Re: [gentoo-user] Re: want sound (alsa) muted on boot
Hey, »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: Sound *is* muted on boot -- logging in to KDE unmutes it, maybe part of session restore. I'll play with my KDE settings and if I can't fix it, I'll be back. Open up kmix. Go to Settings - Configure KMix. Uncheck Restore volumes on login. Or you always log off KDE with muted sound and leave Restore volumes on login enabled. -- Gruß Patrick
Re: [gentoo-user] Cross Compiling in Gentoo
On 01/18/2012 01:18:03 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: While I program a lot on my Linux machines, I haven't actually found an IDE that doesn't make me wish VS ran on Linux. Did you have a look at CodeLite (www.codelite.org) ? If you like, I can send you an ebuild for it (but you can install it under /usr/local, as well). Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] IDE - Was: Cross Compiling in Gentoo
On 1/18/2012 03:59 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 01/18/2012 01:18:03 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: While I program a lot on my Linux machines, I haven't actually found an IDE that doesn't make me wish VS ran on Linux. Did you have a look at CodeLite (www.codelite.org) ? If you like, I can send you an ebuild for it (but you can install it under /usr/local, as well). Helmut. Thanks Helmut, That looks like a very good IDE, and best of all - open source. I will take a look at it. I'm not sure if it can help with cross compiling, but it looks like it can help with some of the projects I want to do in Gentoo for GNU/Linux. I've been stuck using text editors for programming - which means my more ambitious ideas have been on the back burner. Chris --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120117-1, 01/17/2012 Tested on: 1/18/2012 4:22:52 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [gentoo-user] IDE - Was: Cross Compiling in Gentoo
On 01/18/2012 10:22:51 AM, Chris Walters wrote: On 1/18/2012 03:59 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 01/18/2012 01:18:03 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: While I program a lot on my Linux machines, I haven't actually found an IDE that doesn't make me wish VS ran on Linux. Did you have a look at CodeLite (www.codelite.org) ? If you like, I can send you an ebuild for it (but you can install it under /usr/local, as well). Helmut. Thanks Helmut, That looks like a very good IDE, and best of all - open source. I will take a look at it. I'm not sure if it can help with cross compiling, but it looks like it can help with some of the projects I want to do in Gentoo for GNU/Linux. I've been stuck using text editors for programming - which means my more ambitious ideas have been on the back burner. At least, all of my students use it on Windows (the Windows version contains a MinGW environment). Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] IDE - Was: Cross Compiling in Gentoo
On 1/18/2012 04:27 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: snip Did you have a look at CodeLite (www.codelite.org) ? If you like, I can send you an ebuild for it (but you can install it under /usr/local, as well). snip That looks like a very good IDE, and best of all - open source. I will take a look at it. I'm not sure if it can help with cross compiling, but it snip At least, all of my students use it on Windows (the Windows version contains a MinGW environment). Helmut. That sounds promising. I'll get a copy for both Win 7 and Gentoo. I had free versions of Visual Studio from some University classwork in computer science (from an agreement the Department had with M$), but they will not even install on my new computer due to the 64 bit OS. I just wish the M$ would make Windows fully open source - from what I understand, despite its prevalence, they do not make too much money off their operating system - most of their income derives from the XBOX and other software (like Visual Studio, and Office). At least, that would serve to make Windows better and more secure. Chris --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120118-0, 01/18/2012 Tested on: 1/18/2012 4:47:50 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Macbook
I've done it. Don't use grub. Use refit and elilo. At least that's what I used, but it was a couple of years ago. I'm already using rEFIt to switch between Mac OS X and GNU/Linux. Could you be more specific? What should I do to fix it?
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Macbook
Hello! If you get a No bootable device error, select the partitioning tool from the rEFIt menu and update the MBR. This syncs the partition tables between the GPT and MBR loaders. [1] It worked. The only problem I have is that extra Tux in the rEFIt menu. How to get rid of that? [1] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Apple_Macbook_Pro#Booting_Gentoo Cheers!
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Macbook
I've installed other distributions of Linux before on a MacbookPro and have found that installing GRUB to the boot record of sda is a Bad Idea. Instead, try installing GRUB to the partition that Gentoo is currently on (or wherever your /boot partition is mounted) such as (hd0,3). Also, make sure that GRUB is compiled with support for the filesystem that you desire to use; I know for a fact that you have to have a particularly new version of GRUB to support EXT4 filesystems. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:18 AM, . ivd...@gmail.com wrote: I've done it. Don't use grub. Use refit and elilo. At least that's what I used, but it was a couple of years ago. I'm already using rEFIt to switch between Mac OS X and GNU/Linux. Could you be more specific? What should I do to fix it?
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Macbook
I think that that last post might be a little misleading for a new user, I'd just like to clarify it a little bit. On 18 January 2012 15:23, Fernando Freire freir...@up.edu wrote: I've installed other distributions of Linux before on a MacbookPro and have found that installing GRUB to the boot record of sda is a Bad Idea. I can't comment on this part ... Instead, try installing GRUB to the partition that Gentoo is currently on (or wherever your /boot partition is mounted) such as (hd0,3). Installing grub (emerge grub), and installing it to the Boot Record (MBR) of a drive are very different things. Do you mean; grub root (hd0,0) and NOT grub setup(hd0) ? This would require the Apple bootloader to allow chainloading into a partition (and I have no clue if / how that is supported). Also, make sure that GRUB is compiled with support for the filesystem that you desire to use; I know for a fact that you have to have a particularly new version of GRUB to support EXT4 filesystems. grub is has supported ext4 since 2009 - it's kernel filesystem support that's most people mess up. Most gentoo users will still be using grub-0.99, which is years old. -r10 went stable on amd64 in 2010-07.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo + Macbook
On 18 January 2012 15:23, Fernando Freire freir...@up.edu wrote: snip Installing grub (emerge grub), and installing it to the Boot Record (MBR) of a drive are very different things. Do you mean; grub root (hd0,0) and NOT grub setup(hd0) ? Hmm, I first installed grub from the repository and then did a grub-install --no-floppy to (in my case) hd(0,3) which worked perfectly fine with my 2008 MBP. Refit correctly identifies the Linux partition and when it has done its thing it drops me into GRUB, and of course from there into the operating system. Perhaps I'm using the terminology wrong, sorry for the confusion! snip -FF-
[gentoo-user] Portage option --changed-use not working?
Hi all, In man emerge I read: --changed-use Tells emerge to include installed packages where USE flags have changed since installation. This option also implies the --selective option. Unlike --newuse, the --changed-use option does not trigger reinstallation when flags that the user has not enabled are added or removed. So I always include --changed-use when upgrading @world. But with the removal of kdeenablefinal I now get 150 reinstalls with changed-use. This seems to be contradicting the man page? Or am I misunderstanding things? Or did I misconfigure something? To be clear, I have never enabled kdeenablefinal. The full command I usually run is emerge --verbose --deep --with-bdeps=y --complete-graph --update --changed-use --keep-going world should that be relevant. Cheers, Hilco
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] opendns.org
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 04:06:38PM -0800, walt wrote: I just heard about opendns.org for the first time today, but their website makes it seem that I'm the only person in the solar system who's not already on the bandwagon. Anyone know if they are as wonderful as they sound? I have used them for several years. They are very good, and the basic service is free. I use them primarily for filtering and tracking blocked and unblocked web page access. Please note that I was not able to use the web IP page they suggest for configuring ddclient. Instead, I use dnsomatic.com, and all works well. DDclient is pretty easy to set up. Drop a line if you have any questions. Terry
[gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.
I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . These laws, as I understand them, and I am no lawyer, could be used against open source kernels, operating system tools, and other open source applications by companies that would benefit by eliminating competition or potential competition. The definition of infringement is so broad, and the blocking is required with just a single complaint - it could really be used to wreak havoc on the Internet, in general, and by the big players to eliminate the smaller competition. Lame alone could shut down just about every distribution and their mirrors since the mp3 encoder algorithms are patented and cross-patented in so many ways that just the distribution of the source code could result in a complaint and many blocks. Chris --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120118-1, 01/18/2012 Tested on: 1/18/2012 6:55:49 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.
Chris Walters wrote: I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . These laws, as I understand them, and I am no lawyer, could be used against open source kernels, operating system tools, and other open source applications by companies that would benefit by eliminating competition or potential competition. The definition of infringement is so broad, and the blocking is required with just a single complaint - it could really be used to wreak havoc on the Internet, in general, and by the big players to eliminate the smaller competition. Lame alone could shut down just about every distribution and their mirrors since the mp3 encoder algorithms are patented and cross-patented in so many ways that just the distribution of the source code could result in a complaint and many blocks. Chris I bypassed the wiki black out. I used adblock to disable the part that blacks everything out. I was doing some research on my health issues and I wanted more than a black screen. I like the way Google did it. It was certainly noticeable but you could still use the site. If Google had went down, people would have found the competition and that may not be good in the long run, law or no law. Who really competes with Google anyway? I wonder if a Google search would work on that? LOL I don't like the law and honestly I don't like 99% of the laws they even think about much less pass. Trust me, I let my Rep know several times that I oppose both of them and even got a phone call today from one of them. I also pointed out that no law we pass here affects the people overseas. Last I heard, when you got a few miles off shore, our laws pretty much end. The people in other countries are going to hack and steal and host whatever they want as long as it benefits them. They could care less what our laws are. They may be laughing at us too. I know I could care less what laws they pass somewhere else. Little piece of info about me. If you want to get me really going, put a politician on TV and let his lips move. I can give a sailor a run for his money. O_O Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 07:21:12PM -0600, Dale wrote: I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . […] I bypassed the wiki black out. I used adblock to disable the part that blacks everything out. Actually, that could have been one of their points -- it is very easy to circumvent*. Thanks to the blessings of NoScript, I surf with JS mostly disabled, so I wouldn’t have seen it either. However, it is specifically stated on the Wiki page that tells about the blackout) -- they kept a loophole open for “emergencies” (whatever those are). * As far as I heard about those laws (which isn’t as much as I [cs]hould have), they intent to do more than the simple DNS censoring from which our European politicians are getting their wet dreams. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' I forbid any use of my email addresses with Facebook services. Bank -- an institution where you can borrow money for the proof that you don’t need it. pgpl3ZvkOHv87.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 07:21:12PM -0600, Dale wrote: I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . […] I bypassed the wiki black out. I used adblock to disable the part that blacks everything out. Actually, that could have been one of their points -- it is very easy to circumvent*. Thanks to the blessings of NoScript, I surf with JS mostly disabled, so I wouldn’t have seen it either. However, it is specifically stated on the Wiki page that tells about the blackout) -- they kept a loophole open for “emergencies” (whatever those are). * As far as I heard about those laws (which isn’t as much as I [cs]hould have), they intent to do more than the simple DNS censoring from which our European politicians are getting their wet dreams. I'm like this. The internet, although it can have its bad points, has done really well without Governments, at least ours, getting their fingers in the pie. One thing I have learned is that when you want to really screw up a good thing, get the Government involved. I read a neat way of explaining this a good while back. Governments create a problem, claim they are fixing it when there is none, then spend billions trying to fix the fix that wasn't needed to begin with. I wish I had wrote down each time I saw this happen. Thing is, I don't think I can afford that much paper and I'm not sure I have enough drive space either. Here's to hoping Governments learn they can't regulate thought or stupidity. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.
On 1/18/2012 08:21 PM, Dale wrote: I don't like the law and honestly I don't like 99% of the laws they even think about much less pass. Trust me, I let my Rep know several times that I oppose both of them and even got a phone call today from one of them. I also pointed out that no law we pass here affects the people overseas. Last I heard, when you got a few miles off shore, our laws pretty much end. The people in other countries are going to hack and steal and host whatever they want as long as it benefits them. They could care less what our laws are. They may be laughing at us too. I know I could care less what laws they pass somewhere else. Check this out (and note this is without SOPA or PIPA). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzS5rSvZXe8feature=share The US is notorious for extending our(not) laws to other countries. Little piece of info about me. If you want to get me really going, put a politician on TV and let his lips move. I can give a sailor a run for his money. O_O That's why I don't watch news channels - too much chance of exposure to politicians (worse than gamma radiation to me)... Chris --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120118-1, 01/18/2012 Tested on: 1/18/2012 10:04:30 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2012 AVAST Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.
El 19/01/12 00:55, Chris Walters escribió: I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . Some of us did support the movement on our ways, for example the Gentoo Hardened team didn't twit the main points of today's meeting unlike we usually do as a way of protest, but of course nobody in the team complained about that. The problem is, in order to get something bigger, you'll probably need to get approval by either the Council or the Board of Trustees, maybe even from both but, the meetings of these guys have their own dates (last council meeting was on the 10th and last trustees ones on the 15th) and nobody on the community (this includes you) raised the issue of blacking out the page. Of course, anybody from infra could just have gone ahead and done it but if anybody complained he would have had to respond to the Council for that so nobody wanted to take the risk. So what now? Well if you want to see Gentoo opossing SOPA and PIPA openly you should raise those points to the council and the trustees so they discuss them on the next meeting. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.
Chris Walters wrote: On 1/18/2012 08:21 PM, Dale wrote: I don't like the law and honestly I don't like 99% of the laws they even think about much less pass. Trust me, I let my Rep know several times that I oppose both of them and even got a phone call today from one of them. I also pointed out that no law we pass here affects the people overseas. Last I heard, when you got a few miles off shore, our laws pretty much end. The people in other countries are going to hack and steal and host whatever they want as long as it benefits them. They could care less what our laws are. They may be laughing at us too. I know I could care less what laws they pass somewhere else. Check this out (and note this is without SOPA or PIPA). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzS5rSvZXe8feature=share The US is notorious for extending our(not) laws to other countries. Little piece of info about me. If you want to get me really going, put a politician on TV and let his lips move. I can give a sailor a run for his money. O_O That's why I don't watch news channels - too much chance of exposure to politicians (worse than gamma radiation to me)... Chris I shared this on facebook too. This thing is getting a LOT of attention. Next they will try to outlaw Linux. O_O I watch the news but I try to get it straight from the horses backside. We are talking about politicians you know. lol Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:08:42 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 07:21:12PM -0600, Dale wrote: I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . […] I bypassed the wiki black out. I used adblock to disable the part that blacks everything out. Actually, that could have been one of their points -- it is very easy to circumvent*. Thanks to the blessings of NoScript, I surf with JS mostly disabled, so I wouldn’t have seen it either. However, it is specifically stated on the Wiki page that tells about the blackout) -- they kept a loophole open for “emergencies” (whatever those are). * As far as I heard about those laws (which isn’t as much as I [cs]hould have), they intent to do more than the simple DNS censoring from which our European politicians are getting their wet dreams. I'm like this. The internet, although it can have its bad points, has done really well without Governments, at least ours, getting their fingers in the pie. One thing I have learned is that when you want to really screw up a good thing, get the Government involved. I read a neat way of explaining this a good while back. Governments create a problem, claim they are fixing it when there is none, then spend billions trying to fix the fix that wasn't needed to begin with. I wish I had wrote down each time I saw this happen. Thing is, I don't think I can afford that much paper and I'm not sure I have enough drive space either. Here's to hoping Governments learn they can't regulate thought or stupidity. Humanity starts things and continues things. This is good. Governments stop things. This is only sometimes good. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.
Hello! On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:21:12 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: ... I also pointed out that no law we pass here affects the people overseas. Last I heard, when you got a few miles off shore, our laws pretty much end. The people in other countries are going to hack and steal and host whatever they want as long as it benefits them. They could care less what our laws are. They may be laughing at us too. I know I could care less what laws they pass somewhere else. From what I know for sure, many people in different countries supported the opposition to these bills because they understand that this is not just a US problem. If it happens there, it can easily be repeated anywhere. And the point of opposing the US government decisions for people in other countries, to my mind, is to state there point of view *before* their local government try to do the same. And that's important. Regards, Vladimir - v...@ukr.net
Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:08:42 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Here's to hoping Governments learn they can't regulate thought or stupidity. Humanity starts things and continues things. This is good. Governments stop things. This is only sometimes good. Well said. I know the Government, about any kind, is seldom the solution to anything, including a problem. While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up to encrypt and decrypt emails? I want to test some things OFF LIST. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
