Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-11-07 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi all, On 07/11/2022 10:53, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Hi *, just a few thoughts, since I seem to be mentioned in the email. ;) Paolo Vecchi wrote: On 05/11/2022 00:04, Stephan Ficht wrote: Sorry, Simon, but IMHO I don't think this is the right wording. PI and, if there are, resulting CoI's

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-11-07 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi *, just a few thoughts, since I seem to be mentioned in the email. ;) Paolo Vecchi wrote: > On 05/11/2022 00:04, Stephan Ficht wrote: > > Sorry, Simon, but IMHO I don't think this is the right wording. > > PI and, if there are, resulting CoI's are clearly defined and written > > down in all

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-11-06 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Stephan, thank you for your comments. It's good to see that we have staff members that are actively participating in discussion to help improving processes within TDF. On 05/11/2022 00:04, Stephan Ficht wrote: Hi Simon, Am 31.10.22 um 01:38 schrieb Simon Phipps: I would suggest you

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-11-04 Thread Stephan Ficht
Hi Simon, Am 31.10.22 um 01:38 schrieb Simon Phipps: I would suggest you "look down the telescope the other way" and ask what the Board's actions (or rather the lack of them) tell us about the existence of a CoI. With regard to PI/CoI (personal interest / conflict of interest) it's an

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-31 Thread sophi
Hi Simon, Le 31/10/2022 à 12:21, Simon Phipps a écrit : Hi! On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 11:06 AM sophi wrote: Plus, not all TDF members are on tdf-internal. Are all TDF Trustees on board-discuss then? Do you have statistics to clarify this please? Did I say that all TDF members are on

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-31 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Michael, all, Am 31.10.22 um 12:07 schrieb Michael Stahl: hi Andreas, On 29.10.22 22:07, Andreas Mantke wrote: In additon: I reviewed the whole process about sending a project to the attic again. The proposal for the process seemed to neutral text, but it was only written and voted on for

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-31 Thread Simon Phipps
Hi! On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 11:06 AM sophi wrote: > Plus, not all TDF members are on tdf-internal. > Are all TDF Trustees on board-discuss then? Do you have statistics to clarify this please? Forcing divisive discussions to be held in public chills contributions from people whose employers

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-31 Thread Michael Stahl
hi Andreas, On 29.10.22 22:07, Andreas Mantke wrote: In additon: I reviewed the whole process about sending a project to the attic again. The proposal for the process seemed to neutral text, but it was only written and voted on for one subproject: LOOL. The only four members, which participated

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-31 Thread sophi
Hi all, Le 31/10/2022 à 11:33, Andreas Mantke a écrit : Hi, Am 31.10.22 um 01:18 schrieb Cor Nouws: Hi, Andreas Mantke wrote on 29/10/2022 22:07: [...]> Then, some details really deserve attention on tdf-internal@, that is open to all members. I'll continue there. It would be great to

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-31 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi, Am 31.10.22 um 01:18 schrieb Cor Nouws: Hi, Andreas Mantke wrote on 29/10/2022 22:07: 7. Status Report, Discuss: Atticization of Online (tdf-board, 10 mins) ... because there are four board members with a direct link to the product Collabora Online (staff of Collabora Productivity or

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-31 Thread Stephan Ficht
Hi Thorsten, Am 31.10.22 um 10:48 schrieb Thorsten Behrens: Stephan Ficht wrote: Regarding the email below, is there a need for any updates or information that needs to be shared publicly prior to the board meeting? on Oct 31? I believe Italo answered meanwhile? Ok. So the information was

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-31 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Stephan, Stephan Ficht wrote: > Regarding the email below, is there a need for any updates or information > that needs to be shared publicly prior to the board meeting? on Oct 31? > I believe Italo answered meanwhile? Best, -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-31 Thread Stephan Ficht
Hi Thorsten, My answer to the first part below of your email (2022-10-30/14:57) related to my post on board-discuss@ ((2022-10-30/12:24): Am 30.10.22 um 14:57 schrieb Thorsten Behrens: Am 30.10.22 um 12:24 Stephan Ficht wrote: @Andreas: I think your point of view is an interesting and

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-31 Thread Stephan Ficht
Good morning Thorsten, Regarding the email below, is there a need for any updates or information that needs to be shared publicly prior to the board meeting? on Oct 31? Cheers Stephan Am 28.10.22 um 18:57 schrieb Simon Phipps: Is the paper from Italo mentioned for discussion in Item 6

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-30 Thread Simon Phipps
Hi Stephan! OK, one more reply (against my better judgement!) On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 7:52 PM Stephan Ficht < stephan.fi...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > > Am 30.10.22 um 18:51 schrieb Simon Phipps: > > In particular the wording of section 2 could lead a reader to the wrong > > conclusions.

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-30 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Andreas Mantke wrote on 29/10/2022 22:07: 7. Status Report, Discuss: Atticization of Online (tdf-board, 10 mins) ... because there are four board members with a direct link to the product Collabora Online (staff of Collabora Productivity or staff/owner of Allotropia, which has a contract

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-30 Thread Stephan Ficht
Hi Simon, Am 30.10.22 um 18:51 schrieb Simon Phipps: In particular the wording of section 2 could lead a reader to the wrong conclusions. Everyone can read there [1]: "A personal interest is not identical to, but tends to qualify as a Conflict of Interest when it *can* result in improper

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-30 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi all, hi Simon, and also sorry for another post to correct misleading statements. Am 30.10.22 um 18:51 schrieb Simon Phipps: Hi Andreas, (and sorry for a second post here today all) On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM Andreas Mantke wrote: sorry for beeing a bit undiplomatic on this

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-30 Thread Simon Phipps
Hi Andreas, (and sorry for a second post here today all) On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 12:40 PM Andreas Mantke wrote: > sorry for beeing a bit undiplomatic on this topic. But your statements > are not in accordance with the CoI policy of TDF. > The TDF policy

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-30 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi all, hi Simon, Am 30.10.22 um 13:16 schrieb Simon Phipps: (...) If you have a look into the statutes of TDF you'll find out  that it is necessary that at least the half of the board could attend the meeting. The half of the board are four members. Thus the board is not

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-30 Thread Simon Phipps
Hi Andreas, all. So sorry to have to keep repeating this, but the error it relates to is still being repeated without regard to my earlier explanations. On Sat, Oct 29, 2022 at 9:07 PM Andreas Mantke wrote: > If board members (with a CoI themselves on this topic) think, another > board member

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-30 Thread Stephan Ficht
Hi Andreas, all, dear board members, @Andreas: I think your point of view is an interesting and logical way to look at this point. I am asking to know each director's opinion on this. Then we can discuss it and everyone can form an informed opinion. Am 29.10.22 um 22:07 schrieb Andreas

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-30 Thread Paolo Vecchi
Hi Andreas, thank you for you valuable feedback. As I've been under investigation for potential personal interests on LOOL, by potentially conflicted members of the board, for a few months I will refrain from influencing the discussion and until the investigation is over to vote on any

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-29 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi all, Am 28.10.22 um 17:05 schrieb Stephan Ficht: Dear Community, find below the agenda for our TDF board meeting with a public part, and followed by a private part on Monday, October 31 at 1800 Berlin time at https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard For time zone conversion, see e.g.

Re: [board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-28 Thread Simon Phipps
Is the paper from Italo mentioned for discussion in Item 6 available for trustees to review as well please? Thanks Simon On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 4:05 PM Stephan Ficht < stephan.fi...@documentfoundation.org> wrote: > Dear Community, > > find below the agenda for our > > TDF board meeting with a

[board-discuss] Agenda for TDF board meeting on Monday, October 31st at 1800 Berlin time (UTC+1)

2022-10-28 Thread Stephan Ficht
Dear Community, find below the agenda for our TDF board meeting with a public part, and followed by a private part on Monday, October 31 at 1800 Berlin time at https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard For time zone conversion, see e.g.