Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 23/06/2013 Jörg Schmidt wrote: At the moment a question: Would there be problems if we did our work, mainly in German, coordinate? This wouldn't be particularly problematic (we already have German-only lists),

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-25 Thread Jörg Schmidt
-Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 8:54 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 23/06/2013 Jörg Schmidt wrote: At the moment a question: Would there be problems if we did our work, mainly in German, coordinate? This wouldn't be particularly problematic (we already have German-only lists), provided that there is regular interaction with this list too, since in that

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
-Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] So in concrete, what we need to implement Dave's proposal is: 1) A description of PrOOoBox (two lines in English) from the PrOOoBox volunteers; send it in any form you wish, even here by e-mail, and it

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
-Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] It is not clear to me if you do not understand what was said, or whether you disagree with what was said. Or maybe a combination of both? My question is whether the outcome of the vote (Dave wrote: Do we all

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] It is not clear to me if you do not understand what was said, or whether you disagree with what was said. Or maybe a combination of both? My

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
-Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] If it was developed, approved and released as an Apache OpenOffice product, then many things are possible. For example, we could transfer the domain name prooo-box.org to Apache and host the website here. We could

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Dr. Michael Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: Hi Rob, I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly. I'm

Re: [DISCUSS] Contributing Existing Works [Was: Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites]

2013-06-23 Thread Jörg Schmidt
-Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:01 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: [DISCUSS] Contributing Existing Works [Was: Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites] On Jun 21, 2013, at 7

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-23 Thread Detlef Nannen
Hallo, Am 22.06.2013 22:57, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Thank you for this clear next steps. So in concrete, what we need to implement Dave's proposal is: 1) A description of PrOOoBox (two lines in English) from the PrOOoBox volunteers; send it in any form you wish, even here by e-mail,

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-23 Thread Detlef Nannen
Hallo, Am 22.06.2013 22:57, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Thank you for this clear next steps. So in concrete, what we need to implement Dave's proposal is: 1) A description of PrOOoBox (two lines in English) from the PrOOoBox volunteers; send it in any form you wish, even here by e-mail,

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Detlef Nannen detlef.nan...@prooo-box.org wrote: Hallo, Am 22.06.2013 22:57, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Thank you for this clear next steps. So in concrete, what we need to implement Dave's proposal is: 1) A description of PrOOoBox (two lines in English)

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-23 Thread Detlef Nannen
Hello Rob, And something optional, if you think this would be useful. I can write up a blog post interview with the creators of PrOOoBox, where you can tell the story of this software collection. I'd do the interview in English, of course, but we could also include a German translation in

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-22 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Am 22.06.2013 00:04, schrieb Rob Weir: In my very first post on the topic, I wrote: So one solution discussed was to do similar to what we do with the main English pages with winPenPack. We have a general page for 3rd party ports and distributions: http://www.openoffice.org/porting/

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-22 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] In my very first post on the topic, I wrote: [...] yes, that's right. I had read that. That was true then. That is true now. This is not quite correct. The point is that Dave has suggested that there should be language-specific pages. In

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-22 Thread RGB ES
2013/6/22 Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] In my very first post on the topic, I wrote: [...] yes, that's right. I had read that. That was true then. That is true now. This is not quite correct. The point is that Dave has suggested

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-22 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: RGB ES [mailto:rgb.m...@gmail.com] I think that that was suggested since the beginning by Rob... so yes, an oo.o/de/porting site or similar is possible. All right, then I had not understood correctly. But please specifically, because *I* do not know exactly what to do currently:

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-22 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote: Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: Hi Rob, I can understand

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 22, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote: Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann

[DISCUSS] Contributing Existing Works [Was: Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites]

2013-06-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 21, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Peter Junge wrote: On 6/21/2013 9:59 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] What is the problem? The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project. It was not reviewed and approved for release by the project. It is a

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 22/06/2013 Rob Weir wrote: It might help if you stated, in your own words, what you think should be done. Make a mini-proposal: what pages will be added, etc. I think Dave's proposal in http://markmail.org/thread/6ozfpfo5xcigyw6j is now moving things forward in the most reasonable way.

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Rob, -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:28 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Jörg Schmidt Subject: Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello Rob, -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:28 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Jörg Schmidt Subject: Re: Can somebody please commit the update

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] What is the problem? The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project. It was not reviewed and approved for release by the project. It is a 3rd party product. The website says it is from Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..: No,

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread RA Stehmann
Hi Rob, I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly. I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the ASF but distributed by the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V... But on the other hand the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.. isn't any old third

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello, From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] What is the problem? The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project. It was not reviewed and approved for release by the project. It is a 3rd party product.

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote: On 6/21/2013 9:59 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] What is the problem? The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project. It was not reviewed and approved for release by

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: Hi Rob, I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly. I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the ASF but distributed by the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V...

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread RGB ES
2013/6/21 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: Hi Rob, I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly. I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the ASF but distributed

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: RA Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly. I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the ASF but distributed by the Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V... No, that's not right! The

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: Hi Rob, I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly. I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the ASF but distributed by the

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Am 21.06.2013 17:35, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: From: RA Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly. I'm with you, that we have to make clear, the Box isn't a product of the ASF but distributed by the Verein Freies Office

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote: Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: Hi Rob, I can understand your concerns, but they aren't drasticly. I'm with you, that we have to make

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 21, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote: Am 21.06.2013 17:06, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: Hi Rob, I can understand your

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] Someone is responsible for the box and it semms to me, it's not the ASF. So we have to make clear, who's the legal entity distributing the box (even it's a gift). The legal entity is, in this case, formally an group

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jorg Schmidt
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] My recollection of the discussion was. (1) Have a 3rd party page. (2) Each language may have their own 3rd party page. (3) Each language can have their own news feed. (4) Each news item may link to a 3rd party page. Conclusion.

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Jörg Schmidt
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] I assume for #4 that you mean the news feed points to the ASF-hosted page that lists 3rd party distributions, but not to the 3rd party page directly. That is my understanding, at least. It could say, for example, PrOOo Box now released with

Re: Can somebody please commit the update of the de-websites

2013-06-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] I assume for #4 that you mean the news feed points to the ASF-hosted page that lists 3rd party distributions, but not to the 3rd party page directly. That is my