to the project lately and I don't see my situation is changing
anytime soon. Consequently, large numbers of contributed
entries remain unedited [3].

So I am now seeking opinions from Ankur members to sustain
the project meaningfully.

I would be happy to make personal request to anyone who
might be interested in helping the project by any means.
In case, you know of someone either from Ankur or outside,
who could help in this regard, then please let me know.
It may be helpful to forward this request to any other
interested groups.


[1]  http://www.bengalinux.org/english-to-bengali-dictionary/
[2]  
http://www.bengalinux.org/english-to-bengali-dictionary/VisitorsOverviewReport.pdf
[3]  http://www.bengalinux.org/cgi-bin/abhidhan/statistics.pl

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Ankur Dictionary

2009-05-13 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi Salahuddin,

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:26 AM, salahuddin66 salahuddi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, you are right. Personally I also think getxml.pl would be a
 standard name. Now BDictXML import BDictSQL and use the existing db
 function.

 File attached. Please feel free to let me know if you need any changes. :)


First of all, it is coming out very nicely.  I have one more suggestion.


                dict_entry_unedited id=7


I would prefer not to have above element for the following reason.

The client side parsing would need to have separate code for reading
unedited entries. My suggestion would be to have

statusUNEDITED/status

for each entry. Currently, we have four separate status

(1) EDITED
(2) UNEDITED*
(3) OBSOLETE
(4) DELETED   (It helps to undo delete easily by simply changing the status).

Also, there is a unique id field for each dictionary entry. In case, you want
to have editing capability in your client app then you need to send
back this id.  So something like this would be good to have

bdict_id23232/bdict_id

for each entry.

Given you are almost finishing up the spec, I would urge you to
write down the final specifications that we can put up in Abhidhan
page.  This will help those who would want to write their own
XML based app using Ankur dictionary.

Here is the current dict_table elements

  `id` int(11) NOT NULL auto_increment,
  `en_word` text,
  `pos_tag` text,
  `en_lemma` text,
  `bn_pronunciation` text,
  `bn_word` text,
  `explanation` text,
  `example` text,
  `status` text,


Finally, please make sure  to put your name in the license
headers and in the final XML specs.

Best,
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Re: [Ankur-core] XML standard for Ankur's Abhidhan

2009-05-12 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi,

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Salahuddin Pasha
salahuddi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Basic work is already done, but we need to define a standard XML (XML
 DTD or XML Schema).
 Example: test XML output.

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
 dictionary
       search_results
               dict_entry id=1
                       en_wordread/en_word
                       pos_tagNoun, singular or mass/pos_tag


Thanks a lot for your work.

I should suggest that you also try to have an entry for PennTag
for Parts-of-Speech (pos) like NN, VV etc. So something like

penn_tagNN/penn_tag

This would be needed if Anubadok Online intreface needs to update its
database using your XML gateway of Ankur dictionary database.

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Firefox Padma Update for Anandabazar rendering bug

2009-05-10 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Shabab Mustafa
shabab.must...@gmail.com wrote:
 The rendering of Padma cannot show the 'কার' and sometimes the 'য-ফলা
 properly. Is it a drawback of Padma? or the poor typeset of Anandabazar and
 Bartaman?

It's likely that Padma is at fault. Could you please send me a link to the
page where you see those issue?

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[Ankur-core] Firefox Padma Update for Anandabazar rendering bug

2009-05-09 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi,

Some of you might find this update on Padama rendering bug for ABP
to be useful

http://methopath.wordpress.com/2009/05/09/improved-firefox-padma-for-reading-anandabazar-bartaman/

Cheers,
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[Ankur-core] Fwd: [Anubadok-core] english to bangla dictionary

2009-05-06 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hello Asif,

Given Anubadok uses dictionary database from Ankur's
English to Bengali dictionary project
( http://www.bengalinux.org/english-to-bengali-dictionary/ ),
I am forwarding your email to Ankur's mailing list.

Regarding the encoding problem of dictionary database dump, frankly,
I am aware of this problem. This problem seems to have started
after last year's SourceForge data-center migration although
web interface works as expected. So I am sort of guilty for not
fixing this issue earlier.

Does anyone know whether there are easy ways to fix the
encoding/re-encoding of MySQL database dump in utf-8?

Thanks,
Golam


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From: asif mahmud acid_ko...@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:20 AM


Helo everyone,

currently i am trying to develop a english to bangla dictionary
software for desktop. I was really excited to find this project called
anubadok and the english to bangla dictionary. Specially the
dictionary is the thing that will help me a lot.

I was trying to fetch the bangla content from the table dict_table.
However, i failed to collect the strings. It was showing all junks. I
saw that the table use utf8 encoding, so i used set NAMES = 'utf8'
function before select statements in mysql. i tried with collations
like utf8_general/unicode_ci but no luck. I have been trying this for
quite a long time but its not working. If you could provide me some
clue regarding fetching the bangla characters from db, it would be
really helpful for me.

Thanks in advance
-Asif

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[Ankur-core] E2B dictionary project [Was: Re: waiting for repley ...]

2009-03-14 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hello,

Thanks for your interests in Ankur English to Bengali dictionary
project.

You are always welcome to contribute to the project. Normally,
you can use dictionary interface to contribute. However, if
you want to contribute offline way then please let me know.

You can write Juktakhor, ra-phala, ba-phala etc by
using hasanta though the interface. For example,

1)প +  ্ + র  =  প্র   (PA + Hasanta + RA)

2)স + ্ + ব + প + ্ +ন  = স্বপ্ন

You can find more on juktakkhor from the link (courtesy Ekushey)

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ekushey/Bangla_Conjunction_Lists.pdf?download

Best,




On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Mohammad Onupom Rahman
onup...@yahoo.com wrote:

 assalamu alaikum
 vai golam hossain ,
 otibo poritaper bisoy je bangla vasa vasi jono gosthi eto bishal howa 
 sotteo.. er jonno uccho sikkhai sikkhito howar sohayok english sikkhar jonno 
 web a kono poripurno dictionary nai. so apni ei guru daitto ti nia 
 silen..kintu kormer bahullota and paribarik jhamelai khub somvoboto apni egie 
 uthte paren ni..
 ami apnar ei kajke saagoto janie amar khudro agroho apnader kormer proti 
 prokash korsi..
 jodi somvob hoy ki vabe apnader ei kormoke ami egie niite pari taha bolben.. 
 ami bangla bijoy jani.and english type o mota muti valo..
 kintu apnader unicode dictionary te dekhlam banglar ro fola ba jo fola dewar 
 kono upai nai.. ja bijoy board e sohojei dewa jai..fole issa thaka sotteo 
 dictionary te notun word jog kora jai nai.
 ei bisoy guli kheyal korben
 ar pori seshe apnar mail er opekkhai roilam
 mohammad onupom rhaman






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[Ankur-core] New Editor Member of Ankur E2B Dictionary Project

2009-02-23 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi All,

On behalf of Ankur English to Bengali dictionary project,
I am delighted to welcome Rezwan, as the new editor of
the dictionary project. He will be joining Dipankar Das
and myself to have editing access on Ankur dictionary
database.

Some of you may already know Rezwan. He is  a prolific
blogger. He blogs on wide-ranging issues, including several
important social issues. He is a regular contributor to
Global Voices Online [1] both in English and Bengali. You
can read more in his blog

http://rezwanul.blogspot.com

In last couple of months,  I have had several email
exchanges with him and he had expressed keen interests
on having a free dictionary for Bengali. I had requested
him whether he could  help Ankur dictionary project with
his expertize. I am glad to hear his positive reply.


Apart from editing, currently he is also exploring an
interesting idea of giving out gift-cheques to volunteers
of the project who contribute significant number of new
dictionary entries. Personal donations could be one of
the funding sources.


Finally, current statistics of the dictionary project is available
from here

http://www.bengalinux.org/cgi-bin/abhidhan/statistics.pl



[1]  http://globalvoicesonline.org

Cheers
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Re: [Ankur-core] Firefox Padma :: Support for almost all Bengali News Sites (India + Bangladesh)

2009-02-16 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Omi m...@omiazad.net wrote:
 In my point of view this addon sux. It even doesn't change the encoding of
 the page after converting them into Unicode. Texts becomes garbage if we use
 this.

Try changing your browser encoding to Unicode
( View - Character Encoding - Unicode ).  Which version, OS, and default
encoding of Firefox have you tried? Please let me know. I will pass
your issue to the upstream :-)

Best,
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[Ankur-core] Fwd: Firefox Padma :: Support for almost all Bengali News Sites (India + Bangladesh)

2009-02-16 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
-- Forwarded message --
From: সোহম চ্যাটার্জী soham.chatter...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox Padma :: Support for almost all Bengali News
Sites (India  + Bangladesh)
To: Golam Mortuza Hossain gmhoss...@gmail.com


Dear Golam!

Let me congratulate you at the outset for a great service to all
Bengali speakers. With one stroke a number of significant mile-stones
have been crossed.

I have installed the new version in both Windows and Linux and have
checked out a number of sites and added 10 more sites to the
white-list which can also be transformed by the new version. I have
observed some glitches, which I am sure, have been obvious to you too.

These sites have been added to the white-list -

www.jugantor.com
www.chandpurkantha.com
www.satyeralo.net
www.weeklyamod.com
www.banglapaper.net
www.weeklysonarbangla.com
www.bangladesherkhela.info
www.canvasonline.biz
www.energybangla.com
www.computerbarta.com
www.suprovatbangladesh.com

Some problems that have been observed are -

Samokal -

র্যাবের নিষ্ক্রিয়তা অার পুলিশের শিথিলতার কারণে রাজধানীর অাইন-শৃঙ্খলা
পরিস্্থিতি উদ্্বগেজনক পর্যায়ে পেঁৗছেছে।

The text should be  -

র‌্যাবের নিষ্ক্রিয়তা আর পুলিশের শিথিলতার কারণে রাজধানীর আইন-শৃঙ্খলা
পরিস্থিতি উদ্বেগজনক পর্যায়ে পৌঁছেছে।

The Jugantor site has posed some problems for me. While Padma has
transformed the main page and most of the site text, but when an
article is clicked upon Padma doesnt transform the text neither
automatically nor throught the direct method of selecting text and
clicking Transform to Unicode. This is think is a site-problem rather
than Padma's.

Also on installing in Ubuntu Linux, I have messed up the settings and
auto-transform is not working any more. I have tried uninstalling and
re-installing but the problem persists.

Most of the glitches with other fonts, that I have noticed through a
quick perusal, mostly concern with া, conjuncts with lower ব, ্য, and
ঃ . This only goes to show that an amazing job has been done and I am
honored to enjoy this correspondence with you.

The next mile-stone is the BanglapediaII font of the Banglapedia site,
and maybe the West Bengal Government's Banglarmukh site which uses
some WebSamhita font which I have not managed to install and run in
IE. Only a few sites remain such as Parabaas, Vinnomot, Viswayan,
Medinipur.com, Guruchandali, Prabasi.org, Abasar and Al-Ihsan. But
these sites use separate fonts. I would like to see the new mappings
when the source is available regarding which you had been discussing
with Harshita Vani. I guess it will be much easier to map the fonts
then.

Thanks and best wishes,

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Re: [Ankur-core] Fwd: Firefox Padma :: Support for almost all Bengali News Sites (India + Bangladesh)

2009-02-16 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Omi m...@omiazad.net wrote:
 This is the problem I was talking about.

 Install Padma and go to Anandabazar's site and see how bad it works. Even it
 takes huge resource. I'm happy with Poroshmoni.


:-))

Oh, now I see your point of view as well as the actual problem.
Your company product seems to have found a competitor in Padma!
Its good to have competition, specially if it is between
open-source and closed-source. Users will benefit :-))

Cheers
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[Ankur-core] Firefox Padma :: Support for almost all Bengali News Sites (India + Bangladesh)

2009-02-15 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi,

I am about to submit the support for following Bengali
news websites for viewing in Firefox using the extension
Padma ( padma.mozdev.org ), for upstream inclusion.

Here is an unofficial Padma XPI file that you can install to
check it working yourself.  It will be great to get your
feedback, specially if you find any omission or any other
issue.

http://www.math.unb.ca/~ghossain/padma-0.4.14-new-bengali.xpi

***Note: If you have Padma already installed, you might need
to clean up your old preferences for auto transform to work
for new websites. Try about:config in Firefox location bar
then remove the old line Padma.autoTransformWhiteList.


Here goes the list:

Indian Sites:
===

* Anandabazar (some error fixed)   ( http://www.anandabazar.com )

* Bartaman (some error fixed)   ( http://www.bartamanpatrika.com )

* Aajkaal ( http://www.aajkaal.net )

* Uttarbanga Sambad ( http://www.uttarbangasambad.com )


Bangladeshi Sites:
===

* Prothom Alo ( http://www.prothom-alo.com )

* Amar Desh ( http://www.amardeshbd.com )

* Daily Desh Bangla ( http://www.dailydeshbangla.com )

* Amader Shomoy ( http://www.amadershomoy.com )

* Bhorer Kagoj ( http://www.bhorerkagoj.net, http://www.bangladeshnews24.com )

* Ittefaq ( http://www.ittefaq.com )

* Jai Jai Din ( http://www.jaijaidin.com )

* Naya Diganta ( http://www.dailynayadiganta.com )

* Jugantor ( http://www.jugantor.com )

* Manab Zamin ( http://www.manabzamin.net )

* Daily Dinkal ( http://www.daily-dinkal.com )

* Dainik Destiny (http://www.dainikdestiny.com )

* Shamokal ( http://www.shamokal.com )

* Daily Sangbad ( http://www.thedailysangbad.com )

* Daily Sangram ( http://www.dailysangram.com )


Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Copyright Violation of Baishakhi Inscript Keyboard

2009-01-20 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Dear Prof.  Basu,

First of all, let me congratulate you for taking the huge step
of promoting Free Open source Linux OS in Bengali through
the means of releasing a localized Bengali, Ubuntu-derivative
Linux distribution named Baishakhi.

This particular email is in response to your alleged claim of
copyright violation of Baishakhi Inscript keyboard layout which
is one of several layouts, being used in Ankur's
English to Bengali dictionary project [1]. I, being the maintainer
of the project, take the responsibility of responding to your
claims [your email enclosed below].

I think, it is better to have the terminology clarified before getting
into the discussion.  As far as I see, there are three aspects of it.
(1) Issue of trademark
(2) Copyright of Layout design
(3) Method of implementing the layout


(1) Issue of trademark: As you have claimed, you own the trademark
of Baishakhi  then I agree we can't use the term Baishakhi in our
project. I will make sure the term is not used anymore.


(2) Copyright of layout design. You have claimed that Baishakhi Inscript
is copyrighted to us.  I am amazed to see your tall claim.

You, in your specification, have clearly said Baishakhi Inscript is a
modified version of Inscript layout design [2]. So, according to you,
Baishakhi Inscript is  a derivative of Inscript layout design.

I am sure, you are aware that  according to the terms of GPL
the original authors (In this case Bureau of Indian Standards, Govt
of India) remain the copyright holder of any derivative work.
Just because you have modified some part,  doesn't make you an
exclusive copyright holder of the design.


(3) Method of implementation:  You have claimed, that the .klc
file that is being used for Baishakhi Inscript in the Bengali Virtual
Keyboard of [2], is a minimal modification of  baishakhi_inscrpt.klc
prepared by us .

Would you please care to show, where exactly any Ubuntu version
or your Baishakhi Linux uses .klc file (Microsoft layout format) to
specify any input layout?

Or would you please point out any link where from one can get
the source of Baishakhi Linux so that one can check whether
baishakhi_inscrpt.klc file exist inside it at all? Question of
verifying your claim of minimal modifications, comes later.

Otherwise, the question of minimal modification of your .klc file
seems just a wishful thinking to me.


Regarding wrong mapping of ?, I think that is a bug in my
implementation and not a feature.


I mainly volunteer for use of Bengali in Free OS like Linux and I have
no intension of taking the credit that you deserve.  It is really
painful to see your allegation, specially when you claim to promote
free software movement for Bengali.


In any case, I will be happy to hear your response.

[1] http://www.bengalinux.org/english-to-bengali-dictionary/
[2] http://www.nltr.org/download/About_Inscript_Keyboard.pdf



NB: Given the issue affects one of Ankur (Bengalinux.org)
project, I am marking a CC to the core member of the group.

Best Regards,
Golam





On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Ilya S. Lebedev i...@lebedev.net wrote:
 Hello Golam,

 I've received a letter from Anupam Basu, director of Society of
 Natural Language Technology Research complaining of use their
 registered keyboard layout name Baishakhi Inscript.

 Please, rename your layout to fix this issue.

 Thank you.

 -- Forwarded --
 Fro  Anupam Basu anupam...@gmail.com
 To:  Ilya S. Lebedev i...@lebedev.net
 Date:Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:48:10 +0530
 Subject: Copyright Violation of Baishakhi Inscript Keyboard

 Dear Ilya,

The keyboard layout Baishakhi Inscript  was developed by Society
 of Natural Language Technology Research and Mat3Impex. The same
 was released by the Hon. Minister of IT in September 2008

 I have compared the two .klc files (baishakhi_inscrpt.klc prepared by us and 
 another bengali-baishakhi-inscript.klc by  Mr. Hossain). There are some minor 
 changes in his .klc file. The most important thing is that  in his  .klc file 
  there is no  '? ' but in our .klc file it is in normal mode of 'w' key.

 Hence, it will be proper to include our keyboard as the Baishakhi Inscript, 
 copyrighted to us.
 We will send our .klc file to you.

  Mr. Hossain can rename his file and publish it with the minimal modification 
 that he has done UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME.

 Regards,

 Anupam Basu


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[Ankur-core] Virtual Keyboard for Bengali

2008-11-16 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi All,

Ankur E2B dictionary project

http://www.bengalinux.org/english-to-bengali-dictionary/

has now got a new browser-based Bengali Virtual Keyboard.
The demo page is here

http://www.bengalinux.org/english-to-bengali-dictionary/bengali-virtual-keyboard.htm

I guess, currently this is the most sophisticated browser-based
virtual keyboard for Bengali available under OSI-approved license.

Please try it out and let me know if you face any issue.

Cheers
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Re: [Ankur-core] Ankur dictionary and Bnwebtools new license

2008-11-14 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi all,

As it appears, its time for change. Bnwebtool is
not  available anymore. So I have tentatively decided
to drop bnwebtools from Ankur dictionary project.
I am playing with few other options and expecting
a replacement soon.

Cheers
Golam



On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Golam Mortuza Hossain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Murshed,

 I am writing you regarding your bnwebtools and its new license.

 As you know, we use your bnwebtools in Ankur's E2B dictionary
 project. Frankly, your tool has been extremely useful to the project.

 I was considering an upgrade of bnwebtools to the latest version.
 However, your new license terms (v 2.1.0) made me extremely
 concerned about your tool.

 In Sourceforge project page  http://sourceforge.net/projects/bnwebtools
 the mentioned license is GPL.

 On the other hand, in your site   http://bnwebtools.sourceforge.net/
 the mentioned license is GPL only for non-commercial use.

 In my understanding, both these licenses are incompatible with
 each other. GPL doesn't prevent any commercial use.  It seems to
 me your new license also violates Sourceforge terms of service
 as they allow only OSI-approved license for code hosting.

 http://alexandria.wiki.sourceforge.net/Terms+of+Use

 However, the main concern for me is, we allow distribution of the
 dictionary project under GPL. This includes database as well as client
 program (CGI scripts) which currently includes your Bnwebtools inside
 it.

 So if someone wants s/he can use our dictionary project
 to take out the bnwebtools and use it for ANY purpose including
 commercial as per as GPL. This will bypass your intended
 license completely.  Does it mean, we cannot use it
 in the dictionary project anymore?

 It will be really helpful if you could clarify about the new license.

 Given this issue affects Ankur's dictionary project, I am marking this
 email also to Ankur-core.

 Thanks in advance for your response.

 Regards
 Golam


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Re: [Ankur-core] KDE 4 - Bengali Translation

2008-07-24 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Deepayan Sarkar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't have much information on the bn_IN part, as that has more or
 less completely bypassed the Ankur lists.


OK! Should I then presume that one should contribute translations for
KDE through Ankur kde-list only for bn until the policy for bn_IN
is spelled out?

I remember having long discussion on bn, bn_IN issue for Gnome.
Similarly, It would be good if Sayamindu, Runa, ... could point the
differences in policy for bn_IN for KDE as well.

It would be helpful for those who want to contribute  to both bn and
bn_IN but with suitably modified translations according to their policy.

 I was planning to take a closer look after 4.1 was out.

That's good. Please let us know your comments once 4.1 is out
and whether it requires any changes to the current method
of translations.


Cheers
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[Ankur-core] KDE 4 - Bengali Translation

2008-07-23 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi All,

It seems KDE 4.1 release candidate was out last week
and final release is scheduled for next week. Given,
this release is going to be the first production
release of KDE 4 series,  I was wondering whether
there are any related plans by some of our Ankur
members.

Also, I am bit confused about the BN and BN-IN issue.
How and where should one contribute new PO file translation?
Does one need to contribute separate translation (specially
if it doesn't have any country-specific issues) ?

It would be helpful if Deepayan, Runa, and others can
shed some light on these issues.

Thanks and Cheers,
Golam
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[Ankur-core] Why Should You Switch to Unicode?

2008-07-03 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi,

We all are aware that many local language websites are still
continuing the use of non-standard encoding. In a related
discussion, Sankarshan has made an interesting suggestion
of compiling a set of arguments favoring the use of Unicode.

The arguments should be aimed at the people who run websites
with local language contents (mainly in Indian sub-continent)
using dynamic font technology instead of standard Unicode.

Following Sankarshan's suggestion, I am putting forward
an initial set of arguments (from my own perspective).

Please add your arguments and/or modify/change/delete the
the arguments below. We are planning to put up the final
version in Ankur website. These arguments can be used
as handy reference to pursue people for switching to
Unicode.

==


  Why Should You Switch to Unicode?
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


By switching to Unicode you can...


 (*) Instantly expand your current user base
 

Unicode is now supported at a native level in all
major operating systems including Windows Vista, XP, Linux,
Mac, BSD. One the other hand, dynamics font technology are
supported only in a subset of OSs. Thus, switching to
Unicode not only allows you to retain your current users
but also allows you to expand your user base immediately.



 (*) Make your contents search-able in search engine like Google
 ---

It is extremely likely that a major fraction of your users
reach your website via results of search engine. Switching
to Unicode makes your local language contents search-able
in search engine like Google. This will lead additional
web-traffic to your website. Consequently, it could lead
to additional search-engine generated revenue for you.

The number of Internet users in Indian subcontinent is
going to increase in coming future. A significant portion
of new Internet users will be coming from the interior
part of the countries. Most of these users will be more
comfortable in searching Internet using keywords
in their own language.


 (*) Save future hassles of converting your legacy contents
 -

By continuing the use of non-standard encoding, you will
be piling up your archive with non-standard contents which
would require a major effort in your part to convert them
into standard encoding. You can save future hassles of
conversion by switching to Unicode sooner than later.


==

Cheers
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Re: [Ankur-core] Bangla OCR progress

2008-07-02 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 This guy seems to be doing some interesting progress for a Bangla OCR
 - or more precisely, enabling Bangla in Tesseract.
 http://debayanin.googlepages.com/hackingtesseract

Yes, it looks definitely interesting.

 Looks like he needs some more training data - can we provide him with some ?

If I remember correctly, there was a sample file for testing completeness
of Bengali fonts. Since it has all letters and conjuncts typed-in, the
file might
be useful for training Tesseract as well .

Deepayan should be able to give some input here. He has working experience
with R and may have some training sample as well.

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] attn: ankur/bengali-linux team, hossain saheb

2008-01-28 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Dear Dr Agarwala,

 I am grateful to the ankur online dictionary project. it was a great help to
 me.

Its my pleasure to accept your compliment on behalf of Ankurian
and the dictionary project.

 = interface (I have thought and coined a word 'antarprishto'. is that ok?)

If I am not wrong, Ankur members, in the past, have mostly used ইন্টারফেস
(interface) for this word.

 = cascade (I have thought 'propater moto sajan'. is that ok?)
 = tile horizontally (I have thought 'anubhoomik bhabe sajan'. is that ok?)
 = tile vertically (I have thought 'ullamba bhabe sajan'. is that ok?)

These seems fine to me,

 =check for updates (I have thought 'sampratikikaran karun'. is that
 ok?)

Here, I will prefer to keep the english word update.


 Regular Expressions or Wildcards are terms with very specific meanings.
 So unless there is a Bengali equivalent, it may be best to simply
 transliterate the terms. but, bengali being such a rich language, I would
 be interested in accurately translating these IT terms.

That would be interesting! However, in my experience, I have seen
people to have varied opinion in this regard.


Best Regards,
Golam
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Re: [Ankur-core] Ankur E2B dictionary Reloaded: Trial launch

2007-11-12 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On Nov 11, 2007 2:28 PM, Sajed Chowdhury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Golam,

 It's great to see you continue your good work in machine translation.

 I was wondering, just how big is the word list? Is it available as sql
 dump or xml?

No of entries in the list is around 12k but no of words are less than
that. Yes, its should be available as sql dump though currently its in
a mess. I expect this transition to settle down within a week. After
that I will put up a link for downloading the sql dump.


 Since AJAX is all the rage now, have you considered implementing a
 Google Suggest-like functionality?

Not yet! My priority at present is to increase the size of the database.


Cheers,
Golam

 Maybe not with the entire word
 list, but say, top X words, like Google Suggest shows from top X
 search terms.

 Also, a natural progression would be to turn the web page into an
 iGoogle module.

 I'm not sure this is valuable feedback, but anyways there it is!

 thanks,

 -Sajed


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[Ankur-core] Ankur E2B dictionary Reloaded: Trial launch

2007-11-11 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi All,

I am happy to announce the trial launch of Ankur's new E2B
dictionary interface with MySQL backend.  New user interface
uses CSS extensively and is available at

http://www.bengalinux.org/cgi-bin/abhidhan/new/index.pl

This is a trial launch so please feel free to do everything you
wish. Please let me know your suggestions and/or bugs.

As Dipankar-da suggested, it aims to provide some sort
of controlled wiki interface. Every user (registered/not-registered)
can contribute but the decision of users with rank of 'EDITOR' will
make it to the main dictionary.

A full example of new interface can be seen here

http://www.bengalinux.org/cgi-bin/abhidhan/new/index.pl?en_word=critical

I have merged (not in trial run) the database of GPoSTTL with it.
This mean this interface knows almost all  English words. So
it can tell a user whether s/he has made a possible spelling error.

After this trial run (hopefully within next few days) old interface will be
replaced by the new interface.


BTW, I have also slightly modified its logo :)

Cheers,
Golam

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Re: [Ankur-core] West Bengal govt and free software

2007-06-13 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 6/13/07, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  http://www.anandabazar.com/9bus2.htm

 That URL returns a 404.

Hmm!! I posted this one 9th June and url was valid.
Anyway this is from their archive

http://www.anandabazar.com/archive/1070609/9bus2.htm


  However are you looking for specific information
 or a general overview of what's happening related to:

Just for a general overview!!

Thanks,
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[Ankur-core] West Bengal govt and free software

2007-06-12 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi all,

According to

http://www.anandabazar.com/9bus2.htm

West Bengal government is moving to free software
for its e-governance project.

Any other thought on this?

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Ankur's English to Bengali Dictionary

2007-05-14 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 5/14/07, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay  wrote:

  I have updated the interface of Ankur's E2B dictionary with Murshed's
  really nice BN Web tool. So now people can contribute new Bengali
  word without changing his/her keyboard layout and it should just work
 :-)
 
  http://www.bengalinux.org/cgi-bin/abhidhan/bdict.pl
 
  So please feel free to test it and post any suggestions that you
  may have.

 I have a single query: what are the things that you think are required
 to enhance, augment and make your effort more rich ?



In my opinion, there are basically two fronts that require efforts.

1) First and most crucial one to have more contributors. Say, as
a first target we want to have a dictionary which has 25,000 words
(near same no of definitions that of Pocket Oxford dictionary).
For that, we need to have roughly around 50,000 entries in our database
(each parts of speech, are counted separately)
Currently we have 11,000+ entries.

So roughly 100 entries a day, will take us within this target in a year.
On the other hand with current rate of roughly 10 entries a day will take
ten years!!

BTW, during Jamil-bhai's localization camp  contributions goes up
to few hundreds a day :-)

2) Second aspect is technical. As suggested by Dipankar-da, we can
have more richer database. For example, for each entry (English word)
apart from current field of Bengali meaning and Parts of speech, we can
have more fields like Explanation (ব্যাখ্যা), Usage, Original
Contributor,
Last editor, etc...

Currently, the database is in plain text. However, I have plans to switch
into
some good database back-end during the course.

These are my current thoughts on it but I try to keep myself
open to new ideas!!

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[Ankur-core] Revamped interface for online PO Anubadok

2007-05-12 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi all,

I have updated the interface for online PO file translator.

http://www.bengalinux.org/cgi-bin/anubadok/po/index.pl

The interface is now capable of handling header information.
Also, it can now manipulate translator's name, email id inside
PO catalog.

The new interface will set cookie to preserve translator's information.
This of course, means you won't have to type your name,.. every time
you use the interface.

As usual, please feel free to test it and post your suggestions, comments
or any bug report.

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Re: [Ankur-core] [Proposal] Changing the assignment of ZWNJ in Probhat

2007-05-09 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain


 [`]  ZWJ
 [\] ZWNJ


+1

I agree with reasoning of Dipankarda and Runa regarding hasanta.

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] [Proposal] Changing the assignment of ZWNJ in Probhat

2007-05-08 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 4/25/07, Deepayan Sarkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW, why is hasanta / and not \ ?


Since, usability is the main issue, I also agree with Deepayan on relocation

of 'hasant'.   [ \ ] intuitaviely resembles more like actual hasanta than
current [ / ].

Moreover, It seems that people want both ZWJ and ZWNJ in non-shift
charracters.

so I suggest

[ ` ]  = ZWJ( like roof... both under the same roof  ...
JOINER)
[ / ]  = ZWNJ  ( like wall...a wall between them ... NON-JOINER)
[ \ ]  = HASANTA( Closely resembles actual hasanta...)

:-)

As it could be a major upgrade for Probhat layout, it would be nice
if people post their other concerns/comments/usability issues that they
might have!!

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Ankur's English to Bengali Dictionary

2007-05-07 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 5/6/07, das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 3. I usually use Probhat, with my Ubuntu keyboard set like this,
 'Ctrl-Shift' changes the keyboard from English to Bangla or Bangla to
 English. Within the Bangla definition itself, at times, one may have to
 write some English characters or words, but, I don't know, it maybe my
 OS behaving that way, but within the text field my 'Ctrl-Shift' is not
 working. I cannot go to English within the field. Can this be changed?



Please press [ESC]!   Its written inside the 'help' near typing area!!



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[Ankur-core] Ankur's English to Bengali Dictionary

2007-05-06 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi all,

I have updated the interface of Ankur's E2B dictionary with Murshed's
really nice BN Web tool. So now people can contribute new Bengali
word without changing his/her keyboard layout and it should just work :-)

http://www.bengalinux.org/cgi-bin/abhidhan/bdict.pl

So please feel free to test it and post any suggestions that you
may have.

In April 2007, for first time Ankur E2B dictionary has reached
five digit hits  (11,927) per month. Of late, Google ranks it
very highly for relevant terms and of course Google ranking
is the main reason for the surge.

Now, I would like to put a issue for discussion. Does  use of
Google AdSense  would make any sense? What are
the main moral/legal issues for/against it?  Please feel
free to share your frank opinions!!

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] [Proposal] Changing the assignment of ZWNJ in Probhat

2007-04-25 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 4/25/07, Deepayan Sarkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ZWJ is no longer of any use (it was only used for khanda ta; Bengali
 doesn't have the concept of half-consonants, no matter what some
 people think). It should be removed if it was there.

It seems, I can't write র‍্য (RA-Japhala)  without using ZWJ in my feisty box.
Can someone shed some light on latest convention for
Reph-Ra-Japhala typing issue?

Thanks in advance..

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Anubadok online: PO file translations

2007-03-07 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain

On 3/7/07, mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 So until temproary file storing is implemented,




will it take long?



Fortunately not.  It is FIXED.  So now you can upload
a partially translated file and download the complete file
instead of only untranslated messages of original file.

Cheers,
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[Ankur-core] Anubadok online: PO file translations

2007-03-06 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain

Hi,

With due thanks to all who have made suggestions for an
online interface for PO file translations, I am happy to
announce the test launch :-) of Anubadok's PO file translation
interface. So please feel free to hammer it with PO file and me with
bugs :-)

http://www.bengalinux.org/cgi-bin/anubadok/po/index.pl

Please note an extra /po in the URL. This interface is
right now very basic. So feel free to throw your suggestions
for future improvements.

Cheers,
Golam


On 3/4/07, Deepayan Sarkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



This reminds me of something I have been meaning to ask: would it be
hard to set up a server (similar to the current Anubadok Online
interface) that translates uploaded POT files? It could be very
helpful, especially for new translators.

Deepayan

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Re: [Ankur-core] [Ankur-kde-translation] translation

2007-03-04 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi Subhodip,

On 3/4/07, Subhodip Biswas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 .if possible you can visit this site
 www.dgplug.org.

Hmmm!! I just visited the website. Frankly,  its really heartening
to see the acitivity of Durgapur Linux users. Keep it up!!

Cheers,
Golam

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[Ankur-core] Fwd: [Padma] Release 0.4.10

2006-12-19 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
...so its official now!! Anandabazar Patrika is now readable
in Firefox with Padma extension. Please note, update from the
browser (if you have it already) may still point to version 0.4.9 for
next couple of days. Meanwhile you can get the it directly
from the Padma website.

Cheers,
Golam


-- Forwarded message --
From: Nagarjuna Venna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Dec 19, 2006 10:52 AM
Subject: [Padma] Release 0.4.10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


...is now available from http://padma.mozdev.org. The highlights of
this release are:

1. Support for fonts used by Ananda Bazar Patrika (Bengali)
2. Support for MLBW-TTRevathi and Kalakaumudi fonts (Malayalam)

ABP support has some known issues but works pretty well. Many thanks
to Golam and Anvar for contributing the code.

Regards,
Nagarjuna
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[Ankur-core] Ankur's English to Bengali dictionary:: Usage statistics

2006-12-15 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi,

I am happy to share with you some statistics for Ankur's
E2B dictionary page access  :-) The traffic has increased
reasonably fast in last few months.  For a detailed summary,
please visit the the page (static)

http://gravity.psu.edu/~hossain/bdict-report.htm

Since its launch, the users have contributed more than
1800 entries to the database. More than a thousand have
already made to the main dictionary. I hope to clear the
backlog soon. Interestingly, the almost 2/3 of the contributions
have come through Anubadok interface. It seems to me that
people prefer to contribute more if their contributions are
immediately visible:-)

So I have upgraded the dictionary interface. Now the
contributions through dictionary interface, are also
immediately accessible (optionally).

Jamilbhai, your online PO file translation interface on its way :-)
However, I need (and hope) to find sometime for upgrading
the Anubadok backend :-(

If you have any suggestions, comments, please feel
free to post.

Cheers,
Golam

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Re: [Ankur-core] Anubadok frontend

2006-10-18 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
  On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 05:05:47PM +0530, Kushal Das wrote:
   Wrote a very small PyGTK based frontend for anubadok.
   http://freeshell.in/~kushal/eng2beng-0.1.tar.gz

Hmm!! Screenshot ? :-)

Thanks!
Golam

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[Ankur-core] Bengalinux.org

2006-10-17 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi,

It seems, something is not right with the domain name www.bengalinux.org.
Currently somehow its not working. Although direct access of
ankur's SourceForge pages seems to be working fine.

Any clue?

Golam

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[Ankur-core] Padma for Anandabazar

2006-10-13 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi!

Its almost ready!!  Nagarjuna (Padma's owner) has
made necessary modification in Padma to accommodate
Bengali and it should be available from its official site soon.

Meanwhile, you can get it from

http://www.imsc.res.in/~golam/padma-with-bn.xpi

However please read this first :-) I am asking you to test above for
two reasons. Firstly, you can let me know if I have missed
any conjuncts or something else is wrong!

Secondly and crucially, there is a rendering issue specially for ABP.
So, if any expert on Firefox/ Unicode/Javascript can throw me
some solution for it.

In my understanding the problem is the following

It seems ABP sometime uses three different fonts even to
construct a single word.
The first font provides all alphabets, some conjuncts and the
second, third provide mainly conjuncts. This leads to matra
for conjuncts (from 2nd and 3rd fonts) to not appear properly.
It seems to me,  this is happening because of the presence of
font/font tag inside a single word. It essentially separates
matras from the letter and so blocking proper rendering!!

So...please feel free to post your comments, suggestions!!


Cheers
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Re: [Ankur-core] Anubadok Online

2006-09-25 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 9/25/06, mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's good to see the dream taking shape towards being true :)

:-)

 msg The amount of text entered is more than allowed at a time /msg
 what is the allowed limit ?

Right now, it is set to just 500 characters but there are no technical
reasons for it being so.  It would be good, if you could suggest some
other number!

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Re: [Ankur-core] Anubadok Online

2006-09-25 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 9/25/06, Deepayan Sarkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 500 is too little. Isn't there some constraint imposed by the tagger
 (or was that the old non-free one)?


Yep!!  TreeTagger had constraint on maximum amount of data to be
processed at a time but that too was quite high. I think it was
almost megabytes of text data (xml-ed, so actual text is less than that)!

So whats your suggestion? Should it be roughly equal to few paragraphs?

Thanks
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Re: [Ankur-core] Anubadok Online

2006-09-25 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
 Well, larger is always better.

OK, its increased by an order of magnitude i.e. its now
5000 characters :-)  I may increase it further once it becomes
stable.

Golam

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[Ankur-core] Anubadok Online

2006-09-24 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi,

Yes! Its online now :-) Thanks to Deepayan, MAK, Jamilbhai and others
for sharing their ideas and dreams !

http://www.bengalinux.org/cgi-bin/anubadok/index.pl

As usual, there should be some new bugs, crash...etc. So
it would be great to get your feedback. Also, its kind of
test-run of online interface. So if you have some other ideas,
dreams then feel free share those as well!

Right now, online interface is not capable of  handling
translation from something like new_words.list that
is available in the offline client. However, that's in my
TODO list and should be available in near future.
Then this interface will also contribute to Ankur's
 English to Bengali dictionary :-)

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] khanda-t in ODT Varying with OS

2006-09-19 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 9/19/06, dipankar das [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The 'Shift-8' keystroke for 'khanda-ta' is not working at all in Ubuntu 6.06
 for 'Solaiman-Lipi'.

I can confirm this.

 I did not check it for other fonts though.

But it works fine with Ekushey fonts. So may be the version
of SolaimanLipi that we have, is not updated for Khanda-ta yet.

Golam

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Re: [Ankur-core] Indic Printing in Mozilla

2006-09-09 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 9/9/06, Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It works!!
 http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings/2006/09/09/indic-printing-it-works-in-mozilla/

 :-)

Thats really cool! Sayam, do you expect it will make
it to the mainstream soon? I mean compiled with those
config options that you have mentioned.

Cheers
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Re: [Ankur-core] Bengali support in Padma extention?

2006-09-09 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 9/8/06, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 May I know the list of supported fonts? :-)

Just having support for Anandabazar Patrika
suffices my current need :-)). It seems ABP
itself uses three fonts

Aabpbengali
Aabpbengalix
Aabpbengalixx

So above three will be definiely supported :-). The
way Padma works, you can add as many
mapping (font) you wish. Since I am mostly done
with base files for Bengali then adding another font
support would be like adding a new file containing
the mapping for the font like..

yourfont.vowel_A   = \u00xx
yourfont.vowel_AA = \u00xy

and you are done with your font!! Also, you can
add little script in it for some font-specific
preprocessing, if needed.

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Bengali support in Padma extention?

2006-09-08 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Do you have any idea what is the character inside
the marked region of the screenshot

http://www.imsc.res.in/~golam/abp-firefox1.jpg

Padma seems to be working great for reading
Anandabazar Patrika in Firefox.  I am yet to enter
all the conjuncts but still its mostly readable.

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Bengali support in Padma extention?

2006-09-08 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 9/8/06, Deepayan Sarkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/8/06, Golam Mortuza Hossain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Do you have any idea what is the character inside
  the marked region of the screenshot
 
  http://www.imsc.res.in/~golam/abp-firefox1.jpg

 Could be 00DE or 00FE

Thanks a lot! It was 00FE. I could get rid of that
rather easily. Now it looks really clean :-)

Golam

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Re: [Ankur-core] Bengali support in Padma extention?

2006-09-07 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 9/6/06, Omi Azad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you want to go, I can give you the
 database.


Good!! but do you have it in the form.. like

Aabpbengali.consnt_KA = \u00XX ?

Meanwhile, I could get it to show Bengali script through
an ugly hack! I ( substituted Devanagari codepoints by
Bengali and face=Jagran by Aabpbengali:-).

Tanmoy: If you are reading this, then can u please tell me
an easy way to convert your aabpbengali.pm to
something like above?

Thanks
Golam

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[Ankur-core] Bengali support in Padma extention?

2006-09-06 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi,

Is there anyone working on adding Bengali support
(at least ABP :-)) in Padma mozilla plugin?

padma.mozdev.org

(Essentially converts XX - Unicode on-the-fly)

Since we already know (thanks to Tanmoy's converter
script) the mapping, it shouldn't be very difficult to add
bn support, I guess!!

Any other thoughts?

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Bengali support in Padma extention?

2006-09-06 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 9/6/06, Omi Azad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did you see that the plug-in makes FireFox freeze for a while if you
 visit any corresponding site?

I just tried
www.jagran.com (Dainik Jagaran)
with the latest 0.4.7. It seems fine.
I mean, I couldn't see  any appreciable
freeze out.

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Anubadok

2006-08-18 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 8/18/06, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am very bad in spelling... :-P
:-))
OK!  Its updated now (except words with Khanda ta and
some spelling that I couldn't confirm myself without
a dictionary :-))

Hello SM M M! can you please check whether your contributions
are updated now?

Cheers
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Re: [Ankur-core] Anubadok

2006-08-16 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 8/16/06, S M Mahbub Murshed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 How long does it take to update a word? I submitted some words two/three
 days ago but its still missing.

First of all, thank you for your contributions to E2b dictionary!

Ideally it shouldn't take more than a day or two. However, at present
it hasn't been updated for last two weeks and its due to my own
lack of access to a machine with proper Bengali support ;-(
Though I am hoping to have it soon.

Sorry for the delay! Hope you will continue contributing to it.

Meanwhile, Jamil-bhai can you help me out by going through
(editing, spell...) current bdict.contrib.db? You can send me
the final file. I can update it without seeing them.

Thanks and Cheers.
Golam

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Re: [Ankur-core] Contributions to online English to Bengali Dictionary at Ankur

2006-07-30 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 7/30/06, mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doneexpecting সমালোচনা ;)

Thanks MAK for the posting. Its a good one!

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Re: [Ankur-core] Contributions to online English to Bengali Dictionary at Ankur

2006-07-28 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
So there are three suggestions!! We can go for
all them!

(1) Jamil ::
   I think we can also announce it to other mailing lists

Jamil bhai, Can you please do so :-)

(2) Deepayan ::
  You might also consider submitting a story about it at
  http://bn.shunya.in

May be, MAK will be able to help us here?

(3) Anirban ::
 May i suggest adding an entry to internet directory of Google.

I have just submitted to dmoz.org for inclusion.

Cheers
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Re: [Ankur-core] Ankur's Dictionary project

2006-06-18 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 6/16/06, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IIRC we had 3 PO files containing the common
 technical terms. Are those terms included in
 Anubadok's database? If not, can you add
 them soon?

All three of them are now added and updated!
commonwords.po was added last year itself.

  Great! I will take the source and setup before next camp.

I will be off to my home till mid-July with somehow
erratic net connection :-)  However, you can download
it from here...

http://www.imsc.res.in/~golam/abhidhan-0.1.tar.bz2

it has the latest database with installation instructions
for the English to Bengali dictionary.

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Ankur's Dictionary project

2006-06-18 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 6/18/06, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Can you install it at http://www.bengalinux.org/cgi-bin/ ? :-)


Yeah! but I don't have access to the site :-). Anyway,
its not difficult. So please feel free to go ahead
and install it there, at least for testing :-)

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Ankur's Dictionary project

2006-06-15 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 6/15/06, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 IIRC we had 3 PO files containing the common
 technical terms. Are those terms included in
 Anubadok's database? If not,
 can you add them soon?

As far as I remember Progga had sent me
one Ankur's commonwords.po.  In any case,
please send me those files. I will surely
add them asap, if they have new entries in them.


 Another issue. While searching if any word
 is not found, can u put add or  suggest
 button? So people can submit translation.
 Those will be in a  seperate db. You can verify
  and merge them with the original Anubadok's db.
 :)

Hmm.. that's a great idea. I will try to implement
it by tonight. Hopefully, I will learn little bit of
http POST as well :-)

Yeah!! definitely!  the localization camp like the
one you, MAK, Munir and others organized at
IICT, BUET can greatly contribute to the Ankur's
dictionary project also, along with PO translations.

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[Ankur-core] [annunce] Anubadok 0.1 beta: First official release

2006-06-11 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi all,

As usual its available from
http://www.imsc.res.in/~golam/anubadok/

Alternately, you may try Google(Anubadok) or even
Google(অনুবাদক) :-)

Here goes the release note...

It started little more than a year from now. Within this
time-frame and given my own constraints and limitations, it is
heartening to announce its first official release.


Few key features of the first official release:


  * For the first time the number of entries in Anubadok's
English-to-Bengali dictionary has gone to five-figure.
This number currently stands at 10,128.


  * Anubadok now completely supports free gposttl tagger
along with the restricted treetagger. Further, it
includes some error correcting codes for some known
tagging errors of gposttl. This also means that one
can expect a little higher translation accuracy
while using gposttl than treetagger.


  * Anubadok now has an improved proper noun handling
mechanism. For example, it can now recognise pattern
like Bay of Bengal as a single proper noun and will
translate as bangopsagor instead banglar
upsagor. Although it can recognise such pattern
but for the translation to proceed, it needs to have a
corresponding entry (bay.of.bengal) in its E2B
dictionary. Otherwise, Anubadok will use a fall-back
mechanism and will translate the same as usual.
Nevertheless, it will report for the entry through
new_words.list.

  * Documentation has been slightly improved. Though, it
needs more works.

  * English sentence splitter for complex sentences:
This is lacking ever since Anubadok was born but
recently I have started working on it. The version
0.1 itself has some code in it. This will be the
main area of thrust for anubadok-0.2 which is
available as cvs version.


  * Anubadok-0.1 does not have any dedicated program for
Wikipedia translation but one can use anubadok or
english2bangla scripts for generic translations.
However, anubadok-0.2-cvs now includes wiki_anubadok
for translation of wiki text (a script wikiget is
included in the package for fetching wiki articles in
text format. You just need to give the title of an
English article.).

-

Lastly, I thought of having a my own balance sheet of how
much I could and couldn't do in last one year, mainly using
the pre-release versions of Anubadok (its also sort of
beating my own drum :-)). In last few months, I have
translated more than six thousands PO strings in KDE. I am
sure, I would have gone no way near to that without using
it. So to conclude, though Anubadok still has a long way to go
but its current performance with the given amount of codes
in it, is certainly encouraging for the future of Bengali
Machine translation.

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Fwd: http://bn.shunya.in - call for Bangla contributions and moderators

2006-05-31 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi Baishampayan!

If no one objects then I would like to propose your name
as a moderator of bn.shunya.in. You can begin after
mid-June. Hopefully, by then your academic workload
will come down to normal :-)

Hey! Congratulations! on being selected for Google SOC
2006. Your project is indeed a very nice and cool one.
I think, your project not only applies to the not
connected to the Internet PCs but also to those
which are CONNECTED but through dial-up.
So I hope, you will give us something hot in
near future!

Cheers,
Golam


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 Hello bengalinux users,

 http://bn.shunya.in

 It doesn't exist yet, but wants to :)

 Shunya is a tech news site similar to slashdot, but India-centric.
 There's already a Hindi version, http://hi.shunya.in, up and running.

 This would be a good platform to publish free software news, related
 to bengalinux and other projects, *in Bangla*. The Bangla version
 would be independent of and parallel to the English version
 (http://en.shunya.in) and therefore would also help in attracting more
 contributors to Bangla l10n and i18n projects, as well as increase the
 Bangla user base.

 The Shunya webaster is looking for moderators who could volunteer to
 moderate the Bangla stories - it's not much work - just five minutes
 or so every day at three hour intervals to look up and clear the
 moderation queue. And the only qualifications for this job are good
 Bangla and a nose for tech news.

 More details are available at the http://en.shunya.in website and the
 webmaster is open to suggestions - in fact, thrives on them.

 You may reply to this email or send feedback
 http://en.shunya.in/account/feedback directly to the webmaster to know
 more.

 Your suggestions and comments are welcome. Looking forward to an
 active and vibrant Bangla users community on শূন্য় .

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Re: [Ankur-core] Article on FOSS in Bangla

2006-05-24 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain

Hi Omi,

Its a nice article and with a quite provocative title!
Did you do the typesetting yourself or they did it?
Did you use OO or something else for your own
typing?

Cheers,
Golam


On 5/24/06, Omi Azad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello All,
Recently I wrote about FOSS in Weekly Ekattor Magazine.

If you are interested to know about FOSS, you can read the article by 
downloading the PDF from http://www.ekushey.org/files/ICT_Report-FOSS-9th.pdf .

Please note that the article is in Bangla. :)

Thanks
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[Ankur-core] GPoSTTL - an open-source alternative for TreeTagger

2006-05-19 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain

Hi,

Its an announcement for the 'official' release of  GPoSTTL.
GPoSTTL has been developed as an open-source alternative for
TreeTagger, a Penn Treebank parts-of-speech tagger and a
crucial component of Anubadok.  With this availability
Anubadok's non-GPL dependence is OPTIONAL from now.
I should thank Progga for FreeBSD patches and Prof. Y. Someya
for permitting the use of his lemma list.

GPoSTTL is available from

http://www.imsc.res.in/~golam/gposttl/;

GPoSTTL is derived from Brill's tagger which is a rule-based
tagger unlike TreeTagger which is a statistical tagger.
Being open-source, it is possible to add new verbs like blog
in its database quite easily, but that is not
possible for TreeTagger. Naturally, TreeTagger's performance
goes down while translating PO files as they contain many
such new terms.

So even though performance wise, TreeTagger is rated
slightly higher than Brills tagger but in my experience
(using with po_anubadok) difference isn't significant.
Moreover, GPoSTTL is less than one tenth in size of
TreeTagger. Recently, I have switched to GPoSTTL while
using po_anubadok.

Further, while digging through it, I realized that its possible
to improve current tagging method of GPoSTTL. So any of
you are interested in getting your hand dirty with NLP stuff
then it could be a nice playground!

Please mind that it is a parts-of-speech tagger for English.
So having a smart open-source tagger would be greatly
helpful for any machine translator that aims to translate
from English to XX. Further, it could be a crucial component
for futuristic Grammar correcting program for any English
word processor.

Please feel free to use, comment...

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Re: Bangla software for Linux ?

2006-05-09 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain

On 5/7/06, Hafis Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,
 Do you know of any freeware/shareware etc. bangla text
editors/word processors that work on linux like Redhat Linux ?


If you are using GNOME desktop then try gedit and
for KDE please try kate.  For office-suite please try
out the latest OpenOffice. These are quite good applications
for multipurpose Bengali text processing. BTW, these
come bundled with any standard Linux distro. So you
may not need to install them.


 Any suggestions on how to get me in a position to
write bangla documents and bangla websites without
 using the MS Windows OS ?


Its rather easy. Following documents will be of help to
you.

http://www.bengalinux.org/new/content/category/5/14/26/

If you have further query, please feel free to post. Also, you
should mention the desktop, you are using.

Cheers
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Re: [Ankur-core] How to test a new Bengali font?

2006-05-08 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain

On 5/7/06, Shaheed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


By Bangla Literary Archive, do you mean
www.boipara.com?


May be not! Please try out this one.

http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~deepayan/Bengali/WebPage/Archive/archive.bn.html

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Re: [Ankur-core] Re: shortcut key combinations

2006-04-28 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 4/28/06, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But we are not sticking only with KDE and
 GNOME. What will be for Fedora Core, Mandriva,
 SUSE, Ubuntu, Debian, OOo, Mozilla, Gaim etc?
 :-)

I feel and believe that we should follow the same
standard wherever possible. However, in this case
problems seem to be due to the technical reasons.
As pointed out by Runa that in GNOME bn shortcuts
are non-functional. On the other hand Progga is
quite happy with bn shortcuts in KDE.

So if it is GNOME specific problem (surely,
it can be there somewhere else as well) then I
would like to suggest that we should try
to figure what exactly goes wrong with Bengali
shortcuts there? Is it fixable? BTW, I am no GNOME
expert. So my opinion can be pretty naive here.

Personally, I think that use of EN shortcuts is at best
a short term solution to the problem and certainly
it is NOT going to be a long term solution. See the
discussion in the mail from Omi.
http://www.mail-archive.com/bengalinux-core@lists.sourceforge.net/msg01069.html
It seems Bengali keyboards are already in
(keeping aside the layout issue).

So the original argument by Taneem following
Indranil's proposal for the use of BN shortcuts
is even more relevant today.


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Re: [Ankur-core] Re: shortcut key combinations

2006-04-28 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain

On 4/28/06, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Progga is also using BN shortcuts in GNOME.
IIRC he is using GNOME on FreeBSD.

 So if it is GNOME specific problem (surely,
 it can be there somewhere else as well) then I
 would like to suggest that we should try
 to figure what exactly goes wrong with Bengali
 shortcuts there? Is it fixable? BTW, I am no GNOME
 expert. So my opinion can be pretty naive here.

Currently I have access to a Ubuntu Dapper box.
BN shortcuts are working in GNOME.



OK! I just did a test myself. My access machine runs
GNOME in Debian Sarge. I was testing with Firefox.
My keyboard switching combination is SHIFT+SHIFT
[ setxkbmap -rules xfree86 -symbols
en_US(pc104)+ben(probhat)+group(shift_toggle) ]

It works FINE both with EN and BN shortcuts.

Then I did a re-run of the test with a new keyboard
switching combination CTRL+SHIFT.
[ setxkbmap -rules xfree86 -symbols
en_US(pc104)+ben(probhat)+group(ctrl_shift_toggle) ]

It works for some but does not work for all shortcuts. This
happens with both EN and BN shortcuts.

I may be wrong but it seems to me that CTRL+SHIFT
switching is potentially problematic. For example:
suppose we need to press CTRL+KHA then (with probhat)
we need to press CTRL+SHIFT+k. Please note that
this combination can be a conflicting combination
with the keyboard switching.

Please feel free to add your opinion.

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] Re: shortcut key combinations

2006-04-27 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 4/27/06, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ??
:-))

I guess, its because of GMail's infamous encoding bug.
See .. Message text garbled? options in GMail for more.
In any case, I am enclosing my last mail in default encoding
this time.
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On 4/26/06, Deepayan Sarkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In other words, I think it's perfectly acceptable to
 have different policies for different desktops.

I agree. I think, it makes sense. If I am not wrong then
shortcuts are used by people whose geekiness is
considerably high :-) Also, such users are generally
hooked to a particular desktop of their choice and certainly
dont switch between desktops every morning. So it is OK
and desirable (if needed) to have different policies for
KDE and GNOME shortcuts.

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Re: [Ankur-core] Prize money for Ubuntu Translations

2006-04-10 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 4/10/06, Ershad Shafi Chowdhury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After discussion with Jamil, we have decided to
 encourage translators by offering cash incentives.

Is it Ubuntu specific? Or is it also applicable to Kubuntu?
In any case, it sounds encouraging. Hope, Bengali in
ubuntu will have greater support because of your efforts!


Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] announcement: BOCRA - an OCR software for Bangla etc.

2006-04-06 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi,

I would like to ask one question. During OCR operation (assuming
I have already trained it) what should one do if there is an
illustration (non-text element) in the scanned image?

For example, it is pretty common to have pictures of King/Queen
within the text in History books.


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Re: [Ankur-core] Bangla Sorting

2006-03-30 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 3/30/06, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is manually sorted alphabetically acording to
 Bangla dictionary.

 According to sort  its not sorted :-) Following should
be the correct ordering
-
গায়ানা
গুয়াতেমালা
গ্রিস
গ্রেট বৃটেন
-
instead of
-
গায়ানা
গ্রেট বৃটেন
গ্রিস
গুয়াতেমালা
---

Cheers,
Golam


[Ankur-core] Re: want to work for bengalinux.org

2006-03-19 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 3/16/06, rayhun rashid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello there
 i want to work for bengalinux.org,

You are welcome! Given there are many areas where
you can contribute, its better that you decide where you
will prefer to work.  Nevertheless, you can always
contribute by translating stuffs alongside your own
interests. Specially Bengali KDE needs major help
from translators.

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] need help

2006-02-19 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 2/18/06, saeed hassan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi,
  i am a regular computer user.i use XP on my pc.but i am
  interested  in linux.
  i heard that linux is safe to use for internet.i have got many troubles
 with worms and trojans using internet.
  can u advise which linux distribution is best for me?

In my (biased) opinion  Mandriva (aka Mandrake)!!

If you are willing (and wont mind!) to setup multimedia stuffs
by your own then I would recommend (K)ubuntu!  In any
case you can use Bengali interface along with English.

You haven't mentioned whether you use dialup or broadband
connection. In case, you are on dialup then check your modem
whether it has linux driver!!

  what about GNOME and  KDE?are  they linux distributions?

No! They are desktop environment. They come in bundle with
almost all linux  distributions.

  can i run SAS SPSS S-PLUS FORTRAN in linux?

I can confirm FORTRAN but for rest I don't even know what
are these!

  ps: i live in  dhaka,bangladesh.there are not many
 linux distributions available in the market.

Anyone from Dhaka? knows about any place? maybe
BDLUG member can help!

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Re: [Ankur-core] Computing in BENGALI

2006-02-19 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 2/18/06, Taskinoor Hasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i have a dream that our PC is running in Bengali,
 from the setup of OS to the shut down. can u give
  me a suggestion? what things should i learn to
 work?

Welcome dreamer :-) I think, all major Linux
distributions have already started to support Bengali
form setup of OS to the shutdown!! But the support
is not yet complete and for that obviously one needs
people like you!  If you are willing to contribute then
for having a broad idea regarding your goal, please
 visit Ankur's website

   http://www.bengalinux.org

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Re: [off-list] Re: [Ankur-core] Computing in BENGALI

2006-02-19 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 2/20/06, Progga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You have forgot to CC Mr. Taskinoor and Mr. Saeed Hasan :-(

Oops!! I have just forwarded those mails to them :-) Thanks!

Cheers,
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Re: [Ankur-core] My Name in volunteer list

2006-01-27 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 1/27/06, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Both of your names are included now. :)

Thanks! :-)


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Re: [Ankur-core] My Name in volunteer list

2006-01-24 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hmm!!
I think, its a nice moment to put a request for my name as well :-)

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Re: [Ankur-core] The 'r-a' problem

2006-01-05 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
In continuation of my last mail, it seems for PDF files it is even simpler.
One needs to  run

  pdfbook -2 input.pdf output.pdf


You may need to download pdfbook, if you don't have it already.

Cheers,


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Re: [Ankur-core] bengali utf-8 font

2005-12-11 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 12/8/05, ashok rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear sir,

No sir please, there are Madam too :-).
I think, its best to say Friends.

 Kindly refer or send the bengali utf-8 fonts

Please visit these links

http://www.nongnu.org/freebangfont/


http://www.omicronlab.com/avrokeyboard/bangla-fonts/

The above site includes fonts from the previous one.

http://www.ekushey.org/projects/otf_bangla_fonts/

I hope, these will serve your purpose.
You can also try Google.

Cheers,
Golam


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Re: [Ankur-core] Anubadok: status report

2005-09-19 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Thanks indeed !! I had planned to have 0.1 beta by now 
but it seems, life too had some different plan for me :-)
Honestly, I was down badly, and yet to be fully up! But
I think, now I am near to that :-) Hope, this weekend I
can give sometime to it nearly after three months. Another
thing, if you are translating some words in new_words.list file,
,then please feel free to send me the bdict.new.db file when
you are done. I can then merge it with the main E2B dictionary.
I think, its words count now stands above 6K, courtesy Progga.

Thanks,


  

On 9/19/05, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was trying today to convert debian-installers POT  file and the output was 
 simply amazing! 
 Great work! Please keep it  up. :-) 
   
 `Jamil


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Re: SPAM-LOW: [Ankur-core] Thunderbird -- BanglarBird

2005-07-02 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 7/2/05, Omi Azad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It should be BaazPaakhi...

Yep!! It sounds really cool !!  :-)


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Re: [Ankur-core] Updated Probhat layout for unicode 4.1

2005-06-26 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 6/26/05, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Long time ago, I informed Taneem bhai about this.
  http://www.bengalinux.org/images/probhat_layout.png
  Khanda-Ta is added on AE08 replacing *

Hi, Has it been merged with XFree86 distribution ? 
In my machine (few months old Sarge), the probhat
layout still doesn't have daandi ( key AB09 is still period).
It was disappointing:-(

cheers,


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Re: [Ankur-core] Updated Probhat layout for unicode 4.1

2005-06-26 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 6/26/05, Jamil Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why don't u hack urself and update? :-)
 Or should I provide you the correct one?

Thanks!!  I think its also there somewhere in Ankur webpage.
Factually, I am not the root of my machine (and don't like to
reboot the machine either :-)).  Also, so far I haven't bother
our sys-ad to do that.  Sometime its more pleasurable to
work in a less privileged world :-))

cheers


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Re: [Ankur-core] Use of TreeTagger for Anubadok and its licence

2005-06-17 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 6/17/05, Deepayan Sarkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If I send you a PO file with a few messages, would you
  be willing to run them through Anubadok?

Yep!! Plz. send me the file.  I just need to run 
$ po_anubadok your_file.po(t).  
It takes few seconds. For example, I just tried translating 
gnome-blog.HEAD.pot . It contains 60 msgid. time
output is  
real0m12.975s
user0m4.330s
sys 0m0.460s
in my P4, 2.2GHz,256M machine). BTW, I am not claiming that all
of them were correct translation !!! But thats the part of life. I mean
trial n error :-)

cheers,
golam


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[Ankur-core] Use of TreeTagger for Anubadok and its licence

2005-06-15 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi,

This post is regarding some license issues for the use
of TreeTagger with the translator Anubadok. Prof. Helmut
Schmid (creator of TreeTagger) has granted a license allowing
me to integrate and distribute the TreeTagger as a component of
Anubadok. The use of it, is free for free translations of
free stuffs :-). So I have made a tar-ball of necessary
files (6.9M) with a simpler (relatively) installer script and is
available for download. Please note that it does not include
Anubadok itself rather it's just for tree-tagger-english.


Frankly, he has given me more rights than I had
asked for. However, its a non-GPL license. The parts-of-speech
tagger is a core requirement for any natural language
processing (NLP) software. Unfortunately, there aren't many
such tools available under GPL (even for English!!) which can
be readily used by other programs.

For last two weeks, I was mainly hacking through
LPost which is based on Brill's rule-based-tagger, written in C
and available under GPL. However, it didn't have any in-built
tokenizer (something that understand that in the sentence
Mr. Sayamindu is writing his examination., the dot at the end
of Mr. is not really the end of sentence but the dot at the end
of examination. really is :-)) Also it didn't have the
lemmatizer (something that tells that the base form of ate is
eat). In fact this was the crucial drawback (specially for a
translator of Sanskrit based language where it is essential to
know the root verb). Nevertheless, its measured tagging accuracy
(for Wall Street Journal corpus) is reasonably high. It is around
91% whereas TreeTagger (uses probabilistic algorithm) accuracy is
around 93%.

  So after two weeks of hacking (sometime I felt that
it may be easier to write a new one than to understand someone
else C program :-)), its new avatar is now fitted with tokenizer
and lemmatizer and can be used as drop-in substitute for
TreeTagger. Although, it has slightly less accuracy but it has
great advantages. Like, you can easily train it for newer verbs like
download whereas you can't do it yourself for treetagger as
its database comes in binary. Also, its around 0.67M compared
to 6.9M for treetagger. I will release it both as C and Perl
API and most likely it will be integrated with Anubadok
to make it stand-alone GPL software.

 Unfortunately, I really couldn't give any time for
Anubadok itself, apart from some bug-fixing. The tagger itself
took almost all of my free time for last two weeks. I hope,
I can now switch the mode. Now I will do bug-fixing for tagger and
coding for Anubadok :-) BTW, if any of you have used Anubadok and
have some suggestions for improvements, please let me know.


Cheers,
golam


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[Ankur-core] Ankur dictionary project and anubadok

2005-05-29 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Friends,

This post is regarding the ankur's Bengali Dictionary
Project. In particular, how it may be possible to put the
dictionary project back on track and how anubadok can
become an useful tool in making it so.

Undoubtedly (at least for me), a successful dictionary
project is one of the core requirements for having a meaningful
Bengali language support. I think, it is true for any language.

I understand that it is mainly a data-entry job, so its
kind of boring :-)). In such situation, it is rather suggestive
that we make it more spicy or make it a by product of something
else that is not so boring :-). First of all, many (almost all)
of the volunteers here, actively participate in translating the
POT files. Here, I would like suggest that one can use
po_anubadok for doing the data-entry job. When one runs it for
the first time for a given pot file, it creates new_words.list.
Then one needs to translate these words and run the program
again. One can subsequently edit the po file. Let me emphasize
that this process involves much less typing compared to
translating a pot file by hand. Also, in its current avatar,
po_anubadok can perform fairly well for pot files. This is
mainly due to the fact that the strings those appear in 
PO files are generally much simpler in their sentence 
structure.

So, to summarize this point, if you use the translator
for translating the pot file then the EVERY SINGLE WORD
THAT YOU TRANSLATE, SERVES DUAL PURPOSES. 
Firstly, you are translating your PO file and at the same 
time you are contributing to the dictionary project as a 
by product.


Secondly, the volunteers who are involved with
the Bengali Wikipedia (translating/creating ), are also potential
users who can contribute significantly to the Bengali
dictionary project and again as by product. I am right now
trying to find out what are the technical requirements for a
reasonable wiki_anubadok. So if you have any suggestion in this
regard, please feel free to post. It will be quite helpful for me.

I am inviting a discussion on the above suggestions
from you all,  specially from the current lead(s) of dictionary
project to post comments, criticism, further suggestions...

Cheers,
golam


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Re: [Ankur-core] An idea and the attempt

2005-05-16 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 5/16/05, Kaushik Ghose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, no, it is just a list of bangla words (mostly) corrected for spelling

Thanks. 
So!  it has to be built from the scratch :-(

On the second issue, I need to fix the conventions.
For example, what should be the proper translation for You do
1) bn aapni koren /bn
OR
2) bn aapni korun /bn ?

I am slightly confused.

There are few more but I will put up a list of them later. 

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
golam


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[Ankur-core] An idea and the attempt

2005-05-15 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Friends,
 For last few weeks, I have been experimenting with an
idea of a machine translator
for Bengali. The main motivation was to deal with the PO files such
that the machine translator
will do the data-entry job. The volunteers need to do only the editing
job. It can speed up
the translation job considerably.  However, I now feel that its
possible to reach beyond PO
file translator. We can have a much better machine translator. This
can be a useful tool
in translating the contents of Wikipedia.


I am making available the development version of the
program. There are two
strong reasons for doing it even though it has to go a long way to
reach its goal.

First reason is the LOW word counts in its Eng2Ben dictionary. I know,
its boring job.
I have tried to spice it up little bit. You can directly feed a html page 
(say from news.bbc) to the program. It will  generate a translated
html page and a
list of new words for you. For few sites, you may need to change charset info
to utf-8 manually (it makes prelim. attempt.) for proper viewing
through a browser.

Secondly, I need to fix the conventions for translations
of basic phrases.
For example, what should be the proper translation for You do   
1) bn aapni koren /bn
OR
2) bn aapni korun /bn

Obviously, you may have some interesting suggestion as well.

You can download it from my page.

http://www.imsc.res.in/~golam/anubadok/

Hope to hear you.   
  
Cheers,
golam


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Re: [Ankur-core] An idea and the attempt

2005-05-15 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
On 5/16/05, Kaushik Ghose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are you releasing it under GPL (The page does not say so  - at least not
 where I looked)?

Yep. It says so in the first paragraph of its first page.

 The (currently hibernating) bangla dictionary project on ankur has a
 large word list (from Barda, Abhijit Das) that you may be able to use.
 

I am not sure.  Can you please tell me whether they are in pair form
(a English word and the corresponding Bengali word)?

Cheers,
golam


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