Re: Detectable cash notes a fantasy

2002-04-09 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Tim May wrote: Physics-wise, it's a jiveass fantasy. No way are there micro-strips readable from a distance in today's currency, and very likely not in the next 20 years. (I don't dispute that a careful lab setup could maybe read a note at a few meters, in a

Re: all about transferable off-line ecash (Re: Brands off-line tech)

2002-04-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Adam Back wrote: You don't need the minter's secret key to identify the double-spender. Anyone who happens to see two coin transcripts answering different challenges with the same coin private key can recover all the attributes of the coin, including the identity

RE: Detectable cash notes a fantasy

2002-04-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Eugen Leitl wrote: The tags are passive. All tags (whether inductive or electrostatic) must be energized from the outside. The pumping energy can be shielded, as can the RF emission of the tags itself. The environment is noisy. The tags send simultaneously from the

Re: all about transferable off-line ecash (Re: Brands off-line tech)

2002-04-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Adam Back wrote: Is there anything specific PKILAB have said about Brands certs? No, it was early in the set up when it was discussed. Sounds like they want to at least listen to him :-) btw I did a google search for PKILAB and Brands to see if I could find anything

Re: overcoming ecash deployment problems (Re: all about transferable off-line ecash)

2002-04-11 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Adam Back wrote: Well I also am pretty anti-patent, especially the xor-cursor and business process kind, but at least these ecash patents are not frivolous patents (well Chaum's RSA blinding online scheme may look pretty simple once you've seen it but Brands stuff is

Re: How do we trust bits?

2002-04-11 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote: Changing trust to believe advances the discussion not one whit. Alice trusts Bob to sign keys accurately; Alice believes that Bob signs keys accurately. The change doesn't add anything. In fact if anything it's a step backwards. Trust is a

Re: Got carried away...

2002-04-30 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Neil Johnson wrote: I made a sign for a friend who had recently purchased a Vette. It said please ignore, this car is just a AMC Pacer with a REALLY GOOD paint job. You gotta be old enough to remember the pacer for that to make sense tho :-) I hope it was big

Re: No Fly List abuse by U.S. Government

2002-05-02 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 1 May 2002, Tim May wrote: According to The Progressive, which I assume is the same outfit that published the H-bomb plans, a bunch of activists were blocked from yup. I was there :-) traveling to D.C. for a protest march. More than just a couple, in fact. This looks like

Re: Testing..

2002-05-23 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 22 May 2002, Steve Furlong wrote: No problem --- I was just waxing my bikini line. (This disgusting mental image courtesy of the Janet Reno Full Frontal Nudity Collection.) (That disgusting mental image courtesy of me.) That depends on the gender preference of the reader I think -

Re: Mersenne Twister

2002-05-24 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 24 May 2002, gfgs pedo wrote: hi, Does any 1 have a reference to the actual Mersenne Twister algorithm? Thank u. I've got code posted on the authors web page. Do a web search of Mersenne Twister and you'll get there eventually. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike

Re: MPAA wants all A/D converters to implement copyright protection.

2002-05-24 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 24 May 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: My mind has been boggled, my flabbers have been ghasted. Yes. It is not really possible to put into words just how insane this is is it? I'm gonna try to sit down with a senator's aide who's working on this as soon as possible, I think the guys from

Re: NYT: Techies Now Respect Government

2002-05-26 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sun, 26 May 2002, John Young wrote: Thomas Friedman in the New York Times today: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/26/opinion/26FRIE.html Webbed, Wired and Worried, May 26, 2002 [...] Silicon Valley staunchly opposed the Clipper Chip, which would have given the government a back-door key

Re: Missing pieces?

2002-05-28 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 28 May 2002, Steve Furlong wrote: My senators are Clinton and Schumer. Makes me damn proud to be an American, I tell you. Neither's office has responded to any of my Yeah, that's a grim position to be in. At least my congress critters write back. letters, probably because I didn't

Re: When encryption is also authentication...

2002-05-29 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 29 May 2002, Curt Smith wrote: I agree that under-the-hood encryption is becoming more and more prevalent, and that it generally improves security. Also, the widespread use of encryption technology helps protect cryptorights in general as important to the public good. This is kinda

Re: How can i check the authenticity of a private key

2002-05-31 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 31 May 2002, surinder pal singh makkar wrote: I am a newbie in cryptography. What I have learnt till now is that in assymeric cryptography scenario we have a private key and we generate the public key corresponding to it and then we send it to the central agency. You don't have to

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D

2002-06-03 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Dave Emery wrote: And telling the public that they face serious jail time if they don't turn in that Creative Soundblaster from the old PC in the attic closet isn't going to fly. The sheeple may be sheep but even they aren't going to accept that kind of nonsense

Re: Laurie's blinding w/cut and choose?

2002-06-06 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote: So there you go. A little technical for cypherpunks, but unfortunately coderpunks, like the little old lady, has fallen and it can't get up. A shame really. The math is the best part of it all. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike

Re: Degrees of Freedom vs. Hollywood Control Freaks

2002-06-06 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Jeezum, how old *are* you? We haven't called vacuum tubes 'valves' for some time.. Must get tiresome carting around the Leyden jar condensers for your differential analyzer.. the Brits have been calling tubes valves forever. Just like a

Re: CDR: RE: Sci Journals, authors, internet

2002-06-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Tom wrote: actually, as with most laws, the basic idea behind the moral rights isn't that bad, it just got perverted. if used differently, the morale rights part could well be used to put a limit on the corporate abuse of copyright. for example, I could envision an

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-24 Thread Mike Rosing
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:53:42 -0700 From: Paul Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ross's TCPA paper I would think a TCP _with_ ownership of the TPM would be every paranoid cypherpunk's wet dream. A box which would tell you if it had been tampered with either in hardware or software?

Re: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-27 Thread Mike Rosing
On 27 Jun 2002, David Wagner wrote: No, it's not. Read Ross Anderson's article again. Your analysis misses part of the point. Here's an example of a more problematic vision: you can buy Microsoft Office for $500 and be able to view MS Office documents; or you can refrain from buying it

Re: Diffie-Hellman and MITM

2002-06-27 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Marcel Popescu wrote: Is there a defense against MITM for Diffie-Hellman? Is there another protocol with equivalent properties, with such a defense? (Secure communications between two parties, with no shared secret and no out-of-band abilities, on an insecure network.)

RE: Ross's TCPA paper

2002-06-27 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Lucky Green wrote: David wrote: It's not clear that enabling anti-competitive behavior is good for society. After all, there's a reason we have anti-trust law. Ross Anderson's point -- and it seems to me it's one worth considering -- is that, if there are

Re: DRM will not be legislated

2002-07-09 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 8 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Voluntary DRM can never stop piracy. With voluntary DRM, people can break once on one machine, then run the latest Napster replacement on the every machine on the internet in non DRM mode, and copy that file that was ripped on one machine, to

tcpa paper (fwd)

2002-07-10 Thread Mike Rosing
The academics think that TCPA technology is already solved. I haven't read the whole paper, but y'all might find it interesting. --Begin Forward --- From: Sean Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:18:22 -0400 You know, as long as we're

Re: Finding encrytion algorithm

2002-07-11 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, gfgs pedo wrote: suppose a cryptanalysis only has encrypted data-how is going 2 know which is the encrytion algorithm used 2 encrypt the data ,so that he can effeciently cryptanalyse if 1:he has large amount of cipher text only 2:has large amount of plain text and

Re: Microsoft censors Newsweek - and new version of TCPA FAQ

2002-07-14 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, John Young wrote: The US Dept. of Commerce Technology Administration is inviting the public to make comments for the upcomming Workshop on Digital Entertainment and Rights Management. The workshop will be held on July 17. http://www.ta.doc.gov/comments/comments.htm

Re: Microsoft censors Newsweek - and new version of TCPA FAQ

2002-07-15 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, John Young wrote: The US Dept. of Commerce Technology Administration is inviting the public to make comments for the upcomming Workshop on Digital Entertainment and Rights Management. The workshop will be held on July 17. http://www.ta.doc.gov/comments/comments.htm

Re: Weird trolls from gfs pedo

2002-07-15 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Tim May wrote: For starters, why don't you start writing in standard English? Even if English is not your first or second language, using such cutisms as u for you and any 1 for anyone is much more misleading than using the standard, defined words. Get up on the wrong

Re: Pizza with a credit card

2002-08-01 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Michael Motyka wrote: Quite clearly cash has got to go! I'm not sure how tough this would be to sneak past the slumbering electorate. Pretty tough I expect. But the usage level is certainly going down while the percentage of electronic transactions is skyrocketing. We've

Re: Thanks, Lucky, for helping to kill gnutella

2002-08-09 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Jay Sulzberger wrote: There are many solutions at the level of technical protocols that solve the projection of these problems down to the low dimensional subspace of technical problems. Some of these technical protocols will be part of a full system which accomplishes

Re: TCPA/Palladium -- likely future implications

2002-08-09 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, AARG! Anonymous wrote: : Allow computers separated on the internet to cooperate and share data : and computations such that no one can get access to the data outside : the limitations and rules imposed by the applications. It seems to me that my definition is far more

TCPA ad nauseum

2002-08-09 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, AARG! Anonymous wrote: Of course his analysis is spoiled by an underlying paranoia. So let me ask just one question. How exactly is subversion of the TPM a greater threat than subversion of your PC hardware today? How do you know that Intel or AMD don't already have

Re: dangers of TCPA/palladium

2002-08-11 Thread Mike Rosing
On 11 Aug 2002, David Wagner wrote: Ben Laurie wrote: Mike Rosing wrote: The purpose of TCPA as spec'ed is to remove my control and make the platform trusted to one entity. That entity has the master key to the TPM. Now, if the spec says I can install my own key into the TPM

Re: Seth on TCPA at Defcon/Usenix

2002-08-12 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, AARG! Anonymous wrote: It is clear that software hacking is far from almost trivial and you can't assume that every software-security feature can and will be broken. Anyone doing security had better assume software can and will be broken. That's where you *start*.

Re: Another application for trusted computing

2002-08-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, AARG! Anonymous wrote: Ideally you'd like your agent to truly be autonomous, with its own data, its own code, all protected from the host and other agents. It could even carry a store of electronic cash which it could use to fund its activities on the host machine. It

Re: Seth on TCPA at Defcon/Usenix

2002-08-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, James A. Donald wrote: To me DRM seems possible to the extent that computers themselves are rendered tamper resistant -- that is to say rendered set top boxes not computers, to the extent that unauthorized personnel are prohibited from accessing general purpose

RE: A faster way to factor prime numbers found?

2002-08-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Lucky Green wrote: Gary Jeffers Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: A faster way to factor prime numbers found? A faster way to factor prime numbers found? AFICT, the proposed algorithm is for a test for primality and does not

Re: TCPA not virtualizable during ownership change (Re: Overcoming the potential downside of TCPA)

2002-08-15 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Adam Back wrote: Summary: I think the endorsement key and it's hardware manufacturers certificate is generated at manufacture and is not allowed to be changed. Changing ownership only means (typically) deleting old identities and creating new ones. Are there 2

RE: TCPA hack delay appeal

2002-08-16 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Lucky Green wrote: Hopefully some of those people will not limit themselves to hypothetical attacks against The Spec, but will actually test those supposed attacks on shipping TPMs. Which are readily available in high-end IBM laptops. But doesn't the owner of the box

Re: Cryptographic privacy protection in TCPA

2002-08-17 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, AARG! Anonymous wrote: Here are some more thoughts on how cryptography could be used to enhance user privacy in a system like TCPA. Even if the TCPA group is not receptive to these proposals, it would be useful to have an understanding of the security issues. And the

Re: Shooting cops is an Adrenaline rush.Its also more popular this year.

2002-09-03 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Matthew X wrote: Attacks on police soar By TANYA GILES 04sep02 VIOLENT crime against police is rising: more than 2300 officers were attacked while on duty in one year. Two police were killed in their car by a 27 year old driver in Wisconsin USA last month. No motive

Re: Auditing Source Code for Backdoors

2002-10-22 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 31 Dec 1969, Bill Frantz wrote: I have been asked to audit some source code to see if the programmer inserted a backdoor. (The code processes input from general users, and has access to the bits that control the privilege levels of those users, so backdoors are quite possible.) The

Re: Confiscation of Anti-War Video

2002-10-28 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: In antoher context I've wondered about the possibility of wireless, near-real-time video upload. With 3G this will cetainly be easy, but I'm wondering if there are soft/hard gadgets that can auto-upload stuff.(In addition, 3G looks like it's going to

Re: Jamming (was Confiscation of Sensitive Video)

2002-10-30 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Steve Schear wrote: At 03:35 PM 10/30/2002 +0100, Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of jamming, I've thought for a long time that a portable jamming device would be very nice to have. Something that jammed *all* frequencies, or at least everything from 10 or

OT, but fun: Re: Homing In on Laser Weapons (was Re: US developing untraceable weapons)

2002-11-01 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Steve Schear wrote: Information about the damage such lasers could inflict is classified. But in general, experts say, a 25-kilowatt laser could blind an enemy sensor several hundred miles away. It also could put a hole through a sheet of metal from a distance of several

RE: Intel's LaGrab

2002-11-04 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Lucky Green wrote: Tim wrote: Microsoft calls its technology Palladium. Intel dubs it LaGrande. I say we call it LaGrab. Has anybody on the list seen any official specs, datasheets, etc. for Intel's LaGrande feature set? Any documents that could be donated to

Re: Amsterdam loses electricity, lots of internet service

2002-11-06 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Harmon Seaver wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 04:02:54PM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: Reported on the NANOG list 80% of Amsterdam is without power, one AMS-IX site is without no-break power for an other few weeks, others are running out of UPS capacity. Shit! Holy

Re: New Protection for 802.11

2002-11-07 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, James A. Donald wrote: -- Reading the Wifi report, http://www.weca.net/OpenSection/pdf/Wi- Fi_Protected_Access_Overview.pdf it seems their customers stampeded them and demanded that the security hole be fixed, fixed a damned lot sooner than they intended to fix it.

Re: Photos in transport plane of prisoners: Time for eJazeera?

2002-11-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sat, 9 Nov 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Specific use-cases can be written: the GI who took the picture; the photo-developer-tech who kept copies; the bored netop who intercepted the pix; an activist who is under insert type surveillance. Anyone interested? And what does it mean (if

Re: Photos in transport plane of prisoners: Time for eJazeera?

2002-11-11 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Adam Shostack wrote: A full police state can't prevent anything, it can just make some things less common. For example, samizdat in the USSR still got copied and passed around. Drug use is a problem in US prisons. Etc. that kind of info can be limited by simply

Re: The End of the Golden Age of Crypto

2002-11-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: Damn what a pack of geeks! (Looks like I might end up liking this list!) It's full of nut cases too :-) I have not, however, heretofore considered that there could exist systems that had some form of completeness built in. My intuition (which is

Re: The End of the Golden Age of Crypto

2002-11-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Sam Ritchie wrote: That's the whole deal with the bible, and its various internal contradictions. If anything can be proven true in the bible, then there's no room for faith anymore, which nullifies religious beliefs; and if anything can be proven false, then there's no

Re: The End of the Golden Age of Crypto

2002-11-15 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, [iso-8859-1] Andri Isidoro Fernandes Esteves wrote: The religious person is always battling against reality wich with a minimum of inteligence from the observer always bring doubts on the truth of his faith. It's a state of mind wich can only be compared with mental

Re: (Being able to) sell votes

2002-11-18 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Adam Shostack wrote: Ross Perot demonstrated that you can buy your way into an election now. Maybe we should just admit that that's the case. Could it be worse than the unofficially sold elections and gerrymandered districts we have now? I think it's pretty well

Re: (Being able to) sell votes

2002-11-18 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: Me, I don't like the idea of people actualy selling votes, but I think I like the idea of people BEING ABLE to sell their votes. But then votes are property, and property can be transfered, so you could sell your vote from your will, and dead voters

Re: Secret Court Says U.S. Has Broad Wiretap Powers

2002-11-19 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Sunder wrote: But you forget - the BATF agents were all beeped and informed to not bother to come in to work that day, and instead met up elsewhere, suited up so they could arrive just in time (a few minutes after the boom) to be heroic. That indicates something, what

Re: 17 Cypherpunks subscribers on watch list, Project Lookout

2002-11-20 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Eric Cordian wrote: This of course is not a true tale, but an incredible simulation to make a point. Yeah, it was funny. Not sure what the point was... The earth currently has a population of just slightly over six billion people. This means that a 200 gigabyte drive

RE: OPPOSE THE WAR! We are going to ruin Iraq to get the oil. Who 's ne

2002-11-20 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Vincent Penquerc'h wrote: I just hope that Americans see this, and see that what they're going to get from this behavior isn't world domination, but either a genocide of half the planet, or a life in a bared wire world, with no freedom left, in a vain attempt to protect

DMCA Feedback

2002-11-21 Thread Mike Rosing
There's a few opinionated people on this list, I think :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike -- Forwarded message -- From: MX%[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathon Giffin 20-NOV-2002 18:19:49.35 To: MX%[EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Subj: [PKILAB] [SECRSCH] DMCA Feedback For anyone

Re: TIA presentation

2002-11-23 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sat, 23 Nov 2002, Tim May wrote: Interesting logo/symbol the Information Awareness Office has: the Illuminati-inspired eye in the pyramid looking down on the entire world. And check out the comment at the bottom: A lot of initiatives have been started since 911, but DARPA is in a position

RE: TIA presentation

2002-11-24 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002, Blanc wrote: How sort of amusing it is to read this, from the site: It is not sufficient that we put the pieces together after the fact, it is essential that we understand terrorist plans ahead of time so that we may prevent or preempt. Yeah, it'd be self parody if it

Re: How to Stop Telemarketers...

2002-12-06 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: But I have utilized a stopgap strategy for a number of years now that has worked pretty good: 1) If I hear silence for more than a moment or two I hang up the phone. Yeah, I've done that for a while now. But here in wisconsin (USA) we have a new law

Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S Hotel

2002-12-08 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: Frankly, millions of these fascists need a simple solution: a tree, a horse, and a rope. There aren't enough horses :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike

Re: Akamai

2002-12-09 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Harmon Seaver wrote: Maybe somebody doesn't like the new look on my http://www.oshkoshbygosh.org site. heh, as someone who drives by Oshkosh a few times a year, I think that's a great satire. Good luck staying alive :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike

Re: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures Of Vice President'S Hotel

2002-12-10 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Anonymous wrote: It already has. And the hell with the horses -- tie the other end of the rope to a fast car. That would give a new meaning to drawn and quartered. There's a lot of bureaucrats who need that performed on them. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike

Re: Anonymous blogging

2002-12-11 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Morlock Elloi wrote: Does this vindicate homeopathy ? I thought the rules were you have to have a smily to signify a joke. But I guess on the net there are no rules :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike

RE: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: For the Russians, 'a few' was over 70. I hope for a non-violent restoration - this sort of thing could give the Libertarian Party legs, if they handled it right. Agreed. And they may have not even need to handle it perfectly right, since the main

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Anonymous wrote: Interesting approach. But exactly how does that hinder the FBI demanding a booksellers customer list, or a library's patron check out record, or a black bag job on a personal computer, or thousands of CALEA taps, or the Total Information Awareness

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-13 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Anonymous wrote: Vote? Are you kidding? OK, here is your task. Since all but one member of congress voted FOR the USA PATRIOT ACT, exactly what party or what candidates do you suggest be elected in support of civil liberties in the US? You don't seem to get this. Or on

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-14 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Sarad AV wrote: The Taliban is still very much alive,when troops moved into kabul there were no traces of the taliban.They took what ever they wanted and were 'refugees' sneaking out when the bombing started.They placed what they needed ,every body else needed to

Re: [IP] Dan Gillmor: Accessing a whole new world via multimedia phones (fwd)

2002-12-15 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Steve Furlong wrote: The point was, the content providers aren't providing the entertainment. The daughters are talking (and talking!) to their friends with no help from the big companies other than providing the connectivity. I believe that was Olyzko's point in the

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-16 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Sarad AV wrote: Firstly,they cannot be exterminated.There is no proof of identity as we may have in our countries and no body will ask for it either,since most don't have one. The Taliban would have cut their beard and hair and mixed up with civilian population,while

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-17 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, John Kelsey wrote: The thing that's being missed here is that, if elections can be won by running on a pro-freedom slate, politicians will be found to do that. Note Running and winning are 2 different things. So far most libertarians don't win, but it's slowly changing.

Re: [s-t] olfactory profiling (fwd)

2002-12-17 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Eugen Leitl wrote: Realtime, cheap, reliable, invisible. Hard to fake, especially if combined with other biometrics. Can be as sensitive as a canine, in principle. [...] http://www.eps.gov/spg/USA/USAMC/DAAD19/DAAD19-03-R-0004/SynopsisP.html I would think anyone doing

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-17 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 03:49 PM 12/14/02 -0800, Tim May wrote: PLONK. Hey, maybe Mike was talking about Mr. Booth, not Mr. Lincoln. :-) Tim has given me some motivation to work on an old idea. We'll see if I get any time in the next year to make it happen.

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-18 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Adam Shostack wrote: The Volkh conspiracy blog had this Learned Hand quote recently: I often wonder whether we do not rest our hopes too much upon constitutions, upon laws and upon courts. These are false hopes; believe me, these are false hopes. Liberty lies in the

Re: BigBrotherWare

2002-12-19 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: I just noticed a disclaimer in a t.v. ad for H-P computers. Intended only for lawful uses. at the bottom of the screen towards the end of the commercial. Strange. Why would H-P or any other computer company feel the need to include this

Re: Constant Encrypted Stream

2002-12-21 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Very good, sir. Your next assignment is to read about Mixmaster anonymous remailer networks. Generally sending uniformly-sized (padded or fragmented or noise) blocks at regular intervals is preferable (and equivalent) to your suggestion of

Re: Bruce Schneier hullabaloo

2002-12-21 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Michael Cardenas wrote: I'm not advocating armed rebellion. I'm saying that the current political structures in power have massive political might and are willing to use it to stay in power, as we are witnessing more everyday, and anything that challenges that might will

Re: Constant Encrypted Stream

2002-12-21 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: The moral equivalent of the pre-telegraph French semaphore soldiers doing the macarena... :-) To the tune of I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok. :-) Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike

Re: Bruce Schneier hullabaloo

2002-12-21 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Michael Cardenas wrote: I think that Bruce Schneier's terse comment just illustrates the flippant attitude that lots of geeks have towards politics, and that lots of people have also. Just because geeks know a lot about technology, doesn't mean that they're impervious to

Re: Bruce Schneier hullabaloo

2002-12-21 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Michael Cardenas wrote: Ahh... I meant massive military might. Not a whole lot of difference usually :-) mike

RE: Bruce Schneier hullabaloo

2002-12-21 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Trei, Peter wrote: I think you meant the *Beretta* family, who have been making fine fireams since the 1520's. Yup, my spelling sucks :-) Other really old companies: Stora Enso Oyj of Helsinki, Finland, a paper and board maker, began as a copper mine in central

Re: War for drugs...

2002-12-23 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Sandy Harris wrote: Methinks its more complex than that. I'm surprised to see reports of opium coming out of Afghanistan at all. It's been almost 30 years since you were there, so things have definitly changed! I was there in 1974, before the 1979 Russian invasion.

Re: Correction of AP-CIA Disinfo.

2002-12-23 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, David Howe wrote: It isn't that wildly inaccurate - losing both control rooms would be (and has been on at least one occasion) an absolute nightmare. on that occasion, technicians had to get a five-year batch of radiation in ten minutes by going in, operating *one* valve

Re: Correction of AP-CIA Disinfo.

2002-12-23 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Matthew X wrote: The containment vessel may survive a jet impact but the control room and/or temporary pools of spent fuel lying outside the containment vessel might not survive. A nuclear core without monitored control because everything outside the containment vessel is

Re: Policing Bioterror Research

2002-12-23 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: The main question is - is 1984-type society stable ? It's locally stable, but not globally stable. It eventually has to collapse. All this lamenting about hamstringed sheeple and fascist state does no good if it cannot

Re: CDR: Correction of Mike Rosing Disinfo.

2002-12-23 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Marc de Piolenc wrote: Matthew X wrote: I don't recall a lot of scientific scoffing of the China Syndrome movie when it came out. You obviously didn't read Nuclear News. It was taken as a major joke because it didn't have one thing right in it. When it first came

Re: Quantum Probability and Decision Theory

2002-12-24 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, James A. Donald wrote: On the other hand, our inability to emulate a nematode, or the a portion of the retina, is grounds for concern. This does not indicate that the mystery is QM, but does suggest that there is some mystery -- some special quality either of individual

Re: Correction of AP-CIA Disinfo.

2002-12-24 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Dave Howe wrote: Not sure about Georgia - must be a fairly common problem though as I found a case at Browns Ferry Alabama (1975) where it all went tits up - no radiation That's it. I guess everything south of the mason-dixon line is the same to me :-) Ooops. danger on

Re: Make antibiotic resistant pathogens at home! (Re: Policing Bioterro Research)

2002-12-24 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Eugen Leitl wrote: But why doing it in the first place? To contaminate an area, causing high costs for decontamination? Doesn't compute. Unless you just want to annoy. If you want to kill people, stick to nerve agents. Maximum impact (relatively volatile, excellent LD50),

Re: QM, EPR, A/B

2002-12-31 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Nomen Nescio wrote: One way out is to ditch quantum mechanics as being anything near a description of reality as classical theories in essence are. Tim Boyer of CUNY and a batch of Italian researchers have done a pretty convincing job of showing that Ahranov-Bohm can be

re:constant encryped stream

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Eugen Leitl wrote: I have a related question. I have a little server sitting in a wall closet. Does anyone have an easy solution (preferably low tech) for figuring out that the closet door has been opened? from a kids cartoon a couple weeks ago: put a bowl of marbles next

Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Tim May wrote: * I expect most uses of customer courtesy cards are to try to get some kind of brand loyalty going. People thinking Well, I have a card at Albertson's, but not at Safeway, so I'll go to Albertson's. They'd love that, but know better. * Dossier-compiling

Re: Dossiers and Customer Courtesy Cards

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Todd Boyle wrote: Its not enough to put the chips next to the beer. They want to examining the layout of all their shelf space. The cash register data alone, is enough to do this, but it doesn't work very well for shoppers who come and buy chips on tuesday and beer on

Re: biological systems and cryptography

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, Michael Cardenas wrote: People do break cyphers, by finding weaknesses in them. Are you saying that you think that current cyphers are unbreakable? Also, what about using biological systems to create strong cyphers, not to break them? We do pretty good already don't we

Re: QM, EPR, A/B

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Rosing
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Tyler Durden wrote: Actually, Tyler Durden (ie, me) wrote what is attributed to the generic anonymous name of Norman Nescio. Anyway,... Yeah, the TD gave that away :-) With all due respect, Pooey Dr Mike. Take a nice, straightforward EPR using two correlated photons

Re: QM, Bell's Inequality and Quantum Cryptosystems

2003-01-02 Thread Mike Rosing
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Anonymous wrote: No. Bell's inequality tells us that there are no hidden variables. It's not that we don't know the value of the measureable prior to wavefunction collapse...the specific measureable doesn't exist prior to wavefunction collapse. When Bell formulated the

Re: Liars Paradox

2003-01-03 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote: As it says-they are self referecial statements.What do we learn from the liars paradox? We arrive at a senseless result-doesn't all other paradoxes do that-with the difference that they pick only either true or false-which they so strongly beleive in and

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