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Let's hope not!
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From: Steve Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 5:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
dBase and Sybase both thought
On 4/28/01, Dave Watts penned:
No, I don't think they're purposely trying to get out of anything. I think
they're pursuing the share of the market that makes the most sense for them
to gain, from their perspective. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised
if they spent a disproportionate amount
On 4/28/01, Dave Watts penned:
So, are you suggesting that the Allaire arm of MM should:
1. discharge everybody providing development and tech support services for
CF,
2. not pay any of those people,
3. fund further development and support from the sales of their ubiquitous
desktop OS (oh, wait
You make good points, but in your opponent's favor, the bottom line is that some folks
are always going to just be
trendily contrarian. Maybe those people can afford the extra thousands of $$ for the
new license (which, again,
has NO MORE FEATURES than the less costly Enterprise version)? Or,
I think that if we had purchased Spectra at its price tag and then learned
that there would not be future releases (and that some of its components
would be in CF 5.0 at a lesser cost than Spectra), then we would be more
The only Spectra 'component' in CF5 is cfdump. The plans are to move
We also have about 80% of our sites on shared servers, while the other 20%
are mainly ColdFusion dedicated servers.
It is smaller development companies like ours that could potentially be
affected by the changes to the hosting licensing.
BUT WAIT... Maybe we won't have to change our plans and
It would be a rare (read myopic) company indeed that didn't admit it
received some very important insights about its business, including which
business it should be in, from its customers.
Go back and re-read Drucker's book on, was it called Marketing and
Innovation ?
best, paul
At 10:46
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To: CF-Talk
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I think that if we had purchased Spectra at its price tag and then learned
that there would not be future releases (and that some of its components
would be in CF 5.0 at a lesser cost than
Message-
From: Chris Colón [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 4:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
You make good points, but in your opponent's favor, the bottom line is that
some folks are always going to just be
trendily contrarian. Maybe
: Angél Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
OUCH!
I don't care if they lower pricing..but the one thing I like about CF is
being able to host multiple apps from one server with no worries
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
OUCH!
I don't care if they lower pricing..but the one thing I like about CF is
being able to host multiple apps from one server with no worries about Per
use, or Per application.
If we have
How many sites can you possibly host with CF on a server for $8.00 a month?
Neil
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From: Varando Family [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Well, to this I can honestly
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From: Steve Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
We have already been told by Allaire sales reps that there will substantial
price
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From: John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 10:40 AM
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Steve,
Excellent points. Might I also add that some of us ISPs are actually web
development shops and hosting
Perhaps I didn't read things quite correctly, but doesn't this development
work in favor of those small developers who put a box somewhere and go into
the business hosting the apps they develop?
And doesn't this development also mean the financial barriers have been
raised for a customer to
On 4/28/01, Paul Smith penned:
Perhaps I didn't read things quite correctly, but doesn't this development
work in favor of those small developers who put a box somewhere and go into
the business hosting the apps they develop?
I am basically such a developer. I may have 2 clients with access to
You have to remember, MM wants to make money, not necessarily
provide a better development environment for us. This can be
achieved by bringing CF down to the point a general HTML
developer can create a viable application.
Two points:
1. You can take out MM from the above sentence, and
i don't think figleaf is a CF-only shop.
autobytel is more or less a CF-only shop (i worked there for
a year and a half) but they're not in the business of hosting
applications for 3rd parties.
my guess is this *probably* doesn't adversely affect the core
business of either.
No, the
My point was that the way I read it, you can run as many apps as you want
on a CFPro 5 box, as long as you developed them.
Did I read the FAQ wrong?
best, paul
At 02:13 PM 4/28/01 -0400, you wrote:
On 4/28/01, Paul Smith penned:
Perhaps I didn't read things quite correctly, but doesn't this
Anyone interested in writing a new SAMS book: Teach your
coldfusion developers PHP in 5 hours?
No - because it'd be too hard. On the other hand, you could easily write a
book teaching PHP developers CF in 5 hours. That's why CF is worth paying
for, I suppose.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf
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From: Bud [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
On 4/28/01, Paul Smith penned:
Perhaps I didn't read things quite correctly, but doesn't this
development
work in favor
You have to remember, MM wants to make money, not necessarily
provide a better development environment for us. This can be
achieved by bringing CF down to the point a general HTML
developer can create a viable application.
Two points:
1. You can take out MM from the above sentence,
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From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
i don't think figleaf is a CF-only shop.
autobytel is more or less a CF-only shop (i worked there for
a year
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From: Jim McAtee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 9:10 PM
So, you're saying Macromedia is _purposely_ trying to get out of being an
application server for low-end, shared hosting? And they're doing this by
making it prohibitively expensive for
So, you're saying Macromedia is _purposely_ trying to get out
of being an application server for low-end, shared hosting? And
they're doing this by making it prohibitively expensive for
hosting providers. I think you're onto something.
No, I don't think they're purposely trying to get out
As I keep saying - look what happened to Netscape Navigator
vis a vis Internet Explorer - Netscape's entire business model
collapsed it seems because IE was bundled and free. The same
applies to CF v ASP and to a lesser extent PHP.
I'm not sure what lesson can be drawn from this. CF isn't
2. CF, in my opinion, is at the point at which a general
HTML developer can create a viable application, with just
a little bit of knowledge. That's been one of the greatest
strengths of CF since its creation. It doesn't require
significant programming experience to get started.
- Original Message -
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 9:51 PM
I'm not sure what lesson can be drawn from this. CF isn't free, because some
company, with employees and stockholders, makes it. ASP isn't free, in any
meaningful sense, either - just try
PHP is free because it doesn't come from a company, and
there are no employees and stockholders to satisfy.
That is of no importance to developers and application
hosters. Linux is fundamentally free, but is now offered
pre-installed by the likes of Dell, Compaq and IBM such is
its
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
PHP is free because it doesn't come from a company, and
there are no employees and stockholders to satisfy.
That is of no importance to developers and application
hosters. Linux is fundamentally free, but is now offered
pre-installed by the likes
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From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 10:48 PM
It may be of no importance to application hosters (if by that you mean
essentially ISPs who will host whatever they can host as cheaply as
possible), but I'd argue that developers, and
On the enterprise side of things, is anyone using PHP for enterprise-wide
applications? If not, why not?
Not only because I don't do enterprise-wide applications but also because
scalability in PHP is very limited, no support for cluster etc...
PHP is a very nice and still young tool, that is
I am sorry, but I am actually sure you are overestimating the amount of
people that buy Ultradev for its abilities to write CFML. The vast majority
of Ultradev users are ASP developers, I would say more than 80%, I don't
have exact numbers, but I use Ultradev since its early days, even before is
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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 2:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Anyone interested in writing a new SAMS book: Teach your
coldfusion developers PHP in 5 hours?
No - because it'd be too hard. On the other hand, you could easily write a
book teaching PHP
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 4:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
So, you're saying Macromedia is _purposely_ trying to get out
of being an application server for low-end, shared hosting
It may be of no importance to application hosters (if by
that you mean essentially ISPs who will host whatever they
can host as cheaply as possible), but I'd argue that
developers, and people using applications, may care very
much about who to call when they have trouble.
What I
the living
daylights out of the stuff.
later,
- Steve
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 4:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
As I keep saying - look what happened to Netscape Navigator
vis a vis Internet
When you go by a brand new car, do you trust the dealer to
tell you that it is reliable and you will save money. No, of
course not. You ask them to show you proof and you get
independent reporting. But here you are saying that we should
trust Allaire to save us money because they know
Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 10:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
It may be of no importance to application hosters (if by
that you mean essentially ISPs who will host whatever they
can host as cheaply
What MM should release an enterprise server version for the
product for $695 with no support. If you want support buy an
annual contract. Would you rather sell 10 copies at $695 with
no support or 1 copy at $6,000?
Well, if I'm paying a little per-copy to Netegrity, some more to Verity,
In case you hadn't noticed, there's been a slight economic
downturn, and the web development skills market is probably
near-saturated right now.
If that is the case, why is Allaire selling out every
conference and almost
every tech class they hold.
And if this is the case then how
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
1. You can take out MM from the above sentence, and replace it with any
publicly-held company. That's the job of companies. Not to provide a better
development environment, not to make the world a better place, but to make
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Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 4:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
As I keep saying - look what happened to Netscape Navigator
vis a vis Internet Explorer - Netscape's entire business model
collapsed it seems because IE was bundled and free
:54 PM
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
What MM should release an enterprise server version for the
product for $695 with no support. If you want support buy an
annual contract. Would you rather sell 10 copies at $695 with
no support or 1 copy at $6,000?
Well, if I'm paying
, 2001 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
I take offense to that statement. No one says that Allaire shouldn't be
able to eat dinner. I shouldn't have to suffer under some new licensing
model. I made a commitment to the product (albeit 4.0 and 4.5, doubtfully
5.x). In order
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From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
All I can say is, lets wait and see what the price change is. I can't see
CFHosting saying that every customer has to fork up
Please leave me alone now. The future is games!
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From: Paul Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
It sounds like MM is going to throw the CF community a bone and then stick
us in the pound. They kill Spectra
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Sent: 27 April 2001 06:21
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Was this announcement sent to *all* A/MM Partners? I didn't see it. Can
someone who received it shoot me a copy, please?
Thanks.
Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Development Consulting http
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From: Adrian Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
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From: Paul Sizemore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 9:57 PM
I think we should look at the original post again and calm down a bit.
Notice how they say Hosting Service Providers? They're not
talking about me
with my 3 domains on a machine. They're not talking about you
with your 2 or
whatever domains on your machine. They're talking about
Correct..especially for Off Shore development such as what I do here in
Trinidad.
Our net connections can't support an INternational Website, so we HAVE to
host on shared servers abroad like Hostpro.net or CFHOSTING etc.
If the COST of hosting on a CF Enabled server goes up..why the heck would
YES!!
He ssss the light!
-Gel
www.carigamer.com
ISLAND GAMING AT ITS BEST!(tm)
hee hee
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From: Peter Tilbrook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Please leave me alone now. The future is games!
~~
Structure your
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From: Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:27 AM
Yes - having been in the Internet industry in Britain ever since there was one -
I founded one of the first fully national ISP's - I can certainly endorse the
comments of Aidan.
What few
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 April 2001 12:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
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From: Aidan Whitehall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:27 AM
Yes - having been in the Internet
prices for the RAD environments and the rich tools that they can provide to
develop applications.
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From: James Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 7:00 AM
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Well, personally I
And we'll all continue to develop in CFS 4.5...
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From: Tracy Bost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 April 2001 13:25
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
MacroMedia/Allaire should know that a Server Side Application Server like
Cold Fusion can't
I think I'm a partner, but I didn't get it. I believe it was sent to the
hosting partners only.
Was this announcement sent to *all* A/MM Partners? I didn't see it. Can
someone who received it shoot me a copy, please?
Thanks.
Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web Development
If the UK or other non-US ISPs talked to A/MM, maybe individual deals could
be made. If I was at A/MM I'd talk to ISPs on a per company basis and for
some wave the fee for a time to 'help get them on their feet'. ISP building
is great in the long run but may cost a little in licensing in the
One of the main strengths of CF has always been its developer community.
MANY, MANY improvements came from them. I wonder how MM quantifies
Developer Community and Developer Community Good Will in its
cost/benefit analysis whose goal is to maximize profits.
best, paul
At 05:15 PM 4/26/01
The first thing that sprang to mind when I read this was...
Macromedia don't even have a partner program of any sort. At least
not available here in Australia.
So that could indicate that there isn't much of a 'Developer
Community' within Macromedia!
One of the main strengths of CF has
At 09:48 AM 4/27/01, you wrote:
Michael,
If the UK or other non-US ISPs talked to A/MM, maybe individual deals could
be made. If I was at A/MM I'd talk to ISPs on a per company basis and for
some wave the fee for a time to 'help get them on their feet'. ISP building
is great in the long run
MM could be positioning CF upmarket, abandoning the low-end web apps to
PHP, open source platforms, and ASP, and targetting primarily, exclusively
the corps, not the hosting services, knowing MM can´t run a business
competing with free open source software, and the equally free MS security
I really can't see A/MM abandoning us. Think about it, every author (with
the exception of a few that they have in house) are in the low end. Every
person who runs a community site is in the low end. With very few
exceptions, every person who made CF what it is today is in the low end.
They HAVE
MM could be positioning CF upmarket, abandoning the low-end
web apps to
PHP, open source platforms, and ASP, and targetting
primarily, exclusively
the corps, not the hosting services, knowing MM can´t run a business
competing with free open source software, and the equally
free MS
think we just need to see the details before we all jump to conclusions.
Everything we've seen says that MM has a true commitment to CF.
Dave
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From: Len Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 7:27 AM
Subject: RE: New CF5
At 07:27 AM 4/27/01, you wrote:
Len,
I certainly can't fault them on principle if this is their
approach.. Whether or not this is a valid revenue model remains to be
seen. From my perspective (which is different than most g), each
developer needs to decide whether this fits THEIR business
Don't panic yet. I believe a FAQ is in the works that will explain all this.
Stay tuned.
--- Ben Forta
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From: Zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
MM could be positioning CF
Let me preface this by saying that it isn't meant as a comment about
Macromedia but is a general comment
They HAVE to know that abandoning us (and yes, I'm definitely
in the low end
as well) will only result in the death of CF.
Publicly held software companies are beholden to their
At 01:35 PM 4/27/01, you wrote:
Yet ??? gg
Don't panic yet. I believe a FAQ is in the works that will explain all this.
that's good news...
~~
Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at
And where would that leave smaller developers?
If the smaller developers aren´t worth their cost of sales, then, yes ...
Out in the cold
and you don´t make significant money selling CF software, but from your
CF apps and support contract revenue, none of which goes back to MM.
Of
License
Don't panic yet. I believe a FAQ is in the works that will explain all this.
Stay tuned.
--- Ben Forta
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From: Zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
MM could be positioning
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From: Angél Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:16 PM
Correct..especially for Off Shore development such as what I do here in
Trinidad.
Our net connections can't support an INternational Website, so we HAVE to
host on shared servers
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From: Ben Forta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 6:35 PM
Don't panic yet. I believe a FAQ is in the works that will explain all this.
Stay tuned.
Well I hope they publish it quickly.
I hear that Amazon are suddenly doing a roaring trade in teach
I agree, they also recently changed the price for Generator making it quite
affordable and now available for multiple domains as well...
I would wait to see every details of the new price policy before making any
comment.
Macromedia's move on Generator actually goes on the opposite direction,
As I hit SEND I wondered how long it would be until someone responded with
that. g
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From: Hans Omli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Do let us know when the FAQ is ready so we
unless you go out of business or lose your religion.
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From: Len Conrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
And where would that leave smaller developers?
If the smaller developers
Len Conrad wrote:
And where would that leave smaller developers?
If the smaller developers aren´t worth their cost of sales, then, yes
As has been mentioned before, I don't think that most companies factor in
the value of small developers into their cost benefit analysis
Out in the
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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Let me preface this by saying that it isn't meant as a comment about
Macromedia but is a general comment
They HAVE to know that abandoning us (and yes, I'm definitely
in the low end
as well
Unfortunately, I will be moving most of my apps to ASP PHP. These are free and easy
to setup.
I love CF, except for the cost.
-- Original Message --
From: Adrian Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:30:44
Don't panic yet. I believe a FAQ is in the works that will explain all
this.
Stay tuned.
Ahh, but will the FAQ arrive before we all spend the weekend planning our
alternatives? :)
~~
Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the
Anyone interested in writing a new SAMS book: Teach your coldfusion
developers PHP in 5 hours?
Sorry, I couldn't resist the urge.
John
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject:Re: New CF5
I'm sorry I don't have full word on this story... I'm mostly a clientside
guy trying to learn more about the field. From what I read it sounds like
there will be an announcement on Monday, and certain partners who host
others got a bit of advance word this week.
I'd echo Michael and Ben, about
-
From: Zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Len Conrad wrote:
And where would that leave smaller developers?
If the smaller developers aren´t worth their cost of sales, then, yes
.
As has been
While I could be wrong on this, I don't think I am. Relax. We'll see
how it
goes, but jumping to conclusions and thinking that we have to do the
unimaginable (going to asp or perl) is not needed. ColdFusion will
be here
for us and I think that A/MM will see us for what we are, an asset
to
From: Akbar Pasha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
is there any book called PHP by April30th?? ;)
Ha!
just wondering...does
PHP run on windows?? coz if it comes to that i dont want to go for ASP
/
Zend: http://www.zend.com/
Apache: http://httpd.apache.org/
MySQL: http://www.mysql.com/
Steve
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From: Akbar Pasha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
is there any book called PHP
on windows?? coz if it comes to that i dont want to go for ASP.
i was planning to do something like CFhosting, sortabut dang!!! my
other friend was right...
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From: Zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5
'is there any book called PHP by April30th??' - lol
A couple folks have asked for it, so here's the text of the announcement that hosting
partners received yesterday
(apologies if my Netscape Communicator email program parses the line feeds weirdly):
-
Dear Partner,
On April 30, 2001,
Cheer up, things could be worse. So I cheered up, and sure enough things
got worse. g
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From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Don't panic yet. I believe a FAQ
financially) are adept
in multiple languages.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 12:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Don't panic yet. I believe a FAQ is in the works that will explain all
this.
Stay
Probably not until the 30th, or it wouldn't answer the most important
question...price.
That's Monday for you Yahoo's.
jon
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From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
is there any book called PHP by April30th?? ;) just wondering...does
PHP run on windows?? coz if it comes to that i dont want to go for ASP.
i was planning to do something like CFhosting, sorta
some
of those same folks now work at Allaire/Macromedia.
Cheers!
- Steve
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From: Zac [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Let me preface this by saying that it isn't meant
I just had a couple of thoughts to throw around here. Ok, one. ;p
While it's probably premature to be talking about these things when we
don't even have the real info yet, It's aways good to be prepared...
Before CF was available on Linux, there were at least two efforts to
create an open
Hosting License
As I hit SEND I wondered how long it would be until someone responded with
that. g
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From: Hans Omli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Do let us know when the FAQ
Ahh, but will the FAQ arrive before we all spend the weekend planning
our alternatives? :)
I remember the CF community not being too excited about Allaire raising the
price of CF a couple times in the past several years. But we're all still
here developing with CF. And Allaire has even
One of these days someone will come up with a CF - ASP.NET or CF- PHP code
converter, which simply converts CF templates to the new target code.
That is the day when MM will need to worry!
p.s. - there isn't such a thing is there?
Adrian Cooper.
I am trying to find the Zope by May 1
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Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:51:38 -0700
'is there any book called PHP by April30th??' - lol
A couple folks have asked
2:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New CF5 Partner Hosting License
Heh. I agree, but I doubt that'll be the case. At the end of the
announcement was this bit:
In an effort to help our Hosting Partners take advantage of the upcoming
demand for ColdFusion 5 features,
Macromedia will be providing
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