Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles [Summary]

2004-05-16 Thread John Siracusa
On 5/15/04 6:42 AM, Scott Haneda wrote: I wanted to post in detail my experience and what I consider to be a acceptable solution to me in regards to anti-aliased issued with Entourage 2004. I have summarized in this link: http://newgeo.com/monaco/ Thanks to everyone who helped me on this

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-15 Thread Kirk McElhearn
On 5/15/04 1:01 AM, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should also mention, I have tried going into System Pref and telling font smoothing to not be on for fonts 9 point and below, this removed the anti-aliasing, but it made the characters very chunky. Have you tried looking at your

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-15 Thread Kirk McElhearn
On 5/15/04 3:57 AM, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its not that simple, I wish it were, perhaps this can illustrate the problem better: http://newgeo.com/e/ And actually, now that I compare them, why is office 2004 not only smoothing the font, but also altering its representation

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles [Summary]

2004-05-15 Thread Scott Haneda
I wanted to post in detail my experience and what I consider to be a acceptable solution to me in regards to anti-aliased issued with Entourage 2004. I have summarized in this link: http://newgeo.com/monaco// Thanks to everyone who helped me on this one! Perhaps a short snip of all this could

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles [Summary]

2004-05-15 Thread Bruce Klutchko
On 5/15/04 6:42 AM, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to post in detail my experience and what I consider to be a acceptable solution to me in regards to anti-aliased issued with Entourage 2004. I have summarized in this link: http://newgeo.com/monaco// Thanks to everyone who

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles [Summary]

2004-05-15 Thread John Siracusa
On 5/15/04 6:42 AM, Scott Haneda wrote: I wanted to post in detail my experience and what I consider to be a acceptable solution to me in regards to anti-aliased issued with Entourage 2004. I have summarized in this link: http://newgeo.com/monaco// Where is the Profont Latin font? URL?

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles [Summary]

2004-05-15 Thread Paul Berkowitz
On 5/15/04 6:32 AM, Bruce Klutchko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, I tried to view your page but I think that the URL above (http://newgeo.com/monaco//) is wrong or you haven't posted it yet. Just remove the extra / at the end. -- Paul Berkowitz -- To unsubscribe:

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-15 Thread Jordan Friedman
On 5/15/04 1:03 AM, the following spewed forth from John Siracusa's keyboard: Ah, my old nemesis: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/02q3/macosx-10.2/macosx-10.2-13.html#terminal I've been using Entourage since embarrassingly early versions of Emailer [like a lot of the listers here], and I must

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles [Summary]

2004-05-15 Thread Scott Haneda
on 05/15/2004 06:46 AM, Paul Berkowitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/15/04 6:32 AM, Bruce Klutchko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, I tried to view your page but I think that the URL above (http://newgeo.com/monaco//) is wrong or you haven't posted it yet. Just remove the extra / at the

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Scott Haneda
on 05/14/2004 04:01 PM, Scott Haneda at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please tell me there is some way to make this behave how it used to, I would be so happy. I am seriously about to revert to E-rage X because of it. I know so many of you will never notice this as you use HTML email, or have

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Mark Goodman
Scott, it's not your vision. I have 20/20 vision and I also had to bump up the font size so I could read it. 9 point anti-aliased type is just too small to read on a 19 LCD display with a fixed resolution of 1280 x 1024. on 5/14/04 6:01 PM, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, the

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Scott Haneda
on 05/14/2004 04:41 PM, Mark Goodman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, it's not your vision. I have 20/20 vision and I also had to bump up the font size so I could read it. 9 point anti-aliased type is just too small to read on a 19 LCD display with a fixed resolution of 1280 x 1024. Well,

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Dan Crevier
Scott Haneda wrote: on 05/14/2004 04:41 PM, Mark Goodman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, it's not your vision. I have 20/20 vision and I also had to bump up the font size so I could read it. 9 point anti-aliased type is just too small to read on a 19 LCD display with a fixed resolution of

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Scott Haneda
on 05/14/2004 05:54 PM, Dan Crevier at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Haneda wrote: on 05/14/2004 04:41 PM, Mark Goodman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, it's not your vision. I have 20/20 vision and I also had to bump up the font size so I could read it. 9 point anti-aliased type is

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Beth Rosengard
Hi Scott, Try Andale Mono but you'll have to bump it to at least 10 pt to get it to a comparable size with Monaco 9. Note: I can't try this in Entourage 2004 since I'm in Entourage 2001, but at least it's a similar font. Otherwise, do a Google search using monospace fonts macintosh for more

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Paul Berkowitz
On 5/14/04 4:01 PM, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should also mention, I have tried going into System Pref and telling font smoothing to not be on for fonts 9 point and below, this removed the anti-aliasing, but it made the characters very chunky. I don't understand. Do you want

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Paul Berkowitz
On 5/14/04 4:17 PM, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 05/14/2004 04:01 PM, Scott Haneda at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please tell me there is some way to make this behave how it used to, I would be so happy. I am seriously about to revert to E-rage X because of it. I know so many of

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Scott Haneda
on 05/14/2004 06:49 PM, Paul Berkowitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/14/04 4:01 PM, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should also mention, I have tried going into System Pref and telling font smoothing to not be on for fonts 9 point and below, this removed the anti-aliasing, but it

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Scott Haneda
on 05/14/2004 06:50 PM, Paul Berkowitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/14/04 4:17 PM, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 05/14/2004 04:01 PM, Scott Haneda at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please tell me there is some way to make this behave how it used to, I would be so happy. I am

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Paul Berkowitz
On 5/14/04 7:04 PM, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't imagine anyone else will want go back to X after upgrading to 2004, but yes, that's how to do it. I really did not want to either, I thought it would be only a temp thing and that this font display issue would be able to be

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Dan Crevier
Scott Haneda wrote: on 05/14/2004 05:54 PM, Dan Crevier at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Haneda wrote: on 05/14/2004 04:41 PM, Mark Goodman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, good to know it is not my vision going :-) I just went and tried out a few other email apps to see how they all dealt

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Scott Haneda
on 05/14/2004 07:16 PM, Paul Berkowitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/14/04 7:04 PM, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't imagine anyone else will want go back to X after upgrading to 2004, but yes, that's how to do it. I really did not want to either, I thought it would be

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Dan Crevier
Scott Haneda wrote: on 05/14/2004 07:16 PM, Paul Berkowitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/14/04 7:04 PM, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't imagine anyone else will want go back to X after upgrading to 2004, but yes, that's how to do it. I really did not want to either, I thought it

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Paul Berkowitz
On 5/14/04 9:31 PM, Scott Haneda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try a few other fonts and hopefully come to some semi-happy medium. However, I know there are some who will feel as strong about this as I, I even think that Dan Crevier, whom I assume is a developer feels almost similar, since

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread John Siracusa
On 5/14/04 7:01 PM, Scott Haneda wrote: First, the major show stopper for me. In Outlook and Entourage, all previous versions, the display font of Monaco 9 was not anti-aliased, in E-rage 2004, it now is. At 9 point, which is what I want to use, it is unreadable. Gah! Good thing I read

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread John Siracusa
On 5/15/04 12:57 AM, Paul Berkowitz wrote: Dan (who in fact contributed to earlier versions of WASTE and is credited as such in the copyright) devised a modification to WASTE, especially for Entourage 2004, that does implement ATSUI. This is the text engine that has the problem with Monaco.

Re: What to do about this new Entourage and some of my troubles

2004-05-14 Thread Dan Crevier
John Siracusa wrote: On 5/14/04 7:01 PM, Scott Haneda wrote: First, the major show stopper for me. In Outlook and Entourage, all previous versions, the display font of Monaco 9 was not anti-aliased, in E-rage 2004, it now is. At 9 point, which is what I want to use, it is unreadable. Gah! Good