Re: [eug-lug]HELLO!

2004-03-22 Thread Larry Price
to help debug this you will probably need to supply the following info the output of dmesg (excerpt the line where it says something about your modem) the output of lsmod so that we know what kernel drivers are already loaded You should also make sure you can find thhe modem configurator

Re: [eug-lug]Last chance for old equipment

2004-03-12 Thread Larry Price
and the cash. On Friday, March 12, 2004, at 01:06 PM, Jim Beard wrote: I might be interested in Assorted rack trays... Any sliding keyboard holders? Jim On Thursday, March 11, 2004, at 12:09 PM, Larry Price wrote: 7 foot Chatsworth racks Lucent Portmaster PM-3's Assorted rack trays, monitor

[eug-lug]Why your solution to the spam problem won't work.

2004-03-12 Thread Larry Price
I'm posting this here in case some of you haven't seen it yet. http://www.craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt it captures many of the obstacles in the way of a good solution. it's kind of neat perhaps it could be implemented as a web service so that you could easily construct a response just by

Re: [eug-lug]second NIC for dedicated connection

2004-03-10 Thread Larry Price
route -an fs:ifconfig -a gbox:ifconfig -a list routes on both boxes are you sure that ssh is in fact going over the dedicated connection? On Wednesday, March 10, 2004, at 09:09 PM, Mr O wrote: I've added a second NIC to my fileserver and gamebox for dedicated connections. I can SSH into

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-08 Thread Larry Price
there is a milter to call spamassassin On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 07:44 AM, Bob Crandell wrote: It's amazing how great minds think alike. This is exactly what I'm trying to do. What I'm not sure of is the how to part. How to have this intermediate box filter mail without having to create

Re: [eug-lug]clearing out old gnomes

2004-03-08 Thread Larry Price
you might want to check out GARNOME http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/garnome/ It's a set of build scripts used by (among others ) the gnome UI usability people the lnx-bbc people are quite fond of it. I've had my own adventures with gnome lately which showed up some limitations of the ports system

[eug-lug]beagle.j procmail recipe

2004-03-03 Thread Larry Price
#bagle.j :0 B * SEVMTDMyLmRsbABz***aGx3YXBpLmRsbAB1 /dev/null remove the *** in the middle of the string -- Metaphors for system administration --- bailing the titanic with paper cups: or polishing the deck chairs thereof steering an iceberg with

Re: [eug-lug]beagle.j procmail recipe

2004-03-03 Thread Larry Price
PM, Rob Hudson wrote: What's bagle.j? On 20040303.1252, Larry Price said ... #bagle.j :0 B * SEVMTDMyLmRsbABz***aGx3YXBpLmRsbAB1 /dev/null remove the *** in the middle of the string ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi

[eug-lug]Now we're getting somewhere

2004-03-03 Thread Larry Price
Halloween Memo #10 http://www.opensource.org/halloween/halloween10.html the gist: SCO financed by MS through the backdoor to the tune of $100 million over the past year. Would that we had a vigilant antitrust division that would take action on this sort of effort to stifle competitive

Re: [eug-lug]Not even *nix-related, asm is worthwhile

2004-02-18 Thread Larry Price
Anyone want to have a small distro / alternaOS demo at tomorrow's clinic possible: http://menuetos.org http://www.skyos.org http://openbeos.org http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/ (cute bunny logo may finally get this niche OS out of the lab and into the bedrooms of teen

Re: [eug-lug]procmail help

2004-02-15 Thread Larry Price
Hi Rob it should be easy enough to write a conditiional procmail script take a look at the procmailex man page as that's where all the wild examples are. You can tweak the headers that spamassassin emits and even set your own list of adjectives to describe a message you could have an

Re: [eug-lug]Navigator install error

2004-02-08 Thread Larry Price
Yech, why don't you just use firebird and tell it what to set the User-Agent string to. Mozilla and Konqueror will let you masquerade from a menu item. And while you're at it, tell us what bank so we may avoid it. It's 2004; anyone still telling you what browser to use has very clearly NOT

Re: [eug-lug]stop drooling

2004-02-07 Thread Larry Price
I use bird names for my own boxes (heron, redwing, sandpiper) at work we have the office machines which are all named after gods and the service hosts which are kind of a mixed bag (characters from the simpsons, grateful dead, movies, linguists, and assassins) I actually think it's useful to name

Re: [eug-lug]dns gizmo

2004-02-07 Thread Larry Price
or you could use the commands module s = commands.getoutput('nmap -O 67.171.238.246') s '\nStarting nmap 3.30 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2004-02-07 19:36 PST\nNote: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -P0\nNmap run completed -- 1 IP address (0

Re: [eug-lug]stop drooling

2004-02-06 Thread Larry Price
so now you'll never have to leave the house On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 11:05 PM, Mr O wrote: http://home.comcast.net/~notanatheist101/images/genpdp.jpg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online.

[eug-lug]Dell's Linux Blog

2004-02-06 Thread Larry Price
http://linux.dell.com/blog seems to be focused mostly on data center apps and (oddly enough) getting dell hardware drivers up to speed... it's a good sign, and they definitely seem to get it -- Metaphors for system administration --- bailing the

[eug-lug] tracking down a spammer is usually an effort without a payoff.

2004-02-05 Thread Larry Price
I know I've tried it many times. On Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 10:08 PM, T. Joseph Carter wrote: While all of this is simple and obvious, I'm surprised that Chris actually bothered to mail all of the homework. He has friends at ev1 and *ahem* someone here at UO has blocked apparently the

Re: [eug-lug]euglug.org ranked # 40 in Google for linux training window

2004-02-05 Thread Larry Price
nyal wrote: It's nice to know she won't be stealing andy of EUGLUG's sales..What is she trying to steal? Nyal googlejuice most likely; various webmaster accounts I'm associated with get three or four of the reciprocal link offers per day. some of them are attempting to get a particular site

[eug-lug]weird tcp issue

2004-02-05 Thread Larry Price
so I discovered that something somewhat strange is going on with ssh on my laptop here's a sanitised packet trace. 21:14:29.395457 192.168.0.191.52903 randomhost.communitycolo.net.ssh: . [bad \ tcp cksum d0cc!] 96:96(0) ack 5121 win 33304 nop,nop,timestamp 4180891041 9555\ 9903 (DF) [tos

Re: [eug-lug]Naive BSD question

2004-02-02 Thread Larry Price
bsd's all use the UFS filesystem derived from 4.2 BSD You can mount ext2 from FreeBSD and you can mount UFS filesystems from BSD obstacles to cooperation are less daunting than you might think. read the man pages for mount, newfs and fsck to get the gory details. On Monday, February 2, 2004, at

[eug-lug]Portmasters available

2004-02-02 Thread Larry Price
Since we've closed out our charnelton place Machine Room we have some equipment we're trying to move. five Lucent PM-3 portmasters these are very handy if you need to provide direct dial-in services; it might be possible to repurpose them to work as an ISDN endpoint ; or if you have a loose T-1

[eug-lug]snigger

2004-01-31 Thread Larry Price
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/01/30/ wwwscocom_is_a_weapon_of_mass_destruction.html only 6? -- Metaphors for system administration --- bailing the titanic with paper cups: or polishing the deck chairs thereof steering an iceberg

Re: [eug-lug]Re: EUGLUG FreeBSD users?

2004-01-31 Thread Larry Price
As far as using FreeBSD on the desktop, I've been doing so for the past year on that orange box, using the GNOME/Metacity desktop that's one of the options during the install. (Metacity is billed as the window manager for the adult in you) upgrading is easy, and if you do it regularly it's not

[eug-lug]some novarg strings to make life easier for mail admins

2004-01-29 Thread Larry Price
Here's some strings for your procmailrc (or amavis setup) there are two variants between them they've been hitting our mailhost at about ten per minute remove the *** in the middle and use your favorite mailfilter to scan for these in base64 encoded attachments

[eug-lug]un-SCO-ization

2004-01-29 Thread Larry Price
You could burn a spindle of Linux CD's; we are running short of discs to hand out to the interested. and we can't expect kBob to burn all the CD's Knoppix is always useful, but having a little variety is also good. I heard some rumour of a live filesystem OpenBSD iso; anyone got a url??? On

[eug-lug]SCO, DMCA, PATRIOT (cue the black helicopters)

2004-01-22 Thread Larry Price
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/01/21/ 2311249.shtml?tid=103tid=117tid=187tid=88tid=99 reading some of the /. commentary on the SCO letter to legislators made me realise something. Sun, Microsoft and SCO are not the only people who would like to see Linux and pretty much all of the Open

[eug-lug]Windows Services for UNIX -- anyone tried this

2004-01-21 Thread Larry Price
it looks as though MS is at least making some effort in the direction of providing a reasonably sane programming environment. any one on this list tried this puppy out yet? -- Metaphors for system administration --- bailing the titanic with paper

Re: [eug-lug]Windows Services for UNIX -- anyone tried this

2004-01-21 Thread Larry Price
You'll notice that I didn't offer to volunteer for the experiment... On Wednesday, January 21, 2004, at 11:55 AM, Bob Miller wrote: Larry Price wrote: it looks as though MS is at least making some effort in the direction of providing a reasonably sane programming environment. any one

Re: [eug-lug]SAO: TBP, Date Clarification, Thursday 1/15 (fwd)

2004-01-14 Thread Larry Price
Given that a. they dropped the $5 gate fee, b. it's two blocks from efn c. it's early my cunning plan is to go to the SAO and chat and maybe eat some pizza. and then return to efn around 7pm to work on stuff On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 06:35 PM, Horst wrote: Sorry if I am duplicating,

Re: [eug-lug]Combo Message - Comcast DNS and Brewpub/EUGLUG Meeting

2004-01-14 Thread Larry Price
Yep it sounds like most of those who usually go to the clinic will be attending the SAOTBP first See you there. On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 11:51 AM, Jason wrote: Hey folks FWIW, I've had a 24. net IP w/ Comcast since I got to Eugene in Aug of 03. I had a 12. IP when I first got

Re: [eug-lug]JavaScript book

2004-01-13 Thread Larry Price
The O'Reilly books are pretty good, there's one called Building Javascript Applications that actually gets into building complex xalculators and such But the Javascript Pocket Reference is the one that gets visited most On Monday, January 12, 2004, at 06:40 PM, Tim Howe wrote: Is there a

Re: [eug-lug]any mandrake users?

2004-01-13 Thread Larry Price
did you try running /sbin/ldconfig also if that fails and there is no libc.so.6 but there is a libc.so you can symlink libc.so.6 to libc.so ln -s libc.so.6 libc.so On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 02:15 PM, Jordi Humphreys wrote: Hey folks, Any mandrake users out there? Got a fellow

Re: [eug-lug]Test eom

2004-01-06 Thread Larry Price
The system works ;-) Neither snow nor rain nor gloom of night can stop our intrepid mailman Although the occasional malformed email will catch in it's queues. ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [eug-lug]Microsoft spam...

2004-01-06 Thread Larry Price
I rather doubt it On Tuesday, January 6, 2004, at 10:20 AM, Linux Rocks ! wrote: So, I just got some spam from what apears to be microsoft. To the best of my knowlege, ive never given them any of my email addy's, however the address the spiced ham was sent to is the one I use for my linux

Re: [eug-lug]superformat /dev/fd0

2004-01-04 Thread Larry Price
You have to unmount it first. Formatting a disk volume while something else is using it is a Bad Thing (tm) umount /dev/fd0 You may need to kill/suspend any automount daemon if you have one running. On Sunday, January 4, 2004, at 03:02 AM, nyal wrote: Greetings all, Formatting a floppy

Re: [eug-lug]PDA not working

2004-01-04 Thread Larry Price
are you trying to mount a drive/mass storage device over USB? things to try: mount -a will show mounted volumes ls -l /dev/sda* will tell you if you are actually attempting to mount the correct device. On Sunday, January 4, 2004, at 09:37 AM, Dirk Ouellette wrote: Are these logs telling

Re: [eug-lug]I'm back!

2004-01-03 Thread Larry Price
Aha... On Saturday, January 3, 2004, at 12:23 AM, Bob Miller wrote: Anyway, all systems are operational again. When we got to town this evening, we bought a chainsaw. Next time, we'll be prepared. You do realize that you are now officially an Oregonian. -- You are the eventuality of an

Re: [eug-lug]I'm back!

2004-01-03 Thread Larry Price
I think it's having used a chainsaw to overcome a weather related event ;-) And yes Anne definitely needs a chainsaw of her own, how else is she supposed to keep you in line? On Saturday, January 3, 2004, at 12:45 AM, Bob Miller wrote: Larry Price wrote: Anyway, all systems are operational

Re: [eug-lug]New year's resolution...

2004-01-01 Thread Larry Price
and mine will be .5-meter, from LEO On Thursday, January 1, 2004, at 07:32 AM, T. Joseph Carter wrote: I was thinking hard about new years resolutions this week and have settled on one. My new year's resolution is 1680x1050. ___ EuG-LUG mailing

[eug-lug]Thursday Clinic reminder

2003-12-31 Thread Larry Price
There will be a EUGLUG clinic thursday starting at 4 pm at EFN intergalactic headquarters 43 W. Broadway. Some of us will be working on setting up the HP servers (OS Install and RAID building) but there will be plenty of time to show off newly aquired gadgets, and chat about programming and

[eug-lug]Zero Wiping, partition table resurrection

2003-12-29 Thread Larry Price
This is kind of a borderline question; A disk was intentionally zero'd out using dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda however the DOS fdisk utility couldn't rebuild the partition table afterwards. Is it possible that the rather radical data-ectomy performed might have damaged the low-level formatting

[eug-lug]Clinical Update -- No Meeting Christmas Day

2003-12-23 Thread Larry Price
As mentioned there will NOT be a EUGLUG Clinic on December 24th as the expectation is that you will all be home programming your little hearts out and trying to ignore the steaming heaps of tempting food and holiday cheer On New Year's day (January 1 2004) there will be a clinic, and it will

Re: [eug-lug]SCons / python question

2003-12-20 Thread Larry Price
The python interpreter tries to generate .pyc and .pyo files whenever a program is run to get it all taken care of you should cd into the SCons installation directory and run the command python setup.py install as a user that has privileges to write to the installation directories, this will

Re: [eug-lug] [msurkan@windows.microsoft.com: RE: Fwd: posting to Linux mail list]

2003-12-19 Thread Larry Price
On Friday, December 19, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Ben Barrett wrote: I disagree. I think this is a fabulous move on their part, and even though it makes me feel uncomfortable (in our usual linux zealousness) although I am surprised it is taking them this long to catch on... Hey at least they're

Re: [eug-lug]Servers and endtables

2003-12-18 Thread Larry Price
Yes, we'll be working on them at least through january On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 12:17 PM, Jason wrote: Larry wrote: So, if you've always wanted the challlenge of wrestling with SCSI disk arrays, and getting HP netservers to boot both CPU's; setting up Samba etc. just show up on

[eug-lug]Spam Law

2003-12-18 Thread Larry Price
Ok, the first thing you need to understand is that there was a fifteen minute interview that got condensed down to 15 seconds of a 30 second story. And television is not a medium noted for deep exposition of complex topics. I did take the time to actually read the text of the law before the

[eug-lug]clinic for thursday won't start till 7PM

2003-12-16 Thread Larry Price
Thursday night's clinic will be happening; but because of a scheduled meeting the doors will not open until 7:00 at night (19:00 PST) so if you show up early... you can stand around on broadway leeching off the wireless... -- You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest

[eug-lug]Inappropriate technology

2003-12-16 Thread Larry Price
OK, I think this takes the prize for the weirdest combination of services needed to get to one's inbox http://norman.walsh.name/2003/11/16/ppp the short version laptop-vonage(voip phone)-ISP's access server Now working at EFN I've had occasion to hear about things like treesitters doing

Re: [eug-lug]Those HP Servers

2003-12-12 Thread Larry Price
On Friday, December 12, 2003, at 03:30 PM, Bob Miller wrote: As you know if you were at EUGLUG's clinic last night, we have four monstrous HP servers that the City of Eugene recently donated. The biggest of them has dual 200 MHz Pentiums, 512 MB of RAM, a hardware RAID of 12 drives totaling 78

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M from this LIST!!!! See headers in message

2003-12-11 Thread Larry Price
If you'll notice that your address is in the cc; for each of the messages you quote. You should take a moment to review your spam-filter settings visit https://webmail.efn.org/spamassassin On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 05:48 PM, Harald Sundt wrote: I hate to be cranky, but, guys

Re: [eug-lug] I am getting SP***M - I apologize,...

2003-12-11 Thread Larry Price
because it can be overwhelmed, if all three spamassassin boxes are chugging away and aren't returning an answer within 10sec procmail will just assume spamd is unavailable and default to delivering the mail. I'd like to try something like SPF http://spf.pobox.com because SA, while surprisingly

Re: [eug-lug]Compromised? Intruder??

2003-12-10 Thread Larry Price
what does netstat -an show you? it looks like blackjack may be a protocol name look in /etc/services or /etc/inetd.conf to see if you have a blackjack server running (your output shows your machine talking to itself and not having sent or received anything) On Wednesday, December 10, 2003,

Re: [eug-lug]Miserable Failure

2003-12-10 Thread Larry Price
On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 02:40 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Those words to not appear on the page nor in the source. Google says they cannot change their database records and ranking system. This is not cool. I'm glad that nutch.org is well under development. It's the result of a

[eug-lug]Servers and endtables

2003-12-09 Thread Larry Price
So, i was looking for projects for eug-lug and mentioned building office file servers for non-profits and lo and behold the city is passing on some of their old fileservers and they landed on me. So, if you've always wanted the challlenge of wrestling with SCSI disk arrays, and getting HP

[eug-lug]Useful resource for newbies and non-technical people

2003-12-09 Thread Larry Price
http://microsoft.toddverbeek.com/ Just say NO goes into detail about why and has a fairly agnostic approach to recommending alternative products... -- You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony

Re: [eug-lug]Servers and endtables

2003-12-09 Thread Larry Price
. (got work to do y'know) On Tuesday, December 9, 2003, at 10:22 PM, Jason Dommasch wrote: What hardware architecture are the machines? Are they Intel compatible (PC)? At 11:17 AM 12/9/03, Larry Price wrote: So, i was looking for projects for eug-lug and mentioned building office file servers

Re: [eug-lug]The KNOPPIX spindle

2003-12-08 Thread Larry Price
We're out right now, I can burn a few, but havinng a stash on hand is a good thing, since I can then help people get started. On Monday, December 8, 2003, at 04:57 PM, Bob Miller wrote: How many KNOPPIX CDs do we have on the spindle, Larry? Is it time to burn some more? -- Bob Miller

[eug-lug]Clinic Happenings

2003-12-03 Thread Larry Price
The usual thursday night clinic is going to be enlivened with a couple of activities tomorrow night. a. OPN is letting us borrow a computer to set up as an intranet server for a nonprofit basically it's a box on which we will be installing and configuring some basic productivity and

Re: [eug-lug]Rappel pour les abonnements aux listes sur udius.com

2003-12-01 Thread Larry Price
it's the french version of the the mailman list membership reminder I'm not sure why eug-lug would have been subscribed to it... Having had a look at the site http://www.i3tv.com/ which is one of those linked from udius.com; I would guess that this is produced by an incompetent french spammer.

[eug-lug]make -d s foo

2003-12-01 Thread Larry Price
Does anyone know of a good resource to help decode the intricacies of make (BSD make in this case although gmake _should_ be bug compatible) specifically the default suffix and filename expansion rules which do not seem to be listed in the man page . so far I've found Fowler's original paper,

[eug-lug]truly useful embedded linux

2003-11-30 Thread Larry Price
http://bigmouth.here-n-there.com/ I can see it now, a hacked billy-bass as a front end for the NIDS 'sploit 'sploit; someones hacking the webserver!! -- You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of

Re: [eug-lug]overclocked problem?

2003-11-29 Thread Larry Price
On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 08:25 PM, Mr O wrote: Anyone else overclock at all? What kind of problems? My machine is super stable at 3495Mhz but pushing it over that causes programs to just die whenever they want. Let me get this straight, you're talking a stock 2.4Ghz CPU and you are

Re: [eug-lug]No clinic this week (Buy Nothing Day)

2003-11-26 Thread Larry Price
Depends, are you a hippie or a hipster? On Wednesday, November 26, 2003, at 10:54 AM, Bob Miller wrote: http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/bnd/ Speaking of Buy Nothing Day, anyone have any idea where/who/how BND is being celebrated in Eugene? Hippies celebrate buy nothing day by going to

[eug-lug]Debian security incident.

2003-11-21 Thread Larry Price
From the DSA In particular the following machines have been affected: . master (Bug Tracking System) . murphy (mailing lists) . gluck (web, cvs) . klecker (security, non-us, web search, www-master) Some of these services are currently not available as the machines undergo close

Re: [eug-lug]cOURSE REQS FOR mATH 60

2003-11-20 Thread Larry Price
There are a number of high quality equation editors available for linux/unix including one that comes as a part of Mozilla But if the course requirements say MS Word, then that's what you are stuck with. On Thursday, November 20, 2003, at 08:06 PM, Dirk Ouellette wrote: I'm planning to take

[eug-lug]cameras, gphoto2 and USB (standards and lack thereof)

2003-11-18 Thread Larry Price
I just recently aquired a digital camera, after doing a lot of homework and making sure that I had all that I needed to make it work correctly. It's a CASIO EX-s2 and it mounts as a USB Mass storage device (yes I can keep regular files on the camera) It took about 5 minutes to get it configured

Re: [eug-lug]sco: novell-suse breaks sco contract

2003-11-18 Thread Larry Price
On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, at 05:01 PM, Bob Miller wrote: Christopher Maujean wrote: Just to save myself some time and brainpower trying to figure out his problem, I'll commit to 20$/mo for a ProzacForDarlMcBride funding drive. anyone else? Today is Take Darl To Lunch day. At 5:00 PST

Re: [eug-lug]EFN mail questions...

2003-11-16 Thread Larry Price
actually on our system it's the recipe is :0 H * ^X-Spam-Status: [Yy][Ee][Ss] /dev/null although I would recommend keeping spam around for a week or so; spamassassin works about as well as swatting mosquitoes with an axe. On Sunday, November 16, 2003, at 01:33 PM, T. Joseph Carter wrote: On

[eug-lug]ecommerce experiences sought

2003-11-14 Thread Larry Price
Has anybody on this list had to deal with authorize.net from a unix environment? Comments, experiences? Are there any payment authorization gateways that are in the set of (not crewed by vampires not Microsoft centric) ? We've been using trustcommerce.com and while as a programmer, I found their

Re: [eug-lug] SCO lawsuit-what is LIKELY affect on Linux?

2003-11-14 Thread Larry Price
Actually that is not the case, Copyright law places some pretty clear restrictions on what can and cannot happen in this case. There are some uninformed people who will tell you that the GPL is up for litigation, if SCO tries to take that tack, it will be an uphill battle for them, and even

Re: [eug-lug] SCO lawsuit-what is LIKELY affect on Linux?

2003-11-14 Thread Larry Price
On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 10:16 PM, Bob Miller wrote: As a challenge to open source, I am sanguine that we'll come through this thing stronger than ever. (We come through *everything* stronger than ever.) that which does not # kill -9 us can only make us # nice -10

Re: [eug-lug]mail over ssh

2003-11-12 Thread Larry Price
man ssh_config in $HOME/.ssh/config KeepAlive yes On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 03:43 PM, Rob Hudson wrote: On 20031112.1352, Patrick R. Wade said ... What are you using for the SSH client? You may be able to set it to send keepalives. I had a problem like you describe telecommuting

[eug-lug]SCOutrage o' the day

2003-11-12 Thread Larry Price
http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5106450.html?tag=nefd_top me too subpoena -- You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. -The Architect Microsoft has resolved this issue.

Re: [eug-lug]Politically motivated spam filtering at EFN?

2003-11-11 Thread Larry Price
On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 08:54 AM, Ben Barrett wrote: The initial point I tried to make in this thread, is that people have opted into how they use SpamAssasin, right? I'm not sure of the EFN setup, so need some clarification. So, everyone gets it, but everyone can have a personal

Re: [eug-lug]Politically Motivated Spam Filtering (PMSF) at EFN?

2003-11-11 Thread Larry Price
Unfortunately not everyone is as diligent as ed, someone has to at least glance at every message going through the spam queue to make sure it's not someone asking for support or berating us for the fact that SA missed one and was overenthusiastic about another. We do keep a big directory of

[eug-lug]GNU-Darwin ISOs available at this weeks clinic

2003-11-11 Thread Larry Price
I just started the download. x86 is the only ISO available at this time. -- You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. -The Architect Microsoft has resolved this issue.

Re: [eug-lug]Disk space

2003-11-10 Thread Larry Price
I usually use du and a shell expansion for instance the following command will grind away and give you a human readable summary of all the directories in /var cd /var; du -sh `ls` the backticks around ls will cause the command to be replaced by it's output. On Sunday, November 9, 2003, at

Re: [eug-lug]planet CCRMA

2003-11-10 Thread Larry Price
I've used a few of the packages mentioned, Audacity and snd but most of the kernel bits are for if you are wanting to do things like make your workstation be the synthesizer for a midi device.(aka, real time preemptive interrupts) Neat project, I know someone who might be into trying it out,

[eug-lug]Spam, filtering, and censorship

2003-11-10 Thread Larry Price
On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 03:02 PM, Marc Baber wrote: Please forgive me for singling you (Larry) out as the expert on the subject of [EMAIL PROTECTED], but you've been very helpful on the topic more than once in the past and I suspect you're our best hope of  finding answers to a

Re: [eug-lug]Politically motivated spam filtering at EFN?

2003-11-10 Thread Larry Price
Actually there is a plain old spamassassin setup lurking in there (no bayesian) but if someone were to send messages spammy enough to trip this, they would be held for moderation. You can demonstrate this easily enough by using Hotmail to send the list an ecard with 'imaginative' language. On

[eug-lug]Web Servers of the presidential candidates

2003-11-07 Thread Larry Price
Full on political fun from Linux Journal http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7239mode=threadorder=0 About what you'd expect, the comment about uptimes is just low ;-) -- The Internet is falling --C. Little 2003 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [eug-lug]Breaking News for Nzone Members: Novell Acquires SUSE LINUX

2003-11-04 Thread Larry Price
This is IBM operating through a proxy; SUSE already supports most of IBM's server line, IBM and Novell are already fairly close. The only surprising thing is that IBM isn't buying Novell up outright... On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 08:16 AM, jgw wrote: Let's just hope to hell that this goes

Re: [eug-lug]ISO audio conversion tool

2003-10-28 Thread Larry Price
Hmm, I went looking for one a while back and kept getting bogged down in real.com's atrocious website. and they are using the sco approach to making friends http://www.flux.org/pipermail/linux/2002-November/011103.html I'm thinking your best bet may be to aim for a pipeline of the format .ram -

Re: [eug-lug]ISO audio conversion tool

2003-10-28 Thread Larry Price
On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 09:15 AM, Ken Barber wrote: On Monday 27 October 2003 23:11, Larry Price wrote: This is a company that wants to own your eyes and ears, don't give them any help. Are you aware that Real.com has had a change of heart? Did you miss their announcement at Linuxworld

Re: [eug-lug] Cory's silliness

2003-10-28 Thread Larry Price
On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 03:17 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Now imagine such an interference pattern being spread around the internet to produce or store a vast quantitiy of information. With a system that swarming could be the pre-pre-precursor to, a little piece of that massive amount of

Re: [eug-lug]cross posting

2003-10-24 Thread Larry Price
On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 10:38 AM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: For the initiators of these threads, note it is considered bad netiquette to cross post. It's a relatively minor breach, and is in fact quite helpful in making new connections, about on a par with shouting from one group to another

[eug-lug]Hmmmm?

2003-10-22 Thread Larry Price
I'm going to do something this list has rarely seen: Herewith a block quote from a story about Microsoft In response to a question about whether Microsoft plans a version of Office for the Linux operating system, Ballmer said no, but never say never. But we have no current plans and don't see

[eug-lug]linux.net plays the hotmail card.

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Price
So if you have any need for yet another email address, some company called linare.com is launching a free (ad-supported) email service @linux.net Linare corporation actually looks pretty interesting as they are launching a $199 linux based pc 1.8ghz 128MB They are based in Redmond... WA Anyone

[eug-lug]snmp remote (was KDE tip of the day)

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Price
On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 11:37 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: I'd like to see real configuration of the kernel from the KDE control center (or really, somewhere else), as in configuration of the live kernel: ip_forward, rp_filter, sysctl, etc. Aren't there already MIB browsers that do this?

Re: [eug-lug]snmp remote (was KDE tip of the day)

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Price
On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 12:36 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 12:33:19AM -0700, Larry Price wrote: On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 11:37 PM, Cory Petkovsek wrote: I'd like to see real configuration of the kernel from the KDE control center (or really, somewhere else

Re: [eug-lug]javascript redhat 9

2003-10-12 Thread Larry Price
I think Dirk is really asking about playing Real Audio Media under Red Hat. A quick poke at RealOne's website causes me to to think that anything coming out of that company should be avoided like the plague This Page ought to help you if you must http://forms.real.com/real/player/unix/unix.html

Re: [eug-lug].PHP FILES

2003-10-12 Thread Larry Price
On Sunday, October 12, 2003, at 10:38 PM, Dirk Ouellette wrote: Can .php files be played in linux? If so, how? Thanks, Dirk You need to have mod_php installed for your webserver. I seem to remember someone raving about a command-line PHP interpreter a while back, but you are usually going to

[eug-lug]I could use some help

2003-10-09 Thread Larry Price
I promised someone a Knoppix for tonight's clinic unfortunately press of events (and running out of disc space on the target partition ) means that I am not going to have one ready by tonight if you have lots'o'bandwidth + time + energy please help me out by snarfing

Re: [eug-lug]where can I learn more about wait channel - wchan?

2003-10-07 Thread Larry Price
in the output of ps; wchan is the address of the event flag on which the process is waiting from the OS X man page: (freebsd is same) wchan The event (an address in the system) on which a process waits. When printed numerically, the initial part of the address is

Re: [eug-lug]Anyone Investigated NetZero?

2003-10-07 Thread Larry Price
I'm willing to bet that netzero is talking about something like this http://www.isp-planet.com/equipment/cflow_intro.html it's called a predictive caching server and works with a (usally windows only) client-side program to pre-fetch items that you are going to download. there is also this

Re: [eug-lug] mailing list issues

2003-09-24 Thread Larry Price
back in less than 10 minutes, IIRC, but this took ~ 14 hrs, 20 minutes to be received by the list server... ciao BB On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:07:06 -0700 Ben Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Thanks Larry | On Fri, 2 Jan 1970 10:38:48 -0800 | Larry Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... | | ps. mailing

Re: [eug-lug]Red Hat Group in the Celebration Parade.

2003-09-23 Thread Larry Price
OOooh, if we had a bootable cd distro it should have the digital map of oregon and some open source software to view it with ;-) ps. mailing list should be working again. On Tuesday, September 23, 2003, at 06:14 PM, Ben Barrett wrote: And, what events are coming up, which we'll want to be

Re: [eug-lug]SSH Exploit

2003-09-16 Thread Larry Price
I'm in the middle of patching some of our systems and from reading the security advisory it looks like it's a DOS vuln, but NOT a remote root quoting FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-03:12.openssh When a packet is received that is larger than the space remaining in the currently allocated

[eug-lug]The lighter side of Linux

2003-09-04 Thread Larry Price
OK, this is strictly for fun, and contains absolutely no seriousness. http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/linux/fun/ index.html?c=eservern=linuxfun_callout_servershomet=advertise# Specially liked Passion and Meditation tee-hee -- The Internet is falling --C. Little 2003

Re: [eug-lug] first draft of a new software license. interested intaking a look?

2003-08-27 Thread Larry Price
This is the GNU license. With a less clear preamble. Why the wheel reinvent? Other people have invested a lot of time and energy solving this problem. Take advantage of the work they have done. http://www.opensource.org/licenses/ On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 09:48 AM, justin bengtson

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