Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 05:28 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Felix Miata did opine thusly: On 2011/05/13 22:35 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: Maybe a stupid question, but have you tried run emerge --sync .bash_history tells me I did this twice prior to your response... and emerge -vauND

[gentoo-user] media center with gentoo

2011-05-14 Thread Coert Waagmeester
Hello all, Building myself a new media center setup. I used to have an old xbox with xbmc. But the CPU is to slow for hi-def video. Now I have a normal PC with keyboard and mouse in its place. Normal Gentoo install. How can I get X to start up without login straight into XBMC? Which

Re: [gentoo-user] media center with gentoo

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 08:42 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Coert Waagmeester did opine thusly: Hello all, Building myself a new media center setup. I used to have an old xbox with xbmc. But the CPU is to slow for hi-def video. Now I have a normal PC with keyboard and mouse in its

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 13 May 2011 07:19:35 -0700 (PDT), BRM wrote: KDE did seem to drop the ball a bit with their management of the transition from KDE3 to KDE4. There's no doubt it could have been a lot better. The problem was that it was based on their prediction that 4.0 would be a dev release while 4.1

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 08:25 (GMT+0200) Alan McKinnon composed: Felix Miata composed: emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =media-libs/libcanberra-0.4[gtk]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - media-libs/libcanberra-0.26 (Change USE:

Re: [gentoo-user] media center with gentoo

2011-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 14 May 2011 08:42:38 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: How can I get X to start up without login straight into XBMC? Which (xdm,kdm,etc) should I use for this? Or should I just start an xsession with xbmc out of some sort of init script? On the XBMC forum I have found this link, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Pre OpenRC update question...

2011-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 13 May 2011 22:47:43 -0400, Andrey Moshbear wrote: Is the bs=2M important?  Should one use the block size of the drive? Speed improvement. If you're doing a backup of a rather large disk, I duggest piping to bzip2 or gzip. Unless the free space is random padding, even the

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 11:38 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Felix Miata did opine thusly: On 2011/05/14 08:25 (GMT+0200) Alan McKinnon composed: Felix Miata composed: emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =media-libs/libcanberra-0.4[gtk]. !!! One of the

[gentoo-user] Two portage questions

2011-05-14 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo. Two questions about Portage whose ansers I haven't found in the fine manuals: 1. Where is it specified what is in system in the same way that world is in the file /var/lib/portage/world? 2. How does emerge know which mutt to build when I do emerge mutt? There are three candidate

Re: [gentoo-user] Two portage questions

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:31 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: Hi, Gentoo. Two questions about Portage whose ansers I haven't found in the fine manuals: 1. Where is it specified what is in system in the same way that world is in the file

Re: [gentoo-user] consolefont do not start after migration to openrc

2011-05-14 Thread Alexander Tiurin
On Tue, 10 May 2011 16:48:15 -0500 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: PH On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Alexander Tiurin PH ar...@fromru.com wrote: PH I tried add consolefont to boot or default runlevel, but PH consolefont is not start PH PH consolefont is in openrc, did you

[gentoo-user] Re: you are stopping a boot service

2011-05-14 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 07:39:03AM +0200, Hartmut Figge wrote: Greetings, i am always booting to a console and switch later to X using startx. Now i have noticed a message appearing after typing the password: i5 login: Password: Last login: Sat May 14 06:58:55 CEST 2011 on

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Mick
On Saturday 14 May 2011 11:21:51 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:38 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Felix Miata did opine thusly: On 2011/05/14 08:25 (GMT+0200) Alan McKinnon composed: Felix Miata composed: Is it telling me I have to change my USE from -gtk to

[gentoo-user] openrc/baselayout and console service messages

2011-05-14 Thread Dale
Howdy, After the recent openrc/baselayout upgrade, I notice something missing. Sometimes after a update I switch to single user then switch back to the default runlevel. I notice when I switch to single user mode, I can see the services stopping like usual. However, when I switch back to

[gentoo-user] Re: you are stopping a boot service

2011-05-14 Thread Hartmut Figge
Nicolas Sebrecht: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 07:39:03AM +0200, Hartmut Figge wrote: Same thing happens after switching from X to a console with e.g. ctrl-altl-F2. Hm? :) You may have a service in the wrong runlevel called boot. Mhm, i do not see how the runlevel 'boot' can be involved by

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 12:52 (GMT+0100) Mick composed: BTW, my 3rd kernel did solve my video on ttys problem, and get me access to my EXT2 partition. :-) Have you read and applied http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml to find out how to configure your card and xorg? Reading section 2.2

Re: [gentoo-user] you are stopping a boot service

2011-05-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 14.05.2011 07:39, schrieb Hartmut Figge: Greetings, i am always booting to a console and switch later to X using startx. Now i have noticed a message appearing after typing the password: i5 login: Password: Last login: Sat May 14 06:58:55 CEST 2011 on tty1 * WARNING: you

[gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone

2011-05-14 Thread Alain DIDIERJEAN
As the subject line says, all variables pertaining to locale are gone (LANG LINGUAS not set, LC_* set to POSIX). In which file are they supposed to be set these days ? -- Alain DIDIERJEAN Puisque ces mystères nous dépassent

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:38:04AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Felix Miata composed: emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy =media-libs/libcanberra-0.4[gtk]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - media-libs/libcanberra-0.26 (Change

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone

2011-05-14 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:41:37PM +0200, Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote: As the subject line says, all variables pertaining to locale are gone (LANG LINGUAS not set, LC_* set to POSIX). In which file are they supposed to be set these days ? /etc/env.d/02locale W -- Willie W. Wong

[gentoo-user] Re: you are stopping a boot service

2011-05-14 Thread Hartmut Figge
Florian Philipp: Am 14.05.2011 07:39, schrieb Hartmut Figge: i am always booting to a console and switch later to X using startx. Now i have noticed a message appearing after typing the password: i5 login: Password: Last login: Sat May 14 06:58:55 CEST 2011 on tty1 * WARNING:

Re: [gentoo-user] Two portage questions

2011-05-14 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Alan. On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:51:14PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 12:31 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: 1. Where is it specified what is in system in the same way that world is in the file /var/lib/portage/world? That is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: you are stopping a boot service

2011-05-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 14.05.2011 16:09, schrieb Hartmut Figge: Florian Philipp: Am 14.05.2011 07:39, schrieb Hartmut Figge: i am always booting to a console and switch later to X using startx. Now i have noticed a message appearing after typing the password: i5 login: Password: Last login: Sat May

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone

2011-05-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 14.05.2011 16:09, schrieb Willie Wong: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:41:37PM +0200, Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote: As the subject line says, all variables pertaining to locale are gone (LANG LINGUAS not set, LC_* set to POSIX). In which file are they supposed to be set these days ?

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 08:30:02AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 05:28 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Felix Miata did opine thusly: Is it telling me I have to change my USE from -gtk to +gtk, or can emerging one of those 8 packages listed satisfy the dep? IOW,

[gentoo-user] Re: media center with gentoo

2011-05-14 Thread James
Coert Waagmeester lgroups at waagmeester.co.za writes: How can I get X to start up without login straight into XBMC? There are a multitude of approaches to this sort of functionality. Searching out keywords, such as kiosk, gentoo and other relevant strings will yield some interesting reading

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 10:37 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 08:30:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's telling you that you must enable USE=gtk for libcanberra for that build to succeed. The chain of packages listed won't solve the problem, they are causing it. Easiest is to

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:00:03PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: On 2011/05/14 10:37 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: Far better (IMO, YMMV) is to use /etc/portage/package.use specify such things per package. Unless, of course, you like having a gtk GUI for everything. :) Yes, for sure. :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 10:06 (GMT-0400) Willie Wong composed: The above listing shows that phonon will be built with the vlc use flag, so clearly you haven't trimmed USE down to just bash-completion, ncurses, samba, slang, xattr. In fact, if you had done so you would've also trimmed out cxx, posix, and

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/14 11:04 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: Felix Miata wrote: On 2011/05/14 10:37 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: Far better (IMO, YMMV) is to use /etc/portage/package.use specify such things per package. Unless, of course, you like having a gtk GUI for everything. :) Yes, for

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:07:33AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Does [1] default/linux/x86/10.0 from 'eselect profile list' amount to a minimal install (no X)? If so, is there any reason not to switch to it instead of setting -vlc, and then later when actually ready to enable X, switching back to

Re: [gentoo-user] Two portage questions

2011-05-14 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 12:31 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: Hi, Gentoo. Two questions about Portage whose ansers I haven't found in the fine manuals: 1. Where is it

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Mick
On Saturday 14 May 2011 16:07:33 Felix Miata wrote: Does [1] default/linux/x86/10.0 from 'eselect profile list' amount to a minimal install (no X)? If so, is there any reason not to switch to it instead of setting -vlc, and then later when actually ready to enable X, switching back to kde?

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:20:01PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: On 2011/05/14 10:06 (GMT-0400) Willie Wong composed: The above listing shows that phonon will be built with the vlc use flag, so clearly you haven't trimmed USE down to just bash-completion, ncurses, samba, slang, xattr. In

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:37 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 08:30:02AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 05:28 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Felix Miata did opine thusly: Is it telling me I have to change my USE

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-14 Thread Stroller
On 13/5/2011, at 8:27pm, Mick wrote: ... Here's mine if you want to compare with my previously sent output: $ cat /etc/env.d/02locale LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=C LC_MONETARY=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_GB.UTF-8

Re: [gentoo-user] Two portage questions

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:12 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: The specific files that define the system set are called packages OK. Some of these directories have got three parents. ;-) The people deciding what goes into the packageses must have very

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-14 Thread Stroller
On 13/5/2011, at 8:32pm, Mick wrote: ... $ date +%l:%M%P 8:39 That's the wall-clock time (p.m.) in my local time-zone. What Americans call daylight savings time, though how they imagine any time is saved I don't know. From `man date`: %l hour ( 1..12) ... %M

Re: [gentoo-user] Two portage questions

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:38 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Kevin O'Gorman did opine thusly: /etc/make.profile is a symlink to something in $PORTDIR/profiles/ and that Odd. Not on my system, it's not. It's a directory with two entries: eapi: a text file, length 2, with contents

Re: [gentoo-user] Two portage questions

2011-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 14 May 2011 08:38:04 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: /etc/make.profile is a symlink to something in $PORTDIR/profiles/ and that Odd. Not on my system, it's not. It's a directory with two entries: eapi: a text file, length 2, with contents 2\n. parent: a text file with two

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:53:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:37 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: True, just be aware that if you enable gtk *globally* you will end up building the gtk interface for absolutely everything which has that

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:01:20PM -0400, Indi wrote: Sounds like the old 6 of one, a half-dozen of the other to me... What makes the subtractive method better? This is how I interpret Alan's message: For certain flags when you enable it for a package you will have to also enable it for its

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc update : locale variables are gone

2011-05-14 Thread Mick
On Saturday 14 May 2011 15:26:38 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 14.05.2011 16:09, schrieb Willie Wong: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 03:41:37PM +0200, Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote: As the subject line says, all variables pertaining to locale are gone (LANG LINGUAS not set, LC_* set to POSIX). In which file

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 09:00:02PM +0200, Willie Wong wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:01:20PM -0400, Indi wrote: Sounds like the old 6 of one, a half-dozen of the other to me... What makes the subtractive method better? This is how I interpret Alan's message: For certain flags when

[gentoo-user] Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

2011-05-14 Thread Pandu Poluan
Hello list! Is there a how-to on how to create a 'filer' (kind of like OpenFiler) using Gentoo? I really don't need many things OpenFiler provided, so I think I want to roll-out my own 'GentooFiler'. Here's what I need: * iSCSI target * Replication * RAID 0 striping (redundancy will be

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Mick
On Saturday 14 May 2011 20:06:18 Indi wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 09:00:02PM +0200, Willie Wong wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:01:20PM -0400, Indi wrote: Sounds like the old 6 of one, a half-dozen of the other to me... What makes the subtractive method better? This is how I

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:00:03PM +0200, Mick wrote: Except when 260+ packages need updating as it happened with the last KDE upgrade. I had a cursory look, but I missed some USE flag changes (scanner, rdesktop and vnc I think) which started removing packages and libraries. Other flag

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

2011-05-14 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 14.05.2011 21:31, schrieb Pandu Poluan: Hello list! Is there a how-to on how to create a 'filer' (kind of like OpenFiler) using Gentoo? I really don't need many things OpenFiler provided, so I think I want to roll-out my own 'GentooFiler'. Here's what I need: * iSCSI target *

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:01 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:53:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:37 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: True, just be aware that if you enable gtk

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:51 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Mick did opine thusly: Well perhaps it's nitpicking, but I like my systems as lean as possible. I almost never emerge anything without -av options, just so I can say no and edit package.use if need be. It rarely causes more

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:00:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 18:01 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: Sounds like the old 6 of one, a half-dozen of the other to me... What makes the subtractive method better? It's not subtractive as

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:36:29AM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: There's no big harm, except that you may end up rebuilding a bunch of packages. One way to get a lot of hands-on control on precisely what USE you want it via the -* flag. But be VERY careful if you are going to use it. A USE

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:09 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: No, I do not propose that one never use global use flags. I just employ them very selectively, which is best for my needs. OK. I'll take that as clarifying what you said earlier. Thanks for that. --

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:21 on Saturday 14 May 2011, William Hubbs did opine thusly: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 11:36:29AM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: There's no big harm, except that you may end up rebuilding a bunch of packages. One way to get a lot of hands-on control on precisely

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Indi
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 12:10:01AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:09 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: No, I do not propose that one never use global use flags. I just employ them very selectively, which is best for my needs. OK. I'll

Re: [gentoo-user] Two portage questions

2011-05-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/14/2011 11:38 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Alan McKinnon /etc/make.profile is a symlink to something in $PORTDIR/profiles/ and that Odd. Not on my system, it's not. I bet it is: kutulu@basement ~ $ ls -l /etc/make.profile lrwxrwxrwx 1 root

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video)

2011-05-14 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/14/2011 12:01 PM, Indi wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 05:53:56PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:37 on Saturday 14 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: True, just be aware that if you enable gtk *globally* you will end up building the gtk interface for

[gentoo-user] One-time boot from alternate kernel?

2011-05-14 Thread Walter Dnes
Is it possible to pass a to do a one-time reboot to other than the default kernel? -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-based 'filer' / GentooFiler How-To?

2011-05-14 Thread Pandu Poluan
Hmmm... that would be a nice start, thanks! Now to figure out how to carry out RAID 0 Striping and Replication. Do you think this 'GentooFiler' thingy I'm planning is worth it to be suggested in [gentoo-project] ? Rgds, On 2011-05-15, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: Am 14.05.2011

RE: [gentoo-user] One-time boot from alternate kernel?

2011-05-14 Thread Pandu Poluan
Turn on the grub menu? Rgds, -original message- Subject: [gentoo-user] One-time boot from alternate kernel? From: Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org Date: 2011-05-15 10:46 Is it possible to pass a to do a one-time reboot to other than the default kernel? -- Walter Dnes