Re: [Flightgear-devel] The next FlightGear release (summer 2012)

2012-06-03 Thread ys
Hi Torsten What are the plans now for apt.dat.gz and nav.dat.gz ? Will this prehistorical data files still be shipped with flightgear base package 2.8.0 ? As far as I understand flightgear is ready to read the newer formats and also the airport scenery tools are ready to use the newer formats.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The next FlightGear release (summer 2012)

2012-06-07 Thread ys
As I mentioned some weeks ago I think we should leave path of creating world scenery in one task. I made a proposal how to create world scenery in chunks all day and nights with jenkins on different machines for different regions. The sources for this creation process can remain on one master,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The next FlightGear release (summer 2012)

2012-06-07 Thread ys
a note. You can get access to this jenkins immediately, I would also help to install all tools and setup the jobs to be done ;-) Cheers, Yves Am 07.06.2012 um 17:35 schrieb ys flightg...@sablonier.ch: As I mentioned some weeks ago I think we should leave path of creating world scenery

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Hawaii regional textures merge request

2012-06-08 Thread ys
Hi Thorsten Right, it doesn't look like it is worth to have a discussion about this and it was only me pointing this out. At the end I prefer to have your nice work in the repo and it's really not up to me to block anything. I'm just interested in this discussion and I remembered a lot of post

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FGCom - cmake

2012-07-11 Thread ys
Hi Martin Did you pull, compile and test, any real feedback? Cheers, Yves Ps. We are aware of the next monster, thanks. Fgcom 1.2ff is working and still a nice piece. I guess you will find a lot of latest development from Holger Wirtz and Charles Ingels at sourceforge. I don't know if Holger

Re: [Flightgear-devel] DDS usage in effects files

2012-07-21 Thread ys
Am 21.07.2012 um 11:56 schrieb Harald Johnsen hjohn...@evc.net: Mathias Fröhlich a écrit : ... But that means we could at the point where the warning happens compute the mipmap levels on the cpu in the loader thread. osg::gluScaleImage could be used to do this I think (or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Switching from PUI to osgWidget

2012-07-24 Thread ys
Hi Thomas, Hi James This looks promising in a technical/coding perspective of having this and that common GUI feature available also for flightgear. But for me personally one of the big problems of the FlightGear GUI is that it is inside the only and one main window. There is no possibility to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Switching from PUI to osgWidget

2012-07-25 Thread ys
Hey Martin, you can get mine and I take (all) yours when FlightGear keeps that all in one window approach for the next ten years. But maybe the width is not that exact, I didn't measure my screen size for this 5 sec. scribble, sorry for that. Just wanted to keep file size small and clipped

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery

2012-08-04 Thread ys
Hi Erik First of all the various custom scenery contributors have to start to communicate with each other and making a list of custom scenery available. This list should contain sources for custom scenery development, so GPL license incompatible scenery (i.e. scenery created with cgiar or osm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery

2012-08-05 Thread ys
Am 05.08.2012 um 19:07 schrieb Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net: Hi YVes, ys wrote: A lot of scenery will come with 850 airport data either, and this is still refused by the core developers [...] Personally I don't like this sort of claims. After reading the above statement

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment Settings dialog

2012-08-11 Thread ys
Can the snowlevel with this also go above 3000 meter ? -Yves Am 11.08.2012 um 19:58 schrieb Gijs de Rooy gijsr...@hotmail.com: Hi Stuart, I've just committed a new dialog - Environment Settings, which is intended to contain environment settings that aren't part of the weather

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Environment Settings dialog

2012-08-11 Thread ys
Hi Gijs Just for my understanding, does this still mean when you start in La Paz and you have no snow in metar the snow-level is set to 3000 meters by default? Or is there no snow at all? -Yves Am 11.08.2012 um 22:39 schrieb Gijs de Rooy gijsr...@hotmail.com: Hi Stuart, That might be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Usability

2012-08-12 Thread ys
Hi James Am 12.08.2012 um 17:48 schrieb James Turner zakal...@mac.com: On 11 Aug 2012, at 22:52, Martin Spott wrote: 3) Scenery. Terrasync is now built into FG, and we have nice UI to configure it in-sim. However, it still requires users to set up a separate directory and configure

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Musings on FG on Linux/Windows

2012-12-03 Thread ys
Hi Curt Maybe these are two types of conferences now. One could be the WIFGH, the Weekly International FlightGear Hangout ;-) Or monthly ? Another option I see now is probably a smaller european conference when I read about this idea at the forums. Maybe spring or summer 2013 is a possible

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata Commit c8a69dffd49a298e01c0e0e1320f4a1d49a0bca4

2012-12-20 Thread ys
Hi Clement Yes it is really sad to see such commit messages. But maybe the PAF team also thinks too concurrently in headers, gpl and copyright notice and file descriptions here. Maybe the PAF team has to take into account that Helijah spent half of his life contributing to flightgear models

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata Commit c8a69dffd49a298e01c0e0e1320f4a1d49a0bca4

2012-12-21 Thread ys
Hi Clement Am 21.12.2012 um 09:40 schrieb Clement de l'Hamaide clem...@hotmail.fr: Hi Yves, Maybe the PAF team has to take into account that Helijah spent half of his life contributing to flightgear models and this needs some personal respect and not only respecting gpl terms.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TrueType font editing

2013-01-12 Thread ys
Hi James I guess there are a lot of SIL or other open source fonts out there which fit fg license and probably also your needs. You can choose one you prefer or which comes close to what you need, monospaced or not, and I can make the ttf for you, when it is not there already. I know this

[Flightgear-devel] CI server

2013-01-20 Thread ys
Hi Sorry for that and I don't want to shout loud about anything (mostly), but after some months ... is it possible to get the images back somehow on the official CI server? I mean, with all respect for whatever console, but I need to note that this server is some kind of a flag for some less

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bucket change

2013-01-20 Thread ys
Hi Mathias Does this also solve the NSZP problem, the south-pole-crossing-runway-problem now? Good news ... A lot of contemporary geodesic software has problems with this, good to hear that flightgear is walking through the last two degrees. I do not ask how this is done, this is far from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CI server

2013-01-21 Thread ys
that work here for http and https. -Yves Am 21.01.2013 um 15:29 schrieb geneb ge...@deltasoft.com: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013, ys wrote: Hi Sorry for that and I don't want to shout loud about anything (mostly), but after some months ... is it possible to get the images back somehow on the official

[Flightgear-devel] Small patch for cocoa 10.5 support

2013-02-03 Thread ys
Hi I know, it's annoying with 10.5, but I realised tonight that an older cocoa pasteboard commit broke flightgear osx cocoa 10.5 support and I kindly ask you to verify the patch below. With this code it is still possible to compile flightgear with target 10.5 and sdk 10.5. I will use this for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Synchronizing nav.dat ?

2013-02-05 Thread ys
Hi Olivier I guess many parts of nav.dat updates are related to updates in apt.dat (i.e. ILS, VOR-DME freqs etc.). For me personally it only makes sense to update to current navaids when apt.dat can be updated too, otherwise I guess the project will get much more reports immediately than you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tooltips / usability

2013-02-09 Thread ys
Hi James Maybe this leads here to extend the current liberation font set to provide some additional glyphs, i.e. key pictures etc. for tutorials or the tooltips bubbles, or some special aviation glyphs? And this for the sans and mono, and to get better readable screen fonts at all. Or is there

[Flightgear-devel] OSX 10.5 compilation

2013-02-09 Thread ys
Hi all While there is absolutely no problem to compile OSG and other deps against osx sdk 10.5 there has been some bits introduced in simgear/flightgear now to not compile against sdk 10.5 anymore. The cocoa code I already mentioned requires only a small directive (sorry about the dyslexia in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSX 10.5 compilation

2013-02-10 Thread ys
James Turner zakal...@mac.com: On 9 Feb 2013, at 20:49, ys flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: But with some small directives I tested today I see that it would be possible to still port fg 2.8 and 2.10 for osx sdk 10.5. I don't want to offend anyone for this = 10.6 decision or the code

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSX 10.5 compilation

2013-02-13 Thread ys
, a new simgear/flightgear build guru bity I don't get. Thanks, Yves Am 12.02.2013 um 15:23 schrieb James Turner zakal...@mac.com: On Feb 11, 2013, at 03:05 PM, ys flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Hi James I guess this forking would be possible with the cocoa and the svn patch, but I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSX 10.5 compilation

2013-02-13 Thread ys
Feb 2013, at 10:05, ys flightg...@sablonier.ch wrote: Are you using a flag on jenkins shell or rb script I couldn't see and I need to take into account? should I try on another machine first ... Or is there some mystic endianess I should take into account for this first generation intel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CMake question simgear include option

2013-02-15 Thread ys
Hi James Thanks, yes, am aware of this kind of separation. But I thought: Why does cmake configuration make it possible to link against an osg include and lib dir for every part, while simgear has only a an option for headers and not the libs ?. And then when you set the simgear include dir,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.10.0: Decision Altitude

2013-02-15 Thread ys
Hi Torsten What does mean no public answer in this list for this decision ? -Yves Am 15.02.2013 um 16:16 schrieb Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de: Hi all, at one point during every ILS approach you reach the decision altitude with two options: continue approach or go around. Being the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSX 10.5 compilation

2013-02-15 Thread ys
schrieb ys flightg...@sablonier.ch: Hi James Thanks a lot for all your replies, gave me some hope ;-) But I guess I'm not able to make FGx possible for mac users with built-in osg/sg/fg the next days, because of this strange sound problem. Ok, this doesn't matter that much, because FGx is only

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSX 10.5 compilation

2013-02-17 Thread ys
Am 16.02.2013 um 00:56 schrieb ys flightg...@sablonier.ch: so I really have no idea what might be going. Hi James Me too. But it is still here. SimGear throws the same issue with all combinations I tried, and now after goinf for 2.10 also with SDK 10.6. Meantime I guess it is more

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSX 10.5 compilation

2013-02-18 Thread ys
on the slave ? Thanks, Yves Am 18.02.2013 um 03:01 schrieb ys flightg...@sablonier.ch: Am 16.02.2013 um 00:56 schrieb ys flightg...@sablonier.ch: so I really have no idea what might be going. Hi James Me too. But it is still here. SimGear throws the same issue with all combinations

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSX 10.5 compilation

2013-02-18 Thread ys
will publish a version with FGx asap. Now I see that the small cocoa change for flightgear making compiling possible for 10.5 has already been merged by James, thanks, the patch for the simgear sdk 10.5 svn problem will follow asap. Thanks, Yves Am 18.02.2013 um 14:41 schrieb ys flightg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSX 10.5 compilation

2013-02-18 Thread ys
Hi Curt I would not recommend to get 10.5 support back with current official jenkins build. AFAIK current mac build for 10.6/7/8 works very well, supporting 10.5 would need heavy changes, or better, downgrading of slaves, and it is definitely not worth to break things this way. I'm free to do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OSX 10.5 compilation

2013-02-19 Thread ys
, but for me personally atlas is still one of the best maps we have, even this is a very old and a bit outdated project). -Yves Am 19.02.2013 um 02:07 schrieb ys flightg...@sablonier.ch: Hi Curt I would not recommend to get 10.5 support back with current official jenkins build. AFAIK current mac