Firstly, what sort of government relies on a
ruling from another government's officials to
give it legitimacy? That is the behaviour of a
principality, protectorate or colony.
Secondly, why would any true Libertarian want
to establish yet another government? You can
see what always happens
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Saavy internet traders will use this free
service to verfiy themselves, or their
potential customers. To get verified, go to
https://www.goldnow.st/buy_verify.asp . The
verification costs $5, payable by credit card.
So what's to stop a crook going
It's been a while since I had an e-gold
customer for one of my auctions on ebay
As Ebay is threatening to review my power
seller status, I have listed LOADS of items
(with new ones every day) at most reasonable
pricesCDs...DVDs...Videos...Books...Cards...
I've placed some popular discs for sale at low
starting prices. Come take a look. I've got
over 500 titles, many starting at $5.00, so
request a price list.
Pity they're actually DVD-Rs without cases. And
even more of a pity, I don't own the originals
so I can't bid for them as per your
Always there to make $5 GKLOL
Heck, I'll 'verify' you for $4 e-gold!
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Is this DaVinci Institute mob the same people
who had some sort of legal bunfight a few years
back with some sort of Italian cultural
institution which claims (and apparently has
some legal backing) to 'own' the image of
Leonardo Da Vinci?
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The term Kinko's is the possessive form
meaning belonging to Kinko.
Paul Orfalea, who started the business in
1970, acquired the nickname Kinko because of
his curly, reddish hair.
http://www.kinkos.com/about_us/history.php
For some reason every time I hear the name
Kinko's it reminds me
Another possibility is that if the price of
gold generally increases enough, then the
mining industry will pick up the pace and more
gold will be produced. Gold isn't a finite
resource, it's just that with the relatively
low prices of recent years there isn't much
incentive to mine it out
There's an excellent book on how all charities
are scams: Christian Aid, Community Aid Abroad,
OxFam, Red Cross etc. It's called Lords of
Poverty, I always keep an eye out for spare
copies when I'm visiting (other) bookstores.
Incidentally my e-gold accepting Ebay auctions
are ploughing
OK, last week I came up with a system I'm sure
many of you have considered. Rather than send a
chunk of gold to my regular TGC account and
blow it all, I created a few subsidiary
accounts and doled it out to them so that I
blew it all with seperate logins. The reason
for this is that
We have just received the report from our
customer. I seems that cheater can control the
e-gold tranasction batch number.
Probably not too hard to cheat on this game.
Basically all you need to do is create a
little program that does automatic
microspends into any other account of your
Dear Ben,
it's most obviously that you haven't
understood the subject of my message.
I think most people would have misunderstood
your message.
We just were asking people who have rather
good grammar skills to correct
the mistakes in the given text.
Well I fail to see how the best grammar
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I say it is a poor joke, because in context it
is potentially racist, suggesting that
Vietnamese refugees and other Asians are
There hasn't been a Vietnamese refugee come to
Australia in about 20 years that I'm aware of,
excluding those poor souls who were stuck in
Hong Kong detention
The court heard Ng was part of a skimming
fraud that robbed 315 Sydney customers of the
Westpac, Commonwealth and St George Banks of
$623,426 in October last year.
That Ng chap must be one of the world's master
criminals. I have read accounts over the last
few years of him being involved
Someone mentioned Australia, if you want a
specific famous case if you know Sydney there
is Betty's Soup Kitchen on Oxford St at the
corner of Crown St.. She had a campbell's-like
lettered logo in red and white painted next to
the name Betty's Soup Kitchen. She lost.
Yes, they argued
What a lot of people seem to forget is that
e- gold (or any equivalent) system works a lot
better and cheaper when the number of out-
exchanges is minimal.
I agree. Excellent argument. Robert Ziegler
has made this argument before. He proposes
minimal in-exchange fees so everyone can
What a lot of people seem to forget is that e-
gold (or any equivalent) system works a lot
better and cheaper when the number of out-
exchanges is minimal.
In essence it is a form of barter. If I were to
sell my Products and get paid in e-gold, then
use that e-gold to pay my hosting fees,
Supplementary; I just did a web check and the
group I previously mentioned, Caledonia
Australis, would appear to be at war with
Australia!
http://us.altnews.com.au/print.php?sid=4946
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There was another breakaway Australian nation
mentioned in the press a few months back, I
think it was called Caledonia Australis. I
believe they claim legitimacy through some sort
of Jacobite connections.
Anyway, it was in the news because a couple of
them were denied bail here in Victoria
It might have something to do with what's going
on in Russia at the moment. There are whispers
and rumours about some big re-nationalizations,
so there might be a few oligarchs/gangsters
seeking to invest in something away from the
claws of the state.
Just a hunch, although I note that
6. RCOs have exclusive territories based on
postal ZIP codes.
This will presumably get you a lot of flack
from the lunar-right conspiracy theorists who
have a number of theories involving ZIP codes
and State vs Federal Sovereignty.
And a stupid question: I am redesigning my
weblog after
This does not explain why Italy (which was on
the winning side in WW I) fell into Fascism in
the mid-1920s, over a decade before Germany.
Don't forget that both Great Britain and the
USA could easily have gone 'officially' fascist
in the 20s, just as they could have almost as
easily gone
Anyone with some spare gold, I have just listed
a new round of DVD auctions. All are genuine
and region 1. Includes such goodies as Once
Upon A Time In America (only recently released
on DVD), the Hannibal/Silence of the Lambs
boxed set and the Pulp Fiction Collector's
Edition.
Well, while fun bonds were a pretty good
investment they weren't failsafe.
I lost a bundle one time when tcg was hit by
serious downtime, causing the number of hands
played to be negligible.
But my point is that whether they call them IPO
shares or non-voting shares or 'class B shares'
or
Firstly I'd like to repeat my earlier statement
(probably lost in the storm of posts recently)
that to my keen eye, the TGC offering is
actually a bigger and better version of their
old 'funbonds' scheme. It is a loyalty scheme
designed to share some of their profits with
keen
On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 11:17 AM, Ben
Legume wrote:
And thanks for the person who advised me about
Goldbarter. I used to use them for my auctions
of WMDs, container ships full of narcotics,
suitcase nukes and the like, but ever since I
found out they banned slave dealing (one of my
I have been assuming the whole Dbourse offering
is just an updated version of funbonds, to
encourage customer/investor loyalty.
And thanks for the person who advised me about
Goldbarter. I used to use them for my auctions
of WMDs, container ships full of narcotics,
suitcase nukes and the
I suspect that perhaps his dose of happy pills
is a bit generous. For instance, a couple of
weeks back he was waxing enthusiastically about
the so-called OSRecovery lawsuit and how well it
was going and that he had been having fruitful
discussions with the attorneys for the
plaintiffs.
I
Well, not to beat my own drum too much, but I
accept e-gold (along with more
traditional 'hard' payments) for my books and
DVDs etc. You will usually find a selection on
Ebay, I have a load of zone 1 DVDs ending this
sunday afternoon:
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
3. PO Box addresses are allowed, as long as
you supply your physical
address, as well!
Can normal registered mail shipping be
requested rather than courier? I
need it to be sent to a Box address :)
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Gawd, I just can't get away from the
(Excerpted from on off-list email I just
received)
The OSRecovery civil suit is getting
interesting. Suffice to say that the
core defendants are now being pursued
vigorously, and the co-defendants,
less so. I have had a number of lengthy phone
conferences with the plaintiffs lawyers
The OSRecovery civil suit is getting
interesting. Suffice to say that the
core defendants are now being pursued
vigorously, and the co-defendants,
less so. I have had a number of lengthy phone
conferences with the plaintiffs lawyers this
week, about this and other issues.
Again, weren't you
Well my attempts to find a market maker to
accept small ($50) US money orders made out to
my mail order business has been unsuccesful. I
suspect this is the reason goldchanger has
closed down, from the Cyfrocash site.:
IMPORTANT:
Due to new rules and regulations of the U.S.
Patriot Act and
Not at all. Read my last message - users can
become involved by being classed as an
indepenadant anonymous judge/jury, They earn an
income and start full time on deciding who earns
the right to receive the payment. The terms and
disclaimers would have to make sure both parties
cannot take
A court order is very easy to obtain in almost all juristictions
where only one side is represented. While natural justice would
demand that all parties (particularly the ones against who the
order/s are sought) be represented at a hearing or at least made
aware of it, in the real world that
There was a widely touted theory among underground researchers that
the vast sums of gold sold by the Bank of England about 2 years ago
were actually looted Russian gold reserves. But only crazy conspiracy
theorists believe that sort of thing.
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CORWIND - What is it that you are after? What do you want out of
all this? You are like the Lying Energizer Bunny. What do you want?
GGN
The evidence is against you, also gained by independant people that
have nothing to do with Get Paid Forum.
And what do I want out of this David
Guys,
I'm surprised sad to advise that PayPal, in their infinite
wisdom, have
cancelled my PP account. (Perhaps not so surprising, after all
the horror
stories we have heard about them!) So, GoldNow's PayPal
exchange business is no more.
I'm surprised it lasted this long. Don't they
Well, those laws must not apply to Canadians. Because both myself and
quite a number of my friends are always getting letters (in
Australia) saying that we have won a big prize in the Canadian
lottery and it will be rushed to us just as soon as we send them a
fee.
Incidentally, 'Punter' just
The first project is an environmentally based, new technology
company. The second project will require maximum $100,000,
also an environmental project, with a new personal water
filter idea!
Anyone who invests on this kind of a prospectus, is a pidgeon.
I'm very inclined to agree.
I'm the authorized Representative of the LATVIAN Bank that issues and
services the cards offered below. We DELIVER what we PROMISE! And, I
therefore STRICTLY warn you to nullify your recent posting ASAP!
Daniel Umoren
Say something for me in Latvian then.
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What's happened to Planet Gold? There don't seem to have been any
postings or updates for several months.
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Nesara is a scam, a group of idiot victims of HYIPs (specifically
Omega Trust Trading) who have convinced themselves that the reason
their trillions of dollars hasn't arrived is some massive
government/big bank conspiracy.
You can read more about their lunacy here
I have a question for list members (answer off-list if desired).
Recently while unplugging my blocked sink, I found a small cache of
broken up jewellery and watches in the U-Bend (no, I don't know how
they got there either). A number of the bigger pieces look like they
might be gold (fingers
Well it seems that our friend Saul's campaign has borne fruit. I just
logged into e-gold and there is a big red Security Alert message on
the front page. It leads to some common-sense pieces of advice about
fraudulent escrow services and fraudulent auctions generally.
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It seems to me that you could just as well accuse Ebay and Western
Union to being parties to the fraud. Doesn't ebay charge (or attempt
to charge) the scammers for selling non-existent laptops? What about
the domestic US banks that sell the suckers cashier's cheques? They
don't do this for
The response was to Craig on why we do not give notice before the
site may be down. When this thread started the site was down for 23
minutes. Hardly something to be warned about by a technician prior to
this to warn the digital gold community who is not involved with
Crowne Gold anyhow,
I like those guys who are ALWAYS right !
Well we would get along just fine then.
OK you are right, and I don't know WHO funded my e-gold account
after GoldChanger received about 25 company checks with my e-gold
naccount number on it. That is VERY mysterious, BUT you are right !
No
No, they won't touch personal cheques or company cheques. A company
cheque is nothing more than a personal cheque account with a
letterhead attached. They lull idiots into a false sense of security
then they are astonisheed when the company cheque bounces.
I quote from their FAQ page:
What
Well, Norrin Radd is the name of the Silver Surfer, a comic book
superhero. So you might want to start with 16 year old pimply comics
fanboys.
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No, Goldchanger won't touch 3rd party or 1st party cheques any more.
This is stated quite clearly on their webpage, due to them being badly
defrauded. I believe e-fidex in Europe does, but they mainly deal in
large volumes.
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It may be a coincidence, but one of the bigger HYIP scams of recent
years was the 'Omega Trust', which was (if I recall correctly) a
later incarnation of the Alpha-Omega and Destiny scams.
http://www.quatloos.com/cm-omega/cm-omega.htm
There are numerous sound-alike schemes preying on the
While recently checking an 'underground' bulletin board, I came
across the following thread. I won't post the URL as you can't view
it unless you become a member, which is not an easy thing to do and
in any event memberships at the site are frozen at the moment,
apparently due to Law
Ben,
Thank you for the testimony... yes, we do deal privately with
folks, but we ALSO need to verify customers name, address, and phone
numbers, as we never want to be accused of money laundering, or
dealing with NON entities etc etc. Also, we appreciate our customers,
and want to deal with
I have just listed more auctions accepting E-gold, namely
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=scofflaw_bookssort=3page=2rows=100sin
ce=2showpics=1stab=0
(books and trading cards)
and
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
I wondered why he would proudly advertise in his signature
the 'Goldnow Scam Corporation'!
And it should be pointed out that Kelly is a very common surname
here. There are no doubt dozens of Graham Kellys in every state.
And even if it was the same guy, so ASIC charged some alleged builder
Now available for instant purchase at Ebay, using E-gold (plus
traditional payment methods): Books, books and more books. Lots of
science fiction including some Frank Herbert and H P Lovecraft, plus
some RPG books still left (at time of writing)!
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
To sidestep the flame war brewing here, the best chance for a private
individual to be able to examine the gold holdings would be to becoem
a journalist for, say, wyred magazine, and start making enquiries.
You should at least be able to get an interview with the management
of the facilities,
It's also a movement that has been linked strongly to violence; to
attacks on IRS agents; to blowing up IRS offices, as well as many
other crimes, he said. There's a great deal of criminal activity
associated with the movement.
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I object to this request and will not comply. Individuals are
not required to have socialist security numbers, and many do
not for religious and other reasons. (For example, King David
was rebuked by God for enumerating his people. He only had
to suffer three days of plague or pestilence; I
Sorry if this has been address already, but I get a daily digest
which doesn't get released for a couple of hours.
This announcement was on the Goldchanger.com webpage:
LATEST NEWS!
As some of you have discovered, we have been behind our two day
turnaround time for a while now. We have
The best way to protect your privacy against computerised financial
records is to change your date of birth. While most names aren't
unique, the way They distinguish among the different Ian Greens is
the date of birth. ID numbers of one sort or another are secondary to
that.
Many years ago
If you believe the writings of Lyndon LaRouche, among others (and
although he is fairly mad his research is very reliable) HSBC is one
of the biggest gangster/organised crime banks in the world. That
said, as far as their customers are concerned this is not necessarily
a bad thing for many
I can't tell you how you get an account as an American company - I'd
actually like to know the answer to that before I head back there -
but perhaps knowing who the big banks are there can give you
somewhere to start.
Which isn't much help for the person who asked the question. Have you
ever
Australian ... being a country peopled entirely by criminals
Speak for yourself! My ancestors were free settlers.
I thought we were all Princess Bride fans here? Anyway, if you had a
choice of where to settle, why would you choose the worst continent
on Earth, with the most inhospitable
remember that being a country peopled entirely by criminals (see my
upcoming work 'Australia: What Went Wrong' in 18 volumes), they are
largely used for crime and unsavoury enterprises.
Get your facts right Ben. Australia is not populated entirely by
criminals.
There is one person down in
Yes, but how many of those 17 million accounts have been suspended
due to chargebacks (buyer or seller) or are now dormant due to being
sick of getting ripped off?
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From one of the local rags:
http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5078933%255E2862,00.html
Disgust over coin offer
By KAREN COLLIER, consumer reporter
September 12, 2002
COIN dealers are cashing in on the World Trade Centre tragedy.
Australia's biggest coin dealer is selling silver and
Which reminds me, the following auctions of mine also accept e-gold.
Collectables, trading cards etc:
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=mythoscardssort=0page=1rows=500since=
30include=0showpics=1stab=30
DVDs (a few left)
Here is a question for The Gold Casino interview: Why, when I have a
balance of 1.5 grams and have placed a .75 gram bet on a blackjack
hand, won't it let me double (claiming I have insufficient gold)? A
minor glitch but rather annoying. I may not be a professor of
probabilities and advanced
I thought this might be beneficial to some on this list, esp. given
the way the stockmarket is heading. It is from the redoubtable
www.skolnicksreport.com
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/straps1.html
THE SUCKER TRAPS, Part One
by Sherman H. Skolnick 12/29/01
Some people are just busy with
Someone mentioned that ICafe was involved in scams. Could someone
advise me (off list if irrelevant to e-gold) whaqt this is about, and
does it refer to the icafe.com?
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This morning I finished listing a few bits and pieces on Ebay. All
auctions, naturally, take e-gold.
DVDs and CDs can be viewed here
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewListedItemsuserid=cash_money_brotherinclude=0since=-2
Doctor Who items (cards, some books) can be seen here
I read a fascinating article in Time last year about another online
RPG, the world's Biggest. It is a South Korean game, I think it is
called Homelands, and it is fascinating how real-life gangsters have
muscled into the online world, running protection rackets for
characters and threatening
I don't quite understand this fraud you are alleging. You seem to be
saying that he was unable to register a domain for you so you went to
the domain registrar he was using and did it yourself, and got a
refund. Now you seem to be saying that because you have found out
that someone else is
A few people on the list have been asking recently about
the 'Nigerian scam' and as I have received some offers also, it seems
likely that the list members' emails have been harvested, so I think
it would be a good idea if I wrote about the '419 scam' briefly.
In one form or another this scam
Now it just takes me straight to e-gold.com, as a referral! Nice, was
he doing anything in particualr with it before?
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Thanks JPM! I considered Banana, but I thought that Amazon shipped
the items as per normal.
I'll check it out!
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An associate of my father has been trying to order an educational
series of video tapes from Amazon.com recently. Due to some sort of
restrictive and probably illegal practice they won't ship them to
Australia but only within the US. I am hoping someone reloiable on
the list would be willing,
Apologies if this has already been answered, as I get a daily digest
I may be a few messages behind.
There is no way for a merchant to avoid chargebacks if a sale is done
over the internet. The credit card companies simply don't work that
way. The only way for a merchant to have protection
I just finished the latest round of e-bay auctions accepting e-gold,
mainly CDs and a few DVDs and videos, which can be viewed here
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewListedItemsuserid=www.emailcash.com.aucompleted=0sort=0since=1
And some of the older auctions can be seen here:
Perhaps it's not a good idea for a market-maker to admit that 'their
Gyros won't fly in Scotland', given that a Gyro is roughly equivalent
to a money-order in Britain.
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Somehow I don't think paying tax is high on the to-do list of illegal
immigrants.
Damn it, just when someone pays me for one of my auctions
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewListedItemsuserid=cloud-dragoninclude=0since=30
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
Mark Tantam, financial crime specialist at accountants Deloitte
Touche, was quoted in the London Sun, said The advent of the euro is
the biggest shot in the arm for terrorists and organized crime since
the sale of alcohol was outlawed in the US.
blah blah blah
Does anyone else spot the
If you have enough wealth to worry about such things, diversify your
holdings! Put some in DGCs (more than 1), some in gold bars or coins,
some in real estate, some in commodities, some in appropriate shares
etc. If all else fails, buy canned goods, ammunition and LOTS of
toilet paper and
I've just finished listing my new round of auctions at Ebay. There
are still a few of the older ones running at
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewListedItemsuserid=scholarlymonkinclude=0since=-1sort=2rows=25
The new ones can be seen at
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
Goldchanger's web page seems to have disappeared. Has this
been the case for a while? I only just noticed it.
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There were 0 matches for virtu and lots of matches for pay.
Says a lot about the internet as a whole.
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It would be like if Americans said he got handballed from IBM
(meaning fired)!
In Oz 'handballed' is usually used in a work-related setting when
someone or (more likely) something is transferred to another
department/person. Such as 'the report was a real bugger so I
handballed it to that
Haha. I was just reading some of the posts at freedomhound.com. This
one takes the cake. Is this MLM idiot actually scamming people, or is
he so stupid that he fell victim to one of the 'your e-gold account
has been frozen please give us your password' spam scams? Or maybe
both...
According to the Gold Changer site they are no longer
accepting any types of cheques, (personal, business, bank
or 3rd party) as they have been hit by fraud.
It must have been pretty serious because they aren't able
to fulfill orders for several days according to their site.
Does anyone know
Another Australian phrase I laugh at is sacked (means fired from
place of employment), that always gives me a laugh! eg JP was
sacked from the ad agency for swearing at the client.
It sounds like a football term, to American ears.
Is that the equivalent of a 'low blow' or a blow to the 'lower
Yes, wonderful if you have a soft head, and are into MLM scams. No
doubt you will enjoy reading about matrix overflows and downlines and
so forth almost as much as I did.
Next!
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From
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?
xml=/news/2001/11/02/wnyc02.xml
Thieves try to steal gold under rubble
By Philip Delves Broughton in New York
(Filed: 02/11/2001)
EVIDENCE of a daring but failed heist from vaults beneath the
collapsed World Trade Centre was revealed by
The sarcasism of your first paragraph notwithstanding, I am unsure
as to what the last sentence means in relation to the whole. The only
thing forbidden on goldbarter.com is the sale of human begins as
chattel. What transactions, then, are you avoiding on our site?
My sarcasism is renowned.
Some might call us unscrupulous, but it isn't true! We have
scruples. Chattel human slavery is absolutely forbidden on our site.
If you are selling people, keep that off our site. But, otherwise,
if you have something to sell, sell it.
Why ever not? As a founding member of The Slavery
There are more e-gold auction on ebay, specifically a fine selection
of cds, dvds and videos (with more to come) at
http://cgi6.ebay.com.au/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?
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Just to stop the site getting flooded by eager bargain-hunters, what
he actually means is that the small surcharge has been waived.
Unfortunately you still have to pay Amazon's prices.
Oh well, maybe someone will hack Amazon and set all the prices to
zero or something. Until then, or unless
don't forget also that if large numbers of people are selling
(redeeming) their e-gold for whatever reasons (higher value, concerns
about safety of deposits, people are broke and need their money in a
way they can spend it etc.), some of the bars will need to be sold by
E-Gold to cover their
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