[Declude.Virus] MIME segment in MIME Preamble - WHERE?

2011-06-22 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,



Supposedly it's in line 22, layer1:

Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME Preamble' vulnerability in line 22 layer 1
[Content-Type: multipart/altern]



Attached is the original SMD file from the /Virus folder.



I'd like to educate the other side as to what's wrong with their email - but
I fail to see it myself (other than possibly the  in the message ID - but
that's wa earlier than line 22 and not in the MIME preamble.)



Best Regards,

Andy






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D8592de5b45a5.smd
Description: Binary data


RE: [Declude.Virus] mc afee 8.7 not scanning

2010-12-20 Thread Andy Schmidt
The new virus scanner command line version now uses compressed virus
signature and clean files etc. 

It's intended for the occasional one-time use for a situation where the
command line is the only option and where you wouldn't mind to wait a minute
or two for the uncompressing to be complete.

There IS a way how you can uncompress a new virus signature file every time
you download an updated one. Then, the command line tool won't have to do it
each and every time.

If you lucky that might just be fast enough for Declude to cope.

Best Regards,
Andy

-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
bernd.goebb...@it.nrw.de
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 3:23 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] mc afee 8.7 not scanning

hello,

we just updated our mcafee virus-scanner for 7.? to 8.7. 

after installing the virus scan commandline 6.00.1 we are catching NO
virusses!

we did not change the virus.cfg except for the path - now it looks like
this:

SCANFILEc:\mcafee\scan.exe /ALL /NOMEM /NOBREAK /UNZIP /NODDA
/NOBEEP /SILENT /REPORT report.txt
VIRUSCODE 13
REPORT Found

here's a snap out of our virus.log:

12/19/2010 23:56:29.176 q893d01763439.smd  Vulnerability flags = 28
12/19/2010 23:59:20.908 q893d01763439.smd  Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2
40736]
12/19/2010 23:56:31.239 q893f01763449.smd  Vulnerability flags = 28
12/19/2010 23:59:19.283 q893f01763449.smd  Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2
40736]
12/19/2010 23:56:35.207 q894000d9345c.smd  Vulnerability flags = 28
12/19/2010 23:59:20.689 q894000d9345c.smd  ERROR: Virus scanner 1 didn't
finish after 120 seconds; terminating.
12/19/2010 23:59:20.689 q894000d9345c.smd  Couldn't delete
E:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D894000d9345c.vir\report.txt: 32. Error String:
[Der Prozess kann nicht auf die Datei zugreifen, da sie von einem anderen
Prozess verwendet wird.]
12/19/2010 23:59:50.705 q894000d9345c.smd  Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2
40736]
12/19/2010 23:56:35.488 q894001763459.smd  Vulnerability flags = 28
12/19/2010 23:59:21.252 q894001763459.smd  ERROR: Virus scanner 1 didn't
finish after 120 seconds; terminating.
12/19/2010 23:59:21.252 q894001763459.smd  Couldn't delete
E:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D894001763459.vir\report.txt: 32. Error String:
[Der Prozess kann nicht auf die Datei zugreifen, da sie von einem anderen
Prozess verwendet wird.]
12/19/2010 23:59:51.298 q894001763459.smd  Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2
40736]
12/19/2010 23:56:55.848 q894300dc3481.smd  Vulnerability flags = 28
12/19/2010 23:59:21.424 q894300dc3481.smd  Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2
40736]
12/19/2010 23:56:55.754 q89430176347c.smd  Vulnerability flags = 28
12/19/2010 23:59:17.580 q89430176347c.smd  Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2
40736]
12/19/2010 23:57:44.222 q894301c9347d.smd  Vulnerability flags = 28
12/20/2010 00:00:07.408 q894301c9347d.smd  Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2
40736]

the error string says that the file can't be accessed because it's used by
something else.

our on-access scanner is deactivated for e:\ and its subdirectories.

does anyone know if we did something wrong?

greetings

bernd goebbels
it.nrw.de

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[Declude.Virus] Need Help - How to Rescan Messages

2010-09-15 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

I had an issue overnight that caused many hundreds of messages to be moved
to the /Spool/Virus folder (Q* and D* pairs) and to the /Spool/Proc/Review
folder (Q* files only).

 

Question - how to I cause these files to be rescanned (as some may be REAL
Trojans).

 

Where do I move Q/D pairs from the /Spool/Virus folder? Do I move the D
file to the /Spool folder and the Q file to the /Spool/Proc folder? Or do
I move BOTH the Q  D file to the /Spool/Proc folder?

 

What about the Q files in the /Spool/Proc/Review folder - do I just move
them to /Spool/Proc, or to /Spool/Proc/Work?

I checked one file and it seems the matching D file was in the
/Spool/Proc/Work folder!

 

Best Regards,

Andy




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[Declude.Virus] AVG reports SPAM as VIRUS!

2010-05-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

For the past few days, I'm seeing AVG suddenly reporting a virus SPAM:

 

 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (Integrated AVG Scanner)


Total Messages Processed: 19,499
Virus Infected Messages: 232
Percentage Infected: 1.19%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



SPAM

232

1.19%



 

resulting in these SMTP headers:

 

X-Declude-Virus: Detected Spam [from IP 41.218.0.202 ([No Reverse DNS])].

 

and these reports:

 

q061a000274936c02.smd AVG Reports VIRUS: Spam

q061a000274936c02.smd File(s) are INFECTED [Spam: 7]

q061a000274936c02.smd Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME: 1 424]

q061a000274936c02.smd From: bloodiest...@rcbassociats.com To:
elopre...@??? [incoming from 41.218.0.202]

q061a000274936c02.smd Subject: Please attention!

 

This causes a whole bunch of problems, e.g.

 

a)  I am unable to 'weigh' this Spam with other factors BEFORE it gets
blocked. 

b)  It bypasses the WhiteList feature (from the user's Webmail
Contacts)

c)   It's treated like a Virus, hundreds of the configured virus
notices are being emailed, etc.

 

While I'm certainly in favor of any additional SPAM detection - but then it
needs to be PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED as part of Declude JunkMail not just
dumped into the regular virus handling!

 

If AVG reports to Declude the virus name Spam, then Declude MUST recognize
that and NOT treat it like a virus (or at least give us a config option NOT
to.)

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

 

 



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RE: [Declude.Virus] AVG reports SPAM as VIRUS!

2010-05-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
Dave,

 

I'm aware it's integrated in Declude Virus - that's why I chose the CORRECT
list to discuss this.

I referenced Declude Junkmail, because IF AVG is now reporting SPAM, the
THAT part SHOULD be handled as part of Declude Junkmail NOT as Declude
Virus.

 

I choose to use the list, whenever I have expended some time to track down a
situation and realize that this will affect all users and thus will save
everyone time from working on the same issue. That's the whole point of the
list!

 

Consequently, whenever AVG stops working altogether (which was doubted both
times when I discovered it - until eventually it was determined to have been
a problem after all), I will continue to report this on the list, because
everyone needs to be aware that their internal scanner may be
non-functioning for extended periods of time. The alternative would be for
Declude to post an alert!

 

When I notice that the Sniffer implementation has objectively incorrect or
incomplete sample files, or have sample files that don't make it obvious
that some IP based results will be triple-counted, then I feel justified in
discussing this on the list as this will benefit OTHER users who don't have
to re-learn what took me days to figure out.

 

I will post on the list whenever I'm hoping to solicit feedback from a
broader audience, to see if a situation I encountered was isolated or
turns out to be more widespread.

 

I will contact support@ whenever I suspect that I may have an isolated
problem that needs to be analyzed first.

 

In my opinion, I usually use the appropriate venue. But I accept that you
may disagree and prefer that the list is quiet.

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:59 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] AVG reports SPAM as VIRUS!

 

Andy,

 

AVG is not integrated with Declude JM, this is AVG reporting the name of the
virus as spam. 

 

Now, something may have changed that AVG is now detecting spam in their
signatures however we were not made aware of this by AVG I will look further
into this.

 

As much as we do appreciate your feedback which helps Identify such
problems, in some things  it may be more helpful to first approach
mailto:supp...@declude.com supp...@declude.com or myself
dbar...@declude.com before engaging everyone in the list, your assumptions
of  PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED as part of Declude JunkMail not just dumped into
the regular virus handling! and  Declude MUST recognize that and NOT treat
it like a virus are rather harsh to be posting to without having all the
facts to begin with.

 

Thanks

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:39 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] AVG reports SPAM as VIRUS!
Importance: High

 

Hi,

 

For the past few days, I'm seeing AVG suddenly reporting a virus SPAM:

 

 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (Integrated AVG Scanner)


Total Messages Processed: 19,499
Virus Infected Messages: 232
Percentage Infected: 1.19%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



SPAM

232

1.19%



 

resulting in these SMTP headers:

 

X-Declude-Virus: Detected Spam [from IP 41.218.0.202 ([No Reverse DNS])].

 

and these reports:

 

q061a000274936c02.smd AVG Reports VIRUS: Spam

q061a000274936c02.smd File(s) are INFECTED [Spam: 7]

q061a000274936c02.smd Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME: 1 424]

q061a000274936c02.smd From: bloodiest...@rcbassociats.com To:
elopre...@??? [incoming from 41.218.0.202]

q061a000274936c02.smd Subject: Please attention!

 

This causes a whole bunch of problems, e.g.

 

a)  I am unable to 'weigh' this Spam with other factors BEFORE it gets
blocked. 

b)  It bypasses the WhiteList feature (from the user's Webmail
Contacts)

c)   It's treated like a Virus, hundreds of the configured virus
notices are being emailed, etc.

 

While I'm certainly in favor of any additional SPAM detection - but then it
needs to be PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED as part of Declude JunkMail not just
dumped into the regular virus handling!

 

If AVG reports to Declude the virus name Spam, then Declude MUST recognize
that and NOT treat it like a virus (or at least give us a config option NOT
to.)

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

 

 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] AVG reports SPAM as VIRUS!

2010-05-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
Dave - you are right! This appears to a matter of poor labeling by AVG -
and has nothing to do with Declude.

 

I have since looked through a large sample of held emails and they either
are well crafted short Notices about a supposed change in SMTP, POP
settings - which even lists the person's email address, and a warning to
carefully read the enclosed instructions before making changes. Then
there is a link to a ZIP file (which likely will be a virus).

 

The other group of emails deals with a supposed non-deliverable DHL package
that one needs to pick up at the post office after printing the attached
label (with the link to a zip file).

 

All appears to be emails with links to malicious pages. In that respect, one
can't argue that Declude Virus is the appropriate place to catch that (but
then it's inconsistent for AVG to detect it with a label Spam).

 

You are further correct, that AVG has done a good job catching this one. I
ran it past ClamD and the latest McAfee hourly signature - and neither
flagged those emails.

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:20 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] AVG reports SPAM as VIRUS!

 

Looks like it is part of their virus signatures, and the only line in the
email was:http://glunis.g**glegroups.com/web/setup.zip

 

We could request that they change the name. if not we will have to make an
translation in our code to accommodate this.

 

File 45710617.eml received on 2010.05.12 16:16:29 (UTC)
Current status: Loading ... queued waiting scanning finished NOT FOUND
STOPPED 

http://www.virustotal.com/img/loader.gif

Result: 1/41 (2.44%)



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RE: [Declude.Virus] embedded AVG issue

2010-05-10 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Don,

 

Here's what I have in C:\Imail\

 

11/06/2008  12:49 PM61,440 AvApiBit.dll

11/06/2008  12:49 PM61,440 AvApiSym.dll

04/29/2010  04:13 PM   834,328 avgcerta.dll

04/29/2010  04:13 PM   623,384 avgcertx.dll

04/29/2010  04:13 PM 4,250,392 avgcorex.dll

04/29/2010  04:13 PM   312,320 avgsdk.dll

10/21/2005  10:43 AM32,768 Declude.exe

04/29/2010  04:12 PM 2,318,428 decludeproc.exe

 

(You can disregard the dates/times, they just represent the time when I
copied those files).

 

Maybe do a

 

DIR C:\av*.dll  /s

 

to make sure you don't have any duplicates elsewhere.

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
decl...@mail.net1media.com
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:28 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] embedded AVG issue

 

David,

 

I was having this issue so I followed your directions below.  After
overwriting the current dlls, I could not get decludeproc to start.  I
determined that it was the avgsdk.dll that was in the newly downloaded zip
file that was the culprit.  I had to restore a previous version to get
everything working again.  I did notice that the new avgsdk.dll is
substantially smaller than the old version.

 

So  I am still having the issue originally described in the post.

 

Don

 

- Original Message - 

From: David Barker mailto:dbar...@declude.com  

To: declude.virus@declude.com 

Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 1:25 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] embedded AVG issue

 

We have seen this mostly with manual installs. Error: Could not start AVG
Instance (17) has to do with the DLL. Please contact supp...@declude.com if
you need assistance.

 

1.   Stop decludeproc

2.   Download  http://interim.declude.com/41048/AVG-DLL.zip
http://interim.declude.com/41048/AVG-DLL.zip

3.   Extract and replace the dll files overwriting your current dlls.

4.   Start decludeproc

5.   If the error persists or you get error 2 or error 4

6.   Stop decludeproc

7.   Delete all files in \declude\scanners\avg\db\

8.   Start decludeproc this will initiate a new download of the AVG
signatures

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Harry
Vanderzand
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 2:09 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] embedded AVG issue

 

I though I would check my virus logs which I have not done for a while.

 

It is not working.

 

See log entry:

05/07/2010 14:06:13.502 qb42e00250010.smd Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 1
125]

05/07/2010 14:06:18.720 q990400280052.smd Vulnerability flags = 862

05/07/2010 14:06:18.814 q990400280052.smd Error: Could not start AVG
Instance (17)

05/07/2010 14:06:18.814 q990400280052.smd Scanned: Virus Free [MIME: 2
1293]

 

What could be the issue here?

 

Thank you

 

Please note our new Address

 

Harry Vanderzand

Intown Internet

740 Erbsville Road

Waterloo, On, N2J 3Z4

519-741-1222

 

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action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be
unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this
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[Declude.Virus] RE: Internal (AVG Scanner) does NOT report file name

2010-05-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave (just in case this was overlooked in all the activity last week):

 

Considering that AVG is integrated INTO Declude, it should interface at
LEAST as good as any external scanner.

 

However, the virus bounce message filename variable is NOT set when a
virus is caught by AVG. Only the Virus Name variable is populated.
Obviously, Declude is AWARE of the file name, because when Declude passes
control to an external scanners next, then the infected file is reported
correctly. So there should be no good reason, why a virus caught by the
internal scanner would not report the filename!?

 

This is also evident in the LOG file. Here's the EICAR virus caught by AVG
in the .48 build. It only reports the virus name EICAR_Test.

 

04/29/2010 22:22:20.277 qeae800cc0002.smd AVG Reports VIRUS: EICAR_Test

04/29/2010 22:22:20.277 qeae800cc0002.smd File(s) are INFECTED
[EICAR_Test: 7]

04/29/2010 22:22:20.293 qeae800cc0002.smd Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS
[Prescan OK][MIME: 3 905]

 

If the SAME file is detected by an external scanner (in this case ClamAV) it
reports the virus name AND the file name:

 

04/28/2010 12:49:29.722 q6748c63e0425.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit
code of 1

04/28/2010 12:49:29.722 q6748c63e0425.smd Scanner 1: Virus=
Eicar-Test-Signature Attachment=eicar.zip [61] I

04/28/2010 12:49:29.722 q6748c63e0425.smd Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS
[Prescan OK][MIME: 3 875]

 

The AVG integration should be improved to match the quality of integration
of external scanners.

 

Best Regards,

Andy



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RE: [Declude.Virus] New Release Declude 4.10.48 -- MUST Install to Reenable Virus Protection!

2010-04-30 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave,

 

I guess the key question is - WHEN did AVG make the change. They released
Version AVG 9 last October. Is THAT when AVG made the database structure
change which disabled the internal Virus Scanner in Declude until 4.10.46
was made available as an interim? If so - I must have missed the big
announcement that 4.10.46 was critical to install (since there is no way of
knowing how many Declude customers are using secondary scanner and thus are
not fully exposed.).

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:52 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Release Declude 4.10.48 -- MUST Install to
Reenable Virus Protection!

 

Mike,

 

I understand what the point of Andy's email is. I was commenting on
CommTouch/Zerohour does a good job, but does not catch all known viruses 

 

Yes AVG made a change to their database structure - Declude 4.10.46+ makes
use of their new data structure, this is integrated into the new release. In
order for Declude to work with the latest AVG updates one needs to be
running Declude version 4.10.46 or greater. If you have additional virus
scanners other than AVG or are running Commtouch then the move to the latest
version is not as imperative.


David

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Biddle (via mobile device)
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:40 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Release Declude 4.10.48 -- MUST Install to
Reenable Virus Protection!

 

Uhhh.. I am pretty sure that was not the point he was trying to make. While
no AV is 100 percent effective, there is no reason for it not to work for
days or weeks. It would appear that when core files with AVG are exploited,
AVG obviously pushed out a software update to their software and I assume it
needs manually implemented in Declude.

Some clarification on this matter would be great. 

Mike

  _  

From: David Barker dbar...@declude.com
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:21 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Release Declude 4.10.48 -- MUST Install to
Reenable Virus Protection!

Andy is correct, it should be remembered that no AV is 100% accurate. This
is why besides AVG and Commtouch which are integrated into Declude users can
run up to 5 additional external virus scanners using Declude, and as seen
from the lists CalmAV is a good choice for a free scanner.

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 11:13 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] New Release Declude 4.10.48 -- MUST Install to
Reenable Virus Protection!

 

Declude Users - take note!

 

CommTouch/Zerohous does a good job, but does not catch all known viruses
(some days I have 5 or 6 DIFFERENT viruses/trojans sneaking by, some to
multiple users each!), it's absolutely imperative that AVG works if you
don't have additional scanners set up.

 

Unfortunately, AVG had stopped working (no one has said for how many weeks
or possible months it has not worked). I have confirmed that AVG is now
working again after I upgraded from 4.10.42-A to 4.10.48. So - I recommend
all Declude users get on top of this quickly!

 

(PS: This is the second time AVG has gone AWOL inside of Declude for
extended periods of times - and it's never discovered until I finally
insist. Naturally, I have zero confidence in the built-in scanner. It's
unreliable and there is no notification whenever it stops working.)

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:56 PM
To: declude.junkm...@declude.com; declude.virus@declude.com;
declude.relea...@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] New Release Declude 4.10.48

 

The following release contains the following changes since 4.7.35 to the
current 4.10.48:

 

RELEASE   4.10.48 

 




4.10.48 Fix closing files when PCRE dll encounters an error.

 




4.10.47 Fix memory leak in AVG SDK Release Instance

 




4.10.46 Updated AVG SDK to  1.7.9783; Added avgcorex.dll and avgcert.dll

 




4.10.45 Optimize code for moving files to the spool directory for IMail

 




4.10.44

RE: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV

2010-04-29 Thread Andy Schmidt
There really is no need for ClamAid, because the recent builds (including
oss.netfarm.it) already are able to install themselves as services, and the
additional ClamAid DLLs will obsolete once you install the official
version.

 

So unless you need help adding the 3 lines to the Virus.cfg, ClamAid
probably makes things unnecessary complicated...

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Cummins
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:50 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV

 

In case this is helpful for someone else that isn't so great at rolling
their own Clams from the source code:

 

First, I installed ClamAID using the default options.  (SmarterMail /
Declude install for me)

 

http://www.armresearch.com/tools/arm/clamAID.jsp

 

This installs Clam 0.92, wraps it up as a service, wraps up FreshClam as a
service and gets everything pointed and configured for Declude to use.  It
includes pthreadVC2.dll , but I don't know if it uses it once we replace the
files here in a bit, because.

 

.when FreshClam goes to update the DB, it mangles the DB dies, because
version 0.92 isn't supported anymore.  

 

Immediately after installing ClamAID I stopped the ClamAVSvc and FreshClam
services and I commented out the lines it added in virus.cfg so I could get
it all running properly again.

 

I downloaded the clamav-win32-0.96.7z from http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav/ and
extracted the files to a folder.  I grabbed all the .exe and .dll files and
replaced the old ones in \Program Files\Clam AV.  I edited \conf\clamd.conf
and commented out the deprecated MailFollowURLs on line 226.  I deleted the
files in \data\ and crated a \db\.  I set the log levels in clamd.conf and
freshclam.conf to high so I could see things chugging along until I was
comfortable.  I hard set the database to \db\ in the conf files, and set
verbose logging.

 

I cranked up the services, and watched FreshClam download new profiles to
\db\.

 

Once the db was downloaded, I tested Clam from the command prompt as
described on the armresearch page, and everything looked like it was working
fine.

 

I uncommented the lines in Declude, restarted Declude, and watched it all
start humming.

 

Now I am just keeping an eye on things, and waiting for Clam to catch a
virus.

 

-- Michael Cummins

 

 

 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV

2010-04-29 Thread Andy Schmidt
Nothing really changed with the current version - other than making sure
that you have the proper version of the VC runtime installed. It absolutely
HAS to match - so it's worth mentioning as an installation step.

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:05 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV

 

Michael,

I created a step-by-step guide a little over a year ago for the proper
installation.  It's pretty simple to do.  I can't say however if the steps
have changed in the latest release, and obviously the version that I linked
to is old now and should be updated.

So here are my abridged directions for a standard install.

1) You need 7zip installed (http://www.7-zip.org/), and to open files in
7zip, you open the file manager and double click the 7z or ZIP files.

2) Download the Current Stable code from http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav/
For Windows 32bit, it would be clamav-win32-0.94.2.7z

3) Create a directory structure with C:\ClamAV and also create a
sub-directory of C:\ClamAV\DB  Put the files from the above 7z file into
C:\ClamAV

4) Run C:\ClamAV\clamav.reg to put some directory entries into the registry.
These are by default pointing to the directory structure that I am using.

5) From a command prompt run C:\ClamAV\freshclam.exe
--datadir=C:\ClamAV\DB --daemon-notify  This will download the latest
definitions and let the service know to reload them if new ones are found.
You want to schedule a task to run this every 15 minutes (there is virtually
no load if no updates are available).  There is no need to install freshclam
as a service.

6) From a command prompt run C:\ClamAV\clamd --install  This will install
the ClamWin Free Antivirus Scanner Service  You then want to edit the
service properties to start automatically, and set your recovery options to
restart the service.

7) Download the ClamAV GUI Wrapper from http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav/  You
only need one file from this zip, ClamAV-GUI.exe, and yo uwant to place that
in C:\ClamAV  This is a simple GUI for scanning files and directories and
can be useful.  You can create a short-cut for it if you want.

8) Configure Declude for ClamAV with the following (it is probably best to
have this as the first scanner since it is the fastest):

SCANFILE1  C:\ClamAV\ClamDScan.exe --quiet --no-summary -l report.txt
VIRUSCODE1 1
REPORT1.

9) Check your virus logs for Virus scanner 1 reports in order to verify
that it is running.


Note, if you want to use a non-default location, you will need to change the
location in the following three things (don't quote me on this)

1) clamav.reg
2) clamd.conf
3) The freshclam.exe --datadir argument

Matt




On 4/29/2010 4:14 PM, Michael Cummins wrote: 

The official download from Clam wouldn't install on my Windows 2003 box.  It
said it only supports Windows 7, Vista, told me to go pound sand, yada yada.

 

The stuff at oss.netfarm.it didn't come with very much in the way of
instructions, but the ClamAID stuff did and it was also familiar with
Declude so it gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling.  It also didn't look like
clamav-win32-0.96.7z was going to set up FreshClam as a service, or at least
didn't mention it, and I hate installing random product just to see what it
does.

 

Not dissing anything, just explaining why I chose it.   You're completely
right.  I'm completely clam-n00b.  I've never worked with ClamAV, don't know
its parts and pieces from a racoon skin hat, and was grateful to have a nice
page of instructions (thanks, ARM!), especially on how to test it before
configuring Declude.Also, the ClamAID example used the .conf file in
their Declude config, while the Declude example didn't.  I thought that was
handy, too.

 

It at least gave me a place I could kludge from, and now I know a lot more
about how the product works.

 

Just splaining where my head was and leaving a trail here in the archives in
case it helps someone else.  :)

 

 - Michael Cummins

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:14 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV

 

There really is no need for ClamAid, because the recent builds (including
oss.netfarm.it) already are able to install themselves as services, and the
additional ClamAid DLLs will obsolete once you install the official
version.

 

So unless you need help adding the 3 lines to the Virus.cfg, ClamAid
probably makes things unnecessary complicated...

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Cummins
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:50 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV

 

In case this is helpful for someone else that isn't so great at rolling
their own Clams from the source code:

 

First, I installed ClamAID using the default options.  (SmarterMail /
Declude install for me

RE: [Declude.Virus] New Release Declude 4.10.48 -- MUST Install to Reenable Virus Protection!

2010-04-29 Thread Andy Schmidt
Declude Users - take note!

 

CommTouch/Zerohous does a good job, but does not catch all known viruses
(some days I have 5 or 6 DIFFERENT viruses/trojans sneaking by, some to
multiple users each!), it's absolutely imperative that AVG works if you
don't have additional scanners set up.

 

Unfortunately, AVG had stopped working (no one has said for how many weeks
or possible months it has not worked). I have confirmed that AVG is now
working again after I upgraded from 4.10.42-A to 4.10.48. So - I recommend
all Declude users get on top of this quickly!

 

(PS: This is the second time AVG has gone AWOL inside of Declude for
extended periods of times - and it's never discovered until I finally
insist. Naturally, I have zero confidence in the built-in scanner. It's
unreliable and there is no notification whenever it stops working.)

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:56 PM
To: declude.junkm...@declude.com; declude.virus@declude.com;
declude.relea...@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] New Release Declude 4.10.48

 

The following release contains the following changes since 4.7.35 to the
current 4.10.48:

 

RELEASE   4.10.48 

 




4.10.48 Fix closing files when PCRE dll encounters an error.

 




4.10.47 Fix memory leak in AVG SDK Release Instance

 




4.10.46 Updated AVG SDK to  1.7.9783; Added avgcorex.dll and avgcert.dll

 




4.10.45 Optimize code for moving files to the spool directory for IMail

 




4.10.44 Optimize code for moving files to the spool directory for
Smartermail

 




4.10.43  Fixed variable names in the MoveToError function which were
declared globally

 




4.10.42-A Fix for SNF Authentication to turn off without having to restart
Decludeproc

 




4.10.42 Message Sniffer integrated into Declude

 




4.10.41 Added variable %AUTH% to show the authenticated sender of the email

 




4.10.40 XWHITELIST  ON in the global.cfg will give the reason for why the
email was WHITELISTED in the header of the email

 




4.9.39 Added a function to send a notify e-mail when hijack is triggered and
e-mails are being held in the Hold2 folder 

 

To turn the Hijack e-mail notify on add the following directive to the
hijack.cfg.

 

HIJNOTIFY   ON

 

Add the include HijackNotify.eml into the \Declude directory. The recipient
of the email can be modified.

 




4.8.39 IPBYPASS can be configured with CIDR

 




4.8.38 Add the Recipient, mailfrom and subject information to the blklst.txt
file.

 

 The format blklst.txt file is 

 

 
Date|time|spool#|IP|TotalWeight|LastAction|RecpList|mailfrom|subject|testsfa
iled

 

Example:

 

Multiple Recipients:

 

10/14/2009|11:40:06.109|53|24.177.234.76|18|s...@hcss.net,s...@hcss.net,test
i...@yahoo,beg...@yahoo.com,donotl...@gmail, 

|owner-nolist-30960_*bigm**ridgewoodcable*-...@soar.soulfulbliss.com|[59]Gua
ranteed*-payment-center|CATCHALLMAILS=0,NOLEGITCONTENT=0,IPNOTINMX=0,SORBS-D
UL=5,FIVETENRC=2,ZEN=7,SORBS=7,DYNHELO=5,FROMNOMATCH=2,WEIGHT10=10,WEIGHT14=
14,| 

 

 

One Recipient:

 

10/14/2009|11:40:06.296|15|218.16.123.185|37|s...@hcss.net,|info_claimsproce
ssgabjgfu...@gmx.net|CONTACT AGENT FOR
CONFIRMATION|CATCHALLMAILS=0,NOLEGITCONTENT=0,IPNOTINMX=0,FIVETEN-SRC=2,NJAB
L=4,BASE64=4,CMDSPACE=8,DYNHELO=5,HELOBOGUS

=5,REVDNS=10,SPFFAIL=10,WEIGHT10=10,WEIGHT14=14,WEIGHT20=20,WEIGHT30=30,|

 




 

4.8.37 PostiniFix,  Add a new directive POSTINIFIX ON/OFF goes in the
declude.cfg file

 

Configuration:

 

In 

[Declude.Virus] Internal (AVG Scanner) does NOT report file name

2010-04-29 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

Considering that AVG is integrated INTO Declude, it should interface at
LEAST as good as any external scanner.

 

However, the virus bounce message filename variable is NOT set when a
virus is caught by AVG. Only the Virus Name variable is populated. 

 

But when a virus is caught by the external scanners, then the infected file
is reported correctly.

 

This is also evident in the LOG file. Here's the EICAR virus caught by AVG
in the .48 build. It only reports the virus name EICAR_Test.

 

04/29/2010 22:22:20.277 qeae800cc0002.smd AVG Reports VIRUS: EICAR_Test

04/29/2010 22:22:20.277 qeae800cc0002.smd File(s) are INFECTED
[EICAR_Test: 7]

04/29/2010 22:22:20.293 qeae800cc0002.smd Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS
[Prescan OK][MIME: 3 905]

 

If the SAME file is detected by an external scanner (in this case ClamAV) it
reports the virus name AND the file name:

 

04/28/2010 12:49:29.722 q6748c63e0425.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit
code of 1

04/28/2010 12:49:29.722 q6748c63e0425.smd Scanner 1: Virus=
Eicar-Test-Signature Attachment=eicar.zip [61] I

04/28/2010 12:49:29.722 q6748c63e0425.smd Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS
[Prescan OK][MIME: 3 875]

 

The AVG integration should be improved to match the quality of external
scanner.

 

Best Regards,

Andy



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[Declude.Virus] Testing Internal Scanner

2010-04-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

I've been watching this now for a few months. The internal scanner NEVER
ever catches a virus - while my two other scanner catch them daily.

 

However, since CommTouch doesn't allow the Eicar file to pass, there is no
way to easily test the internal scanner.  I think this is something that
should eventually be addressed - either by a parameter that allows a user to
disable CommTouch for a few minutes at night while testing OR by CommTouch
recognizing the EICAR file as a good file and letting it pass!

 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (Integrated AVG Scanner)


Total Messages Processed: 17,402
Virus Infected Messages: 0
Percentage Infected: 0.00%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



No Records Matched Your Criteria



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (ClamAV)


Total Messages Processed: 17,402
Virus Infected Messages: 4
Percentage Infected: 0.02%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



PDF.DROPPER-3

3

0.02%



SUSPECT.DOUBLEEXTENSION-ZIPPWD-9

1

0.01%



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (McAfee VirusScan)


Total Messages Processed: 17,402
Virus Infected Messages: 1
Percentage Infected: 0.01%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



GENERIC.DX!SED TROJAN !!!

1

0.01%



 

Best Regards,

Andy



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RE: [Declude.Virus] Testing Internal Scanner

2010-04-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
4.10.42-A

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:12 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Testing Internal Scanner

 

Andy what version of Declude are you running ?

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:16 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Testing Internal Scanner

 

Hi,

 

I've been watching this now for a few months. The internal scanner NEVER
ever catches a virus - while my two other scanner catch them daily.

 

However, since CommTouch doesn't allow the Eicar file to pass, there is no
way to easily test the internal scanner.  I think this is something that
should eventually be addressed - either by a parameter that allows a user to
disable CommTouch for a few minutes at night while testing OR by CommTouch
recognizing the EICAR file as a good file and letting it pass!

 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (Integrated AVG Scanner)


Total Messages Processed: 17,402
Virus Infected Messages: 0
Percentage Infected: 0.00%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



No Records Matched Your Criteria



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (ClamAV)


Total Messages Processed: 17,402
Virus Infected Messages: 4
Percentage Infected: 0.02%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



PDF.DROPPER-3

3

0.02%



SUSPECT.DOUBLEEXTENSION-ZIPPWD-9

1

0.01%



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (McAfee VirusScan)


Total Messages Processed: 17,402
Virus Infected Messages: 1
Percentage Infected: 0.01%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



GENERIC.DX!SED TROJAN !!!

1

0.01%



 

Best Regards,

Andy


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RE: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV

2010-04-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
Generally, ClamD catches most viruses that AVG misses (during those times
when it actually runs), and McAfee catches the occasional virus that ClamD
misses. ClamD downloads updates automatically (using the FreshClam).

 

I found the http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav build very useful. I don't recall
any installation difficulty. It did have a successful installer and is able
to install itself as a service. 

There is a .REG file that sets up a registry entry where the path is stored.

 

In their registry, I use the following:

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ClamAV]

ConfigDir=C:\\Progra~1\\ClamAV\\conf

DataDir=C:\\Progra~1\\ClamAV\\db

 

For FreshClam.conf, I changed these parameters:

 

DatabaseDirectory C:\Program Files\clamAV\db

UpdateLogFile C:\Program Files\clamAV\log\freshclam.log

LogTime yes

 

For ClamD.conf, I changed these:

 

LogFile C:\Program Files\clamAV\log\clamd.log

LogTime yes

TemporaryDirectory C:\Temp

DatabaseDirectory C:\Program Files\clamAV\db

 

For the service, I removed the spaces from the path (not sure if this was

needed):

 

C:\Progra~1\ClamAV\clamd.exe --daemon

 

In Declude, you'd use:

 

#ClamAV

SCANFILE1   C:\Progra~1\ClamAV\ClamDScan.exe

VIRUSCODE1  1

 

Of course, that still leaves the problem of the virus report file. I had
contacted Declude and they said they would check if they can natively parse
the report file. For now I still use a simple script to reformat the Report
file to suit Declude.

 

ClamAV now has an official Windows build AND compiles under Visual Studio.
So, ideally, Declude would just integrate ClamAV as an internal scanner
instead of having to deal with all this command-line jazz.

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Cummins
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:30 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner - Nonfunctional?

 

What's the best way to look into using Clam as a second scanner?

 

I found this at ARM, does anyone else use this install aid?

 

http://www.armresearch.com/tools/arm/clamAID.jsp

 

What's your general opinion of Clam when compared to McAffee, or another
favorite scanner?

 

How do you update your Clam database files?

 

Thanks for the discussion and feedback!

 

-- Michael Cummins

 



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RE: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV

2010-04-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
Thanks John,

Yes, that'll work too.

Of course, rather than you having to modify the source code of 2 or 3
modules for every build - or me having to write a report file parser, the
REAL solution is for Declude to provide at least a minimum amount of
flexibility in parsing report files (or - to integrate the ClamLib and
eliminate any command line needs).

Best Regards,
Andy

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From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Cert
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 7:26 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV

Hello!

The sherpya Clam port at oss.netfarm.it is very easy to build and use, 
and there are only about 10 lines of code in 2 or 3 modules where you 
need to add a VirusName- prefix before the actual name of the virus 
so Declude can pick it up in the report file. I just mod the code and 
recompile instead of trying to manipulate the report file.

I do not use any sort of installer. I just setup the conf files, spawn a 
clamd process on startup, schedule a freshclam run periodically, and 
point Declude to the clamdscan scanner. I also grab the MSRBL Images 
spam database for use with Clam. The clamd/clamdscan combo are very 
light and fast.

Take care!

John

On 4/28/2010 1:13 PM, Andy Schmidt wrote:
 Generally, ClamD catches most viruses that AVG misses (during those times
 when it actually runs), and McAfee catches the occasional virus that ClamD
 misses. ClamD downloads updates automatically (using the FreshClam).



 I found the http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav build very useful. I don't recall
 any installation difficulty. It did have a successful installer and is
able
 to install itself as a service.

 There is a .REG file that sets up a registry entry where the path is
stored.



 In their registry, I use the following:



 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ClamAV]

 ConfigDir=C:\\Progra~1\\ClamAV\\conf

 DataDir=C:\\Progra~1\\ClamAV\\db



 For FreshClam.conf, I changed these parameters:



 DatabaseDirectory C:\Program Files\clamAV\db

 UpdateLogFile C:\Program Files\clamAV\log\freshclam.log

 LogTime yes



 For ClamD.conf, I changed these:



 LogFile C:\Program Files\clamAV\log\clamd.log

 LogTime yes

 TemporaryDirectory C:\Temp

 DatabaseDirectory C:\Program Files\clamAV\db



 For the service, I removed the spaces from the path (not sure if this was

 needed):



 C:\Progra~1\ClamAV\clamd.exe --daemon



 In Declude, you'd use:



 #ClamAV

 SCANFILE1   C:\Progra~1\ClamAV\ClamDScan.exe

 VIRUSCODE1  1



 Of course, that still leaves the problem of the virus report file. I had
 contacted Declude and they said they would check if they can natively
parse
 the report file. For now I still use a simple script to reformat the
Report
 file to suit Declude.



 ClamAV now has an official Windows build AND compiles under Visual Studio.
 So, ideally, Declude would just integrate ClamAV as an internal scanner
 instead of having to deal with all this command-line jazz.



 Best Regards,

 Andy







 From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of
Michael
 Cummins
 Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:30 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner - Nonfunctional?



 What's the best way to look into using Clam as a second scanner?



 I found this at ARM, does anyone else use this install aid?



 http://www.armresearch.com/tools/arm/clamAID.jsp



 What's your general opinion of Clam when compared to McAffee, or another
 favorite scanner?



 How do you update your Clam database files?



 Thanks for the discussion and feedback!



 -- Michael Cummins





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[Declude.Virus] ClamAV 0.96 Released - Now a native Windows Port!

2010-04-02 Thread Andy Schmidt
Native Windows Support: ClamAV will now build natively under Visual Studio.
This will allow 3rd Party application developers on Windows to easily
integrate LibClamAV into their applications.
http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/2010/04/02/announcing-clamav-0-96/

 

Also:

ClamAV for Windows Released

http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/about/win32/

 

Haven't checked yet, whether this official ClamAV for Windows will also
work with normal signature files and has ClamD - or if it's an entirely
different animal.

 

 

 



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RE: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

2010-03-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Thanks, I'll make it part of my monthly job that deletes files older than 30
days - that's tight enough for me.

 

Of course, Declude or Commtouch should be cleaning up after itself (e.g.,
whenever new files/signatures are downloaded) - but that's a different
story.

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Bonno
Bloksma
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:27 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

Hi David,

 

A while ago I was told these can be deleted almost immediatly but the
running DecludeProc service has them locked so it will be needed to stop
DecludeProc, remove the temp files and then start Declude proc.

 

As part of my nightly routine I have now:

--quote---

Set LogFile=C:\Beheer\Logs\CleanTemp.log
echo %Date% %Time% Starting CleanTemp  %LogFile%
Del /Q C:\IMail\declude\invuribl\Exception\*.*
Del /Q C:\IMail\WebDir\WebClient\temp\*.*
del /Q C:\IMail\Spool\tmp*.tmp
net stop Decludeproc
Del /Q C:\IMail\declude\scanners\CommTouch\Temp\*.*
Del /Q C:\IMail\spool\proc\work\*.smd.tmp
net start Decludeproc
echo %Date% %Time% End CleanTemp  %LogFile%
exit
--quote---

 

Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
senior systeembeheerder

tio 

hogeschool hospitality en toerisme 
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20

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- Original Message - 

From: David Barker mailto:dbar...@declude.com  

To: declude.virus@declude.com 

Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:44 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

These are cached CT files. I will find out when the can be deleted and get
back to you.

 

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:35 AM
To: Declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

Hi,

 

That folder has over 1,000 files, some several MB large, CTM*.tmp,
CTENG*.tmp and CTENG*.dat.

 

How old do these files have to be, before I can safely delete them?

 

Best Regards,

Andy


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RE: [Declude.Virus] How to disable CommTouch Zerohour (for testing)

2010-03-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Thanks - downloaded and installed.

I'll have to take a look at the integrated Sniffer. I got pulled away and
never got back to it.

I'll have to take a good luck at the rulebase update - on first glace it
seems as if your script is leaving out the crucial SNF2CHECK to make sure
that the downloaded rulebase is valid BEFORE replacing it. So I'll have to
look at it very carefully.

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From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:05 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] How to disable CommTouch Zerohour (for testing)

Release notes for Declude Security Suite 4.10.42  [28 December 2009]

EVA FIX Fix for Virus test not catching the eicar test due to e-mail
formatting

This was done in interim 4.8.36 which is still on the Interim site if you
just want to try switching out the decludeproc.exe and testing to see if the
issue is resolved.

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
dbar...@declude.com


-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:22 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] How to disable CommTouch Zerohour (for testing)

Declude 4.6.35 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: IMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2009 Declude, Inc.

Host Name
MAYWOOD-IS-0012.WEBHOST.HM-SOFTWARE.COM
Daisy Chain smtp32.exe
DNS Server  127.0.0.1

Product Details

 JunkMail   ON
 EVAON
 Hijack OFF

 AVGON
 CommTouch  ON

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:07 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] How to disable CommTouch Zerohour (for testing)

What version of Declude are you running ?




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RE: [Declude.Virus] Integrated Sniffer

2010-03-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Pete:

Thanks for jumping in.

1.  The SNF engine performs the SNF2CHECK task before it accepts a new
rulebase 

I'm a little confused - the script replaces the rulebase - without checking.
So what happens if the rulebase is bad. By the time the engine checks the
good one is already rename and the bad one is already called .snf

if exist %LICENSE_ID%.old del %LICENSE_ID%.old
if exist %LICENSE_ID%.snf rename %LICENSE_ID%.snf %LICENSE_ID%.old
rename %LICENSE_ID%.new %LICENSE_ID%.snf

2. I assume I can still just update the XML file to move the logfiles,
rulebase and workspace to its own subfolders to keep things tidy and for
improved maintainability?

log path='[PATH]\declude\scanners\SNF\logs\'/
rulebase path='[PATH]\declude\scanners\SNF\rulebase\'/
workspace path='[PATH]\declude\scanners\SNF\work\'/

Best Regards,
Andy

-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Pete
McNeil
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 1:22 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] How to disable CommTouch Zerohour (for testing)

On 3/19/2010 11:26 AM, Andy Schmidt wrote:
 Thanks - downloaded and installed.

 I'll have to take a look at the integrated Sniffer. I got pulled away and
 never got back to it.

 I'll have to take a good luck at the rulebase update - on first glace it
 seems as if your script is leaving out the crucial SNF2CHECK to make sure
 that the downloaded rulebase is valid BEFORE replacing it. So I'll have to
 look at it very carefully.


Andy,

The script cannot call snf2check for the embedded SNF because that would 
expose the OEM rulebase.

The SNF engine performs the SNF2CHECK task before it accepts a new 
rulebase so it's ok to leave that out of the update script in OEM 
integrations of the SNF engine.

In fact, the getRulebase.cmd script need not be used at all by an OEM -- 
they can use their own facility. However in this case I recommended 
strongly that Declude use a modified getRulebase script so that Declude 
customers could modify it to perform additional tasks in the way they 
are used to.

Hope this helps,

Best,

_M



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RE: [Declude.Virus] Integrated Sniffer

2010-03-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Thanks

 If the rulebase does not properly authenticate in the SNF engine then the
reload is rejected.
Once the guard time expires the update script will be run again (by default
after 3 minutes). 

Which also means, if the corrupt rulebase persists and the server or
services happen to be restarted during those times, we have a potential
problem because upon restart it won't have a good rulebase to fall back on.

So there's definitely a (calculated) risk in NOT checking the rulebase
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

2010-03-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Thanks!

 

DecludeProc should probably just delete that folder content when the service
is restarted the first time before the first email is processed. Then
CommTouch can reinitialize itself subsequently.

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 3:23 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

This is the answer directly from Commtouch:

 

You can safely stop commtouch [declude] and delete all of these files.  If
any are needed, the application will download them again, but any handled in
this matter should be a few days old.  Usually Commtouch will clean up these
files on its own, but at times problems do develop due to the index.dat
file.  If you see any .tmp files older than a month, it is a good sign that
a delete should be done to clean up these temp files.

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

 

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 10:16 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

Thanks, I'll make it part of my monthly job that deletes files older than 30
days - that's tight enough for me.

 

Of course, Declude or Commtouch should be cleaning up after itself (e.g.,
whenever new files/signatures are downloaded) - but that's a different
story.

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Bonno
Bloksma
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:27 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

Hi David,

 

A while ago I was told these can be deleted almost immediatly but the
running DecludeProc service has them locked so it will be needed to stop
DecludeProc, remove the temp files and then start Declude proc.

 

As part of my nightly routine I have now:

--quote---

Set LogFile=C:\Beheer\Logs\CleanTemp.log
echo %Date% %Time% Starting CleanTemp  %LogFile%
Del /Q C:\IMail\declude\invuribl\Exception\*.*
Del /Q C:\IMail\WebDir\WebClient\temp\*.*
del /Q C:\IMail\Spool\tmp*.tmp
net stop Decludeproc
Del /Q C:\IMail\declude\scanners\CommTouch\Temp\*.*
Del /Q C:\IMail\spool\proc\work\*.smd.tmp
net start Decludeproc
echo %Date% %Time% End CleanTemp  %LogFile%
exit
--quote---

 

Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
senior systeembeheerder

tio 

hogeschool hospitality en toerisme 
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20

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- Original Message - 

From: David Barker mailto:dbar...@declude.com  

To: declude.virus@declude.com 

Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:44 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

These are cached CT files. I will find out when the can be deleted and get
back to you.

 

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:35 AM
To: Declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

Hi,

 

That folder has over 1,000 files, some several MB large, CTM*.tmp,
CTENG*.tmp and CTENG*.dat.

 

How old do these files have to be, before I can safely delete them?

 

Best Regards,

Andy


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

2010-03-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

No I have a little cscript I wrote that iterates through subdirectories and
takes parameters like /lastweek  /lastmonth etc.

 

I'll be happy to share, if you need it.

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Bonno
Bloksma
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 5:33 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

Hi Andy,

 

What tool are you using to specify x days old when deleting? Or are you
allready using Powershell?

 

Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
senior systeembeheerder

tio 

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- Original Message - 

From: Andy Schmidt mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com  

To: declude.virus@declude.com 

Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 3:15 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

Thanks, I'll make it part of my monthly job that deletes files older than 30
days - that's tight enough for me.

 

Of course, Declude or Commtouch should be cleaning up after itself (e.g.,
whenever new files/signatures are downloaded) - but that's a different
story.

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Bonno
Bloksma
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 2:27 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

Hi David,

 

A while ago I was told these can be deleted almost immediatly but the
running DecludeProc service has them locked so it will be needed to stop
DecludeProc, remove the temp files and then start Declude proc.

 

As part of my nightly routine I have now:

--quote---

Set LogFile=C:\Beheer\Logs\CleanTemp.log
echo %Date% %Time% Starting CleanTemp  %LogFile%
Del /Q C:\IMail\declude\invuribl\Exception\*.*
Del /Q C:\IMail\WebDir\WebClient\temp\*.*
del /Q C:\IMail\Spool\tmp*.tmp
net stop Decludeproc
Del /Q C:\IMail\declude\scanners\CommTouch\Temp\*.*
Del /Q C:\IMail\spool\proc\work\*.smd.tmp
net start Decludeproc
echo %Date% %Time% End CleanTemp  %LogFile%
exit
--quote---

 

Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
senior systeembeheerder

tio 

hogeschool hospitality en toerisme 
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20

 mailto:b.blok...@tio.nl b.blok...@tio.nl  /  http://www.tio.nl/
www.tio.nl 


- Original Message - 

From: David Barker mailto:dbar...@declude.com  

To: declude.virus@declude.com 

Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 4:44 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

These are cached CT files. I will find out when the can be deleted and get
back to you.

 

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:35 AM
To: Declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

 

Hi,

 

That folder has over 1,000 files, some several MB large, CTM*.tmp,
CTENG*.tmp and CTENG*.dat.

 

How old do these files have to be, before I can safely delete them?

 

Best Regards,

Andy


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[Declude.Virus] How to disable CommTouch Zerohour (for testing)

2010-03-18 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

I want to test the virus scanners using EICAR. However, CommTouch gets in
the way and blocks it.

 

How do I temporarily disable CommTouch  in Declude Virus, so that the EICAR
file is handled by the interna/external scanners?

 

Best Regards,

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[Declude.Virus] Commtouch/Temp files going back to last year?

2010-03-18 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

That folder has over 1,000 files, some several MB large, CTM*.tmp,
CTENG*.tmp and CTENG*.dat.

 

How old do these files have to be, before I can safely delete them?

 

Best Regards,

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RE: [Declude.Virus] How to disable CommTouch Zerohour (for testing)

2010-03-18 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave,

 

Thanks. So the answer is, there is no local override where we can disable
CommTouch ourselves. Such a directive maybe something for the to-do list.

 

To be frank - I was trying to test AVG. I've noticed in recent weeks that my
external scanners (ClamAV and my trusted McAfee) have been catching infected
emails - but AVG never catches any. The files in the AVG folder are all from
today. So when I had 2 minutes, I just wanted to quickly check if AVG had
somehow disabled itself again by passing an EICAR file through - but I
don't have time to make a big project out of it.

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:43 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] How to disable CommTouch Zerohour (for testing)

 

Andy work with our support so we can disable it for you for testing.  Let us
know when you want to do it.

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:29 AM
To: Declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] How to disable CommTouch Zerohour (for testing)

 

Hi,

 

I want to test the virus scanners using EICAR. However, CommTouch gets in
the way and blocks it.

 

How do I temporarily disable CommTouch  in Declude Virus, so that the EICAR
file is handled by the interna/external scanners?

 

Best Regards,

Andy


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RE: [Declude.Virus] How to disable CommTouch Zerohour (for testing)

2010-03-18 Thread Andy Schmidt
Declude 4.6.35 Diagnostics
Compilation Platform: IMail
Copyright (c) 2000-2009 Declude, Inc.

Host Name
MAYWOOD-IS-0012.WEBHOST.HM-SOFTWARE.COM
Daisy Chain smtp32.exe
DNS Server  127.0.0.1

Product Details

 JunkMail   ON
 EVAON
 Hijack OFF

 AVGON
 CommTouch  ON

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:07 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] How to disable CommTouch Zerohour (for testing)

What version of Declude are you running ?




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[Declude.JunkMail] Commtouch ZeroHour - no longer active? What's the best procedure everyone uses to renew it?

2009-07-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

I noticed that ZeroHour stopped catching any viruses after 6/28 - and, after
investigating, I now realize it no longer traps any Spam. There were NO
changes to any .CFG (or other Declude files). I'm enclosing the most recent
Diags.txt (from 6/18, where CommTouch was ON) and then one from today after
I made a point of manually restarting DecludeProc.  Suddenly, it reports
CommTouch as OFF?

 

My customer screen shows:

 


 

Host Information


 Declude Imail Perpetual Lic.

[omitted] 

28 Jun 2010 


 AVG 

Activated

Current



 CommTouch 

Activated



 

It can't be a coincidence that CommTouch stopped working 3 weeks ago,  on
the exact anniversary date of my (renewed) agreement?

 

Since I only purchased CommTouch a few weeks ago, I'm new to this. So, what
do Declude customers have to do after purchasing CommTouch or after renewing
their service agreements to make sure that the software will continue to
work with a complete function set? This way, I can add yet another reminder
to my calendar (besides monitoring the AVG licensing renewal date).

 

 


Overall Server Virus Summary Report


Total Messages Processed: 21,868
Virus Infected Messages: 60
Percentage Infected: 0.27%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



OUTLOOK 'BLANK FOLDING' VULNERABILITY

33

0.15%



OUTLOOK 'CR' VULNERABILITY

11

0.05%



OUTLOOK 'MIME SEGMENT IN MIME PREAMBLE' VULNERABILITY

8

0.04%



I-WORM/MYDOOM.O

3

0.01%



I-WORM/MYDOOM.BE

1

0.00%



I-WORM/MYDOOM.N

1

0.00%



NON STANDARD HEADER VULNERABILITY

1

0.00%



TROJAN.IFRAME-3

1

0.00%



WORM.BAGLE-ZIPPWD-35

1

0.00%



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (Integrated AVG Scanner)


Total Messages Processed: 21,868
Virus Infected Messages: 5
Percentage Infected: 0.02%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



I-WORM/MYDOOM.O

3

0.01%



I-WORM/MYDOOM.BE

1

0.00%



I-WORM/MYDOOM.N

1

0.00%



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (ClamAV)


Total Messages Processed: 21,868
Virus Infected Messages: 2
Percentage Infected: 0.01%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



TROJAN.IFRAME-3

1

0.00%



WORM.BAGLE-ZIPPWD-35

1

0.00%



 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

 



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[Declude.Virus] Commtouch ZeroHour - no longer active? What's the best procedure everyone uses to renew it?

2009-07-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

I noticed that ZeroHour stopped catching any viruses after 6/28 - and, after
investigating, I now realize it no longer traps any Spam. There were NO
changes to any .CFG (or other Declude files). I'm enclosing the most recent
Diags.txt (from 6/18, where CommTouch was ON) and then one from today after
I made a point of manually restarting DecludeProc.  Suddenly, it reports
CommTouch as OFF?

 

My customer screen shows:

 


 

Host Information


 Declude Imail Perpetual Lic.

[omitted] 

28 Jun 2010 


 AVG 

Activated

Current



 CommTouch 

Activated



 

It can't be a coincidence that CommTouch stopped working 3 weeks ago,  on
the exact anniversary date of my (renewed) agreement?

 

Since I only purchased CommTouch a few weeks ago, I'm new to this. So, what
do Declude customers have to do after purchasing CommTouch or after renewing
their service agreements to make sure that the software will continue to
work with a complete function set? This way, I can add yet another reminder
to my calendar (besides monitoring the AVG licensing renewal date).

 

 


Overall Server Virus Summary Report


Total Messages Processed: 21,868
Virus Infected Messages: 60
Percentage Infected: 0.27%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



OUTLOOK 'BLANK FOLDING' VULNERABILITY

33

0.15%



OUTLOOK 'CR' VULNERABILITY

11

0.05%



OUTLOOK 'MIME SEGMENT IN MIME PREAMBLE' VULNERABILITY

8

0.04%



I-WORM/MYDOOM.O

3

0.01%



I-WORM/MYDOOM.BE

1

0.00%



I-WORM/MYDOOM.N

1

0.00%



NON STANDARD HEADER VULNERABILITY

1

0.00%



TROJAN.IFRAME-3

1

0.00%



WORM.BAGLE-ZIPPWD-35

1

0.00%



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (Integrated AVG Scanner)


Total Messages Processed: 21,868
Virus Infected Messages: 5
Percentage Infected: 0.02%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



I-WORM/MYDOOM.O

3

0.01%



I-WORM/MYDOOM.BE

1

0.00%



I-WORM/MYDOOM.N

1

0.00%



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (ClamAV)


Total Messages Processed: 21,868
Virus Infected Messages: 2
Percentage Infected: 0.01%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



TROJAN.IFRAME-3

1

0.00%



WORM.BAGLE-ZIPPWD-35

1

0.00%



 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

 



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 SORBS-WEB  IP4R
 SORBS-BLOCKIP4R
 SORBS-ZOMBIE   IP4R
 SORBS-DUHL IP4R
 SENDERDB   IP4R
 

[Declude.Virus] ZEROHOUR, scanner order

2009-06-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave:

 

I see.

 

Based on your email I checked the “Virus” side of things – and I do see
Zerohour log entires.

 

06/07/2009 23:44:36.968 q29d5b0d20821.smd Vulnerability flags = 1

06/07/2009 23:44:36.984 q29d5b0d20821.smd ZEROHOUR Reports VIRUS:
Unknown

06/07/2009 23:44:36.984 q29d5b0d20821.smd File(s) are INFECTED [ZEROHOUR
Unknown]

06/07/2009 23:44:36.984 q29d5b0d20821.smd Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS
[MIME: 2 24588]

06/07/2009 23:44:36.984 q29d5b0d20821.smd From: ignitionhf8...@sicis.com
To: imail...@wateroperations.com [incoming from 84.63.45.89]

06/07/2009 23:44:36.984 q29d5b0d20821.smd Subject:
=?koi8-r?B?WW91knZlIHJlY2VpdmVkIGEgZ3JlZXRpbmcgZWNhcmQ=?=

 

Unfortunately, Zerohour doesn’t identify the virus (which in some cases, may
be obvious if it’s a yet unnamed outbreak). But, the problem is that “know”
viruses are not handled as configured.

 

What are my configuration options for Declude Virus with regards to
ZeroHour?

 

Can I at least control the order of scanning – e.g., I’d rather have the
regular virus scanners try to “identify” and report “known/named” viruses –
and make Zerohour the option of last defense?

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:36 AM
To: declude.junkm...@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ZEROHOUR vs. TESTSFAILED

 

Hi Andy,

 

The ZEROHOUR was integrated into Declude as part of the virus code as it
provides ZEROHOUR anti-virus. Because of this it does not function the same
as the other tests. It either scores the email for x points as defined in
the global.cfg or it does not which is shown as zero. Changing the way
ZEROHOUR was implemented is on our development list.

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 6:07 PM
To: declude.junkm...@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ZEROHOUR vs. TESTSFAILED
Importance: High

 

Hi,

 

Seems as if ZEROHOUR is not at all handled correctly vis-à-vis the
TESTSFAILED variable?

 

1.   Example: I have defined

 

XINHEADERX-Declude: Triggered [%WEIGHT%] %TESTSFAILED%

 

However, since activating ZEROHOUR I know see SMTP headers like this:

X-Declude: Triggered [-2] None, ZEROHOUR [0]

 

There are two things wrong with this:

 

a)  If “Testsfailed” returns “None”, why is the string “ZEROHOUR”
appended?  If it’s “None” then it should be “None” – and nothing else.

b)  If “ZEROHOUR” didn’t fail and thus has a weight of “0”, then it
shouldn’t appear in the TESTSFAILED list at all.

 

2.   In one of my filters, I have the line
TESTSFAILED  5  CONTAINS  ZEROHOUR
However, it fails to add “5” to the weight – as if it doesn’t detect
“ZEROHOUR” in the TestsFailed string – which would be consistent with items
“a)” and “b)” – because apparently there is a bug where ZEROHOUR is not
correctly included in the “TESTSFAILED” variable, but instead it is somehow
“appended” behind it!

 

The power of Declude is to be able to tightly configure (through various
options) how weights are assigned and (with the help of “TESTSFAILED”
filters) which groupings of tests might be testing/triggering on the same
“aspect” of a message. Currently ZEROHOUR appears to negate all the other
advantages of Declude!

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV

2009-06-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi David:

The best is http://oss.netfarm.it/clamav - because it's the same one ClamWin
is using and it's kept up-to-date. I don't recall any installation
difficulty. It did have a successful installer and is able to install itself
as a service. 
There is a .REG file that sets up a registry entry where the path is stored.

In their registry, I chose to change the following (because I wanted to keep
the CONF files and the DB files out of the program code):

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ClamAV]
ConfigDir=C:\\Progra~1\\ClamAV\\conf
DataDir=C:\\Progra~1\\ClamAV\\db

For FreshClam.conf, I changed these parameters to match my preference:

DatabaseDirectory C:\Program Files\clamAV\db
UpdateLogFile C:\Program Files\clamAV\log\freshclam.log
LogTime yes

For ClamD.conf, I changed these:

LogFile C:\Program Files\clamAV\log\clamd.log
LogTime yes
TemporaryDirectory C:\Temp
DatabaseDirectory C:\Program Files\clamAV\db

For the service, I removed the spaces from the path (not sure if this was
needed):

C:\Progra~1\ClamAV\clamd.exe --daemon

In Declude, I used:

#ClamAV
SCANFILE1   C:\Progra~1\ClamAV\ClamDScan.exe
VIRUSCODE1  1

Of course, that still leaves the problem of Declude having no decent virus
report file parser (if you care about seeing the proper virus name in the
proper location of the log files). For now, I still use a middleware to
reformat the Report file before feeding it to Declude.  If you don't care
about names, then this isn't necessary.

Best Regards,
Andy


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From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Dodell
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:26 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] ClamAV

I'm using an older version of ClamAV that needs to be updated as a  
backup scanner.Unfortunately, it is no longer being developed.

Has anyone tried the ClamID from ArmResearch or any other version of  
ClamAV that is current that works with Declude?

David


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RE: [Declude.Virus] ZEROHOUR, scanner order

2009-06-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi David:

 

Thanks. The Global.cfg configures the Declude.Junkmail - but you said it was
implemented as Declude.Virus. So any configuration would go into the
Virus.cfg file. It seems to me as if it's implemented in some fashion in
both ends.

 

 In the Declude EVA the ZEROHOUR is part of the internal scanner process
and I will need to look at the code to determine the order of scanning but I
will get back to you on this. 

Based on log entries/detection it appears as if it first checks ZEROHOUR,
then AVG, then launches the external scanners.

 

Sorry for all the questions - just trying to wrap my arms around the new
way that everything is behaving now - as it's inconsistent with what I have
had in place all these years (both in Junkmail, which relies on TESTSFAILED
to control actions) and in Virus (which relies on virus name detection to
control what actions to take).

 

(Seems as if ZEROHOUR was added by a developer who wasn't yet
familiar/briefed with what was already in place elsewhere in the product,
and just came up with his/her own way of doing things instead of integration
with the existing features.)

 

Thanks,

Andy

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 10:34 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] ZEROHOUR, scanner order

 

Commtouch Zerohour identifies virus' based on traffic patterns rather than
signatures this is why it is not associated with a name. There is only one
option currently for Commtouch - in the global.cfg

 

ZEROHOUR   x

 

Where x is the weight assigned if ZEROHOUR is triggered. 

 

In the Declude EVA the ZEROHOUR is part of the internal scanner process and
I will need to look at the code to determine the order of scanning but I
will get back to you on this. 

David



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RE: [Declude.Virus] ZEROHOUR, scanner order

2009-06-08 Thread Andy Schmidt
Fair enough!

 

Looks like a good service in general - hopefully, the implementation can be
cleaned up at some point.

 

Thanks,

Andy

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 11:10 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] ZEROHOUR, scanner order

 

Andy,

 

It is implemented in the Declude virus but because the spam function
overlaps into junkmail and the spam weighting system is in junkmail the
weight is specified in the global.cfg  - as you can see it is more as  a
directive than a test. Secondly you are correct about the developer who
integrated Commtouch. This was before I took over the managment of Declude
and it is suffice to say he is no longer with Declude either.

 

David

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 11:02 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] ZEROHOUR, scanner order

 

Hi David:

 

Thanks. The Global.cfg configures the Declude.Junkmail - but you said it was
implemented as Declude.Virus. So any configuration would go into the
Virus.cfg file. It seems to me as if it's implemented in some fashion in
both ends.

 

 In the Declude EVA the ZEROHOUR is part of the internal scanner process
and I will need to look at the code to determine the order of scanning but I
will get back to you on this. 

Based on log entries/detection it appears as if it first checks ZEROHOUR,
then AVG, then launches the external scanners.

 

Sorry for all the questions - just trying to wrap my arms around the new
way that everything is behaving now - as it's inconsistent with what I have
had in place all these years (both in Junkmail, which relies on TESTSFAILED
to control actions) and in Virus (which relies on virus name detection to
control what actions to take).

 

(Seems as if ZEROHOUR was added by a developer who wasn't yet
familiar/briefed with what was already in place elsewhere in the product,
and just came up with his/her own way of doing things instead of integration
with the existing features.)

 

Thanks,

Andy

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 10:34 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] ZEROHOUR, scanner order

 

Commtouch Zerohour identifies virus' based on traffic patterns rather than
signatures this is why it is not associated with a name. There is only one
option currently for Commtouch - in the global.cfg

 

ZEROHOUR   x

 

Where x is the weight assigned if ZEROHOUR is triggered. 

 

In the Declude EVA the ZEROHOUR is part of the internal scanner process and
I will need to look at the code to determine the order of scanning but I
will get back to you on this. 

David


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner missing most viruses

2009-06-04 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Serge:

 

http://www.invariantsystems.com/dlanalyzer/

 

EXTREMELY helpful in assessing the performance of certain spam tests, seeing
which users are being targeted by viruses, which IP addresses are the top
spammers and which ones are virus sources.

 

And, you can generate per person or per domain reports to show a company how
effective you protect them.

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Serge
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 6:42 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner missing most viruses

 

Hello Andy

how are these reports generated ?

is this something built in into declude ? or some add on sw ?


TIA

 

- Original Message - 

From: Andy mailto:andy_schm...@hm-software.com  Schmidt 

To: declude.virus@declude.com 

Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:58 PM

Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner missing most viruses

 

Hi,

 

With the new build, AVG is finally working again and catching most of the
viruses:

 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (Integrated AVG Scanner)


Total Messages Processed: 21,119
Virus Infected Messages: 159
Percentage Infected: 0.75%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



DOWNLOADER.GENERIC8.AQNV

132

0.63%



PAKES.DRC

12

0.06%



WIN32/CRYPTOR

9

0.04%



I-WORM/NETSKY.X

4

0.02%



WIN32/VIRUT.A

2

0.01%



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (ClamAV)


Total Messages Processed: 21,119
Virus Infected Messages: 3
Percentage Infected: 0.01%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



TROJAN.ZBOT-3428

3

0.01%



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (McAfee VirusScan)


Total Messages Processed: 21,119
Virus Infected Messages: 0
Percentage Infected: 0.00%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



No Records Matched Your Criteria



 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:45 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner missing most viruses
Sensitivity: Personal

 

Hi,

 

For a while, AVG was doing an adequate job - but recently it again has been
missing virtually all infected emails that ClamAV and the trusted McAfee are
identifying.

 

I inspected several of the held files - and each one clearly was a life
virus (e.g., inside a ZIP attachment etc.)

 



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (Integrated AVG Scanner)


Total Messages Processed: 21,157
Virus Infected Messages: 0
Percentage Infected: 0.00%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



No Records Matched Your Criteria



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (ClamAV)


Total Messages Processed: 21,157
Virus Infected Messages: 3
Percentage Infected: 0.01%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



SUSPECT.DOUBLEEXTENSION-ZIPPWD-2

2

0.01%



WORM.BAGLE-1

1

0.00%



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (McAfee VirusScan)


Total Messages Processed: 21,157
Virus Infected Messages: 29
Percentage Infected: 0.14%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



TROJAN OR VARIANT NEW MALWARE.JJ !!!

22

0.10%



PWS-ZBOT TROJAN !!!

7

0.03%



 

Best Regards,

Andy


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RE: [Declude.Virus] CommTouch, External Scanners, Marketplace

2009-06-04 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave,

 

Could you please elaborate on that:

 

 In addition we have ZEROHOUR as a option for Perpetual license customers
as an additional  virus scanners providing ZEROHOUR protection and
additional spam definitions. For the amount of money that this is being
offered for it is a wise investment. 

 

Yesterday you indicated, in your breakdown of annual fees, you indicated
that my annual fees were 50% higher than 5 years ago (which I have been
paying without complaint), because my fees now PAID for feature. I wasn't
aware of that. Is there something special that I have to do to turn this on?
(I'm assuming: If I'm paying for it every year, I should be entitled to use
it?)

 

 It would be good to run more than 1 virus scanner for several reasons 

 

As far as external scanners - one desirable feature for your current
full-time developer would be to implement ClamLib und the Sniffer API so
that they do NOT require launching yet another command line program, which
chips away from the system heap - and causes severe overhead. 

 

 Mr/s Customer how much more are you willing to pay so that we can
invest in more resources in order to develop a better product?  

 

As far as the market place and how much to pay - I tend to compare Declude
to ORF (http://www.vamsoft.com/orfee_order.asp), which I both pay for. One
for Imail the other for IIS SMTP. Both have interfaces to external tools
(Sniffer, ClamAV, McAfee), both check SPF, DNS blacklists, URI Blacklists,
both have the ability to define RegEx custom filters.

 

The difference: for the lesser annual fees, ORF has been growing its
business by delivering versions with new features for as many years as I
have been a user. They even have a voting system where their paying
customers can express preferences which features are most important to them:
http://www.vamsoft.com/features/default.asp.  

 

Or, let's look at Sniffer: for $495.00/year you have a company that has
people actively improving their signatures several times EACH day PLUS
they still manage to put out significant new versions.

 

So don't falsely accuse us that we're unwilling to pay sufficient fees to
support one full time developer. I pay that many times over for spam/virus
filtering to various vendors - I even pay for DLAnalyzer and invURIBL, money
that Declude could and should have earned if they had added reporting and
URIBL scanning into the product. Then YOU would be getting the annual fees
I'm paying them!

I say it again: The budget is clearly there. The difference is, other
vendors invest that money into the product I pay for! Declude is the only
product that's been taking these fees for years and has NOT progressed the
product, forcing me to pay extra for add-ons - and now is expecting that we
should trust yet another incarnation of a new business model to pay us
first, then we deliver. There's only so much up front investing that your
investors (=customers) are willing to do before they want to see results.

 

Best Regards,

Andy Schmidt

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:03 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

 

Sorry no marketing department to give you the warm and fuzzy spin, just me.

 

Couple of suggestions. Declude has the ability to run upto 5 additional cmd
line scanners of your choice, we provide AVG as a courtesy to our customers
as in the past Declude did not have any internal virus scanner, you would
have to go out and purchase that separately

 

It would be good to run more than 1 virus scanner for several reasons, one
of which is failure of an AV scanner, (admittedly in this instance failure
was on our part) But rest assured false positives, no virus signatures, lag
time are problems ALL AV vendors are faced with. There are some that are
free that work extremely well ClamWin or ClamAV is an example of this.

 

In addition we have ZEROHOUR as a option for Perpetual license customers as
an additional  virus scanners providing ZEROHOUR protection and additional
spam definitions. For the amount of money that this is being offered for it
is a wise investment. If you opted out of this because you didn't want to
spend the extra few $ on security then you have different issues and it's
not Declude.

 

Lastly Patrick please contact supp...@declude.com having looked at your host
record it does not look like you are receiving any AV updates - it could be
that your firewall is blocking the AV updates, our support can work with you
to fix that.


Thanks
David 

 



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[Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

Dave - so now that we have a working Declude Virus again, what can be done
to prevent this from recurring.

 

a)   Apparently Declude Virus has no error tracking in place at all -
otherwise it would have REPORTED to us (or your own Declude to your own mail
server) that the AVG API was no longer performing scans?

 

b)   Do the customers need to set a follow-up reminder for December
2010, which is when your new renewed AVG license will expire?

 

The old DecludeProc had THIS AVG License String:

 

LicBeg, Ver=1.0, Name=Declude, Exp=2009-04-10

 

So this implies, that the product was inoperable since April 10th for every
customer because Declude didn't obtain a new annual AVG license and had to
wait a few days for this transaction to complete? That means the product
was unusable for 13% of the year?

 

This can't just be brushed aside quietly. 

 

Best Regards,

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

Oh, now you really got me going.

 

 Declude Virus does not have a built in system to report this error as
with this specific example 

 

The problem is not the hard-coded expiration itself. Clearly, when this API
(including the hardcoded expiry) was originally implemented, the fact that
there was an expiry was a known fact to that developer - cause (s)he added
it. Whoever wrote this API implementation simply was too lazy to properly
handle and report on the condition that absolutely was going to occur with
100% certainty on 4/10. That's a programming 101 and this flaw must be
fixed, not discussed. It's when an Anti-Virus product doesn't report that
it has decided to stop detecting viruses.

 

 how much more are you prepared to pay for your service agreement 

 

Nice try, but to me, money is secondary to function. I rather would pay
appropriate maintenance for a product that is enhanced with features (as it
was in the first few years when I had purchased it) than to pay a lesser
annual maintenance for a dormant product! However, I'm NOT willing to pay a
company just so that they can pursue OTHER technical, legal and marketing
ventures INSTEAD of enhancing the product.

 

The problem with Declude is that they lost focus - this instance makes this
painfully obvious!

 

 increase our prices dramatically so we can hire more developers 

 

Let's get real. I remember looking at your web site a while ago and seeing a
huge roster of management. I also remember web site project and other
products being launched and initating legal actions. Here's what you need:

 

Start laying off managers and other supervisory staff, cut the retainers for
your attorneys, etc.  and don't stop until you have enough money to finally
pay ONE full time developer that actually works on continually enhancing the
product we are all paying for and gets as much done as the original author
of the product did for YEARS. Once caught up with 3 years of backlog, then
sell me the upgrade!)

 

You don't need additional personnel - you to need replace
overhead-personnel with production personnel.

 

I suspect the problem is not lack of funds but diversion of it.

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:07 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
Sensitivity: Personal

 

Andy,

 

a.   Declude Virus does not have a built in system to report this error
as with this specific example. What happened here is not the norm but an
exception.  It was not our choice to hard code the expiration date but a
requirement from AVG. In this instance the specific persons who we had been
working with at AVG are no longer with the company and the process of having
this renewed took longer than usual. 

 

b.  I am not sure if you are being facetious, but if it makes you feel
better, sure you can schedule a reminder for me,  please email me at least 3
month prior of the new expiration date 2010-12-31 

 

c.   Yes AVG was not working as it should have been since 2009-04-10 I
agree with you -  this is totally unacceptable, intolerable, painful and
should not be brushed aside lightly. You are correct in your observations,
we should increase our prices dramatically so we can hire more developers to
ensure unfortunate incidents like this don't happen again.  Considering the
market and what other vendors charge how much more are you prepared to pay
for your service agreement so that we can meet this type of requirement ?

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:08 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
Importance: High
Sensitivity: Personal

 

Hi,

 

Dave - so now that we have a working Declude Virus again, what can be done
to prevent this from recurring.

 

a)   Apparently Declude Virus has no error tracking in place at all -
otherwise it would have REPORTED to us (or your own Declude to your own mail
server) that the AVG API was no longer performing scans?

 

b)   Do the customers need to set a follow-up reminder for December
2010, which is when your new renewed AVG license will expire?

 

The old DecludeProc had THIS AVG License String:

 

LicBeg, Ver=1.0, Name=Declude, Exp=2009-04-10

 

So this implies, that the product was inoperable since April 10th for every
customer because Declude didn't obtain a new annual AVG license and had to
wait a few days for this transaction to complete? That means the product
was unusable for 13% of the year?

 

This can't just be brushed aside quietly. 

 

Best Regards,

Andy 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
 unfortunate incidents like this don't happen again.  Considering the
market and what other vendors charge how much more are you prepared to pay
for your service agreement so that we can meet this type of requirement ?

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:08 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
Importance: High
Sensitivity: Personal

 

Hi,

 

Dave - so now that we have a working Declude Virus again, what can be done
to prevent this from recurring.

 

a)   Apparently Declude Virus has no error tracking in place at all -
otherwise it would have REPORTED to us (or your own Declude to your own mail
server) that the AVG API was no longer performing scans?

 

b)   Do the customers need to set a follow-up reminder for December
2010, which is when your new renewed AVG license will expire?

 

The old DecludeProc had THIS AVG License String:

 

LicBeg, Ver=1.0, Name=Declude, Exp=2009-04-10

 

So this implies, that the product was inoperable since April 10th for every
customer because Declude didn't obtain a new annual AVG license and had to
wait a few days for this transaction to complete? That means the product
was unusable for 13% of the year?

 

This can't just be brushed aside quietly. 

 

Best Regards,

Andy 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
That's the point of the discussion. Declude added a hard-coded end-time but
didn't add a handling mechanism that deals with the event when (not IF) the
end-time was absolutely going to occur on the predescribed date.

 

Consequently there were/are only indirect ways to find out:

 

-  Infected emails reached your desktops, and/or

 

-  You had secondary scanners plus a reporting tool,
http://www.invariantsystems.com/dlanalyzer/, which made is obvious that ALL
your viruses were ONLY being caught by the secondary scanners (which is what
I have been pointing out for weeks), and/or

 

-  You check your VIRmmdd.LOG file and a scan of AVG Reports
VIRUS: finds no matches.

 

According to Declude, properly dealing with a known, hard-coded, expiry date
is not included in the annual maintenance fees but is considered  an
enhancement for which they should charge extra.

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Cummins
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:25 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
Sensitivity: Personal

 

 Darin Cox said:

 that the AVG API was no longer performing scans?

 

 David Barker said:

 Declude Virus does not have a built in system to report this error as with
this specific example.

 

Is this true?  Has my Declude virus scanner been inoperable?  

 

My Declude logs look OK, but I guess that's what you're talking about?
What's the deal?  How can I detect this misbehavior, if indeed it did occur?

 

-- Michael Cummins

 

 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
I think taking a software company to task on their lack of control DOES
benefit all users technically! 

 

I didn't introduce pricing and staffing into this discussion - YOU did! Now
you take me to task for responding to your pricing/staffing issues that YOU
raised?

 

 Let's not forget you are paying less for the product maintenance today
than you were 5 years ago 

 

1/6/2002: $295

1/14/2003: $295

1/23/2004: $295 (after having upgrading to Pro in March 2003)

1/5/2005: $264

12/30/2005: $264

8/18/2006: $309

1/19/2007: $309 

3/13/2008: $395 

6/2009: $395

 

Would you like to revise your statement? I'm not paying less, I'm paying 50%
more. No complaints - just insisting on the truth.

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:40 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
Sensitivity: Personal

 

Breathing and counting to 10 .  ;)

 

 Whoever wrote this API implementation simply was too lazy to properly
handle and report on the condition that absolutely was going to occur with
100% certainty on 4/10. That's a programming 101 and this flaw must be
fixed, not discussed. It's when an Anti-Virus product doesn't report that
it has decided to stop detecting viruses.

 

In coding Utopia yes that is true. I was unaware of this situation till now.
I would fire the person who implemented this but we had already let them go
over 2 years ago. I get what you are saying, I just don't think you
understand when I say I have heard you Andy, you can stop posting to the
lists about this

 

 Nice try, but to me, money is secondary to function. 

 

Nice dodge!

 

I rather would pay appropriate maintenance for a product that is enhanced
with features (as it was in the first few years when I had purchased it)
than to pay a lesser annual maintenance for a dormant product! 

 

Ah the good old days of Scott Perry.  Let's not forget you are paying less
for the product maintenance today than you were 5 years ago. Dormant ? or
not the fixes and features you want? 

 

However, I'm NOT willing to pay a company just so that they can pursue
OTHER technical, legal and marketing ventures INSTEAD of enhancing the
product. The problem with Declude is that they lost focus - this instance
makes this painfully obvious!

 

What are you talking about ?

 

Let's get real. I remember looking at your web site a while ago and seeing
a huge roster of management. I also remember web site project and other
products being launched and initating legal actions. Here's what you need
Start laying off managers and other supervisory staff, cut the retainers for
your attorneys, etc.  and don't stop until you have enough money to finally
pay ONE full time developer that actually works on continually enhancing
the product we are all paying for and gets as much done as the original
author of the product did for YEARS. Once caught up with 3 years of backlog,
then sell me the upgrade!) 

You don't need additional personnel - you to need replace
overhead-personnel with production personnel.

 

Wrong. Declude is a separate company from DNSStuff. Our (Declude) revenues
are solely committed to maintaining and growing this company. 

 

I suspect the problem is not lack of funds but diversion of it.

 

Oh wait.  that's a good one. I think the best way to answer this just is to
say your suspicion is incorrect.  

 

Finaly the purpose for these lists is mostly for tech questions and
assisting other users. Your initial posts about AVG were fine, but if you
want to get into what you think  Declude should be doing as a company
either email me or call me directly. 

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 



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RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Fair enough.

 

For this particular case: If AVG requires a fix license date, then add an
alert mechanism so that customers (specially those who might not upgrade
until 12/2010) will receive an explicit notice that their Declude Virus is
inactive!  The log file would be the minimum - but ideally a postmaster
email to an admin email address in one of the Declude config files.

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:50 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

 

Maybe I am misunderstanding you but the AVG issue that occurred has been
resolved, and should have never happened, now let's move on to the real
issue at hand ... I am challenged with, how do I prevent such issues
occurring in the future? As my resources are currently maxed what are my
options ..? Suggestions ?

 

David

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:42 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

 

Let's turn this around:

 

 however if customers expect more than what is currently being delivered
then I have to ask the question, in clear, open and honest communication..
Mr/s Customer how much more are you willing to pay so that we can invest
in more resources in order to develop a better product?

 

How much more than 100% of the annual fee are customers expected to pay
before Declude considers them entitled to expect to use the product (close
to) 100% of the time - instead of 87%?

 

The point is, this was a major mess up and the problem was absolutely poor
programming practice (hard-coding a time limit without adding code to deal
with the reaching of that limit). And your response is: Pay us more if you
want us to use remotely reasonably normal programming practice?

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:14 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

 

Darin,

 

I accept your constructive criticism. With regard to the situation;

 

1.   We recognize that this was a serious failure

2.   The issue was highlighted and resolved in the quickest possible
time

3.   Procedural steps have been put in place to ensure that this does
not happen again.

4.   This was an unfortunate circumstance and I understand the
frustration on the part of Declude customers

5.   We make every effort to meet the needs of our customers

 

My statement regarding increased prices has less to do with this current
problem as it has to do with moving forward and preventing issues like this
in the future. More $ means more resources which means more can be done
which equates to less risk in all areas.  Declude has given good service,
value for money and a product that works for minimum $. I understand that
the expectation is always more for less, however if customers expect more
than what is currently being delivered then I have to ask the question, in
clear, open and honest communication..

 

Mr/s Customer how much more are you willing to pay so that we can invest
in more resources in order to develop a better product?

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Darin
Cox
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:50 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

 

Wow, what a way to respond to a long-time, loyal paying customer!  Instead
of apologizing for the serious problem and relaying what steps are being
taken to avoid it happening again (a simple reminder in the calendar system
of your choice would suffice), it's being thrown back in the customer's
face.

 

Regarding the question of increasing prices for service agreements, that has
no bearing on a current customer who has already paid the fees.  Such
customers should expect the service they paid for to be rendered.  Failure
to do so is a breach of agreement on Declude's part.  While we are all human
and problems can occur, this is a serious failure, and the tone of the
response being putative instead of apologetic makes customers less
forgiving, not more.

 

To be frank, many customers are asking what they are paying for, when fix
and feature requests take months to be released, or not at all.

 

I understand the situation may be frustrating, but it's often best to step
back for a moment, vent elsewhere if needed, then respond professionally to
customers.  Clear, open, and honest communication also helps.

 

Please don't take this email as incendiary.  It is meant to be constructive.

 

Darin

RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?

2009-06-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Didn't realize I was paying for CommTouch ZEROHOUR and for Hijack?

 

How do I turn on CommTouch, since apparently I've been paying for its
maintenance since at least 2008?

 

No, I am NOT complaining about the amounts. I've many times forced money on
various developers because I want them to be well funded so that they will
be motivated to proceed.  I'm complaining about the lack of delivering added
features. I say it again: Money is secondary to me to function.

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:50 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
Sensitivity: Personal

 

Here is the full breakdown.

 

The Good ol'  Days



EVA - Service Agreement $195.00


JunkMail - Service Agreement   $195.00


HiJack - Service Agreement $75.00

 

Total: $465

 

Today



EVA - Service Agreement


JunkMail - Service Agreement


HiJack - Service Agreement

AVG virus scanner

Commtouch ZEROHOUR Antivirus + Spam definitions 

 

Total: $395

 

So you have a whole lot more for less money, and yes you are complaining.


David

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:12 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
Sensitivity: Personal

 

I think taking a software company to task on their lack of control DOES
benefit all users technically! 

 

I didn't introduce pricing and staffing into this discussion - YOU did! Now
you take me to task for responding to your pricing/staffing issues that YOU
raised?

 

 Let's not forget you are paying less for the product maintenance today
than you were 5 years ago 

 

1/6/2002: $295

1/14/2003: $295

1/23/2004: $295 (after having upgrading to Pro in March 2003)

1/5/2005: $264

12/30/2005: $264

8/18/2006: $309

1/19/2007: $309 

3/13/2008: $395 

6/2009: $395

 

Would you like to revise your statement? I'm not paying less, I'm paying 50%
more. No complaints - just insisting on the truth.

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:40 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Virus inoperable for 13% of th year?
Sensitivity: Personal

 

Breathing and counting to 10 .  ;)

 

 Whoever wrote this API implementation simply was too lazy to properly
handle and report on the condition that absolutely was going to occur with
100% certainty on 4/10. That's a programming 101 and this flaw must be
fixed, not discussed. It's when an Anti-Virus product doesn't report that
it has decided to stop detecting viruses.

 

In coding Utopia yes that is true. I was unaware of this situation till now.
I would fire the person who implemented this but we had already let them go
over 2 years ago. I get what you are saying, I just don't think you
understand when I say I have heard you Andy, you can stop posting to the
lists about this

 

 Nice try, but to me, money is secondary to function. 

 

Nice dodge!

 

I rather would pay appropriate maintenance for a product that is enhanced
with features (as it was in the first few years when I had purchased it)
than to pay a lesser annual maintenance for a dormant product! 

 

Ah the good old days of Scott Perry.  Let's not forget you are paying less
for the product maintenance today than you were 5 years ago. Dormant ? or
not the fixes and features you want? 

 

However, I'm NOT willing to pay a company just so that they can pursue
OTHER technical, legal and marketing ventures INSTEAD of enhancing the
product. The problem with Declude is that they lost focus - this instance
makes this painfully obvious!

 

What are you talking about ?

 

Let's get real. I remember looking at your web site a while ago and seeing
a huge roster of management. I also remember web site project and other
products being launched and initating legal actions. Here's what you need
Start laying off managers and other supervisory staff, cut the retainers for
your attorneys, etc.  and don't stop until you have enough money to finally
pay ONE full time developer that actually works on continually enhancing
the product we are all paying for and gets as much done as the original
author of the product did for YEARS. Once caught up with 3 years of backlog,
then sell me the upgrade!) 

You don't need additional personnel - you to need replace
overhead-personnel with production personnel.

 

Wrong. Declude is a separate company from DNSStuff. Our (Declude) revenues
are solely committed to maintaining and growing this company. 

 

I suspect the problem is not lack of funds but diversion of it.

 

Oh wait.  that's a good one. I think the best way to answer this just is to
say your

RE: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner missing most viruses

2009-05-15 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Andrew:

 

 scanner being the main line of defense is dead . . . it's just that most
people don't know it yet

 

Well - today there were 80 or so infected emails that would have gone
through. While AV scanning may not be the main line, it certainly is still
a crucial element. Just ONE email raises the chance that some uninformed end
user and one of our customers could get their entire network taken over and
could cost man-days to rebuild systems that were infected by root-kits.

 

Look at last night's statistics - the bad guys certainly knew how to
beat AVG. But my other two scanners are NOT beaten - and that's my daily
experience. So there is a pattern here that just can't be ignored!

 

My thinking is - ClamAV and McAfee are being updated many times daily
(because I control the updating process) - so any new virus variants are
caught quickly.  I have no control over how often AVG is being updated?  If
they are only updated daily, then (in today's times) that rendering AVG
worthless. What's even more disconcerting is the fact that some of these
missed virus names appear for days at a time - so even AFTER a daily update,
AVG is missing those.

 

I'm not impressed by whatever comparisons were taken a year or more ago.
Version numbers mean very little. The key is the date/timestamp of the
signature file.  You can get any comparison result you want, if you don't
use the most current hourly signature files for each product.

 

I have no hidden agenda - but I can tell you that in all the years that I've
been watching this, AVG is easily been outperformed by the other two
scanners I use, at least for the mix of viruses that MY many hundreds of end
users are targeted with.

 

 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (Integrated AVG Scanner)


Total Messages Processed: 22,303
Virus Infected Messages: 0
Percentage Infected: 0.00%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



No Records Matched Your Criteria



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (ClamAV)


Total Messages Processed: 22,303
Virus Infected Messages: 154
Percentage Infected: 0.69%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



EMAIL.TROJAN-99

88

0.39%



HTML.PHISHING.BANK-218

28

0.13%



EMAIL.TROJAN-98

12

0.05%



EMAIL.PHISHING.BANK-101

8

0.04%



SUSPECT.DOUBLEEXTENSION-ZIPPWD-2

8

0.04%



WORM.BAGLE-1

7

0.03%



WORM.BAGLE-ZIPPWD-24

2

0.01%



HTML.PHISHING.BANK-1127

1

0.00%



 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Colbeck,
Andrew
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:19 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner missing most viruses
Sensitivity: Personal

 

http://www.processor.com/editorial/article.asp?article=articles/P3110/25p10/
25p10.asp

 

The day of the [AV] scanner being the main line of defense is dead . . .
it's just that most people don't know it yet, says AVG's Thompson. Last
year alone, AVG added more than 650,000 signatures to its antivirus engine.
There are 20,000 to 30,000 unique binary samples every day. The bad guys
know how to beat a scanner.

 

Interesting and timely commentary.

 

For what it's worth, I find the blocking options in Declude Virus to be as
useful as the actual scanner, but I don't have the hard numbers to back up
that statement.

 

I do have to depend on the scanners when the bad guys use malware PDFs or
other documents. In general, the bad guys have taught email users to be
surprised if they can send a program or even a script via email.

 

 

Andrew.

 

 

 

 

  _  

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:44 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner missing most viruses
Sensitivity: Personal

Andy,

 

The process of virus signatures being made available is an automated process
this issue was already resolved in January as I said it would be. As soon as
virus definitions are available from AVG they become available to Declude
users. As you can see with the data that we have provided regarding AVG the
signature file date is matches yours which is 5/13/2009. The bottom line is
AVG did not detect this specific virus.  

 

Here is some data from tests done last year with regard different AV
scanners and their accuracy, again this data is about 1 year old but it can
give you a good idea. Another option is to consider using our offering of
Commtouch which has the ZEROHOUR
http://www.commtouch.com/zero-hour-virus-outbreak-protection-sdk  protection
against new viruses. 

 

Rank 

1. G DATA 2008 version 18.2.7310.844 - 99.05% 

2. F-Secure 2008 version 8.00.103 - 98.75% 

3. TrustPort version 2.8.0.1835 - 98.06% 

4. Kaspersky version 8.0.0.357 - 97.95% 

5. eScan version 9.0.742.1 - 97.44% 

6. The Shield 2008 - 97.43% 

7. AntiVir version 8.1.00.331 Premium - 97.13% 

8. Ashampoo version 1.61 - 97.09% 

9. Ikarus version 1.0.82 - 96.05% 

10. AntiVir version 8.1.00.295 Classic - 95.54% 

11. AVG version 8.0.100 Free - 94.85% 

12. 

[Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner missing most viruses

2009-05-13 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

For a while, AVG was doing an adequate job - but recently it again has been
missing virtually all infected emails that ClamAV and the trusted McAfee are
identifying.

 

I inspected several of the held files - and each one clearly was a life
virus (e.g., inside a ZIP attachment etc.)

 



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (Integrated AVG Scanner)


Total Messages Processed: 21,157
Virus Infected Messages: 0
Percentage Infected: 0.00%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



No Records Matched Your Criteria



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (ClamAV)


Total Messages Processed: 21,157
Virus Infected Messages: 3
Percentage Infected: 0.01%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



SUSPECT.DOUBLEEXTENSION-ZIPPWD-2

2

0.01%



WORM.BAGLE-1

1

0.00%



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (McAfee VirusScan)


Total Messages Processed: 21,157
Virus Infected Messages: 29
Percentage Infected: 0.14%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



TROJAN OR VARIANT NEW MALWARE.JJ !!!

22

0.10%



PWS-ZBOT TROJAN !!!

7

0.03%



 

Best Regards,

Andy



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RE: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner missing most viruses

2009-05-13 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave,

 

No problem. 5 viruses have been sent to your Support email address - each of
which was detected by either ClamAV, the secondary scanner, or if ClamAV
missed it, then at least McAfee the last resort scanner.

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:27 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner missing most viruses
Sensitivity: Personal

 

Hi Andy,

 

If you are having issues please submit a support ticket supp...@declude.com
with any appropriate information so we can look into this for you. 

 

Thanks

 

David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
 mailto:dbar...@declude.com dbar...@declude.com

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:45 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Internal Scanner missing most viruses
Sensitivity: Personal

 

Hi,

 

For a while, AVG was doing an adequate job - but recently it again has been
missing virtually all infected emails that ClamAV and the trusted McAfee are
identifying.

 

I inspected several of the held files - and each one clearly was a life
virus (e.g., inside a ZIP attachment etc.)

 



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (Integrated AVG Scanner)


Total Messages Processed: 21,157
Virus Infected Messages: 0
Percentage Infected: 0.00%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



No Records Matched Your Criteria



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (ClamAV)


Total Messages Processed: 21,157
Virus Infected Messages: 3
Percentage Infected: 0.01%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



SUSPECT.DOUBLEEXTENSION-ZIPPWD-2

2

0.01%



WORM.BAGLE-1

1

0.00%



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (McAfee VirusScan)


Total Messages Processed: 21,157
Virus Infected Messages: 29
Percentage Infected: 0.14%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



TROJAN OR VARIANT NEW MALWARE.JJ !!!

22

0.10%



PWS-ZBOT TROJAN !!!

7

0.03%



 

Best Regards,

Andy


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RE: [Declude.Virus] OT - looking for a command line email tool - with attachments

2009-05-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Alex,

 

I can't imagine that any email tool that is able to send an attachment would
go inside your PDF file and certainly wouldn't delete anything (such as
the embedded font) out of the single attachment. I rather would expect that
there is a difference in the environment on the server and the environment
on the workstations (such as different operating systems, different Acrobat
Reader versions, etc. that account for the different viewing experience).

 

What if you copy the PDF file from the server to the workstation that has
the problem. If the email worked correctly, the copy your emailed to the
workstation should be binary identical to the file you copied from the
server. If you now open the copy from the server, I would expect that you'll
have the same problem.

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

 

 

From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Hirthe,
Alexander
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:57 AM
To: 'declude.virus@declude.com'
Subject: [Declude.Virus] OT - looking for a command line email tool - with
attachments

 

Hello,

 

can anyone help me? 

 

I'm looking for a command line tool to send mail (within our company)
including an attachment. 

(I want to forward the incoming fax to the inbox of the user :)  

 

I can create the pdf, put it in a directory and now I only need a command
line mailer *with* attachment.

 

I tried different tools now, the best sent me the mail and the embedded pdf
font was missing :-/ 

if I open the pdf on the server it's all working. 

 

?

 

Alex

 

 

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Vorstand: Prof. H.-F. Siller (Vorsitzender), Joern Buelow, Ralf Michi
Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Dr. Peter Baumeister
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[Declude.Virus] Ouch AVG is missing new Viruses again, big time!

2009-04-15 Thread Andy Schmidt
ClamAV and my trusted last defense McAfee catches them (both updated at
least hourly):

 

 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (Integrated AVG Scanner)


Total Messages Processed: 21,402
Virus Infected Messages: 0
Percentage Infected: 0.00%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



No Records Matched Your Criteria



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (ClamAV)


Total Messages Processed: 21,402
Virus Infected Messages: 11
Percentage Infected: 0.05%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



TROJAN.ZBOT-3279

7

0.03%



WORM.BAGLE-1

2

0.01%



WORM.BAGLE.GV

1

0.00%



WORM.MYDOOM.I

1

0.00%



 


Virus Scanner Summary Report (McAfee VirusScan)


Total Messages Processed: 21,402
Virus Infected Messages: 35
Percentage Infected: 0.16%


VIRUS

# INFECTED

PERCENTAGE



PWS-ZBOT TROJAN !!!

31

0.14%



GENERIC PWS.Y TROJAN !!!

4

0.02%



 

 

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
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RE: [Declude.Virus] AVG update

2008-12-29 Thread Andy Schmidt
Thank you - that is helpful for our understanding.

Would it be practical to take the human element out of the loop and just
have a scheduled script use WGET or similar batch application check for an
updated file on their HTTP server every hour? If the returncode indicates a
new file, download it and make it available without needing manual
intervention?

That's how many of us retrieve signature updates for third party scanners
several times daily.

-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 3:11 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] AVG update

An FYI on the AV process.

Declude receives from AVG an email (example below) this is typically once
per day. On occasion we may get several per day or one in two days. As soon
as this email is received we download the latest definitions to our AVG
server and the definitions are available for your Decludeproc to retrieve.
Now depending on when this last check was done by your Declude - will
determine when you will get the AV sigs or what the time difference is
between release and update.



The following virus database update has been prepared for you to download. 

--- SDK VDB Update Description ---
New Viruses: 
New Trojans: 
New Virus Variants: 
New Trojan Variants: Agent.ARGZ, Downloader.Zlob.AIFA, Generic12.AGYE,
BackDoor.Hupigon4.AXIM, Agent.ARLN, BackDoor.Generic10.AFRU

--- SDK VDB Update Files ---
avgsdk_ivdb2422.zip
avgsdk_vdb2422.zip

--- SDK VDB version.nfo ---
VDB_RELEASE_VERSION: 2422
PREVIOUS_VDB_RELEASE_VERSION: 2421
SEVERITY: critical
VDB_RELEASE_DATE: 2008-12-28 14:23
MODIFIED: microavi.avg
MODIFIED: incavi.avm
VDB_FILES_VERSION: 270.10.1/1867
REQUIRED_BIN_RELEASE_VERSION: 1.3.510

--- SDK VDB Update Notification End ---



David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 office
978.988.1311 fax
dbar...@declude.com






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RE: [Declude.Virus] Force AVG update

2008-12-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

The general experience has been (as reported by several individuals in two
different lists over the past 3 months), that the Declude AVG updates are
frequently 48 hours behind - which means they are only effective for old
viruses. I even posted the stats for several days where it showed that every
few days new viruses were being caught by my secondary scanner (McAfee),
which truly does have hourly updates - and would have been passed through to
my desktops if I had relied on Decludes AVG scanner.

I have the feeling that changing your poll time from 4 hours to 2 will only
mean that you'll be finding out twice as often that they have a 2-day old
update.

I'm curious what the answer is - but somewhere in the back of my head I
think I had previously read that Declude will occasionally get updates from
AVG which in turn you get from them. If my recollection/understanding is
accurate, then the real frequency is controlled by Declude's server, not
yours.

Best Regards,
Andy

-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Dodell
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:00 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Force AVG update

Anyway to force declude to update the AVG files ... my dates run from  
12/17 to 12/23 ... are these really current dates?

David

(I have my update frequency set at every 2 hrs)


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Force AVG update

2008-12-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
Well, most scanners will require much more expensive licenses, e.g., a
license per mailbox, etc.

The Declude anti-virus license is a good deal - if they would just get the
technology working right!

-Original Message-
From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David
Dodell
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 2:15 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Force AVG update


On Dec 27, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Andy Schmidt wrote:

 Hi,

 The general experience has been (as reported by several individuals  
 in two
 different lists over the past 3 months), that the Declude AVG  
 updates are
 frequently 48 hours behind - which means they are only effective for  
 old
 viruses. I even posted the stats for several days where it showed  
 that every
 few days new viruses were being caught by my secondary scanner  
 (McAfee),
 which truly does have hourly updates - and would have been passed  
 through to
 my desktops if I had relied on Decludes AVG scanner.

Then I guess, is it worth for me to renew my Declude support ...  
things run pretty much very smoothly now, the spam tests are all  
external engines, and was only keeping Declude update to get the AVG  
updates ... with budget cuts, maybe I should be investing into a  
secondary scanner versus a Declude contract?

What can I get for the same pricing $395 or less since this is all we  
have budgeted.

David


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Invalid Zip Vulnerability

2008-03-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
I have since determined that this email simply did have corrupted zip files.

 

My problem was NOT that those emails were held – but rather that it referred to 
an undocumented vulnerability that we weren’t able to intelligent discuss with 
the client (it’s not on our “list” of vulnerability explanations).

 

I also heard back from Declude that they will research that vulnerability check 
in the source code to learn more about it, and hopefully they will then add 
whatever information they’ll learn into the documentation.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:54 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Invalid Zip Vulnerability

 

No name, just the extenesion?

John T
eServices For You



-Original Message-
From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent 3/3/2008 9:30:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Invalid Zip Vulnerability

Hi,

 

I checked your KB – and it doesn’t document that vulnerability:

http://support.declude.com/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=25 
http://support.declude.com/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=25KBSearchID=11699
 KBSearchID=11699

 

I checked your manual – and it doesn’t document that vulnerability:

http://www.declude.com/searchresults.asp?Cat=124

 

However, I do have a message that fails the vulnerability:

 

   File:   [.ZIP file]

   Result: Found[Invalid ZIP Vulnerability]

 

So now I need to determine, why this ZIP file is being rejected.

 

Thanks,

Andy


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[Declude.Virus] Invalid Zip Vulnerability

2008-03-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

I checked your KB - and it doesn't document that vulnerability:

http://support.declude.com/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=25
http://support.declude.com/Customer/KBArticle.aspx?articleid=25KBSearchID=
11699 KBSearchID=11699

 

I checked your manual - and it doesn't document that vulnerability:

http://www.declude.com/searchresults.asp?Cat=124

 

However, I do have a message that fails the vulnerability:

 

   File:   [.ZIP file]

   Result: Found[Invalid ZIP Vulnerability]

 

So now I need to determine, why this ZIP file is being rejected.

 

Thanks,

Andy



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[Declude.Virus] Message without Body Held as Header Vulnerability?

2007-12-21 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

Test1 (attached SMD file) is a message with a subject but without a body.
It is held by Declude Virus with the Non Standard Header vulnerability.

However, the SAME message Test2 WITH a body is let through (see bottom of
this posting).

The header appears the same - so if the header truly was non standard,
BOTH messages should have been held.

The only difference is the lack of a message BODY.

1) Imail Log of Test 1

12:21 19:31 SMTPD(5ad901aa99dd) [71.162.228.88] EHLO sony.home
12:21 19:31 SMTPD(5ad901aa99dd) Authenticated [EMAIL PROTECTED],
session treated as local.
12:21 19:31 SMTPD(5ad901aa99dd) [71.162.228.88] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
12:21 19:31 SMTPD(5ad901aa99dd) [71.162.228.88] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
12:21 19:31 SMTPD(5ad901aa99dd) [71.162.228.88]
D:\IMail\spool\D5ad901aa99dd.SMD 563

2) Declude Log of Test 1

12/21/2007 19:31:25.987 q5ad901aa99dd.smd Vulnerability flags = 1
12/21/2007 19:31:36.612 q5ad901aa99dd.smd Non Standard Header
Vulnerability
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[MIME: 1 4]
12/21/2007 19:31:36.612 q5ad901aa99dd.smd From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [incoming from 71.162.228.88]
12/21/2007 19:31:36.612 q5ad901aa99dd.smd Subject: TEST 1
12/21/2007 19:31:43.893 q5ad901aa99dd.smd LAST ACTION: Moving file to
virus hold directory: D:\IMAIL\spool\virus

3) Test 2 message (with a body) passes Declude

12/21/2007 19:31:43.721 q5ada01aa99df.smd Skipping E-mail from
authenticated user [EMAIL PROTECTED]; whitelisted.

Received: from sony.home [71.162.228.88] by Mail.Webhost.HM-Software.com  
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Subject: TEST 2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Organization: RBLevin.net, 484-321-1133, 484-997-1300
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[Declude.JunkMail] RE: IMmail 2006.23 release notes

2007-12-10 Thread Andy Schmidt
Darrell,

I think they are using SOME Imail mailer to send the Virus, Bounce and
Postmaster notifications.

However, I DO believe there is some confusion between the .EXE that is the
mailer vs. the old .EXE that is a mailbox CLIENT software. (There used to be
an Imail client where you could read/reply messages, etc.)

Best Regards,
Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:33 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: [Declude.Virus] IMmail 2006.23 release notes

Bonno,

After Declude finishes scanning the message it passes it off to 
smtp32.exe for delivery.  I can't think of any instance where declude 
will use the imail.exe utility.

Darrell
--
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, 
Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.


Bonno Bloksma wrote:
 Hi,
  
 In the IMail 2006.23 release notes it states:
 --Quote--
 The IMail.exe Client provided in the IMail Server contained a 
 vulnerability due to a boundary error when processing emails with 
 multipart MIME data, which could potentially compromise a user's system.
  
 IMail.exe will no longer be delivered during installation.
  
 Caution: It is recommended that existing installations remove IMail.exe 
 from the IMail directory. It has been determined that utilizing this 
 feature could potentially corrupt mailboxes.
 --Quote--
  
 I seem to remember Declude used this (IMail.exe) as part of it's mail 
 delivery. Is that still true with the 4.x versions
  
 I use it to send myself mails when something happens like a sniffer 
 update. But that is just one script which I can change.
 Is there something similar that we can use?
  
 p.s. I assume they mean IMail1 as there is no IMail.exe in the IMail 
 directory.
  
  
 
 Met vriendelijke groet,
 Bonno Bloksma
 hoofd systeembeheer
 
 tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme
 begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
 t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  / www.tio.nl 
 http://www.tio.nl/
 - Original Message -
 *From:* Tom Lewis mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2007 2:28 PM
 *Subject:* RE: [IMail Forum] apimmdd.txt files
 
 The api/mmdd/.txt files are new in 9.23. There is informational logging 
 taking place that is creating these logs. They can be used by tech 
 support for diagnosing problems in the web client if they were to occur.
  
 You can get to the release notes here: 
 http://docs.ipswitch.com/IMail2006.23/ImailRelNotes/index.htm
  
 Tom Lewis
 *Ipswitch, Inc.*
 Development Manager - Messaging Products
 706-312-3573
  
 
 
 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Bonno Bloksma
 *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2007 7:27 AM
 *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Subject:* [IMail Forum] apimmdd.txt files
 
 Hi,
  
 As of IMail 2006.23 I have apimmdd.txt logfiles. However I cannot find 
 what these are for. Is this the new extra debugging for the webmail?
 There seem to be no release notes for 2006.23, at least I cannot find
them.
  
 Appart from that, everything seems to be working ok.
 
 Met vriendelijke groet,
 Bonno Bloksma
 hoofd systeembeheer
 
 tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme
 begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
 t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  / www.tio.nl 
 http://www.tio.nl
 
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[Declude.Virus] RE: IMmail 2006.23 release notes

2007-12-10 Thread Andy Schmidt
Darrell,

I think they are using SOME Imail mailer to send the Virus, Bounce and
Postmaster notifications.

However, I DO believe there is some confusion between the .EXE that is the
mailer vs. the old .EXE that is a mailbox CLIENT software. (There used to be
an Imail client where you could read/reply messages, etc.)

Best Regards,
Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:33 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: [Declude.Virus] IMmail 2006.23 release notes

Bonno,

After Declude finishes scanning the message it passes it off to 
smtp32.exe for delivery.  I can't think of any instance where declude 
will use the imail.exe utility.

Darrell
--
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, 
Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.


Bonno Bloksma wrote:
 Hi,
  
 In the IMail 2006.23 release notes it states:
 --Quote--
 The IMail.exe Client provided in the IMail Server contained a 
 vulnerability due to a boundary error when processing emails with 
 multipart MIME data, which could potentially compromise a user's system.
  
 IMail.exe will no longer be delivered during installation.
  
 Caution: It is recommended that existing installations remove IMail.exe 
 from the IMail directory. It has been determined that utilizing this 
 feature could potentially corrupt mailboxes.
 --Quote--
  
 I seem to remember Declude used this (IMail.exe) as part of it's mail 
 delivery. Is that still true with the 4.x versions
  
 I use it to send myself mails when something happens like a sniffer 
 update. But that is just one script which I can change.
 Is there something similar that we can use?
  
 p.s. I assume they mean IMail1 as there is no IMail.exe in the IMail 
 directory.
  
  
 
 Met vriendelijke groet,
 Bonno Bloksma
 hoofd systeembeheer
 
 tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme
 begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
 t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  / www.tio.nl 
 http://www.tio.nl/
 - Original Message -
 *From:* Tom Lewis mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2007 2:28 PM
 *Subject:* RE: [IMail Forum] apimmdd.txt files
 
 The api/mmdd/.txt files are new in 9.23. There is informational logging 
 taking place that is creating these logs. They can be used by tech 
 support for diagnosing problems in the web client if they were to occur.
  
 You can get to the release notes here: 
 http://docs.ipswitch.com/IMail2006.23/ImailRelNotes/index.htm
  
 Tom Lewis
 *Ipswitch, Inc.*
 Development Manager - Messaging Products
 706-312-3573
  
 
 
 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Bonno Bloksma
 *Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2007 7:27 AM
 *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Subject:* [IMail Forum] apimmdd.txt files
 
 Hi,
  
 As of IMail 2006.23 I have apimmdd.txt logfiles. However I cannot find 
 what these are for. Is this the new extra debugging for the webmail?
 There seem to be no release notes for 2006.23, at least I cannot find
them.
  
 Appart from that, everything seems to be working ok.
 
 Met vriendelijke groet,
 Bonno Bloksma
 hoofd systeembeheer
 
 tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme
 begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
 t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  / www.tio.nl 
 http://www.tio.nl
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RE: IMmail 2006.23 release notes

2007-12-10 Thread Andy Schmidt
 it could generate bounces with a null sender, and that's long overdue. 

 

Agreed!

 

There is no excuse for Declude NOT to have its own mailer - after all, there
is an Imail listening on SOME local port - it's ridiculous that the matter
of NULL senders hasn't been addresses. At LEAST make it a configuration
option to use a standard tool, such as BLAT.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 2:06 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] RE: IMmail 2006.23 release notes

 

Some of us believe that it is the IMail1.exe executable that Declude uses
and not the IMail.exe executable that is being discontinued.

Regardless, if Declude stopped using IMail1.exe, it could generate bounces
with a null sender, and that's long overdue.

Matt



Andy Schmidt wrote: 

Darrell,
 
I think they are using SOME Imail mailer to send the Virus, Bounce and
Postmaster notifications.
 
However, I DO believe there is some confusion between the .EXE that is the
mailer vs. the old .EXE that is a mailbox CLIENT software. (There used to be
an Imail client where you could read/reply messages, etc.)
 
Best Regards,
Andy
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 10:33 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Re: [Declude.Virus] IMmail 2006.23 release notes
 
Bonno,
 
After Declude finishes scanning the message it passes it off to 
smtp32.exe for delivery.  I can't think of any instance where declude 
will use the imail.exe utility.
 
Darrell
--
Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, 
Imail, mxGuard, and ORF.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.
 
 
Bonno Bloksma wrote:
  

Hi,
 
In the IMail 2006.23 release notes it states:
--Quote--
The IMail.exe Client provided in the IMail Server contained a 
vulnerability due to a boundary error when processing emails with 
multipart MIME data, which could potentially compromise a user's system.
 
IMail.exe will no longer be delivered during installation.
 
Caution: It is recommended that existing installations remove IMail.exe 
from the IMail directory. It has been determined that utilizing this 
feature could potentially corrupt mailboxes.
--Quote--
 
I seem to remember Declude used this (IMail.exe) as part of it's mail 
delivery. Is that still true with the 4.x versions
 
I use it to send myself mails when something happens like a sniffer 
update. But that is just one script which I can change.
Is there something similar that we can use?
 
p.s. I assume they mean IMail1 as there is no IMail.exe in the IMail 
directory.
 
 
 
Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
hoofd systeembeheer
 
tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  /
www.tio.nl 
 http://www.tio.nl/ http://www.tio.nl/
- Original Message -
*From:* Tom Lewis  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2007 2:28 PM
*Subject:* RE: [IMail Forum] apimmdd.txt files
 
The api/mmdd/.txt files are new in 9.23. There is informational logging 
taking place that is creating these logs. They can be used by tech 
support for diagnosing problems in the web client if they were to occur.
 
You can get to the release notes here: 
http://docs.ipswitch.com/IMail2006.23/ImailRelNotes/index.htm
 
Tom Lewis
*Ipswitch, Inc.*
Development Manager - Messaging Products
706-312-3573
 
 

*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Bonno Bloksma
*Sent:* Monday, December 10, 2007 7:27 AM
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Subject:* [IMail Forum] apimmdd.txt files
 
Hi,
 
As of IMail 2006.23 I have apimmdd.txt logfiles. However I cannot find 
what these are for. Is this the new extra debugging for the webmail?
There seem to be no release notes for 2006.23, at least I cannot find


them.
  

 
Appart from that, everything seems to be working ok.
 
Met vriendelijke groet,
Bonno Bloksma
hoofd systeembeheer
 
tio hogeschool hotelmanagement en toerisme
begijnenhof 8-12 / 5611 el eindhoven
t 040 296 28 28 / f 040 237 35 20
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  /
www.tio.nl 
 http://www.tio.nl http://www.tio.nl
 
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[Declude.Virus] RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.3.46

2007-10-18 Thread Andy Schmidt
Dave,

Lots of confusion here:

a) the subject refers to 4.3.46 - which shows up on my customer screen as
the latest RELEASE

b) however, that's less than the interim 4.3.57 that is shown on my
customer screen?

c) the body of your email refers to 4.3.64 - which would make more sense.
Except, THAT number is not visible ANYWHERE on my customer screen, neither
as a release NOR as an interim version number?

Best Regards,
Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.3.46

4.3.64 available, we have made some changes to address the vulnerability if
you would like to test this - it can be downloaded from the interim
location.


David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 x 7007 office
978.988.1311 fax
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.3.46

2007-10-18 Thread Andy Schmidt
Dave,

Lots of confusion here:

a) the subject refers to 4.3.46 - which shows up on my customer screen as
the latest RELEASE

b) however, that's less than the interim 4.3.57 that is shown on my
customer screen?

c) the body of your email refers to 4.3.64 - which would make more sense.
Except, THAT number is not visible ANYWHERE on my customer screen, neither
as a release NOR as an interim version number?

Best Regards,
Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 4.3.46

4.3.64 available, we have made some changes to address the vulnerability if
you would like to test this - it can be downloaded from the interim
location.


David Barker
VP Operations Declude
Your Email security is our business
978.499.2933 x 7007 office
978.988.1311 fax
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Partial Vulnerability test failures on legitmate email

2007-10-11 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

Actually, the Partial/Fragmented Vulnerability is one that ideally should
be left in place. I'm not certain that this test can be circumvented
individually - at least it's not on this list:
http://www.declude.com/Version/Manuals/EVA/EVA_4.0.8.asp.

 

Before HTML messages and picture attachments - and consequently support for
messages that are many megabytes in size, there was a frequently used option
(specially for NNTP newsgroups, if I recall correctly), where an email
software would split a message into smaller fragments and then send each
fragment was one email.  The receiving software would look for the fragments
and re-assemble them into a single message.

 

Since it prevents virus detection at the server level, fragmented messages
should no longer be accepted (and, with today's technology and size
allowances, there really is no use for it).  I have seen some devices (such
as a Ricoh Sanner/Fax/Printer combination) still have the setting to create
fragments after xx KB. And even Outlook Express can still generate fragments
(see screenshot).

 

However, I've never had trouble explaining to clients (and senders), why
this option should remain off:

 



 

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy
Armbrecht
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:45 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Partial Vulnerability test failures on legitmate
email

 

Does anyone know which Outlook Vulnerability test to REM out in the
virus.cfg to keep the [Partial Vulnerability] test from failing?


We are on 4.3.59 and this test is catching a number of legitmate emails
recently and I need to turn this test off until the vulerability test fix is
done so I can try it again.

 

Has MS made updates to Outlook to affect this? this has just started on us
about 5 days ago

 

Randy A.

Global Web Solutions Inc


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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Kevin, thanks.

 

To save me and my customers frustration - is it limited to that one
vulnerability - or are other's involved that I should disable proactively
(or reverse to the previous build)?

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Bilbee
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:15 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

I reported this to declude. They are working on it.

 

 

 

Kevin Bilbee

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:53 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

 

Hi,

 

I put in 4.3.62 in this afternoon (was running a different interim from a
few months ago). Since then I had numerous different clients reporting
clients with Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME postamble' Vulnerability.

 

Valid emails from Lotus Notes 6 with attachments were rejected (reproducible
at will), messages from Yahoo Webmail, etc.

 

If a change was made that triggers this test for major mailers, then it's
worthless because no one can keep it on!

 

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 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:23:21 -0700 (PDT)

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 Subject: Fw: Our Virus Firewall has Rejected Your Email!

 To: Michael Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 MIME-Version: 1.0

 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;  

 boundary=0-1745477977-1191536601=:15605

 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave,

 

Well, I dropped in 4.3.62 in the afternoon and throughout the afternoon was
getting reports from people using VARIOUS email systems (not limited to
Yahoo's mail service), that just happened to be the one that I had at my
finger tips.

 

I can also say that it happened to people sending mail from Lotus Notes 6. I
worked with the Tech Guy at the client's client and he tried to send me
simply emails with a zip or PDF attachment and nothing got past 4.3.62.

 

File:   [No attachment]
Result: Found[Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME Postamble' Vulnerability]

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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
I did not have this problem with .57.  So we can rule out .46.

 

Sorry, jumped right from .57 to .62 - so can't say if it was introduced with
.59 already.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:49 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Ok, we are working on the issue, can you replicate it with an earlier
version of Declude like .46 or .59 ?



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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
I have not reverted to .57, I have disabled this vulnerability in the
Virus.cfg for now to see what other issues I might uncover. (There was a
false positive reported last night for a different vulnerability for mail
send by Netscapes mail applet, but I haven't firmed that one up yet).

 

If you like me to, I have an archive of held Postamble MIME files that are
LEGITIMATE (some of them are automatically created emails that our clients
used to get all the time) and zip them up to you? If so, which email do you
want me to use?

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:27 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Ok so if you revert to .57 the issue goes away correct.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:18 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

I did not have this problem with .57.  So we can rule out .46.

 

Sorry, jumped right from .57 to .62 - so can't say if it was introduced with
.59 already.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:49 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Ok, we are working on the issue, can you replicate it with an earlier
version of Declude like .46 or .59 ?


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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
Dave,

 

The Blank Folding Vulnerability is ALSO causing false positives (but not as
many as the Postamble one).

 

I'll send you ANOTHER email with Blank Folding false positives in about 5
minutes.

 

I have to back this release out - something majorly wrong with it.

 

Best Regards,

Andy

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:53 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

 

Hi,

 

I put in 4.3.62 in this afternoon (was running a different interim from a
few months ago). Since then I had numerous different clients reporting
clients with Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME postamble' Vulnerability.

 

Valid emails from Lotus Notes 6 with attachments were rejected (reproducible
at will), messages from Yahoo Webmail, etc.

 

If a change was made that triggers this test for major mailers, then it's
worthless because no one can keep it on!

 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
I reverted to .57 and had someone resent an email with Attachment from Lotus
Notes and this time it went through.

 

So - the answer is yes, the problem goes away with .57.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:27 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Ok so if you revert to .57 the issue goes away correct.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 11:18 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

I did not have this problem with .57.  So we can rule out .46.

 

Sorry, jumped right from .57 to .62 - so can't say if it was introduced with
.59 already.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:49 AM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for
vulnerabilties

 

Ok, we are working on the issue, can you replicate it with an earlier
version of Declude like .46 or .59 ?


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[Declude.Virus] Interim .62 triggered Blank Folding on this one and other emails

2007-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
Other emails from this same Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 user, using the same smtp
relays, were also blocked. 

 File:   [No attachment]
  Result: Found[Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability]


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[Declude.Virus] 4.3.62 countless false positives for vulnerabilties

2007-10-04 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

 

I put in 4.3.62 in this afternoon (was running a different interim from a
few months ago). Since then I had numerous different clients reporting
clients with Outlook 'MIME segment in MIME postamble' Vulnerability.

 

Valid emails from Lotus Notes 6 with attachments were rejected (reproducible
at will), messages from Yahoo Webmail, etc.

 

If a change was made that triggers this test for major mailers, then it's
worthless because no one can keep it on!

 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Clam AV vs. AVG vs. McAfee

2007-03-06 Thread Andy Schmidt
That's my experience too. I update McAfee hourly - which helps with new
outbreaks. It's the last scanner in sequence and always manages to catch
viruses that the internal didn't. (Of course, I don't know if there are
virus that the internal caught that McAfee might have missed.)

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:45 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Clam AV vs. AVG vs. McAfee

 

Wolf,

 

I use McAfee, CLAM, Internal AVG, and at one time (before licensing changes)
F-Prot all at the same time.  If you have extra CPU there is no reason not
to use multiple scanners.  One thing though when I switched to processing AV
last I seen a dramatic drop in viruses due to them being caught as spam.
50-60K a month down to less than 2K.  FWIW - I have McAfee as my last
scanner and every now and than I see it grab a few viruses that the others
miss.


Darrell

 


Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG
Integration, and Log Parsers.

- Original Message - 

From: Wolf Tombe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: declude.virus@declude.com 

Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:16 AM

Subject: [Declude.Virus] Clam AV vs. AVG vs. McAfee

 

The discussion on the current version of Clam AV and Clam being able to
detect some image spam got me thinking.  Prior to Declude version 4.0, I
always used McAfee AV to scan all incoming messages.  When I upgraded to
Declude 4 I decided to try it's built in AV which seems to work fine.  I'm
curious though as to the opinions of others on this list as to the merits of
using Clam or other anti-virus scanners either in place of the Declude built
in AV or in addition to it.

 

Any opinions people would like to share will be appreciated.

 

Thanks!

 

Wolf

 

 


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RE: [Declude.Virus] I'm currently on a business trip down south and will be returning January 5th, 2007. If t

2007-01-04 Thread Andy Schmidt
So - shall we all call that emergency number and ask that he turn off his
vacation notice, or shall we just fake the return address an unsubscribe him
since the Declude staff is not taking action?

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Andy Schmidt

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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 04:48 PM
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will be returning January 5th, 2007. If t

75 over 45 minutes.  Dumb...

Darin.


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I think I received 36 of them.

Andrew.

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 Is it me or did everyone get this autoresponder about 300 times?

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[Declude.Virus] Sender.eml was sent even though forging virus?

2006-12-13 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

My sender.eml has the line:
SKIPIFFORGING

And my virus.CFG has:

AUTOFORGE   ON

FORGINGVIRUS Anonymous Driver
FORGINGVIRUS Antiman
FORGINGVIRUSAvril
FORGINGVIRUSBagle

Yet, declude virus just sent the sender.eml for the following details:
 
  File:  Unknown File
  Result:FoundI-Worm/Bagle
  Message ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Our Domain:Schmidt.AS for Schmidt.AS
  Queue ID:  D324e0153b795.smd

Based on these headers:

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  (SMTPD-9.10) id A24E331D0; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:03:10 -0500
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:03:11 +0100
To: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: price 13-Dec-2006
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary=oibzhbgyvnajpcxfwpdt





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RE: [Declude.Virus] Sender.eml was sent even though forging virus?

2006-12-13 Thread Andy Schmidt
Oh?

I've never had the problem with my external McAfee scanner.

Could this be a problem with Declude's internal AVG scanner?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
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Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 01:11 PM
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Subject: re: [Declude.Virus] Sender.eml was sent even though forging virus?

I've seen similar behavior with viruses found by AVG.


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 Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:42 PM
 To: 'Declude Virus List' declude.virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] Sender.eml was sent even though forging virus?
 
 Hi,
 
 My sender.eml has the line:
 SKIPIFFORGING
 
 And my virus.CFG has:
 
 AUTOFORGE ON
 
 FORGINGVIRUS Anonymous Driver
 FORGINGVIRUS Antiman
 FORGINGVIRUS  Avril
 FORGINGVIRUS  Bagle
 
 Yet, declude virus just sent the sender.eml for the following details:
  
   File:Unknown File
   Result:  FoundI-Worm/Bagle
   Message ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Our Domain:Schmidt.AS for Schmidt.AS
   Queue ID:  D324e0153b795.smd
 
 Based on these headers:
 
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   (SMTPD-9.10) id A24E331D0; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:03:10 -0500
 Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:03:11 +0100
 To: Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Webmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: price 13-Dec-2006
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
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[Declude.Virus] AUTOFORGE

2006-10-27 Thread Andy Schmidt



Hi,

is this still being 
actively maintained?

If so, 
 
W32/Stration.dldr
should be added as 
forging. Based on bounces that I'm seeing (from inbound-only mailboxes on our 
domain)it is forging the sender.
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.2.20 Error in Log

2006-07-13 Thread Andy Schmidt
There is a parameter in the Virus.cfg to disable the internal scanner.  I
don't have it in front of me, but it was in the comments just below the
external virus sample.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 08:34 AM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] 4.2.20 Error in Log


Andy, 

Besides AVG I have 3 scanners: listed in order (F-Prot, Clam AV, McAfee). 

I do think its an AVG issue like you suggested.  I am trying to find a way 
to disable the built in AVG virus scanner to see if this message goes away. 

Darrell 

Andy Schmidt writes: 

 Do you have a second/external scanner defined.
 
 May be the internal scanner (AVG) deletes an attachment and then 
 Declude complains that its gone when it tries to launch the secondary?
 
 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt
 
 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206  
 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Darrell
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 05:46 PM
 To: declude.virus@declude.com
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] 4.2.20 Error in Log 
 
 
 Since upgrading to 4.2.20 I started seeing the following error:
 
 07/12/2006 00:34:41.812 q7bca020f6715.smd 1 [1 of 2 not deleted] 
 files
 were deleted.  You should not use an on-access virus scanner that scans
the 
 \IMail directory or sub-directories.07/12/2006 00:34:41.328  
 
 This only happens when AVG catches a virus.  It did not get logged 
 under 3.x
 
 version.  Nor do I have an On Access Virus Scanner.  Anyone else 
 seeing
 this?  
 
 Darrell
 
 See the log snippet below.
 
 07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 q7bca020f6715.smd Vulnerability flags = 0 
 07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 q7bca020f6715.smd MIME file: 
 [text/html][7bit; Length=733 Checksum=67160] 07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 
 q7bca020f6715.smd MIME file: email-details.zip [base64; 
 Length=108312 Checksum=13182423] 07/12/2006 00:34:41.781 
 q7bca020f6715.smd AVG Reports VIRUS: IRC/BackDoor.SdBot.PMS
 07/12/2006 00:34:41.781 q7bca020f6715.smd File(s) are INFECTED 
 [IRC/BackDoor.SdBot.PMS: 7]
 07/12/2006 00:34:41.812 q7bca020f6715.smd 1 [1 of 2 not deleted] files

 were deleted.  You should not use an on-access virus scanner that scans
the 
 \IMail directory or sub-directories.07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 
 q7bca020f6715.smd Vulnerability flags = 0
 07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 q7bca020f6715.smd MIME file: [text/html][7bit;

 Length=733 Checksum=67160]
 07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 q7bca020f6715.smd MIME file: email-details.zip

 [base64; Length=108312 Checksum=13182423]
 07/12/2006 00:34:41.781 q7bca020f6715.smd AVG Reports VIRUS: 
 IRC/BackDoor.SdBot.PMS
 07/12/2006 00:34:41.781 q7bca020f6715.smd File(s) are INFECTED 
 [IRC/BackDoor.SdBot.PMS: 7]
 07/12/2006 00:34:41.812 q7bca020f6715.smd 1 [1 of 2 not deleted] files

 were deleted.  You should not use an on-access virus scanner that scans
the 
 \IMail directory or sub-directories.  
 
 Darrell
 
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[Declude.Virus] Ambiguous Virus Scanner ID in log

2006-07-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Dave,

My log indicates:

07/12/2006 17:34:20.625 q6ad4014a0137.smd Vulnerability flags = 0
07/12/2006 17:34:21.593 q6ad4014a0137.smd Virus scanner 1 reports exit
code of 0 

Which one is considered Virus scanner 1 - the INTERNAL (AVG) scanner that
comes with Declude 4.2.20 - or my EXTERNAL McAfee Scanner?

Best Regards
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[Declude.Virus] RE: Trying to install Declude 4.2.20

2006-07-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
 
Hi Dave,

Okay, then Declude's error message is misleading. Here is what I had done:

- I had defined McAfee as scanner 2, assuming that the internal was going
to be scanner 1.

- Based on your explanation, the internal scanner is scanner 0. So, in
effect, I had defined a scanner 2 without having any scanner 1 defined.

- The result of skipping a scanner number is this ambiguous error message:

Your virus scanner DOES NOT EXIST (at
C:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D65900~1.VIR\); 
NOT SCANNING ATTACHMENTS! [2] 
Error String: [The system cannot find the file specified.]

I fixed the problem by defining McAfee as Scanner 1 (by removing any
number behind the 3 parameters).


So - it seems as if this is a usability issue. Declude should not try to
start Scanner 1 if none has been defined - even if a higher scanner number
IS defined.  At least, it should indicate a meaningful configuration error,
such as Scanner nnn not defined - this and all subsequent scanneres are
skipped.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Barker
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 05:31 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 4.2.20

The built in scanner works as scanner 0 so that your scanner 1 and 2 would
be as it has always been.

If you are just running MacAfee as you show try using:

SCANFILEC:\Progra~1\Common~1\Networ~1\Engine\SCAN.EXE
VIRUSCODE   13
REPORT  Found
 
Im not sure what the  /LOAD D:\IMAIL\Declude\SCAN.CFG is used for ?

David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:21 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 4.2.20

 
Hi Dave,

Okay - another try...

A) Is the built-in scanner considered the scanner #1 and any additional
scanner have to be set up as the #2 scanner, etc.  Or are the external
scanners counting from 1?

B) I defined McAfee as the external scanner

SCANFILE2   C:\Progra~1\Common~1\Networ~1\Engine\SCAN.EXE /LOAD
D:\IMAIL\Declude\SCAN.CFG
VIRUSCODE2  13
REPORT2 Found

I copied and pasted the executable to the command line window confirm that
it is being found:

D:\IMailC:\Progra~1\Common~1\Networ~1\Engine\SCAN.EXE
McAfee VirusScan for Win32 v4.40.0
Copyright (c) 1992-2004 Networks Associates Technology Inc. All rights
reserved.
(408) 988-3832  EVALUATION COPY - Sep 23 2004

Scan engine v4.4.00 for Win32.
Virus data file v4804 created Jul 11 2006 Scanning for 200919 viruses,
trojans and variants.

However, Declude reports:

07/12/2006 17:11:51.000 q6590017100aa.smd Vulnerability flags = 0
07/12/2006 17:11:51.484 q6590017100aa.smd Your virus scanner DOES NOT
EXIST (at  C:\IMail\spool\proc\work\D65900~1.VIR\); NOT SCANNING
ATTACHMENTS! [2] Error String: [The system cannot find the file specified.]
07/12/2006 17:11:51.500 q6590017100aa.smd Scanned: Error starting
scanner


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

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RE: [Declude.Virus] 4.2.20 Error in Log

2006-07-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
Do you have a second/external scanner defined.

May be the internal scanner (AVG) deletes an attachment and then Declude
complains that its gone when it tries to launch the secondary?

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 05:46 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.Virus] 4.2.20 Error in Log


Since upgrading to 4.2.20 I started seeing the following error: 

07/12/2006 00:34:41.812 q7bca020f6715.smd 1 [1 of 2 not deleted] files 
were deleted.  You should not use an on-access virus scanner that scans the 
\IMail directory or sub-directories.07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 

This only happens when AVG catches a virus.  It did not get logged under 3.x

version.  Nor do I have an On Access Virus Scanner.  Anyone else seeing 
this? 

Darrell 

See the log snippet below. 

07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 q7bca020f6715.smd Vulnerability flags = 0
07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 q7bca020f6715.smd MIME file: [text/html][7bit; 
Length=733 Checksum=67160]
07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 q7bca020f6715.smd MIME file: email-details.zip 
[base64; Length=108312 Checksum=13182423]
07/12/2006 00:34:41.781 q7bca020f6715.smd AVG Reports VIRUS: 
IRC/BackDoor.SdBot.PMS
07/12/2006 00:34:41.781 q7bca020f6715.smd File(s) are INFECTED 
[IRC/BackDoor.SdBot.PMS: 7]
07/12/2006 00:34:41.812 q7bca020f6715.smd 1 [1 of 2 not deleted] files 
were deleted.  You should not use an on-access virus scanner that scans the 
\IMail directory or sub-directories.07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 
q7bca020f6715.smd Vulnerability flags = 0
07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 q7bca020f6715.smd MIME file: [text/html][7bit; 
Length=733 Checksum=67160]
07/12/2006 00:34:41.328 q7bca020f6715.smd MIME file: email-details.zip 
[base64; Length=108312 Checksum=13182423]
07/12/2006 00:34:41.781 q7bca020f6715.smd AVG Reports VIRUS: 
IRC/BackDoor.SdBot.PMS
07/12/2006 00:34:41.781 q7bca020f6715.smd File(s) are INFECTED 
[IRC/BackDoor.SdBot.PMS: 7]
07/12/2006 00:34:41.812 q7bca020f6715.smd 1 [1 of 2 not deleted] files 
were deleted.  You should not use an on-access virus scanner that scans the 
\IMail directory or sub-directories. 

Darrell 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Andy Schmidt
Example attached (sorry, German/English in this case).

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 02:12 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

You could always put the English and Spanish messages into the same
recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up here in Canada except
it is English and French.

Goran Jovanovic
Omega Network Solutions

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
 
 Can the following be done in Declude EVA?
 
 I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
spanish
 speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive a messsage 
 telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be able to have a 
 different message sent to each of my domains depending on the language
of
 the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe this can be
done
 in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Gary Steiner
 
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: %MAILFROM%
Subject: Mail Delivery Alert

ENGLISH - See Below!
DEUTSCH - Siehe unten!

ENGLISH:


Argos Networks' Firewall has tripped an alert while inspecting a message sent 
by %MAILFROM% to:
 
  %ALLRECIPS%.

Your message originated at a mail server, which does not have a proper reverse 
lookup DNS entry. Anonymous mail servers are a common source of unsolicited 
email (SPAM), viruses and other cyber-attacks.  In case your message was 
legitimate, we are including technical information that will assist your ISP 
with addressing their problem.

  Sender's Domain:  %REMOTEHOST%
  More Info:http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=%REMOTEIP%
http://www.samspade.org/t/dns?a=%REMOTEIP%

  Message ID:   %MSGID%
  Queue ID: %QUEUENAME% on %RECIPHOST%

This time, your message was still forwarded to the recipient.  However, it is 
important that you contact your Internet provider or mail administrator and ask 
them to correct the mail server setup.

We apologize for your inconvenience, but resources and productivity lost to 
unsolicited email messages, viruses and other cyber-attacks require us to check 
for messages from suspect sources.

For security reasons, you cannot respond to this email directly.  If you need 
to contact us, please compose a new message addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sincerely,
Argos Networks
http://www.Argos.net/


DEUTSCH:


Die Firewall von Argos Networks hat eine Warnung ausgeloest. Das betroffene 
Email kam von %MAILFROM% und war addressiert an:
 
  %ALLRECIPS%.

Ihr Email kam von einem Mail Server, der keinen gueltigen Reverse Lookup DNS 
Eintrag hat. Solche anonymem Mail Server sind haeufig der Ursprung von 
unerwuneschten Massen-Emails (SPAM), Viren und anderen Cyber-Attacken. Fuer 
den Fall, dass Ihre Meldung legitim war, koennen Sie die folgenden technischen 
Informationen and Ihren Internet-Anbieter mit der Bitte um Korrektur 
weitergeben.

  Sendende Domaine:  %REMOTEHOST%
  Details:   http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=%REMOTEIP%
 http://www.samspade.org/t/dns?a=%REMOTEIP%

  Message ID:%MSGID%
  Queue ID:  %QUEUENAME% auf %RECIPHOST%

Ihr Email wurde dieses mal noch an den Empfaenger weitergeleitet. Es ist jedoch 
wichtig, dass Sie Ihren Internetanbieter oder Email Administrator kontaktieren, 
damit das Problem in Ihrem Mail Server abgestellt wird.

Wir bedauern diese Unannehmlichkeit, aber der Verlust von Ressourcen und 
Produktivitaet durch unerwuenschte Massen-Emails, Viren und andere 
Cyber-Attacken machen es notwendig, dass wir alle Emails auf legitime Herkunft 
pruefen.

Aus Sicherheitsgruenden koennen Sie nicht direkt auf diese Benachrichtigung 
antworten. Um uns zu erreichen, erstellen Sie bitte ein neues Email an [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

Mit fruendlchem Gruss
Argos Networks
http://www.Argos.net/


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%FULLMSG%


RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

2006-02-23 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

I kill most of the incoming mail (with help of Sniffer).

I've never seen a complaint by an innocent users, but occasionally educate a
corporate end user or manager about the incompetence of his/her I/S
department.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 02:43 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages

Andrew,

Do you do anything to decrease the change of the alert message going out to
real spammers or forged addresses? 

This would get sent out to e-mail that failed REVDNS and were not deleted as
SPAM?

Goran Jovanovic
Omega Network Solutions

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:35 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
 
 Example attached (sorry, German/English in this case).
 
 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt
 
 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 02:12 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
 
 You could always put the English and Spanish messages into the same 
 recip.eml file. I see a lot of that type of thing up here in Canada
except
 it is English and French.
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 Omega Network Solutions
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Steiner
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:04 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.Virus] language specific messages
 
  Can the following be done in Declude EVA?
 
  I have customers who are english speakers, and customers who are
 spanish
  speakers.  When a customer is sent a virus, they receive a messsage 
  telling them about the virus (recip.eml).  I want to be able to have
a
  different message sent to each of my domains depending on the
language
 of
  the customer (recip-en.eml and recip-es.eml).  I believe this can be
 done
  in Junkmail, but can it be done in EVA?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Gary Steiner
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-12 Thread Andy Schmidt
Clear enough for me.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Simpson
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 03:26 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude


All existing customers who choose to move to Version 4 will continue to pay
Service Agreements. If they opt not to pay for the Service Agreement the
software will continue to operate.

Barry

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 3:01 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

I noticed looking at my account the my version 4 license states Declude
Imail Perpetual License

Since v4 is the Subscription modle. If we are customers running on the
Maintenance modle and we decide to not renew maintenance and have upgraded
to version 4 will version 4 ever stop functioning for us?


Kevin Bilbee

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Simpson
 Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:22 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
 
 
 Darin,
 
 You are asking a question that I don't have an answer to at
 this moment. When the time arrives we will make a business 
 decision that will be in the best interests of both our 
 customers and ourselves. This is not a decision that will be 
 made lightly or in the near future.
 
 We will not just announce one week that the next week we will
 be discontinuing support for V3. We will ensure that all 
 customers have an upgrade path of one form or another.
 
 No customer needs to be concerned at this time that we are
 going to abandon them, that is not the way we do business.
 
 Barry
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
 Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:04 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
 
 So what will happen to customers on SAs at that time?  See
 why we're asking the questions?
 
 Darin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Barry Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:58 AM
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
 
 
 Don,
 
 You are correct, it would be better to have only one product
 and that is why we are making the offer to customers to move 
 to the highest level of the software at special pricing.
 
 We also recognize that some customers don't want to do that
 so for the foreseeable future we are maintaining the two code bases.
 
 We are not going to force customers to move. At some point in
 the future V3 will go onto maintenance but that date has not 
 yet been decided.
 
 Barry
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown
 Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:47 AM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude
 
 Friday, February 10, 2006, 3:20:03 PM, Kevin Bilbee
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 KB [Snip]
 KB
 KB On the  buying issue what do you get, the two products
 will be kept
 KB in
 parity feature  wise.
 KB
 KB Kevin  Bilbee
 KB
 KB [Snip]
 
 If that is truly the case, then it makes sense to have only
 one version, 4.0.  Then, the only difference will be that 
 some customers are on an annual maint agreement and others 
 pay an annual subscription.
 
 
 
 Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.inetconcepts.net
 (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Andy Schmidt



Has anyone figured out yet WHAT exactly Declude 4.0 
IS?

I'm looking around on the web site (figured, it's been days 
since I receive the notice that it's available), but I still haven't seen 
anything on the web site that tells me what my extra money would be buying - or, 
what it is I'd be missing out on if I don't buy?
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 01:47 
PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] 
Changes @ Declude


In the 
last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every 
customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To summarize 
the answers to those questions:

* No existing 
customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
* Our current 
customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
* No customer is 
required to move to 4.0

Over and above 
that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have 
provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also 
committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.

I have responded 
to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was sent out and 
if any one has any further questions they can contact me either by email or 
telephone (978) 499-2933.

Barry


RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ Declude

2006-02-10 Thread Andy Schmidt



Hi Kevin,

I understand what you're saying- you believe Declude 
4.0 is really just a"Declude 3.x Suite" vs. the Declude 3.x "legacy 
products".New customers can only purchase the Suite, while old customers 
will continue to upgrade their individual products. The code base is the 
same. 

In that case, the confusion stems from using a "version 
numbering" scheme, instead of using a proper "packaging" 
scheme.

This would be comparable to what IpSwitch did eventually. 
New customers have to buy the bloated Imail suite, while existing customers can 
continue buy service agreements for the Imail mail server 
product.

Let's see if Declude can confirm your 
understanding.

Then we'll just have to find out what the "subscription" 
is. Is it a "service agreement subscription" (where you can continue to use the 
existing product version, even if the subscription is not renewed), or if it is 
a "license subscription" (whereyour license terminates if you fail to 
renew at some point).
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin 
BilbeeSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 04:20 PMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Changes @ 
Declude

Declude 4.x is all the products in one with a common license key and are 
not seperatable.

On the 
buying issue what do you get, the two products will be kept in parity feature 
wise.


Kevin 
Bilbee

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of Andy SchmidtSent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:02 
  AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: 
  [Declude.Virus] Changes @ DecludeImportance: 
  High
  Has anyone figured out yet WHAT exactly Declude 4.0 
  IS?
  
  I'm looking around on the web site (figured, it's been 
  days since I receive the notice that it's available), but I still haven't seen 
  anything on the web site that tells me what my extra money would be buying - 
  or, what it is I'd be missing out on if I don't buy?
  Best 
  RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
  (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 01:47 
  PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] 
  Changes @ Declude
  
  
  In the 
  last 10 days we have received a number of inquiries to the email sent to every 
  customer explaining the changes that are happening here at Declude. To 
  summarize the answers to those questions:
  
  * No existing 
  customer is required to move to the new annual pricing.
  * Our current 
  customers can continue to pay the annual Service Agreements.
  * No customer 
  is required to move to 4.0
  
  Over and above 
  that we are continuing to enhance and support both 3.0 and 4.0 and we have 
  provided great deals for customers wishing to move to the 4.0 version and also 
  committed to keeping them on Service Agreements.
  
  I have 
  responded to each and every customer who has contacted me since the email was 
  sent out and if any one has any further questions they can contact me either 
  by email or telephone (978) 499-2933.
  
  Barry


[Declude.Virus] Hardware Issue -- NOT!

2005-12-26 Thread Andy Schmidt



Hi David:

Thanks for acknowledging the hardware 
problem.
However, I don't think anyone here really would be too 
upset about hardware problems on your end - if it didn't uncover what appears to 
be a HUGE software problem? It's the DecludeSOFTWARE that 
deactivates/downgrades itself, if we are to trust the reports of those who 
suffered the outcome!?
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David 
Franco-RochaSent: Monday, December 26, 2005 12:29 PMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comCc: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] Hardware 
Issue

Due to the long holiday weekend, we have been away 
from the office for a few days. Unfortunately it has come to our attention that 
there could be a problem with key validation on the server there. After some 
testing, we have determined that there is in fact a hardware issue that we 
expect to have resolved today.

We appreciate that you have taken the time to bring 
this matter to our attention and appreciate your patience while we rectify the 
situation. We will once again post to this list when the issue has been 
corrected.

Declude Technical / Engineering



[Declude.Virus] FW: AVERT Medium Threat Advisory: W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-10-05 Thread Andy Schmidt
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: AVERT Medium Threat Advisory: W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Advisory
This is a Medium Threat Advisory for W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Justification
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] has been deemed Medium due to prevalence.

Read About It
Information about W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] is located on VIL at:
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_136390.htm

Detection
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] was first discovered on October 5, 2005 and detection 
will be
added to the 4598 dat files (Release Date: October 5, 2005).  The  EXTRA.DAT
IS AVAILABLE.

If you suspect you have W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED], please submit a sample to
http://www.webimmune.net.

Risk Assessment Definition
For further information on the Risk Assessment and AVERT Recommended Actions
please see: 
http://www.mcafeesecurity.com/us/security/resources/risk_assessment.htm

Best Regards, 

McAfee AVERT - Anti Virus and Vulnerability Research, Analysis, and
Solutions visit us at www.avertlabs.com

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

2005-09-23 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Nick:

I'm only repeating what I'm told - I don't have factual information on my
own.

There have been several reports on this list that describes the following
problem with dual-processor systems:

Declude is supposed to check the /proc folder and ONLY go to sleep (for 30
seconds), if the folder contains no messages. On systems that have that
problem, Declude goes to sleep even though there ARE messages to process.

The result is, that messages are queuing up and never get processed.

There is a parameter to set the sleep time low (e.g. 1 second), this way,
the effect of the problem is less - but now Declude does't go to sleep when
it actually could - with a possible impact on resource consumption.


(Of course, the question is why this appears to be related to dual-processor
systems.  May be one process still has an access lock against the first file
in the proc folder and another process doesn't handle that error condition
right - who knows.)




Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Hayer
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 08:15 AM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted


Hi Andy,

Andy Schmidt wrote:

Thanks Bill.  I had gotten the impression as if everyone with 
dual-processor system was reporting this and that people were still 
seeing it with the latest version.
  

If you will would you let me know more about this issue. I haven't been 
following exactly so I do not know what I should be looking for  :) I have
3.0.4.4  running on my quad processor [with hyper threading] box 
without ant problems - at least as far as I can tell. If I'm I missing 
something I will revert back to 2.0.6.16 in a heartbeat!

-Nick

  

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

2005-09-22 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi David,

I can't help but ask...

You are proposing options that will help with the dual processor issue.
But, are you REPRODUCING the issue and fixing it? I understand that the
problem is that the service goes to sleep for 30 seconds, even though there
are messages in the PROC folder. Clearly that should not happen.  Changing
the timings will only create a trade-off by consuming extra
machine-resources.

Even on a dual-processor system should the service be able to determine
reliably if a folder has content or not?  

I'm just worried that the beta is declared successful when an entire class
of machines is only working with a bandage.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

Yes, these are to help adjust for timing with Dual-proc

Different systems / configuration respond differently to these settings.  

In particular they to fine tune through-put with CPU utilization.

1. SLOW server that is heavily loaded 

You may want to try to increase WAITBETWEENTHREADS and lower THREADS.

2. FAST server
Use the THREADS and WAITFORTHREADS to adjust the CPU utilization.

When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but after that
the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. 

The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests,
other processes, etc.  If the system is spiking but coming down quickly
that's good.

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:27 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

David,
Are these to be used to correct issues with Dual-proc, or is that
still an ongoing issue still be looking at?  Thanks for the time.

Keith

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:41 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted


2 new Directives

WAITFORTHREADS  1500
Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds
this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time
specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads.  

WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1
Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond
The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another
thread.

David B
www.declude.com

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

2005-09-22 Thread Andy Schmidt
Thanks Bill.  I had gotten the impression as if everyone with dual-processor
system was reporting this and that people were still seeing it with the
latest version.

I have so far not installed the beta, because of those issues - I just don't
have a single-processor system to use and was waiting for a beta that
addressed this problem.  (My feeling was, nothing is gained by briefly
installing a system if it's already known not to function on my
environment).

If you're saying that the dual-processor problem only appears for selected
systems and rather the exception than the rule, then I might give it try to
see if I get lucky.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Billman
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 08:44 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted


Hi Andy,

The directives are for tuning both single and multiprocessor systems.  They
are not meant as a tradeoff.  Some multiprocessor systems do not exhibit the
reported sleep for 30 seconds behavior.  We have not been able to reproduce
it ourselves.  This doesn't mean that we do not take it seriously nor does
it mean that we have given up.  I picked up another dual processor machine
tonight and tomorrow we will attempt to reproduce the reported behavior on
it.  It's hard to fix something that we can't reproduce but we will keep
trying.  It's not even clear to me that this problem still exists in the
latest version.  But until the issue is resolved I can assure you we will
not give up.  If you are having this or any other problems please send us
your configuration files along with system specs and log files, debug level
is best.

The beta is a success thanks to our customers and we do appreciate your
efforts.  We set out to fix the 8.2 issues.  We have accomplished that and
fixed some other stuff along the way.  The product will not ship bug free.
But I do assure you that we will prioritize and address every issue that we
know of.

Once we have this baseline release, along with fixing bugs we plan on
implement some cool new stuff that you guys have asked for. 

It's precisely because this is a wonderfully active and sharing community
that Declude is the premier email vulnerability software solution.  Let's
keep the dialog, observations, and ideas flowing and I promise that Declude
will become even better.

All the best,
Bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:56 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

Hi David,

I can't help but ask...

You are proposing options that will help with the dual processor issue.
But, are you REPRODUCING the issue and fixing it? I understand that the
problem is that the service goes to sleep for 30 seconds, even though there
are messages in the PROC folder. Clearly that should not happen.  Changing
the timings will only create a trade-off by consuming extra
machine-resources.

Even on a dual-processor system should the service be able to determine
reliably if a folder has content or not?  

I'm just worried that the beta is declared successful when an entire class
of machines is only working with a bandage.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:28 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

Yes, these are to help adjust for timing with Dual-proc

Different systems / configuration respond differently to these settings.  

In particular they to fine tune through-put with CPU utilization.

1. SLOW server that is heavily loaded 

You may want to try to increase WAITBETWEENTHREADS and lower THREADS.

2. FAST server
Use the THREADS and WAITFORTHREADS to adjust the CPU utilization.

When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but after that
the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. 

The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests,
other processes, etc.  If the system is spiking but coming down quickly
that's good.

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:27 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted

David,
Are these to be used to correct issues with Dual-proc, or is that
still an ongoing issue still be looking at?  Thanks for the time.

Keith

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:41 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail

RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown

2005-09-09 Thread Andy Schmidt
Can you wait 7 minutes?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 02:09 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Sudden Internet Slowdown

Since when is Maine no longer in the Atlantic time zone? How come I did not
get the notice?

I never get the notices!

Has any one informed the president?

John T
eServices For You

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Limit Size of message to be scanned?

2005-07-08 Thread Andy Schmidt



How do you prevent DoS attacks by someone sending a 405 MB 
attachment 100 times to a list of 10 cc's over a weekend, when it's likely not 
to be read?
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus 
GuflerSent: Friday, July 08, 2005 03:19 AMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Limit Size of 
message to be scanned?

have had one with 405 MB last week. 
The entire Declude system has scanned and checked it (it 
was hold due to several suspicious files in the archive). 
Only the _vbscript_ that should move the hold message file 
has created some problems +800 MB of memory usage and some read-errors in the 
declude logfile. Some further messages was not scanned.

Markus


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff 
  (Lists)Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:05 AMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Limit Size of 
  message to be scanned?
  
  
  50 MB e-mail 
  attachments?
  
  Youch!
  
  
  John 
  T
  eServices For 
  You
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Grant 
  GriffithSent: 
  Thursday, July 07, 
  2005 8:36 
  PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] Limit Size of 
  message to be scanned?
  
  Hello All,
  
  Is there a way to limit the size 
  of the message that Declude/F-Prot can scan? We have some customers that 
  are sending 50+ meg files and it is causing our servers to have major 
  issues. Is there a setting to say skip anything over a certain 
  size? Either in F-Prot or Declude?
  
  We fixed it currently by setting 
  it to OFF for certain domains, but really want to ban extensions and 
  vulnerabilities for those domains.
  
  
  Thanks,
  Grant Griffith
  EI8HTLEGS, A Division of 
  ETC
  (812)932-1000
  


RE: [Declude.Virus] .EML file syntax

2005-06-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Uh - thanks - got it. Now that I read how you phrased 
the question I see how the original poster meant it.
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan 
HorneSent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 09:54 AMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] .EML file 
syntax

No one seems to actually be reading the OP. He 
doesn't want to do anything with any BCC's in incoming mail. All he wants 
to be able to do is BCC the virus notifications to himself. Declude has a 
set of .eml files that it sends out when a virus is found (postmaster, 
otherpostmaster, etc). In that file, you specify who gets the email by 
putting in a TO: line at the top. He was simply asking if that file could 
use a BCC: line as well.

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy 
  SchmidtSent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:22 AMTo: 
  Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] .EML file 
  syntax
  
  Hi 
  Goran:
  
  The 
  "cc:" information is part of the (spoofable) SMTP header - the "bcc:" is not 
  ANYWHERE. 
  
  The 
  only entitythat knows about the "bcc"s is the sending mail sever, it 
  will simply distribute the message to anyone in the bcc and cc header. To each 
  BCC or CC recipient's server it will look like a message that 
  wasaddressed from one third party to another third party - they will not 
  see the BCC information.
  
  While the "cc:" (but not bcc) information can be found in the SMTP 
  header in the receiving server (and thus Declude) there is no way to say 
  whether that header is "true" or spoofed (although there is little motivation 
  to spoof that header, that I can think of).
  
  There simply is no way on earth for anythingbeyond the sending 
  mail server to do anything with BCCs since the information simply is omitted 
  and thus not available. Therefore, there is no reason to believe that it will 
  (or could) ever be added to a future DEclude version.
  
  Best 
  RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
  (Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 
  

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 
09:27 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: 
[Declude.Virus] .EML file syntax

Hi,

I know that in an 
.EML file you can have a TO: %ALLRECIPS% (or whoever you want) but can 
you also put in a CC or better yet a BCC? I have not found anything in the 
2.0.6 manual.


Thanx



 
Goran 
Jovanovic
 
The LAN 
Shoppe


[Declude.Virus] MS05-16 Exploit

2005-05-31 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

Enclosed a notice for the MS05-16 Exploit.

For the record:
I'm actually in favor of using STRICT interpretation of vulnerabilities - no
matter how seldom one might actually occur.  Whether a violation of
standards is due to an actual virus - or just a poor mass-mailer
application, I gladly use the reason of vulnerability of a potential virus
to reject these messages early.

As far as some features suggested here:

- I do agree that it might be helpful for some people not to scan for
viruses, if a vulnerability is found (to conserve CPU).

- I do agree that there is little reason (other than statistics) to run the
second scanner after the first scanner already found a virus. 

- I do agree that it is desirable for some people, if there was an option
that would delete vulnerabilities rather than isolate them in the Virus
folder.

- I do NOT agree that Declude should NOT detect certain vulerabilities, just
because they only occur very rarely.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 


 -Original Message-
 From: Nick FitzGerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 9:31 AM
 To: Bugtraq@securityfocus.com
 Subject: Spam exploiting MS05-016
 

Yesterday at least two of my spam-traps received the following message 
(I've elided the MIME boundary values just in case...):

   Subject: We make a business offer to you
   MIME-Version: 1.0
   Content-type: multipart/mixed;
   boundary=[...]

   [...]
   Content-Type: text/plain;
   charset=Windows-1252
   Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

   Hello!  It is not spam, so don't delete this message.
   We have a business offer to you.
   Read our offer.
   You can increase the business in 1,5 times.
   We hope you do not miss this information.


   Best regards, Keith

   [...]
   Content-type: application/octet-stream;
   name=agreement.zip
   Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
   Content-Disposition: attachment;
   filename=agreement.zip

   encoded ZIP file data

There are a few trivial differences between the messages to the 
different addresses I checked, so don't anyone try to turn the above 
into a totally literal filtering rule...

Anyway, the agreement.zip attachment held only one file, apparently 
called agreement.txt, but on closer inspection it turned out the file 
was called agreement.txt  where the apparent trailing space was 
actually a 0xFF character.  This pseudo-TXT file was, in fact, an 
OLE2 format file (originally a Word document file) with the OLE2 Root 
Entry CLSID set to that of the Microsoft HTML Application Host (MSHTA). 
This was all done as per the description in the iDEFENSE advisory 
announcing this vulnerability:

   http://www.idefense.com/application/poi/display?id=231type=vulns

This pseudo-TXT file is an example of what is produced by the PoC 
generator posted to Bugtraq.  Oddly, that message is not archived in 
SecurityFocus' own mailing list archives, but its PoC code is listed 
with the vulnerability's BID entry:

   http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/13132/info/

That PoC may be identified from the comment at the top of its code:

   MS05-016 POC
   Made By ZwelL
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   2005.4.13

Anyway, the agreement.txt  file contained a script to write a text 
file with commands and responses for use with the Windows ftp client 
via its -s option and further commands to run ftp with those scripted 

commands and then to run the executable that ftp script would cause to 
be downloaded from a Russian web site.  At the time of writing, that 
site is still up and the executable that is downloaded (a backdoor) is 
the same one that was there when the spam was first seen.

If you haven't installed the MS05-016 Windows Shell patch yet:

   http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms05-016.mspx

or at least taken reasonable precautions to defang possible 
exploitation of this vulnerability (particularly through MSHTA), it 
would be  advisable to do so now.  When initially discovered, only two 
of more than 20 tested virus scanning engines detected the exploit in 
agreement.txt .  Since alerting the antivirus developer community of 
the field discovery of this exploit, a couple more big name scanners 
have added a degree of detection for this exploit, and I expect that 
number to grow as the new week dawns and new updates are pushed to 
customers.


-- 
Nick FitzGerald
Computer Virus Consulting Ltd.
Ph/FAX: +64 3 3267092


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RE: [Declude.Virus] .EML file syntax

2005-05-31 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Hi 
Goran:

The 
"cc:" information is part of the (spoofable) SMTP header - the "bcc:" is not 
ANYWHERE. 

The 
only entitythat knows about the "bcc"s is the sending mail sever, it will 
simply distribute the message to anyone in the bcc and cc header. To each BCC or 
CC recipient's server it will look like a message that wasaddressed from 
one third party to another third party - they will not see the BCC 
information.

While 
the "cc:" (but not bcc) information can be found in the SMTP header in the 
receiving server (and thus Declude) there is no way to say whether that header 
is "true" or spoofed (although there is little motivation to spoof that header, 
that I can think of).

There 
simply is no way on earth for anythingbeyond the sending mail server to do 
anything with BCCs since the information simply is omitted and thus not 
available. Therefore, there is no reason to believe that it will (or could) ever 
be added to a future DEclude version.

Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Goran JovanovicSent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 09:27 
  PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: [Declude.Virus] 
  .EML file syntax
  
  Hi,
  
  I know that in an 
  .EML file you can have a TO: %ALLRECIPS% (or whoever you want) but can 
  you also put in a CC or better yet a BCC? I have not found anything in the 
  2.0.6 manual.
  
  
  Thanx
  
  
  
   
  Goran 
  Jovanovic
   
  The LAN 
  Shoppe


RE: [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS

2005-05-30 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Yep, that same happened with their hardware raid-1 on an ML 
530 (a pretty up-scale server). Had one bad drive (apparently) and the 
controller managed to wipe out the complete string. The other controller 
channel was unaffected.

I'm pretty certain, I've see this happen twice (the second 
time I got lucky.)
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, 
AndrewSent: Monday, May 30, 2005 12:39 PMTo: 
Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.Virus] 
EXITSCANONVIRUS

Ouch.

We've 
periodically had problems with Compaq (now HP) Proliant servers that have been 
mostly about the pre-failure being too sensitive; it's now part of our best 
practice to keep up with driver and ROM updates. This used to be 
difficult, but now HP has a ROM update bootable ISO image we download, it 
detects and updates the ROMs on the motherboard, the array cards, and the 
microcode on the hard drives. It's called the Firmware Maintenance 
CD.

Andrew 
8)

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 
  9:07 AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: RE: 
  [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
  
  Windows. Power went 
  out, for some reason the UPS went into shutdown mode, it appears some thing on 
  the server hung preventing it from shutting down before the UPS shutdown timer 
  expired, the rest is history. Turns out the Ghost image is inconsistent, so I 
  am rebuilding the OS from the ground, will try to do a restore from a backup I 
  made of the extracted OS partition in Ghost, not sure how that is going to go, 
  but if not then will have to recreate in IIS 47 web sites. Data for the sites 
  is fine, as that was on a pair of separate SCSI drives.
  
  So much for getting 
  caught up on other work.
  
  
  John 
  T
  eServices For 
  You
  
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Darin 
  CoxSent: Monday, May 
  30, 2005 
  6:43 
  AMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.Virus] 
  EXITSCANONVIRUS
  
  
  Oh man...I feel 
  your pain! Happened tous mid-April. Fortunately it was just 
  after midnight on a Friday, 
  so we had everything back up before morning and no one noticed the 
  interruption in service.
  
  
  
  Was it Windows 
  mirroring or hardware level?
  
  Darin.
  
  
  
  
  
  - Original 
  Message - 
  
  From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) 
  
  
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com 
  
  
  Sent: 
  Monday, May 30, 
  2005 
  3:30 
  AM
  
  Subject: RE: 
  [Declude.Virus] EXITSCANONVIRUS
  
  
  Off the topic, but 
  it interrupted my work on my mail server.
  
  Any one ever loose 
  both mirrored OS drives at the same time?
  
  FUN FUN 
  FUN
  
  NOT!
  
  At least Ghost is 
  able to read the master.
  
  
  John 
  T
  eServices For 
  You
  
  ==


[Declude.Virus] AVERT Medium Threat Advisory for Home Users Only: W32/Sober.p@MM

2005-05-02 Thread Andy Schmidt
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 04:36 PM
Subject: AVERT Medium Threat Advisory for Home Users Only: W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Advisory
This is a Medium Threat Advisory for W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] for Home Users Only.

Justification
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] has been deemed Medium due to prevalence. 

Read About It
Information about W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] is located on VIL at:
http://vil.mcafeesecurity.com/vil/content/v_133409.htm

Detection
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] was first discovered on 05/02/2005 and has been 
proactively
detected since at least DAT version 4443.  Specific detection and improved
repair will be added to the 4482 dat files (Release Date: 05/02/2005).
EXTRA.DATs are not necessary to be protected from this threat. 

If you suspect you have W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED], please submit a sample to
http://www.webimmune.net.

Risk Assessment Definition
For further information on the Risk Assessment and AVERT Recommended Actions
please see: 
http://www.mcafeesecurity.com/us/security/resources/risk_assessment.htm


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[Declude.Virus] Attachment=[Unknown: Err] ?

2005-04-15 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi,

Any particular subject/attachment name that we can recognize it by?

Also, for half a day I've seen lots of no subject and the attachmen of
Unknown Err.  Seems as if Declude is choking on something here:

04/15/2005 16:43:42 Q275DA0790152A6BF Warning: file#=123456 (123456.EXE ...
)
04/15/2005 16:43:42 Q275DA0790152A6BF Scanner 1: Virus= the W32/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]
Attachment=[Unknown: Err] [17] I
04/15/2005 16:43:42 Q275DA0790152A6BF File(s) are INFECTED [ the
W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 13]
04/15/2005 16:43:42 Q275DA0790152A6BF Deleting file with virus
04/15/2005 16:43:42 Q275DA0790152A6BF Deleting E-mail with virus!
04/15/2005 16:43:42 Q275DA0790152A6BF Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME: 2
19430]
04/15/2005 16:43:42 Q275DA0790152A6BF From: [Forged] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[incoming from 207.30.155.52]
04/15/2005 16:43:42 Q275DA0790152A6BF Subject:  


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 05:33 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Another new virus


I am getting lots of banned attachment notices and lots of bounces in the
last 90 minutes.

THANKFULLY, I am blocking zip files which contain executables otherwise
these would have all be delivered to users.

Any one have an idea of what this one is, it is kind of acting like Bagle.

John T
eServices For You


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Covad has a problem with our RBL

2005-03-31 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi:

 I am sure they will end up doing what ATT does and just blackhole
queries to certain RBL's. 

And rightfully so - ISP are offering domain name resolution service to
their customers.  However, RBLs don't really qualify as domain name
resolution, even though they use the public DNS to store and propagate the
information.

As you say - it's absolutely necessary (and proper) to run your own DNS to
avoid trouble with upstream providers.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 05:19 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Covad has a problem with our RBL


Yes, its very possible. 

10 RBLS x 1200 emails in an hour is easily 12K hits. 

The 10 RBLS is also conservative.  I am sure they will end up doing what 
ATT does and just blackhole queries to certain RBL's.  I would look at 
setting up a local DNS server. 

Darrell 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Spam .com files being blocked.

2005-03-16 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message



Uh, I 
reproduced that and will report it.

Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, 
Inc.600 East Crescent Avenue, 
Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of Scott FisherSent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 01:16 
  PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: 
  [Declude.Virus] Spam .com files being blocked.
  1.82 is what I am running.
  
  I get an IP address with vulnerabilities and with 
  viruses but not withBanned file extensions.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Andy Schmidt 
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:38 
AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Spam .com 
files being blocked.

Hm,


What version of Declude Virus are you using?

mine reads:
03/16/2005 11:49:53 Q63864DC00020B8C3 Deleting file with 
virus03/16/2005 11:49:53 Q63864DC00020B8C3 Deleting E-mail with 
virus!03/16/2005 11:49:53 Q63864DC00020B8C3 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS 
[MIME: 2 17610]03/16/2005 11:49:53 Q63864DC00020B8C3 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [incoming from 
217.247.3.127]03/16/2005 11:49:53 Q63864DC00020B8C3 
Subject: Re: Hi
and I'm pretty certain that I've been able to get Virus statistcs 
(using DLAnalyzer)with the originating IP long BEFORE Declude 
2.0?

IP 
Summary Virus Report

Total 
Incoming Messages from External Networks: 2,792Virus Infected Messages: 
593Percentage Infected: 21.24%

IP 
ADDRESS 
# INFECTED 
PERCENTAGE061092229014.ctinets.com.200.72%par69-3-82-224-162-161.fbx.proxad.net160.57%nitrogen.onspeed.com.130.47%maywood-is-0003.webhost.hm-software.com..120.43%ip-225-194.sn1.eutelia.it.90.32%195.25.76.51..80.29%202.163.77.18180.29%253-111.ip.ll.net.80.29%cc273613-a.emmen1.dr.home.nl..80.29%62-101-126-213.fastres.net80.29%IGLD-80-230-80-220.inter.net.il...80.29%host158-188.pool8249.interbusiness.it.80.29%host54-157.pool8251.interbusiness.it..80.29%host213-118.pool8257.interbusiness.it.80.29%210.92.57.169.70.25%host209-107.pool82104.interbusiness.it70.25%santaana-a392.racsa.co.cr.50.18%host-217-172-243-1.gdynia.mm.pl...50.18%wsip-70-182-91-175.ok.ok.cox.net..50.18%ARouen-203-1-37-98.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr..50.18%89.102.99-84.rev.gaoland.net..50.18%151.197.99.18640.14%ppp-84-73.29-151.libero.it40.14%d12a1.ppp.halden.net..40.14%d126a1.ppp.halden.net.40.14%d49a1.ppp.halden.net..40.14%adsl2p158.access.maltanet.net.40.14%santaana-a219.racsa.co.cr.40.14%ip88.bb203.pacific.net.hk.40.14%207-255-1-025-static.jst.pa.atlanticbb.net40.14%

Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtHM Systems Software, Inc.600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203Upper Saddle River, NJ 
07458-1846Phone: +1 
201 934-3414 x20 (Business)Fax: +1 201 
934-9206http://www.HM-Software.com/ 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Scott FisherSent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 
  12:02 PMTo: Declude.Virus@declude.comSubject: Re: 
  [Declude.Virus] Spam .com files being blocked.
  Unfortunately Declude doesn't list the IP: 
  (Maybe this could be corrected?)
  
  03/15/2005 19:09:58 Q876023ed02a22c68 Banning 
  file with com extension [image/gif].03/15/2005 19:10:00 
  Q876023ed02a22c68 Found a bogus .com file03/15/2005 19:10:00 
  Q876023ed02a22c68 Scanned: Banned file extension. [MIME: 3 
  10049]03/15/2005 19:10:00 Q876023ed02a22c68 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
attachment: HMSoftSmall.jpg
attachment: HMSoftSmall.jpg


[Declude.Virus] Foto.rar

2005-01-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
Another variation - came with a foto.rar attachment.

Received: from host46.ipowerweb.com [66.235.216.140] by hm-software.com
  (SMTPD32-8.14) id A70B620D0124; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:48:27 -0500
Received: from riqotscr (168.113.230.53)
by host46.ipowerweb.com; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:48:22 -0800
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: photo
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:48:22 -0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary==_NextPart_000_0091_01C4F282.E483B826
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165
X-Declude: Version 1.82; D970a620d01240fca.SMD from host46.ipowerweb.com
[66.235.216.140]
X-Declude: Triggered [0] WEIGHTSNIFFER
X-Countries: UNITED STATES-[ARIN Unlisted]-destination
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: U
X-UIDL: 406759401

Hi Pete!
My porn photo, only for you ;)
With love, Alice.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Goran:

Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you hold all
virus files?  

I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file is
already too big as it is.)

Best Regards
Andy 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Andy,

Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am using to
requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link back to
the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really really
want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically into
the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user gets it
within 30 minutes.

I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago about
having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
bother with that. 

I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me know

 
 
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?
 
  1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
files,
 and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it 
 blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. 
 
 Beautiful!
 
 Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files G
 
 (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta
give
 those customers SOME practical way to send/receive restricted file
 types.)
 
 Best Regards
 Andy
 
 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

2005-01-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
I may have to start doing that.  I used to be able to keep 30 days of logs -
but volume, dictionary attacks and SPAM volume are making it increasingly
difficult.

Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

HM Systems Software, Inc.
600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:+1 201 934-9206

http://www.HM-Software.com/


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 05:15 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Notices only go out for banned files.  We include a statement that the email
will be available to be requeued for x number of days...so automatic
processes clean it up if it's unclaimed.

Regarding the space problem, are you moving logs off to another partition on
a nightly basis?  Between that, automatic cleanup, and zipping old logs ours
stays pretty clean.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Hi Goran:

Oh, I've been thinking about just that.  However does that mean you hold all
virus files?

I don't think I could afford the additional disk space (the spool file is
already too big as it is.)

Best Regards
Andy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:48 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?


Andy,

Someone posted on this list a while ago a small ASP page that I am using to
requeue a banned file. I send out a bannotify.eml what has the link back to
the server with the appropriate file name. The user says I really really
want this file and clicks on the link. It gets requeued automatically into
the spool directory and it is not scanned/banned again and the user gets it
within 30 minutes.

I remember that there was some discussion on the list a while ago about
having the users authenticate and fill in a form etc. I decided not to
bother with that.

I can send you my bannotify.eml and the asp file if you wish. Let me know




 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.Virus- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 6:27 PM
 To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] RAR Support - why not?

  1.82 will treat encrypted .RAR files the same as encrypted .ZIP
files,
 and will block banned file extensions in .RAR files the same way as it 
 blocks banned file extensions in .ZIP files. 

 Beautiful!

 Now we just need McAfee to scan inside RAR files G

 (Globally banning zipped .EXE files is not an option for me - I gotta
give
 those customers SOME practical way to send/receive restricted file
 types.)

 Best Regards
 Andy


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