Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-19 Thread RevCOAL
-Caveat Lector- From: Xxx Yyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyway, it will be up to the religious leaders to make sure that members of their congregations work at keeping the religious component alive in their personal lives and not depend on the larger community to do their work for them. It will be up

Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-19 Thread Xxx Yyy
-Caveat Lector- June, thanks for the background information on the separation of celebrations. No doubt that Winter Holidays are extremely enjoyable. The only difference between then and now is that the heavy hand of mass communication has already relegated the religious component to the

Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-19 Thread RevCOAL
-Caveat Lector- From: Xxx Yyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] June, thanks for the background information on the separation of celebrations. No doubt that Winter Holidays are extremely enjoyable. The only difference between then and now is that the heavy hand of mass communication has already relegated the

Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-19 Thread Xxx Yyy
-Caveat Lector- Even given that the details you give may be correct June though, the fact that there is a time similarity between a solstice celebration and Christmas doesn't mean that there has been no history of Christmas celebrations over the last 2,000 years. The holiday was kept alive by

Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-19 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Xxx Yyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America? -Caveat Lector- Even given that the details you give may be correct June she *is*

Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-19 Thread Xxx Yyy
In a message dated 12/19/01 4:22:17 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is a ridiculous arrogant statement to make. the celebration of the turn of winter works on a very basic, instinctive level. it is a festival that has reason to be always there. religions of all kinds will

Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-19 Thread c.
- Original Message - From: Xxx Yyy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America? A festival formed at a basic instinctive level. Just how do you celebrate that in your home?

Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-19 Thread Xxx Yyy
In a message dated 12/19/01 4:56:25 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A festival formed at a basic instinctive level. Just how do you celebrate that in your home? And with what community do you share this festival? the cause for celebration is at a basic instinctive level.

Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-19 Thread RevCOAL
-Caveat Lector- From: Xxx Yyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even given that the details you give may be correct Don't take my word for it, study it for yourself -- it's documented historical fact. the fact that there is a time similarity between a solstice celebration and Christmas doesn't mean that

Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-19 Thread RevCOAL
-Caveat Lector- From: Xxx Yyy As I stated that I am Jewish, are you implying it was because of the sins of the Jews that the crucifixion took place (not very nice on your part) or is it that you don't read carefully? Supposedly Christ died for the sins of ALL humanity, not just for the

Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-19 Thread Xxx Yyy
June, I dislike being put in the position of defending Christian history, but I've learned that charming but simplistic understandings of the culture of others is foolish. I would suggest you go to the Catholic Encyclopedia to learn Catholic history. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03724b.htm

Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-18 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/18/01 1:38:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's as if Scrooge has been institutionalized. It is not hyperbole to observe that in many (if not most) American homes, Harry Potter is more popular than the Christ-child is. A lot of

Re: [CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-18 Thread Xxx Yyy
-Caveat Lector- Many years ago when there was broadcasting from the Soviet Union that was beamed out of Cuba and could be heard on an am station, I heard how Winter Holidays were celebrated in the Soviet Union. It seems everything was the same as here except there was no religious component.

[CTRL] Is This the End of Christmas in America?

2001-12-17 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Is This the End of Christmas in America? By Chuck Baldwin December 18, 2001 All across America, Christmas is being expunged. In spite of the events of three months ago, there is little room for