Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer and new cups
just remove the usblp module (blacklist it or remove it completely from the kernel, if its already a module, modprobe -r it) and restart cups. Cups uses raw usb devices. It should appear at the web interface. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't get PulseAudio to work
On 2010-05-22 16:19, luis jure wrote: guys, ever heard of trimming your quotes? +1
[gentoo-user] Something happened on the way to X
Installing Gentoo on my computer... with
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
VIDEO_CARDS=fglrx
INPUT_DEVICES=evdev
everything's fine until I emerge xorg-server, which returns:
[ebuild N] x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7 INPUT_DEVICES=evdev -acecad -aiptek
-joystick -keyboard -mouse -penmount -synaptics -tslib -virtualbox -vmmouse
-void -wacom VIDEO_CARDS=fglrx -apm -ark -ast -chips -cirrus -dummy -epson
-fbdev (-geode) -glint -i128 (-i740) (-impact) -intel -mach64 -mga -neomagic
(-newport) -nv (-nvidia) -r128 -radeon -radeonhd -rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage
-siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2) (-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb)
(-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng -v4l -vesa -via -virtualbox
-vmware (-voodoo) (-xgi)
[ebuild N] x11-libs/libXinerama-1.1 USE=-debug
[ebuild N] x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6 USE=hal nptl xorg -debug -dmx -ipv6
-kdrive -minimal -sdl -tslib
[ebuild N] x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.11 USE=modules (multilib) -debug
[ebuild N] x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.3.2 USE=-debug
[blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.0 (=x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.0 is
blocking x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.11)
* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.11', 'merge') pulled in by
x11-drivers/ati-drivers required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7', 'merge')
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6', 'merge') pulled in by
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r7 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.11', 'merge')
xorg-server
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.3.2', 'merge')
For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
Any known workaround ? Should I fill a bug report ?
gentoo without a GUI is quite frustrating...
--
~adj~
Re: [gentoo-user] Something happened on the way to X
alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote:
Installing Gentoo on my computer... with
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
VIDEO_CARDS=fglrx
INPUT_DEVICES=evdev
everything's fine until I emerge xorg-server, which returns:
[ebuild N] x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7 INPUT_DEVICES=evdev -acecad -aiptek
-joystick -keyboard -mouse -penmount -synaptics -tslib -virtualbox -vmmouse
-void -wacom VIDEO_CARDS=fglrx -apm -ark -ast -chips -cirrus -dummy -epson
-fbdev (-geode) -glint -i128 (-i740) (-impact) -intel -mach64 -mga -neomagic
(-newport) -nv (-nvidia) -r128 -radeon -radeonhd -rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage
-siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2) (-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb)
(-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng -v4l -vesa -via -virtualbox
-vmware (-voodoo) (-xgi)
[ebuild N] x11-libs/libXinerama-1.1 USE=-debug
[ebuild N] x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6 USE=hal nptl xorg -debug -dmx -ipv6
-kdrive -minimal -sdl -tslib
[ebuild N] x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.11 USE=modules (multilib) -debug
[ebuild N] x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.3.2 USE=-debug
[blocks B ]=x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.0 (=x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.0 is
blocking x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.11)
* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.11', 'merge') pulled in by
x11-drivers/ati-drivers required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7', 'merge')
('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6', 'merge') pulled in by
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r7 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.11', 'merge')
xorg-server
=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.3 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.3.2', 'merge')
For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
Any known workaround ? Should I fill a bug report ?
gentoo without a GUI is quite frustrating...
--
~adj~
I don't use ATI but I think I read here a while back that ATI drivers
have to be compatible with certain versions of xorg. You may want to
see if you can use a newer version of the ATI drivers.
You can look at the ebuild to see what exact versions. From what i
read, it looks like you may need the 10 series instead of the 9 series.
Then again, it is sometimes backwards from what I am thinking. May be
worth testing anyway.
Dale
:-) :-)
[gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
When I play some Video with a Non-KDE application like VLC everything is perfectly directed to the local PulseAudio running on my machine and i have the expected sound-output. But when I use a KDE-Application like Kaffeine or Amarok there is no sound output although the stream is listed by pavucontrol. The volume-indicator for the stream does not show any activity. I asked on pulseaudio-discuss and they could help me: It is a bug in Phonon 4.4.1 and the two patches mentioned in the post by Colin Guthrie [1] solve the problem for me. I also filed a bug report in Gentoo about this issue [2]. Finally KDE + PulseAudio rock! Despite the huge amount of criticism of PulseAudio on this list it really works good for me and I am quite happy :) btw: KDE PulseAudio-integration is also becoming better from a usability standpoint in the future: [3] Regards, Fabian [1] https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2010- May/007263.html [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321155 [3] http://colin.guthr.ie/tag/kde/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
I WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE 2010/5/23 Fabian Köster koesterre...@gmx.net When I play some Video with a Non-KDE application like VLC everything is perfectly directed to the local PulseAudio running on my machine and i have the expected sound-output. But when I use a KDE-Application like Kaffeine or Amarok there is no sound output although the stream is listed by pavucontrol. The volume-indicator for the stream does not show any activity. I asked on pulseaudio-discuss and they could help me: It is a bug in Phonon 4.4.1 and the two patches mentioned in the post by Colin Guthrie [1] solve the problem for me. I also filed a bug report in Gentoo about this issue [2]. Finally KDE + PulseAudio rock! Despite the huge amount of criticism of PulseAudio on this list it really works good for me and I am quite happy :) btw: KDE PulseAudio-integration is also becoming better from a usability standpoint in the future: [3] Regards, Fabian [1] https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2010- May/007263.htmlhttps://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2010-%0AMay/007263.html [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321155 [3] http://colin.guthr.ie/tag/kde/
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sunday 23 May 2010, Fabian Köster wrote: I WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE Maybe you should just do it and stop making noise: gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. Just saying...
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On 23/05/2010, at 8:51 PM, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010, Fabian Köster wrote: I WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE Maybe you should just do it and stop making noise: gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. Just saying... You may as well attach an IQ test as well. The fact is that it is easy to read how to unsubscribe, as well as that it is simple to not click and open every piece of email you recieve, so complaints like this are rather baseless.
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sunday 23 May 2010, Indexer wrote: On 23/05/2010, at 8:51 PM, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010, Fabian Köster wrote: I WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE Maybe you should just do it and stop making noise: gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. Just saying... You may as well attach an IQ test as well. The fact is that it is easy to read how to unsubscribe, as well as that it is simple to not click and open every piece of email you recieve, so complaints like this are rather baseless. Uh? If it's so easy to read how to unsubscribe, why so many people periodically beg for help to unsubscribe, or send useless unsubscribe messages to mailing lists? And yes, it's not so strange that to be accepted as part of a group you may be asked to demonstrate that you know what the rules are. It happens all the time in fact.
Re: [gentoo-user] Something happened on the way to X
I don't use ATI but I think I read here a while back that ATI drivers have to be compatible with certain versions of xorg. You may want to see if you can use a newer version of the ATI drivers. You can look at the ebuild to see what exact versions. From what i read, it looks like you may need the 10 series instead of the 9 series. Then again, it is sometimes backwards from what I am thinking. May be worth testing anyway. You need to emerge ati-drivers-8.721. Despite the numbering, its actually the latest
[gentoo-user] bluetooth headset and espeak
I have set up sound to a jabra halo bluetooth headset and it works using mplayer -ao alsa:device=bluetooth soundfile. This works fine for apps like mplayer which can specify the right output device. However, I want to use espeak (in a console) to play back text files - its a good method to check grammar - but I cant get it working? It works out of the box on a nokia n900, but I cant figure out how to get gentoo (gnome desktop) to do it. espeak doesnt support specifying a sound device that I can see - it uses portaudio which is supposed to work with alsa bluetooth but how? It looks like bluez is continually changing so most of the guides Ive found dont apply - I am using bluez-4.39. alsamixer etc dont list the bluetooth device and I cant see it in /proc/asound, but its obviously there if mplayer can access it! BillK bunyip linux # hciconfig -a hci0: Type: USB BD Address: 00:02:C7:E5:A1:65 ACL MTU: 384:8 SCO MTU: 64:8 UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN RX bytes:199720 acl:43 sco:0 events:28229 errors:0 TX bytes:23638521 acl:82313 sco:0 commands:59 errors:0 Features: 0xff 0xff 0x8b 0xfe 0x9b 0xf9 0x00 0x80 Packet type: DM1 DM3 DM5 DH1 DH3 DH5 HV1 HV2 HV3 Link policy: RSWITCH HOLD SNIFF PARK Link mode: SLAVE ACCEPT Name: 'bunyip-0' Class: 0x4a210c Service Classes: Networking, Capturing, Telephony Device Class: Computer, Laptop HCI Ver: 2.0 (0x3) HCI Rev: 0x77b LMP Ver: 2.0 (0x3) LMP Subver: 0x77b Manufacturer: Cambridge Silicon Radio (10) bunyip linux # hciconfig hci0 revision hci0: Type: USB BD Address: 00:02:C7:E5:A1:65 ACL MTU: 384:8 SCO MTU: 64:8 HCI 19.2 Chip version: BlueCore4-External Max key size: 56 bit SCO mapping: HCI
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java problem
-1.7.1 !dev-java/ant-tasks * ERROR: dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1 failed: * Failed to determine VM for building. * * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 48: Called pkg_setup * ebuild.sh, line 1346: Called java-pkg-2_pkg_setup * java-pkg-2.eclass, line 63: Called java-pkg_init * java-utils-2.eclass, line 2126: Called java-pkg_switch-vm * java-utils-2.eclass, line 2550: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * die Failed to determine VM for building. * * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info =dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1', * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv =dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1'. !!! When you file a bug report, please include the following information: GENTOO_VM= CLASSPATH= JAVA_HOME= JAVACFLAGS= COMPILER= and of course, the output of emerge --info * The complete build log is located at '/var/log/portage/dev-java:ant-junit-1.7.1:20100523-125743.log'. * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1/temp/die.env'. * S: '/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1/work/apache-ant-1.7.1' * IMPORTANT: 1 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'. * Use eselect news to read news items.
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:21:39 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. Better for this purpose would be to require all mailing lists to operate in the same way, but that's equally unlikely, as well as undesirable. Just saying... What does that mean? I had a mother-in-law once who often added it to a critical remark, and I never understood what she meant by it either. -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sonntag 23 Mai 2010, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:21:39 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. Better for this purpose would be to require all mailing lists to operate in the same way, but that's equally unlikely, as well as undesirable. Just saying... What does that mean? I had a mother-in-law once who often added it to a critical remark, and I never understood what she meant by it either. and for the uncurable stupid, unsubscribe instructions are in the header of every mail send: List-Post: mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org List-Help: mailto:gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org List-Unsubscribe: mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org List-Subscribe: mailto:gentoo-user+subscr...@lists.gentoo.org List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail gentoo-user.gentoo.org oh noes! help!
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Basic device for a Gentoo router/firewall?
On 22 May 2010, at 22:41, Grant wrote: Does anyone know of a basic device that would function well as a Gentoo router/firewall? Using typical hardware seems like overkill. I should be able to offload package compilation duties to another local machine on the network. It would also be nice if it were small, cheap, and power-efficient. I believe stuff like this http://www.routerboard.com/pricelist.php?started_from_home=1 is really common on the Athens network, but it all appears to be MIPS. I would imagine that, rather than run Gentoo MIPS, one would use something like Openembedded, although searching for the name of that I was reminded of Gentoo Embedded, which might be ideal. One used to be able to get 486 / 586 boards of similar form-factor, but I have no idea if you still can. Cross-compiling using distcc is probably a PITA, and I believe x86 is less power-efficient than MIPS or ARM, but I don't know by how much. An Atom based board might be the best compromise if you want to use real Gentoo - the problem with anything else is that you have to learn to use / build a specialist router-distro if you want to do anything extra-ordinary with it. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] spell checking using kile under gnome
On 22 May 2010, at 15:17, W.Kenworthy wrote: ... using it under gnome there is no way to set a personal dictionary. Ive installed kcontrol which is apparently what you use in KDE to set the dictionaries, but I cant see how to set a personal dictionary. I have in the past (KDE3, I think) tried installing KControl in order to manage preferences for a KDE app running outside of a KDE environment (Knode via SSH / X11 - running on my headless Linux server, displaying on my Mac) but it didn't install any modules when I tried it. Some package(s) other than KControl seemed to provide those, and I never found out what it was. Maybe I need to install/run a full kde to set it? - then will it stay set under gnome? I think your best bet might be to try that. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java problem
On 5/23/10, David Relson rel...@osagesoftware.com wrote: emerge -qv ant-junit fails because ant-junit isn't found Is your portage tree or the underlying filesystem broken? You use eix, so what does eix ant-junit output? Are there really no versions of ant-junit available on your system? Also, from your b.g.o report: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--with-bdeps y --color=n --jobs 4 How about trying it without the parallel emerges? -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Barry Jibb wrote: On 22/05/10 21:26, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: [snip] I don't do professional audio. I have a normal PC. And just like I sometimes use a synth in Windows (I'm just a hobbyist), I'd like to do the same in Linux. You can; but you have to use special software, because yours is a special case. The normal desktop/laptop user does not use a synth. ALSA/Pulse needing third-party stuff just to get basics right (acceptable latency; not *ultra* low latency, just acceptable one) is a sign that they're not designed right. Your definition of acceptable is *ultra* low to me, and many others. To me acceptable latency means that the audio system does not waste my laptop/phone battery. And in the end, you know what? Even if OSS4 had a broken design, it's still better, because it works better. This is your principal problem: you think your use-case is universal, and it's not. To me Alsa+PulseAudio works better because it allows the battery of my laptop to last for hours while I see a movie with my bluetooth headset. With the latencies you want, that's not possible. I believe my use-case is more general. At least it gets the basics right. Other operating systems are much more advanced in that manner. It's ALSA that holds Linux audio back. Jack uses ALSA. From the Jack FAQ page (http://jackaudio.org/faq): quote Doesn't use JACK add latency? There is NO extra latency caused by using JACK for audio input and output. When we say none, we mean absolutely zero. The only impact of using JACK is a slight increase in the amount of work done by the CPU to process a given chunk of audio, which means that in theory you could not get 100% of the processing power that you might get it if your application(s) used ALSA or CoreAudio directly. However, given that the difference is less than 1%, and that your system will be unstable before you get close to 80% of the theoretical processing power, the effect is completely disregardable. /quote ALSA works great. And for regular users, with PulseAudio both are full of awesome awesomeness. For your use-case, you should try Jack. Regards. Can someone unsubscribe me please?!?!?!?!?!? READ THE FUCKING HELP IN THE EMAIL HEADER: List-Post: mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org List-Help: mailto:gentoo-user+h...@lists.gentoo.org List-Unsubscribe: mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org List-Subscribe: mailto:gentoo-user+subscr...@lists.gentoo.org List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail gentoo-user.gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org UNSUBSCRIBE YOURSELF
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sunday 23 May 2010, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:21:39 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. Better for this purpose would be to require all mailing lists to operate in the same way, but that's equally unlikely, as well as undesirable. I would be in favour of that. As I said, many things we do in our lives require active proofs of minimal clue, be it once or periodical. The need is greater if those activities involve people other than you. It's just common sense. In many cases, cluelessness harms; the consequences can be very serious (think driving a car without a licence), moderately serious (for example, setting up unsecured wi-fi), or just annoying (mailing list). So yes, it's not a big deal, it's just annoying to (some of) the other subscribers; but nonetheless,in my opinion participating in a mailing list could require proof of minimal clue. In most cases, it doesn't; I'm not going to start an argument for this, but hopefully one is still allowed to express his opinion. And of course nobody wants you to remeber everything, which would be silly. But having a clue means that you know how to find the information when you need it (in most cases, that means nothing more than you are able to read the instructions; most people seem unable to do even something that simple). In the specific case of the Gentoo mailing lists, it would probably help to append the list instructions at the bottom of each message (as many other lists do), rather than having it only in the headers. Now, people can flame me as much as they want, I won't reply. I just expressed my views, and other people are obviously perfectly free to disagree. Just saying... What does that mean? I had a mother-in-law once who often added it to a critical remark, and I never understood what she meant by it either. One minute of google turns up http://painintheenglish.com/?p=958 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=i%27m%20just%20sayin%27
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sunday 23 May 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 23 Mai 2010, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:21:39 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. Better for this purpose would be to require all mailing lists to operate in the same way, but that's equally unlikely, as well as undesirable. Just saying... What does that mean? I had a mother-in-law once who often added it to a critical remark, and I never understood what she meant by it either. and for the uncurable stupid, unsubscribe instructions are in the header of every mail send: I wouldn't call people who don't know how to unsubscribe stupid, as they most certainly aren't. But for sure, they should know how to find that information if needed, and all the HELP UNSUBSCRIBE kind of messages clearly show that they don't. And even your posting of the instructions now, cannot help future subscribers who won't read your email. That's why it would probably be better (in my opinion) to append the instructions to every message. But this is a very old debate and was discussed to death many times in the past, so I'm certainly not going to further it (and I hope it won't start another endless thread). (this is not directed to you Volker) If somebody wants to flame or continue to criticize, feel free to do that, I won't reply anyway as I have nothing more to add to what I've said already.
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sonntag 23 Mai 2010, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 23 Mai 2010, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010 12:21:39 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: It would be great if mailing list software could be configured so that only users who demonstrate they know how to unsubscribe could subscribe in the first place. Example: - user subscribes - mailing list replies: please unsubscribe and subscribe again - if user fails to do so within a configurable amount of time, forcibly unsubscribe him - if user succeeds, leave him subscribed after the second subscription. And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. Better for this purpose would be to require all mailing lists to operate in the same way, but that's equally unlikely, as well as undesirable. Just saying... What does that mean? I had a mother-in-law once who often added it to a critical remark, and I never understood what she meant by it either. and for the uncurable stupid, unsubscribe instructions are in the header of every mail send: I wouldn't call people who don't know how to unsubscribe stupid, as they most certainly aren't. But for sure, they should know how to find that information if needed, and all the HELP UNSUBSCRIBE kind of messages clearly show that they don't. And even your posting of the instructions now, cannot help future subscribers who won't read your email. That's why it would probably be better (in my opinion) to append the instructions to every message. But this is a very old debate and was discussed to death many times in the past, so I'm certainly not going to further it (and I hope it won't start another endless thread). (this is not directed to you Volker) If somebody wants to flame or continue to criticize, feel free to do that, I won't reply anyway as I have nothing more to add to what I've said already. yeah, 'search mailing list archive' is such a hard thing to do. Why again should laziness be tolerated?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java problem
On Sun, 23 May 2010 17:32:50 +0300 Arttu V. wrote: On 5/23/10, David Relson rel...@osagesoftware.com wrote: emerge -qv ant-junit fails because ant-junit isn't found Is your portage tree or the underlying filesystem broken? You use eix, so what does eix ant-junit output? Are there really no versions of ant-junit available on your system? Also, from your b.g.o report: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--with-bdeps y --color=n --jobs 4 How about trying it without the parallel emerges? -- Arttu V. Hi Arttu, The portage tree is fine, AFAICT. emerge finds the ebuild, but the emerge fails. Removing --jobs 4 doesn't change the result. ant-junit is not installed and emerge ant-junit fails (shown below). The important failure line seems to be: * Unable to determine VM for building from dependencies: NV_DEPEND: dev-java/junit:0 =dev-java/java-config-2.1.9-r1 The ant-junit ebuild seems unusual because it doesn't download anything ### output of emerge ant-junit ### Calculating dependencies... done! Verifying ebuild manifests Emerging (1 of 1) dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1 * apache-ant-1.7.1-src.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ... [ ok ] * ant-1.7.1-gentoo.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * CPV: dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1 * REPO: gentoo * USE: amd64 elibc_glibc kernel_linux multilib userland_GNU !!! ERROR: Package ant-junit was not found! * Unable to determine VM for building from dependencies: NV_DEPEND: dev-java/junit:0 =dev-java/java-config-2.1.9-r1 =sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.7 =sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.7 =dev-java/javatoolkit-0.3.0-r2 =virtual/jdk-1.4 =virtual/jre-1.4 ~dev-java/ant-core-1.7.1 !dev-java/ant-tasks * ERROR: dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1 failed: * Failed to determine VM for building. * * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 48: Called pkg_setup * ebuild.sh, line 1346: Called java-pkg-2_pkg_setup * java-pkg-2.eclass, line 63: Called java-pkg_init * java-utils-2.eclass, line 2126: Called java-pkg_switch-vm * java-utils-2.eclass, line 2550: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * die Failed to determine VM for building. * * If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info =dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1', * the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv =dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1'. !!! When you file a bug report, please include the following information: GENTOO_VM= CLASSPATH= JAVA_HOME= JAVACFLAGS= COMPILER= and of course, the output of emerge --info * The complete build log is located at '/var/log/portage/dev-java:ant-junit-1.7.1:20100523-144943.log'. * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1/temp/die.env'. * S: '/var/tmp/portage/dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1/work/apache-ant-1.7.1' Failed to emerge dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1, Log file: '/var/log/portage/dev-java:ant-junit-1.7.1:20100523-144943.log'
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java problem
On 5/23/10, David Relson rel...@osagesoftware.com wrote: Hi Arttu, The portage tree is fine, AFAICT. emerge finds the ebuild, but the emerge fails. Removing --jobs 4 doesn't change the result. Ok, then that could be discarded as just some wild speculation. Next idea, how about just marking a single arch: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64 x86 I don't know if the java ebuilds, eclasses and wrapper-scripts are wise enough to figure out the correct dependencies with such keywords. I could imagine some part might figure out the arch as x86, but then your system vm would be set to the x86_64 vm, i.e., no x86 system vm set ... (again, just some more wild speculation ;) ) -- Arttu V.
[gentoo-user] Re: Java problem
On 05/23/2010 07:57 AM, David Relson wrote: The important failure line seems to be: * Unable to determine VM for building from dependencies: NV_DEPEND: dev-java/junit:0=dev-java/java-config-2.1.9-r1 I'd suggest re-installing java-config-2 (just because), and then do emerge -d ant-junit to get the debugging output. Something useful may appear in build.log or eclass-debug.log. The ant-junit ebuild seems unusual because it doesn't download anything Right, all the files come from the apache-ant tarball, and the ebuild takes only a few seconds to run.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java problem
On Sun, 23 May 2010 18:16:53 +0300 Arttu V. wrote: On 5/23/10, David Relson rel...@osagesoftware.com wrote: Hi Arttu, The portage tree is fine, AFAICT. emerge finds the ebuild, but the emerge fails. Removing --jobs 4 doesn't change the result. Ok, then that could be discarded as just some wild speculation. Next idea, how about just marking a single arch: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64 x86 Wonder how that got there? I must have been in a creative mood when I did that. The extra arch has been removed, but didn't help matters ... I don't know if the java ebuilds, eclasses and wrapper-scripts are wise enough to figure out the correct dependencies with such keywords. I could imagine some part might figure out the arch as x86, but then your system vm would be set to the x86_64 vm, i.e., no x86 system vm set ... (again, just some more wild speculation ;) ) Have started emerge -auNDtqv world. Emerge has found a bunch of packages to downgrade, including several java related ones. I'll report back later (after a family picnic this afternoon). Regards, David
[gentoo-user] Re: bluetooth headset and espeak
On 05/23/2010 05:20 AM, W.Kenworthy wrote: I have set up sound to a jabra halo bluetooth headset and it works using mplayer -ao alsa:device=bluetooth soundfile. This works fine for apps like mplayer which can specify the right output device... I know nothing about bluetooth except that the kernel does have quite a few different bluetooth-related items in the config menu. Have you checked your kernel config for things that may need to be added? Don't ask me what ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] Something happened on the way to X
On 2010-05-23 14:09, Adam wrote: You need to emerge ati-drivers-8.721. Despite the numbering, its actually the latest No 8.721 is a beta version (10.4-beta), 10.4 is the latest. See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310367 ... especially comment #59 and #63. Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] gd problem [SOLVED]
Thanks a lot Peter. I have fixed gd problem using with gd-2.0.35-r2 Hung On 05/23/10 03:42, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Sunday 23 May 2010 06:50:05 Hung Dang wrote: Hi all, I compile my system and received the following errors: /usr/lib64/libfontconfig.so /usr/lib64/libfreetype.so /usr/lib64/libexpat.so /usr/lib64/libpng14.so /usr/lib64/libXrender.so /usr/lib64/libX11.so /usr/lib64/libxcb.so /usr/lib64/libXau.so /usr/lib64/libXdmcp.so -lz -lm /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so -ldl -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/lib64/graphviz ../../plugin/gd/.libs/libgvplugin_gd.so: undefined reference to `gdImageCreateFromPng' ../../plugin/gd/.libs/libgvplugin_gd.so: undefined reference to `gdImagePngCtx' ../../plugin/gd/.libs/libgvplugin_gd.so: undefined reference to `gdImagePng' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status I tried to recompile gd, however, it does not fix the problem. Any idea? Known problem, which has been fixed in gd-2.0.35-r2.ebuild. Run: # echo media-libs/gd-2.0.35-r2 /etc/portage/package.keywords and try again.
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 03:05:03PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. You just don't remember someone knowing it better. :) W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] xargs and rm funkiness
On Saturday 22 May 2010 08:25:55 Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 22 May 2010 12:35:10 +0100, David W Noon wrote:
find -name *.ext -exe rm {} +
Or simpler still:
find -name *.ext -delete
Neat - I hadn't noticed that option.
Anyone for find / -delete ?
If you use the -delete switch, just be careful. From the man page:
QUOTE
Warnings: Don't forget that the find command line is evaluated as an
expression, so putting -delete first will make find try to delete
everything below the starting points you specified.
/QUOTE
That means that the command
find -name *.tmp -delete
will delete all your temp files while
find -delete -name *.tmp
will delete everything below your current directory. If you're in the root
directory, it's equivalent to running your suggested command above. I just
found this out the hard way, although luckily I wasn't in the root directory
when I ran the command and so didn't trash my system. I did lose the changes
I'd made to the project I was working on but fortunately had a backup of the
original files.
--
If you give me six lines written by the most honest man, I will find something
in them to hang him. - Cardinal Richelieu
[gentoo-user] Re: Java problem
On 05/23/2010 09:56 AM, David Relson wrote: Output of emerge -d ant-junit is attached, though I don't understand what the additional info means. The 'build.log' should contain the actual error message following the test for the system-vm. The test code will look something like this: + java-pkg_switch-vm + debug-print-function java-pkg_switch-vm + str='java-pkg_switch-vm: entering function' + shift + debug-print 'java-pkg_switch-vm: entering function, parameters: ' + '[' '!' -d /media/d/portage/dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1/temp ']' + '[' 'java-pkg_switch-vm: entering function, parameters: ' ']' + '[' '' == on ']' + '[' -n '' ']' + echo 'java-pkg_switch-vm: entering function, parameters: ' + chmod g+w /media/d/portage/dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1/temp/eclass-debug.log + shift + '[' '' ']' + java-pkg_needs-vm + debug-print-function java-pkg_needs-vm lots of snippage There are no error messages in my build.log but I expect there will be some obvious ones in yours.
Re: [gentoo-user] bluetooth headset and espeak
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:20 AM, W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
[...]
It looks like bluez is continually changing so most of the guides Ive
found dont apply - I am using bluez-4.39. alsamixer etc dont list the
bluetooth device and I cant see it in /proc/asound, but its obviously
there if mplayer can access it!
With:
gnome-base/gnome-2.28.2
net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth-2.28.6
media-sound/pulseaudio-0.9.21.1
You only go to System-Preferences-Bluetooh, Set new device...,
detect and connect yo your headset, and then System-Sound, in the
output tab you select your headset, and all the PulseAudio
applications will output sound through your headset.
If also you have
pcm.!default {
type pulse
}
ctl.!default {
type pulse
}
in your ~/.asoundrc, all the ALSA applications will use PulseAudio,
and then it will work for them too.
Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Instituto de Matemáticas
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: Re: Kernel upgrade and now LUKS failure
Don't ask ... I was really perfectly positive back then that there was no newline in my decrypted key (I even used grep, yes) ... today there was one ... *sigh* The posting on: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318865 pointed me at another hint from Jan which now helped me to use my encrypted volume with pam_mount-2.1 at last. Thanks for all your suggestions and help ... sorry for all the noise ... Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: Re: Kernel upgrade and now LUKS failure
On Sunday 23 May 2010 21:37:58 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Don't ask ... I was really perfectly positive back then that there was no newline in my decrypted key (I even used grep, yes) ... today there was one ... *sigh* The posting on: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318865 pointed me at another hint from Jan which now helped me to use my encrypted volume with pam_mount-2.1 at last. Thanks for all your suggestions and help ... sorry for all the noise ... Since we were subjected to all this noise (no problem for me, I found the thread interesting, albeit undecipherable! Pun intended =) can you please explain why a new line breaks the openssl key? I have an SSL pkcs12 certificate which I am trying to use with kmail and I can't decrypt it no matter what encryption passphrase I set up. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New GPS amp; Gentoo?
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 15:42 +, James wrote: * Online searching usb and bluetooth, should interact with PC (running Gentoo?) maybe. Sometimes they only tether with mobiles, but then you can make your laptop look like a mobile by altering the device class in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf I think. * Camera with geotagging I did not see this anywhere, do tell me more Only seen it on the off-road or hiking models. The inbuilt camera automatically tags your location into the exif data (as well as date, time, etc). You can then upload it to the right spot on google maps without you having to locate where you were at the time. The photo also comes up as an icon on the map next time you go by. I was not looking for a GPS with wifi, although that would be keen, in lieu of pay for usage based services. I was looking for points of interest on the GPS device, with a free wifi GPS guide location. Surely something like this exist for mobile laptops, or do folks run some scanning package to find free wifi locations. A GPS coordinate registry for free wifi is more what I'm looking for. Very cool if it's built in or easily addable to the Garmin 1490T. ah, I see. No doubt there is free wifi POI you can download. In my experience, free WIFI doesn't determine where I go. If it's free when I get there, then good, otherwise I'm there anyway! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Success is in the minds of Fools. -- William Wrenshaw, 1578
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
On Sunday 23 May 2010 18:43:26 Willie Wong wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 03:05:03PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: And how often would you impose refresher tests? Anyone's memory is fallible, as no-one knows better than I do. You just don't remember someone knowing it better. :) Who said that? -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java problem
On Sun, 23 May 2010 11:01:53 -0700 walt wrote: On 05/23/2010 09:56 AM, David Relson wrote: Output of emerge -d ant-junit is attached, though I don't understand what the additional info means. The 'build.log' should contain the actual error message following the test for the system-vm. The test code will look something like this: + java-pkg_switch-vm + debug-print-function java-pkg_switch-vm + str='java-pkg_switch-vm: entering function' + shift + debug-print 'java-pkg_switch-vm: entering function, parameters: ' + '[' '!' -d /media/d/portage/dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1/temp ']' + '[' 'java-pkg_switch-vm: entering function, parameters: ' ']' + '[' '' == on ']' + '[' -n '' ']' + echo 'java-pkg_switch-vm: entering function, parameters: ' + chmod g+w /media/d/portage/dev-java/ant-junit-1.7.1/temp/eclass-debug.log + shift + '[' '' ']' + java-pkg_needs-vm + debug-print-function java-pkg_needs-vm lots of snippage There are no error messages in my build.log but I expect there will be some obvious ones in yours. Hi Walt, What build.log file do you mean? Running emerge -d ant-junit produces files: /var/log/portage/dev-java:ant-junit-1.7.1:20100524-010955.log /var/log/portage/elog/dev-java:ant-junit-1.7.1:20100524-010957.log Neither file mentions java-pkg_needs-vm. From where does java-pkg_needs-vm come? Are there other files generated during emerge -d ...? I found java-pkg_needs-vm in /usr/portage/eclass/java-utils-2.eclass. However equery belongs /usr/portage/eclass/java-utils-2.eclass doesn't find an owning package for this file. Do you have this file? What package owns it?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Java problem
On Sun, 23 May 2010 21:26:29 -0400 David Relson rel...@osagesoftware.com wrote: I found java-pkg_needs-vm in /usr/portage/eclass/java-utils-2.eclass. However equery belongs /usr/portage/eclass/java-utils-2.eclass doesn't find an owning package for this file. Do you have this file? What package owns it? It's part of the portage tree, not any packages.
Re: [gentoo-user] bluetooth headset and espeak
espeak is not a pulse audio application but uses portaudio - something
quite different.
I dont have pulseaudio installed and seeing all the bad things people
say about it on other distributions I am leary about installing it on an
otherwise working system without good cause.
Note that as mentioned previously I have audio through the headset
already via mplayer, just not with espeak.
BillK
On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 13:27 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:20 AM, W.Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
[...]
It looks like bluez is continually changing so most of the guides Ive
found dont apply - I am using bluez-4.39. alsamixer etc dont list the
bluetooth device and I cant see it in /proc/asound, but its obviously
there if mplayer can access it!
With:
gnome-base/gnome-2.28.2
net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth-2.28.6
media-sound/pulseaudio-0.9.21.1
You only go to System-Preferences-Bluetooh, Set new device...,
detect and connect yo your headset, and then System-Sound, in the
output tab you select your headset, and all the PulseAudio
applications will output sound through your headset.
If also you have
pcm.!default {
type pulse
}
ctl.!default {
type pulse
}
in your ~/.asoundrc, all the ALSA applications will use PulseAudio,
and then it will work for them too.
Regards.
