Re: way for an sa-update channel to specify that GPG keys are required

2005-12-21 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 08:22:30PM -0800, Justin Mason wrote: gpg-signed 4598349584 http://url/of/GPG.KEYS ie. a keyid that must be present on the files for the update to be valid, and an URL that that keyid's

Re: ruleqa site and promoting rule replacements

2006-01-01 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Myers writes: Justin Mason wrote: I suspect you may have been looking at the default view -- which is the most recent mass-check. Since that's almost always going to be a buildbot-driven mass-check of the sandbox rules, it won't include

Re: spamassassin.org was broken ... for a few weeks ...

2006-01-02 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: /var/named/spamassassin.org had: .mine $INCLUDE /var/named/spamassassin.org.d/soa_line === ; see directory layout at EOF $INCLUDE /var/named/spamassassin.org.d/soa_line .r358190 Guess who did that. sorry! ;)

Solaris, reboots, and buildbot

2006-01-02 Thread Justin Mason
So, the buildbot and bbmass systems have been down since Dec 25, coincidentally since the zone was shut down and rebooted: jmpts/2c-24-127-183-241 Mon Jan 2 19:33 still logged in jmsshd c-24-127-183-241 Mon Jan 2 19:33 still logged in felicity pts/2

'make test' failing in buildbot

2006-01-02 Thread Justin Mason
http://buildbot.spamassassin.org:8010/t-debian-stable/builds/0/test/0 t/rule_testsNOK 36# Test 36 got: '0' (t/rule_tests.t at line 108 fail #35) # Expected: '1' (Test for 'T_INVALID_DATE' (type: 8) against 'Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:59:60 -0500')

Re: DATE_IN_ tests

2006-01-03 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Parker writes: John Myers wrote: The rule promotion criteria don't appear to be doing the right thing with the DATE_IN_* tests. These tests are essentially a group. Once one of them has been paid for, the rest have negligible

Re: Solaris, reboots, and buildbot

2006-01-03 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Schulz writes: The main prob is that /etc/rc3.d/S91bbmass , and /etc/rc3.d/S91buildbot didn't seem to run -- or at least if they *were* run, the daemons didn't stay up, and didn't log anything. There's a possibility that there were

Re: tvd-evaltoplugin

2006-01-03 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Gardiner Myers writes: Loren Wilton wrote: Others have suggested adding new basic rule types with plugins, which is probably not a terrible idea. But on the other hand, I'd suggest that cleaning up internal structure as necessary to

Re: tvd-evaltoplugin

2006-01-03 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Quinlan writes: John Gardiner Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think one weakness in the design of eval tests in general is that their definition is split into two different places, a function definition in some .pm file and a

Re: defining new rule types

2006-01-03 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Myers writes: Justin Mason wrote: Agreed that adding new rule types is *doable*, if not exactly intuitive. I've done it in the URIBL code, by simply adding eval rules on the fly, and that seems to work OK. It'd be nice to have a more

T_ prefixes on sandbox rules

2006-01-03 Thread Justin Mason
sandbox peeps: So, due to the changes made just before xmas, the sandbox rules no longer need the T_ prefix, and if one is found, it implies tflags nopublish -- in other words, it indicates that that rule is not considered publishable. This means that if you have rules in a sandbox that you

monitoring.apache.org watching out for us

2006-01-04 Thread Justin Mason
http://monitoring.apache.org/status/ is now monitoring SpamAssassin.zones.apache.org. It'll mail here if things fall over. --j.

Re: monitoring.apache.org watching out for us

2006-01-04 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 11:25:05AM -0800, Justin Mason wrote: http://monitoring.apache.org/status/ is now monitoring SpamAssassin.zones.apache.org. It'll mail here if things fall over. Cool! We should also add

Re: Solaris, reboots, and buildbot

2006-01-04 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Schulz writes: Thomas Schulz writes: You may have to put some debugging echo lines in the scripts and then watch the console during boot. I don't think that output to standard out is logged anywhere, it just appears on the console

Re: monitoring.apache.org watching out for us

2006-01-04 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 12:19:58PM -0800, Justin Mason wrote: Feel free to work up a patch against infrastructure/trunk/nagios. Guess who's been volunteered ;) Yeah, if I wasn't all hectic this week (see previous mail

Re: DATE_IN_ tests

2006-01-06 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Gardiner Myers writes: DATE_IN_FUTURE_48_96 has an S/O of 1.0, yet is disabled. Others have S/O values that are just barely under the current threshold. The results are nonsensical. That highly suggests there is something wrong with

Re: Charset normalization issue (report, patch, and request)

2006-01-09 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Myers writes: I must say I was quite pleasantly surprised to find my change tested so quickly during a weekend. I don't use Bayes, so I won't be putting a lot of effort into Japanese support in Bayes. I will review your proposals:

review reminder

2006-01-10 Thread Justin Mason
We need quite a lot of reviews on the 3.1.1 milestone. --j.

updates being published

2006-01-13 Thread Justin Mason
Using SVN trunk, this now works: sudo sa-update sudo /etc/init.d/spamassassin reload note that you need to import the GPG key: wget http://spamassassin.apache.org/updates/GPG.KEY gpg --import GPG.KEY The updates are being distributed via Coral (http://coralcdn.org/) to save load.

Re: Charset normalization issue (report, patch, and request)

2006-01-13 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Myers writes: Motoharu Kubo wrote: The problem here is the use bytes pragma at the top of Bayes.pm--you'll want to remove that. Removing it will have some follow-on consequences--the use bytes pragma will probably also have to be removed

Re: Charset normalization issue (report, patch, and request)

2006-01-14 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Loren Wilton writes: As an outsider, I find myself strongly agreeing with Motohraru-san that, when dealing with at least the oriental multibyte languages, tokinization belongs early in the stream, before both bayes and rules. Of course this is

Re: updates being published

2006-01-14 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Warren Togami writes: Justin Mason wrote: Using SVN trunk, this now works: sudo sa-update sudo /etc/init.d/spamassassin reload Cool. Is it in the plans for sa-update to be usable with the 3.1.1 release too? I think Theo

Re: Charset normalization issue (report, patch, and request)

2006-01-15 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Loren Wilton writes: Currently, Bayes is the only code that actually *uses* knowledge of how a string is tokenized into words; this isn't exposed to the rules at all. This isn't even slightly true! Virtually every rule written against English

Re: I18n and l10n

2006-01-17 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Motoharu Kubo writes: Justin Mason wrote: (1) rewrite from BODY to RAWBODY as Matsuda-san says. (2) invent NBODY (or something else) apart from BODY. NBODY contains normalized and tokenized version of body. I once thought

Re: error during nightly mkrules update

2006-01-17 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: rulesrc/sandbox/hstern/70_syndicate.cf: WARNING: 'rules/sandbox-hstern.pm' not listed in manifest file, line ignored: loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Sandbox::hstern sandbox-hstern.pm That's not strictly an error,

Re: updates being published

2006-01-18 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henry Stern writes: include updates_spamassassin_org/MIRRORED.BY should not be include'd; needs to be fixed in sa-update, but pretty easy. include updates_spamassassin_org/languages include updates_spamassassin_org/triplets.txt include

Re: updates being published

2006-01-19 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Warren Togami writes: Justin Mason wrote: Warren Togami writes: Justin Mason wrote: Using SVN trunk, this now works: sudo sa-update sudo /etc/init.d/spamassassin reload Cool. Is it in the plans for sa-update to be usable

nightly mass-check oddness

2006-01-22 Thread Justin Mason
I got lots of this: + ./mass-check --progress --tail=2 -j 4 -f /home/masschk/cor/tgts rules: failed to run SUBJ_HAS_UNIQ_ID test, skipping: (Can't locate object method check_for_unique_subject_id via package Mail ::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus at

Re: Host alert: spamassassin.zones.apache.org is DOWN

2006-01-24 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 this is a scheduled outage, btw. - --j. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *** ASF Nagios *** Notification Type: PROBLEM Host: spamassassin.zones.apache.org Address: 207.7.158.200 State: DOWN Info: $ Date/Time: Tue Jan 24 19:10:53 GMT 2006

Re: review reminder

2006-01-24 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daryl C. W. O'Shea writes: * 4623needs 1 vote * [review] update to support Mail::DomainKeys API change Without this patch DomainKeys doesn't work with the latest DomainKeys module from CPAN. patch has been open for voting since

Re: svn commit: r372080 - /spamassassin/trunk/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/HTML.pm

2006-01-25 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 02:48:59AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + # bug 4695: we want br/ to be treated the same as br, and + # the HTML::Parser API won't do it for us + # if ($self-{preclean_empty_elements}) {

Re: bizarre code from logs-to-c

2006-01-26 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Quinlan writes: Does the last part of this patch make *any* sense? It's Allen code from January 2003 (bug 1088), checked in without a comment probably because none of us understood it. (The single line changes in the patch are fine.)

Re: sandbox loadplugins happening after rules in 70_sandbox.cf

2006-01-31 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: I was just noticing that my test rules which use my sandbox-felicity.pm plugin aren't hitting any mails. Doing some debugging, I found that the loadplugin line occurs after all of the rules and their respective ifplugin

Re: Spamassassin / Spamd speedup

2006-01-31 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MATSUDA Yoh-ichi writes: So, I have an another idea. The idea is 'multiple local DNSBLs/URIBLs proxy or cache server'. It's like 'Squid' http proxy server, but runs for DNSBLs/URIBLs. This idea is effective for large site owner, I believe. But

Re: svn commit: r374570 - /spamassassin/trunk/masses/mass-check

2006-02-03 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 02:48:36AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + # this is usually ${TOPDIR}/masses my $dir = $FindBin::Bin || .; @@ -726,7 +727,9 @@ else { - open (SVNINFO, ( svn info

Re: t/spf.t question

2006-02-04 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daryl C. W. O'Shea writes: Sidney Markowitz wrote: Do tests 13 and 14 in t/spf.t work for anyone? They haven't for me for a long time and I thought it was a configuration issue here, but I am looking at it and I don't see how they are

Re: sandbox loadplugins happening after rules in 70_sandbox.cf

2006-02-06 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:53:08AM -0800, Justin Mason wrote: There's no guarantee that sandbox code will be of a distributable quality, yet. As a result we should not distribute .pm's from the sandbox dir, and only

Re: svn commit: r375261 - /spamassassin/trunk/build/mkrules

2006-02-06 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 that's not a horrible kludge, it's quite elegant ;) - --j. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Author: felicity Date: Mon Feb 6 04:04:08 2006 New Revision: 375261 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=375261view=rev Log: for now, use a horrible

Re: sandbox loadplugins happening after rules in 70_sandbox.cf

2006-02-06 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daryl C. W. O'Shea writes: Theo Van Dinter wrote: I think I found a third bug btw: 3) mkrules tries to make sure that loadplugin lines go into the same file as ifplugin sections, which won't work if the ifplugin sections span multiple

Re: sandbox loadplugins happening after rules in 70_sandbox.cf

2006-02-06 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 04:55:53PM -0800, Justin Mason wrote: The major side-effect of this would be that .pm files in a rulesrc/sandbox/* dir have to be moved into the rulesrc/core dir before their rules can become

Re: local_state_dir stuff in 3.2 breaks eval rules ...?

2006-02-10 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: While responding to ticket 4788: On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 09:12:10PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not use versioned local_state_dir? Wouldn't doing this upon initial production launch of this capability in

Re: local_state_dir stuff in 3.2 breaks eval rules ...?

2006-02-10 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 01:15:11PM -0800, Justin Mason wrote: No -- because all the code-related rules are distributed in the sa-update tarball as well. Aha! Right, that's the whole active set thing which I'm still

Re: Rule Timeouts (was users@ Re: Two mails completely blocking SA 3.1.0 !)

2006-02-16 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daryl C. W. O'Shea writes: Matthias Keller wrote: Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 04:48:17PM -0500, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: I do have the two messages causing this on my SA 3.1.0 and the debug output - it always

Re: Policy for 3.1 rule updates?

2006-02-22 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: I'd like to see us start publishing rule updates for 3.1 sometime here in the near future. This got me to wondering what our policy should be about it, specifically 3.1 code is in R-T-C so should the rules be also? Based on history, I don't think we'll be able to get

zone bug?

2006-02-22 Thread Justin Mason
: jm 64...; dig spamassassin.org soa ; DiG 9.3.1 spamassassin.org soa ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 971 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 4 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;spamassassin.org. IN

Re: Nightly mass check scores?

2006-02-22 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 05:15:43AM -0500, Warren Togami wrote: Are the scores in the nightly 3.2.0-svn build completely untuned? My fp-fn-statistics have always been looking very bad like this. Yes, the 3.2 scores have not been generated yet, so any statistics

Re: Nightly/Weekly mass-checks ... where are folks?

2006-02-22 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: I was looking at the corpus area and was noticing that the only people who are currently doing nightly/weekly runs are: bzoetekouw cthielen daf parkerm theo zmi The buildbot ones haven't been updated in almost a week, jm hasn't put results in for almost a

Re: Nightly/Weekly mass-checks ... where are folks?

2006-02-26 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 03:03:26PM +0100, Michael Monnerie wrote: So you didn't see my question, obviously ;-) Again: Is the spamfile in rsync.spamassassin.org/mailcorpus_zmi/spam/ also of use? It's all hand sorted. Actually I did see it, I just didn't have

Re: tvd-evaltoplugin

2006-02-27 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 12:52:16AM -0800, Loren Wilton wrote: Without looking at the code, and as something of an outsider, some thoughts that may be useful: :) 1. Is there any notable rule efficiency difference between being an eval and being a plugin?

Re: Issues with nightly runs rsync, docs, etc.

2006-02-27 Thread Justin Mason
Duncan Findlay writes: On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 11:47:34PM -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 11:32:57PM -0500, Duncan Findlay wrote: So the problem here is that mkrules is never run, so the majority of rules aren't actually run. I've added in a mkrules call into the

Re: Policy for 3.1 rule updates?

2006-02-27 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 09:59:44AM +, Justin Mason wrote: Theo Van Dinter writes: I'd like to see us start publishing rule updates for 3.1 sometime here in the near future. This got me to wondering what our policy should be about it, specifically 3.1 code

Re: Policy for 3.1 rule updates?

2006-02-28 Thread Justin Mason
Daniel Quinlan writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin Mason) writes: As for the rule updates... Here's my thought. I propose we have the rule updates be C-T-R to start. If that doesn't work out, we can change to R-T-C easily. If no one vetos this proposal by 00:00 GMT on 2/28, we'll take

Re: Policy for 3.1 rule updates?

2006-03-01 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 04:01:03PM -0500, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Do we have a rule scoring policy for rule updates yet? Not really. I figured periodically (monthly?) we'd end up calling on nightly/weekly submitters to run a special version (say, 3.1 with the

Re: Nightly mass-checks

2006-03-01 Thread Justin Mason
Duncan Findlay writes: On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 10:29:10PM -0600, Doc Schneider wrote: 5) Anyone having a particular problem that should be addressed for doing mass-checks? Now that I think about it, with the rules sandbox stuff, the SVN checkout probably won't always get the same

iffy behaviour with SVN external and svn up -r

2006-03-01 Thread Justin Mason
Hi -- We in Apache SpamAssassin have run into what appears to be a bit of an SVN externals misfeature. We have our main trunk at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/trunk , which contains 'rulesrc', an external for https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/rules/trunk . (We use

Re: Nightly/Weekly mass-checks ... where are folks?

2006-03-01 Thread Justin Mason
Michael Monnerie writes: On Sonntag, 26. Februar 2006 04:12 Theo Van Dinter wrote: Really?  I didn't see it or else I would have responded earlier. :( So you didn't see my question, obviously ;-) Again: Is the spamfile in rsync.spamassassin.org/mailcorpus_zmi/spam/ also of use? It's

Re: iffy behaviour with SVN external and svn up -r

2006-03-02 Thread Justin Mason
Kenneth Porter writes: On Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:00 PM + Justin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can understand that it may be tricky to implicitly perform the svn update -r on the external, too, since that may be coming from a different repository. Did you raise

Re: iffy behaviour with SVN external and svn up -r

2006-03-02 Thread Justin Mason
Doc Schneider writes: Justin Mason wrote: Hi -- [nipped] Cheers for SVN! Loving it apart from that ;) --j. Jason, Is apache.org running the latest v1.3.0 of SVN? I haven't installed it here yet but am thinking on doing so. as a client? I think it'll work fine -- iirc I'm

Re: rsync area non-functional, now fixed

2006-03-05 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: I removed the newly added --ignore-externals option which doesn't exist in svn 1.1.4 (the version on the zones machine) and replaced it with a rm -rf after the initial export. I'm really not sure why helios doesn't get svn 1.3 installed, but ... maybe we'll just

Re: svn commit: r383618 - in /spamassassin: rules/trunk/core/25_replace.cf rules/trunk/core/60_whitelist_spf.cf trunk/rules/25_replace.cf trunk/rules/60_whitelist_spf.cf

2006-03-06 Thread Justin Mason
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Author: felicity Date: Mon Mar 6 10:55:15 2006 New Revision: 383618 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=383618view=rev Log: more config files that go with plugins, so they should be in rules and not rulesrc Hold on -- I'm not keen on this. What's wrong

moving uribl to rules dir (Re: svn commit: r383618 - in /spamassassin: rules/trunk/core/25_replace.cf rules/trunk/core/60_whitelist_spf.cf trunk/rules/25_replace.cf trunk/rules/60_whitelist_spf.cf )

2006-03-07 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 08:11:24PM +, Justin Mason wrote: more config files that go with plugins, so they should be in rules and not rulesrc Hold on -- I'm not keen on this. What's wrong with ifplugin? There's nothing wrong with ifplugin, but the idea

Re: Alarm Leaks (was: Re: [sa-list] Re: Spamd keeps getting hung up!)

2006-03-07 Thread Justin Mason
Daryl C. W. O'Shea writes: Justin Mason wrote: Dan Mahoney, System Admin writes: And 4) This whenever it gets hung up (those __alarm__ things couldn't be more vague, could they?): Mar 2 12:53:07 quark spamd[94770]: __alarm__ Mar 2 12:53:07 quark spamd[94770]: __alarm__ that's

Re: moving uribl to rules dir (Re: svn commit: r383618 - in /spamassassin: rules/trunk/core/25_replace.cf rules/trunk/core/60_whitelist_spf.cf trunk/rules/25_replace.cf trunk/rules/60_whitelist_spf.cf

2006-03-07 Thread Justin Mason
John Myers writes: Theo Van Dinter wrote: When it comes down to it, the body/header/etc rules aren't any different from other code, beyond the fact that they have the same API for ages. Similarly, the DNS rules have had the same API for ages. Adding and removing new block lists can

Re: RFC: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-07 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 10:19:07AM -0800, John Myers wrote: I'm not so big on turning off the functionality. We shouldn't erect barriers against our being able to later publish full rules through sa-update. My POV is that we will never publish full rules again

Re: svn commit: r384018 - /spamassassin/trunk/masses/mass-check

2006-03-07 Thread Justin Mason
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mass-check was using the Last Changed Revision # from the source tree to figure out what version was in use, but we use the raw revision # when specifying nightly/weekly runs, and the two numbers are very rarely equal, so it gets hard to track with different numbers.

Re: RFC: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-07 Thread Justin Mason
Doc Schneider writes: D'Oh! I meant Justin not Jason. His jmason always throws me. ::thud:: heh, I've given up noticing that long ago ;) --j.

code-tied rules / full as plugin

2006-03-08 Thread Justin Mason
Loren Wilton writes: If it's a plugin, it has to be a code-tied rule! Otherwise it wouldn't need the plugin. Hey, what a neat way to completely disable the initial concept of the Rules project and put things back into the Land Of Arcana where they belong! Just move 'body', 'rawbody',

Re: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-08 Thread Justin Mason
Dallas L. Engelken writes: -Original Message- From: Loren Wilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 03:09 To: dev@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin Let me suggest that this is a *REALLY* *BAD*

Re: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-08 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 09:36:04PM +, Justin Mason wrote: If nothing else, I am for simply changing the way rawbody rules are evaluated... Because the current line by line evaluation is too restrictive, and using a handfull of rules and meta'ing them together

Re: move full rule functionality into a default-off plugin

2006-03-09 Thread Justin Mason
Loren Wilton writes: It does introduce the danger of algorithmic complexity attacks if .* is used instead of .{0,20} though -- but we may be able to help this if we spot that kind of thing in --lint. I still don't understand why .* is more dangerous in rawbody rules than it is in full

Re: svn commit: r384691 - in /spamassassin/rules/trunk/sandbox/dos: SIQ.cf SIQ.pm

2006-03-10 Thread Justin Mason
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Author: dos Date: Thu Mar 9 19:28:58 2006 New Revision: 384691 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=384691view=rev Log: sandbox: add my SIQ plugin for anyone who's interested insomnia == non-engineered, messy code :( This plugin executes SIQ queries in

Re: sa-update channel mirrors?

2006-03-10 Thread Justin Mason
Daryl C. W. O'Shea writes: On 09/03/06 08:04 PM, Theo Van Dinter wrote: So right after I sent this, something occured to me... We're going to want to have some kind of mirror infrastructure setup for updates. Right now things are setup to use nyud.net, but I don't know if we want

Re: [VOTE] SpamAssassin 3.1.1 release

2006-03-10 Thread Justin Mason
+1 Theo Van Dinter writes: Hi, I have readied a 3.1.1 release set of files and propose that we release 3.1.1: http://people.apache.org/~felicity/released/ Please test out these files and vote as to whether or not to release them as 3.1.1. Thanks. :) My Vote: +1 BTW: my

Re: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 is now available - a maintenance release

2006-03-18 Thread Justin Mason
Sidney Markowitz writes: On 3/17/06 12:38 PM, Kelsey Cummings wrote: Justin - just noticed I've got a red X on my CLA status. I submitted the ASF authorization forms or whatever they were a long time ago. I don't want that to hold up the merging of my proposed patch provide you guys

Re: [Fwd: Re: lint errors after upgrade]

2006-03-23 Thread Justin Mason
Daryl C. W. O'Shea writes: Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 01:52:56AM -0500, Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Why do we have Logger.pm converting spaces to underscores? This seems to be causing nothing but confusion of users. fwiw, it's not spaces: $line =~

Re: Weird comment in DomainKeys plugin

2006-03-24 Thread Justin Mason
Daryl C. W. O'Shea writes: Loren Wilton wrote: Total guess: that comment was left over from domainkeys, from before the SA headers were moved up to the top. Without the comment that'd be clear and is what I'm 99.999% certain it's there for. I don't see how a copy of headers being

nightly mass-check issue with zmi masscheck

2006-04-05 Thread Justin Mason
We have a bit of an issue with recent nightly masschecks -- if you look at http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/ , in the recent mass-checks table at the top, there's the following: 20060404391250 2006-04-04 08:50:34 391250 jm (promotions validated) bzoetekouw cthielen daf theo

Re: nightly mass-check issue with zmi masscheck

2006-04-05 Thread Justin Mason
Bas Zoetekouw writes: Hi Justin! You wrote: Is there any way the script could be run 2 hours earlier? Or even 1 hr 20 minutes earlier? ;) That way it would fall under the correct day in the UTC timezone. What about just tagging the revision at 0:00 UTC? Wouldn't that just solve

Re: nightly mass-check issue with zmi masscheck

2006-04-05 Thread Justin Mason
Bas Zoetekouw writes: Hi Justin! You wrote: What about just tagging the revision at 0:00 UTC? Wouldn't that just solve all problems? no -- it's not the tag-time that matters; it's the time that the mass-check started at, expressed in the UTC timezone. Because the zmi

Re: nightly mass-check issue with zmi masscheck

2006-04-05 Thread Justin Mason
Michael Monnerie writes: On Mittwoch, 5. April 2006 17:21 Justin Mason wrote: no -- it's not the tag-time that matters; it's the time that the mass-check started at, expressed in the UTC timezone.  Because the zmi mass-check happens *after* UTC, it shows up as being in the next day

Re: nightly mass-check issue with zmi masscheck

2006-04-06 Thread Justin Mason
Michael Monnerie writes: On Mittwoch, 5. April 2006 19:22 Justin Mason wrote: (For what it's worth, 0830 UTC was chosen as an hour that's not during working hours for most of the committers; UTC isn't good on that count, since it's 1600 PST.) I don't understand why my results made

Re: mass-check with own rules?

2006-04-12 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 03:12:52PM +0200, Michael Monnerie wrote: Now I would like to add my ZMI_GERMAN ruleset to the mass-check. What would be the correct way to do it? I can think of: If you want them run by everyone, the rules would have to be put into a

Summer of Code

2006-04-13 Thread Justin Mason
this is coming up soon -- do we want to get a couple of entrants for SpamAssassin? If so, I guess we should come up with potential projects. - ARF support plugin (bug 4812) - finishing up the Apache::SpamD module that Michael was working on (bug 4603) - a bigger test suite (suggested by Theo

Re: mass-check with own rules?

2006-04-14 Thread Justin Mason
Michael Monnerie writes: On Mittwoch, 12. April 2006 17:58 Theo Van Dinter wrote: If you want them run by everyone, the rules would have to be put into a sandbox for testing. Ah, somewhere very deep in my head I had that sandbox stuff sitting around, I could remember you speaking about

Re: Summer of Code

2006-04-14 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 04:03:54PM -0500, Michael Parker wrote: - persistent DB connections (suggested by Michael last year) This exists, but is not an ASL friendly license. So a clean room implementation might be cool. I also suggested having things like

T_ prefixes

2006-04-15 Thread Justin Mason
should we silence these noisy warnings during the build? WARNING: KAM_STOCKTIP26: renamed as T_KAM_STOCKTIP26 due to missing T_ prefix WARNING: KAM_STOCKSYM: renamed as T_KAM_STOCKSYM due to missing T_ prefix WARNING: KAM_STOCKSYM2: renamed as T_KAM_STOCKSYM2 due to missing T_ prefix WARNING:

Re: SoC Proposal: Nightly Mass Check for Normal People

2006-04-18 Thread Justin Mason
I think it'd make a great SoC project -- agreed! --j. Warren Togami writes: (Below is just a strawman idea for a project that I think would be very beneficial to the future of the spamassassin project. Please add your ideas or possible implementation details in reply. Then later we can

Re: SoC Proposal: Nightly Mass Check for Normal People

2006-04-18 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 12:31:17AM -0400, Warren Togami wrote: Problems 1) It is only really usable on Linux/Unix hosts, or maybe Cygwin with a bunch of effort, although not easily with any Windows clients. Even if you are a Linux user, it is *TOO

Re: SoC Proposal: Nightly Mass Check for Normal People

2006-04-20 Thread Justin Mason
Warren Togami writes: What do we need to do to move forward with this and make an official SoC project? I think spamassassin should at least mentor this project, but we can host it elsewhere. As for project hosting, our options are either: 1) Fedora Project... not sure but I'll ask. 2)

Re: Is GTUBE rule supposed to be in 70_inactive.cf?

2006-04-22 Thread Justin Mason
Sidney Markowitz writes: In svn trunk, is the GTUBE rule being put in 70_inactive.cf and therefore works in a make test (which copies rules/*.cf for testing) but does not get installed, or is my svn trunk installation misconfigured? doh! could you open a bug? userconf rules should always

easier rule committing?

2006-04-29 Thread Justin Mason
hey, It strikes me that the process to become an ASF committer is turning out to be a little too onerous for some of our purposes. Nowadays we have these rule sandboxes ( http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/RuleSandboxes ), and we want to allow all sorts of people -- including occasional

Re: easier rule committing?

2006-05-01 Thread Justin Mason
Chris Santerre writes: -Original Message- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:38 PM To: dev@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: easier rule committing? - (b) more importantly: is this worth doing? Are we likely to get

Re: easier rule committing?

2006-05-10 Thread Justin Mason
on the zone -- : jm 24...; sudo -u updatesd crontab -l # temporarily disabled - 2006/05/10 - tvd #30 8 * * * bash /home/updatesd/svn/spamassassin/build/mkupdates/run_nightly /var/www/buildbot.spamassassin.org/updatesd/mkupdates.txt 21 #50 8 * * * bash

Re: svn.apache.org down, fyi

2006-05-11 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 04:48:29PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: If you haven't already noticed, the main webserver for apache.org (including svn.apache.org) is down at the moment. Folks in #asfinfra are working on it, moving the services to other servers, so I'd

Re: svn.apache.org down, fyi

2006-05-11 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 10:30:17AM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: I did send out some mails about this yesterday, so I'm not sure why there's a huge surprise now. It's temporary folks, until minotaur (or a new more permanent home for svn and such) is dealt with.

Re: svn commit: r407002 - /spamassassin/trunk/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Message.pm

2006-05-16 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 05:36:45PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: trivial fix: inhibit 'undefined value' warnings --- spamassassin/trunk/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Message.pm (original) +++ spamassassin/trunk/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Message.pm Tue May 16 10:36:45

Re: [VOTE] SpamAssassin 3.1.2 release

2006-05-24 Thread Justin Mason
+1! thanks Theo ;) fwiw, I would suggest putting bug 4802 (DKIM support) at the top of the changelog, since it's a significant new feature; then bug 3838, bug 4850 and bug 4826, since they are pretty major fixes too compared to the rest. --j. Theo Van Dinter writes: Hi there, I have

Re: [VOTE] SpamAssassin 3.1.2 release

2006-05-25 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 11:35:18PM -0500, Michael Parker wrote: I fear that the warning is going to lead to a HUGE support headache. We either need to override the userstate dir for all the tests, add an additional possible userstate dir that will for sure exist or

Re: [VOTE] SpamAssassin 3.1.2 release

2006-05-25 Thread Justin Mason
Theo Van Dinter writes: On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 06:08:15PM +0100, Justin Mason wrote: fwiw, a long term fix would be option (b) -- tests should not be using the user's real userstate dir. Yeah, but that's not actually the issue. The warn() (now info()) is in the M::SA

Re: [VOTE #2] SpamAssassin 3.1.2 release

2006-05-25 Thread Justin Mason
+1 from me --j.

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