Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-24 Thread Christian Schmitt
Hi Thorsten, Renk Thorsten wrote: Every fgdata contributor who creates complicated xml/shader files should be able to understand basic git workflow as well... I'm not sure if you really mean every contributor, or every contributor with commit rights to FGData. In the second case I'd agree

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-24 Thread Renk Thorsten
So you are calling for git monkeys that take care of the tedious process of getting changes into the tree? If it is as critical to do this right as you say, everyone might be better off if only people who know what they're doing handle commits and every other commit goes through them,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Bertrand Coconnier
2012/9/23 Alan Teeder ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk: The reason I quoted 10 Gb is that my fgdate/.git/objects directory is currently 8.9Gb, and I assumed that is what gets downloaded during a clone. I bow to your wisdom if you say that it is only 4.9Gb. I have the same size than Martin. For that I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Geoff McLane
On Sat, 2012-09-22 at 19:44 +, Martin Spott wrote: Alan Teeder wrote: New flightgear git users are faced with an initial download of about 10gb just to get started. Currently the fgdata GIT repo has approx. 4.9 GByte, Martin. Hi Martin, Alan, Bertrand, et al... I guess we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Alan Teeder
-Original Message- From: Bertrand Coconnier Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:30 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble I have the same size than Martin. For that I execute on a regular basis the following commands git repack git gc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Teeder wrote: Twice I left it running overnight, but it failed both times after several hours during the fgdata clone. Which server do you clone from ? If you don't already do so, then you should consider fetching the initial clone from mapserver and to change the remote origin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Bertrand Coconnier wrote: git repack git gc git prune Same here, I'm running a similar set as hooks on the mapserver GIT mirror, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Alan Teeder
-Original Message- From: Martin Spott Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:42 AM Newsgroups: list.flightgear-devel To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble Alan Teeder wrote: Twice I left it running overnight, but it failed both times

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Stefan Seifert
On Sunday 23 September 2012 10:19:52 Alan Teeder wrote: The reason I quoted 10 Gb is that my fgdate/.git/objects directory is currently 8.9Gb, and I assumed that is what gets downloaded during a clone. I bow to your wisdom if you say that it is only 4.9Gb. Since really only the initial clone

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Stefan Seifert wrote: Since really only the initial clone is a problem, we could just offer a weekly updated tar ball of a bare clone for download. This download would just be ~ 5 GiB and would be resumable. [...] Any thoughts? Good idea. We actually had this for a while, but I don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin wrote: Alan Teeder wrote: Twice I left it running overnight, but it failed both times after several hours during the fgdata clone. Which server do you clone from ? If you don't already do so, then you should consider fetching the initial clone from mapserver and to change the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Teeder wrote: Brisa script has this line git clone git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git fgdata This is also the default to which all new users are most likely to come across.. fun Q) We need to use smaller bolts for the railway bridge ! Every time I try to mount a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Scott
On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 13:33 +, Martin Spott wrote: Alan Teeder wrote: Brisa script has this line git clone git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git fgdata This is also the default to which all new users are most likely to come across.. fun Q) We need to use smaller

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Alan Teeder
Martin Your suggestion of just having the Cessna is a base package version of fgdata is just what is required. I would go further and extend it to including all those aircraft which are in the regular release versions. These particular aircraft are on the whole well maintained and showcase the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi all, there is a WIKI page for this topic: http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_Git:_splitting_fgdata Many points have been discussed over and over some time ago. If there is something new that has developed over time, please add it to the wiki page before it gets lost on the mailing list.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Teeder wrote: Sorting out the aircraft is then a completely separate problem, and several solutions to this have already been proposed. As we all remember one was actually implemented last year, but for various reasons not made fully public , was promptly abandoned. You might try

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Alan Teeder
-Original Message- From: Torsten Dreyer Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:36 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble Hi all, there is a WIKI page for this topic: http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_Git:_splitting_fgdata Many points

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Peter Morgan
I got a really really slow connection Got around the git problem by using a script on a dedicated to pull from git, and push to a subversion, which runs twice a day I then checkout from subversion read only of course, it works a treat and get all updates very quickly.. However this approach

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Geoff McLane
On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 17:43 +0100, Peter Morgan wrote: I got a really really slow connection Got around the git problem by using a script on a dedicated to pull from git, and push to a subversion, which runs twice a day I then checkout from subversion read only of course, it works a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Peter Morgan
Hi Pete, What about the idea I thought you were working on of zipping each aircraft - presumably regularly updated as more git changes happen - and having like the FGx GUI downloading and installing these at the users choice/request? Thus an initial install of fgdata would only have a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-22 Thread Tim Moore
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:51 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 Sep 2012, at 13:03, Anders Gidenstam wrote: The master branch of fgdata has become messed up. A number of commits ... It has happened again, fgdata history is messed up. It looks as if my last commits (6d46fe7, f722671)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-22 Thread Alan Teeder
-devel] fgdata trouble On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 11:51 PM, ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 Sep 2012, at 13:03, Anders Gidenstam wrote: The master branch of fgdata has become messed up. A number of commits ... It has happened again, fgdata history is messed up. It looks as if my last commits

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-22 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Teeder wrote: New flightgear git users are faced with an initial download of about 10gb just to get started. Currently the fgdata GIT repo has approx. 4.9 GByte, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-22 Thread Christian Schmitt
Thanks Thorsten for your clear words, yes, it sucks to see people messing up the history, merging local branches and then pushing them to gitorious. I personally see another problem in the way changes that are merged appear in the history: The merge date is there, but the commits associated to