Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo starting with stage3

Ok in this case I'm using slint to do the install with stage3 so those lines are needed. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Tue, 21 May 2024, Michael wrote: > The line to test if

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo starting with stage3

The line to test if a symlink exists to /run/shm/ from /dev/shm is only needed when you use non-Gentoo live media to install your system. With the Gentoo installation media, whether you use the minimal CD or the admincd, such an action is not needed. On Tuesday, 21 May 2024 17:52:01 BST Jude

[gentoo-user] gentoo starting with stage3

I am installing gentoo to a different disk on the machine and the install-x86_64-minimal disk is not fit for purpose since I cannot get espeak reading the screen as I go through an installation. Most things are pointed at /mnt/gentoo on my system when doing commands. However in lines where proc is

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >> Here's my udev rules file that defines my network interface names >> for the machine I'm on at the moment: >> >> --/etc/udev/rules.d/70-my-persistent-net.rules--- >> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add",

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: > > >>> If you want consisent network device names (even when you change >>> hardware), you need to either >>> >>> 1. create udev rules that assign device names based on MAC addresses. >>> >>> 2. use a network configuration subsystem that

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: >> If you want consisent network device names (even when you change >> hardware), you need to either >> >> 1. create udev rules that assign device names based on MAC addresses. >> >> 2. use a network configuration subsystem that assigns device names >> and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: > >> So they both show up.  When I try to start the network, it says: >> >> ERROR: Interface enp3s0 does not exist. > Are you sure the network interface name hasn't changed? What does > "ifconfig -a" or "ip addr" show? > > After booting up, what

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On 2024-05-21, Dale wrote: > So they both show up.  When I try to start the network, it says: > > ERROR: Interface enp3s0 does not exist. Are you sure the network interface name hasn't changed? What does "ifconfig -a" or "ip addr" show? After booting up, what does "dmesg | grep enp" show? >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On Tue, 21 May 2024 06:51:51 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > I usually stick e* > in my networkd config for the device name on single-NIC hosts. If you > have multiple NICs then I maybe there is a better way to go about it - > maybe there is a network manager that can use more data from the NIC >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Dale: ... > ERROR: Interface enp3s0 does not exist. > Ensure that you have loaded the correct kernel module for your hardware. ... Do: cat /proc/net/dev Regards, /Karl Hammar

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 6:38 AM Dale wrote: > > So, I created a new link to slot 4. The network came up. So, > basically, it changed names as you suggested. I thought the purpose of > the enp* names was that they are consistent. Adding or removing cards > wouldn't change the names of cards,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-20, Dale wrote: > > A 3.0 card is supposed to work fine in a 2.0 slot. > >> You, or anyone, have any idea why that card would kill my network?  >> I suspect the card itself is fine.  It did see the drive.  I just >> need the internet to work since it may be used

[gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On 2024-05-20, Dale wrote: A 3.0 card is supposed to work fine in a 2.0 slot. > You, or anyone, have any idea why that card would kill my network?  > I suspect the card itself is fine.  It did see the drive.  I just > need the internet to work since it may be used in a NAS rig. Is it causing

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

> You could be right. I did find one interesting post in my google search, one person updated their BIOS and fixed the issue. Pretty sure mine is up to date. Given the age of the mobo, I doubt they even think of releasing a new BIOS for that old thing. > > Anyway, I found a card with a Marvel

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 12:09 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > > First, I thought cards were backward compatible?  You could stick a 3.0 > > into a 2.0 slot and it would just run as a 2.0 and vice versa.  I know > > the mobo is 2.0.  It does

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 12:09 PM Dale wrote: > > First, I thought cards were backward compatible? You could stick a 3.0 > into a 2.0 slot and it would just run as a 2.0 and vice versa. I know > the mobo is 2.0. It does recognize the drive but seems to nuke the > ethernet somehow. I looked,

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: > You probably need to adjust the bios, possibly starting with the fail safe or > optimized defaults and then changing what you need to after everything is > basically working. > I tried it and same thing.  It was a good thought tho.  I tend to run the

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

You probably need to adjust the bios, possibly starting with the fail safe or optimized defaults and then changing what you need to after everything is basically working. May 20, 2024, 14:26 by : > For card specs I always do a web search with the model number, though you may > have to put it

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

For card specs I always do a web search with the model number, though you may have to put it in a slot to read that info.  Most of the cards I buy come from ebay, used, so I'm always looking up the specs.  If it's from a server looking up the part number from one of the labels should work. 

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Dale: > ... >> First, I thought cards were backward compatible?  You could stick a 3.0 >> into a 2.0 slot and it would just run as a 2.0 and vice versa.  I know >> the mobo is 2.0.  It does recognize the drive but seems to nuke the >> ethernet somehow.  I looked,

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Dale: ... > First, I thought cards were backward compatible?  You could stick a 3.0 > into a 2.0 slot and it would just run as a 2.0 and vice versa.  I know > the mobo is 2.0.  It does recognize the drive but seems to nuke the > ethernet somehow.  I looked, there is no switches on the card. 

[gentoo-user] PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

Howdy, I bought a extra PCIe SATA expansion card.  I mostly wanted a extra.  I have a 10 port in my main rig and thought I was buying one like that one, in case it breaks.  When I put it in the old NAS box rig to test, my ethernet wouldn't work.  I tried a different slot but same thing.  I found

Re: [gentoo-user] patching an ebuild file

Il 17/05/24 20:41, Neil Bothwick ha scritto: On Fri, 17 May 2024 20:17:14 +0200, Alarig Le Lay wrote: I can edit the ebuild and then rebuild the manifest but on every update I have to repeat. Is there a way to patch an ebuild in a similar way we can patch sources? You can make an overlay and

Re: [gentoo-user] openjdk 17 on 32 bit systems

netfab wrote: > > You should open a bug [X] Done: https://bugs.gentoo.org/932157 Thank you for your help! -Matt

Re: [gentoo-user] openjdk 17 on 32 bit systems

You should open a bug. '-Wl,-z,notext' flag may be needed to be added somewhere in the build system. From man ld : > text > notext > textoff > Report an error if DT_TEXTREL is set, i.e., if the > position-independent or shared object has dynamic >

Re: [gentoo-user] openjdk 17 on 32 bit systems

netfab wrote: > > Can you post the entire build log somewhere (or maybe as attachment) ? I have put it at https://download.hanft.de/build.log -Matt

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

Michael, On Thursday, 2024-05-16 17:46:04 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > The homepage returned by > > > >$ eix --verbose sys-boot/elilo > >* sys-boot/elilo > > Available versions: ~3.16-r5 > > ... > >$ > > > > hints that this package is no longer maintained ... :-( > > ... >

Re: [gentoo-user] openjdk 17 on 32 bit systems

Le 18/05/24 à 09:58, Matthias Hanft a tapoté : > netfab schrieb: > > > > Is this up-to-date ? What is your version of sys-devel/binutils ? > > Yes, everything else is up-to-date: > Can you post the entire build log somewhere (or maybe as attachment) ?

Re: [gentoo-user] openjdk 17 on 32 bit systems

netfab schrieb: > > Is this up-to-date ? What is your version of sys-devel/binutils ? Yes, everything else is up-to-date: gentoo ~ # uname -a Linux gentoo 6.6.21-gentoo #3 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat May 4 19:18:38 CEST 2024 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

Re: [gentoo-user] openjdk 17 on 32 bit systems

Hi, Le 18/05/24 à 09:31, Matthias Hanft a tapoté : > I'm keeping a (virtual) pretty old 32-bit Gentoo alive [...] Is this up-to-date ? What is your version of sys-devel/binutils ?

[gentoo-user] openjdk 17 on 32 bit systems

Hi, I'm keeping a (virtual) pretty old 32-bit Gentoo alive (just for playing and testing). Everything works fine - except installing a JRE in order to execute some .jar files. openjdk-jre-bin and openjdk-bin aren't available for x86, so I guess I have to install openjdk (stable 17.0.10_p7).

Re: [gentoo-user] patching an ebuild file

On Fri, 17 May 2024 20:17:14 +0200, Alarig Le Lay wrote: > > I can edit the ebuild and then rebuild the manifest but on every > > update I have to repeat. > > > > Is there a way to patch an ebuild in a similar way we can patch > > sources? > You can make an overlay and mask the pacakges from

Re: [gentoo-user] patching an ebuild file

On Fri, 2024-05-17 at 20:17 +0200, Alarig Le Lay wrote: > > Is there a way to patch an ebuild in a similar way we can patch > > sources? > > > > thanks, > > > > raffaele > > You can make an overlay and mask the pacakges from ::gentoo +1 for an overlay, because others may want to use those

Re: [gentoo-user] patching an ebuild file

On Fri 17 May 2024 19:26:02 GMT, ralfconn wrote: > For my raspberry cross-compilation project I need to do simple > modifications locally to some ebuilds. > > I can edit the ebuild and then rebuild the manifest but on every update > I have to repeat. > > Is there a way to patch an ebuild in a

[gentoo-user] patching an ebuild file

For my raspberry cross-compilation project I need to do simple modifications locally to some ebuilds. I can edit the ebuild and then rebuild the manifest but on every update I have to repeat. Is there a way to patch an ebuild in a similar way we can patch sources? thanks, raffaele

Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

ralfconn wrote: > Il 16/05/24 20:46, Dale ha scritto: >> Question.  How are the compiles times between the old FX-8350 and the >> newer Ryzen 9?  I currently have a FX-8350.  Plan to build to a new >> Ryzen something, maybe 5 at first.  Just curious what difference in >> speed you see. > I've not

Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

Il 16/05/24 20:46, Dale ha scritto: Question.  How are the compiles times between the old FX-8350 and the newer Ryzen 9?  I currently have a FX-8350.  Plan to build to a new Ryzen something, maybe 5 at first.  Just curious what difference in speed you see. I've not saved the merge times for the

Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

ralfconn wrote: > Il 15/05/24 16:23, Alan Mackenzie ha scritto: >> As a somewhat tangential question, would it be worthwhile getting water >> cooling in my new machine?  In particular, to reduce the noise it gives >> off while building large packages such as clang and rust?  Or is water >> cooling

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On Thursday, 16 May 2024 17:41:20 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Thursday, 2024-05-16 09:26:39 +0100, you wrote: > > ... > > > > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > > > > > ... > > > > > > Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

Michael, On Thursday, 2024-05-16 09:26:39 +0100, you wrote: > ... > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > ... > > Still available and still working on non-uefi setups: > > https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-boot/lilo > > > > ... > > There's also 'sys-boot/elilo' for EFI

Re: [gentoo-user] mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

Walter, On Wednesday, 2024-05-15 17:28:46 -0400, you wrote: > What I *CAN* do... upload/download/create/delete *FILES* on SD card > > What I *CANNOT* do... create new *DIRECTORIES* on SD card > > [x8940][waltdnes][~/tablet/sdcard1] mkdir data > mkdir: cannot create directory ‘data’:

Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

Il 15/05/24 16:23, Alan Mackenzie ha scritto: As a somewhat tangential question, would it be worthwhile getting water cooling in my new machine? In particular, to reduce the noise it gives off while building large packages such as clang and rust? Or is water cooling only sensible for really

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 10:42:16AM +0100, Nuno Silva wrote > Did anything change? Any tablet software upgrade? Did the MTP tool on > the computer side change? Or perhaps the kernel, if it can influence > this FUSE interaction somehow? Just the usual updates to world. > At this point I'd

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

On Thursday, 16 May 2024 10:42:16 BST Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2024-05-16, Walter Dnes wrote: > > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 03:06:50PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote > > > >> Have you checked that the directory where you are attempting to > >> do this is one that your account owns? I generally have to su -

Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

On Thursday, 16 May 2024 11:13:31 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Wed, May 15, 2024 at 07:08:11PM +0100 schrieb Michael: > > Hi Alan, > > > > On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:23:47 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > Hello, Gentoo. > > > […] > > > So I'm looking at getting an AMD Ryzen 7 7700X

Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

Am Wed, May 15, 2024 at 07:08:11PM +0100 schrieb Michael: > Hi Alan, > > On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:23:47 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hello, Gentoo. > > […] > > So I'm looking at getting an AMD Ryzen 7 7700X processor, and using its > > inbuilt graphics rather than buying a distinct graphics

[gentoo-user] Re: mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

On 2024-05-16, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 03:06:50PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote >> >> Have you checked that the directory where you are attempting to >> do this is one that your account owns? I generally have to su - to >> root, create a directory at the top level, change it so

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On 2024-05-16, Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:10:32 BST k...@aspodata.se wrote: >> Wol: >> > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I >> > > never let it near my systems. >> > >> > I liked lilo. And

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On Wed, 15 May 2024 20:55:53 -0500, Dale wrote: > > xclip is not a clipboard, it is a tool to manage the contents of the > > existing clipboards and selection buffers. > > > > > > > Well, just for giggles.  > > root@fireball / # echo "" | xclip > -bash: xclip: command not found >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On Thursday, 16 May 2024 01:10:32 BST k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Wol: > > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I > > > never let it near my systems. > > > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > ... > >

Re: [gentoo-user] mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 03:06:50PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote > > Have you checked that the directory where you are attempting to > do this is one that your account owns? I generally have to su - to > root, create a directory at the top level, change it so that I own it and > have rwx permissions,

Re: [gentoo-user] mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 4:38 PM Walter Dnes wrote: > > > Have you checked that the directory where you are attempting to do > > this is one that your account owns? I generally have to su - to root, > > create a directory at the top level, change it so that I own it and > > have rwx permissions,

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 May 2024 08:09:01 -0500, Dale wrote: > >>> x11-misc/xclip >>> >>> Or just select some empty space in an application, to overwrite your >>> previous selection. >> Well, since it works, something is acting as a clipboard.  It doesn't >> seem to be xclip in my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

Wol: > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur. 🙂 Anyway, I > > never let > > it near my systems. > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( ... Still available and still working on non-uefi setups:

Re: [gentoo-user] mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

> Have you checked that the directory where you are attempting to do > this is one that your account owns? I generally have to su - to root, > create a directory at the top level, change it so that I own it and > have rwx permissions, and then exit root. After that I can do what > I want. So I

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > > There are 3 'cliboards', known as selections, I know of: > > 1. Primary - you select some text by holding down your left mouse button (or > Shift+arrow) and you paste it with your middle button (or Shift+Insert - > depending on application). > > 2. Secondary -

Re: [gentoo-user] mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 2:29 PM Walter Dnes wrote: > > What I *CAN* do... upload/download/create/delete *FILES* on SD card > > What I *CANNOT* do... create new *DIRECTORIES* on SD card > > [x8940][waltdnes][~/tablet/sdcard1] mkdir data > mkdir: cannot create directory ‘data’: Input/output

[gentoo-user] mtp cannot create directories on SD card on cellphone

What I *CAN* do... upload/download/create/delete *FILES* on SD card What I *CANNOT* do... create new *DIRECTORIES* on SD card [x8940][waltdnes][~/tablet/sdcard1] mkdir data mkdir: cannot create directory ‘data’: Input/output error This happens with both "jmtps" and "simple-mtpfs", so I

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On Wed, 15 May 2024 08:09:01 -0500, Dale wrote: > > x11-misc/xclip > > > > Or just select some empty space in an application, to overwrite your > > previous selection. > > Well, since it works, something is acting as a clipboard.  It doesn't > seem to be xclip in my case. xclip is not a

Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

Hi Alan, On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:23:47 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Gentoo. > > My current rig is working well (hence the lack of posts to the list from > me), but > > The time is coming up for me to buy a new PC, the current one being > around 7 years old. It's served me well

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On 2024-05-15, Wols Lists wrote: > On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur.  Anyway, I never let >> it near my systems. > > I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( > > Grub isn't that bad - it's just that insists on trying to do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On 15/05/2024 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: I think whoever named grub had delusions of grandeur.  Anyway, I never let it near my systems. I liked lilo. And then it disappeared :-( Grub isn't that bad - it's just that insists on trying to do everything itself - and if you've got at all a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

On Wed, 2024-05-15 at 16:25 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > You'll need kernel 5.18 and Mesa 22 plus recent firmware. > > That article was almost 2 years old, so I'd be surprised if all those > are not stable in Gentoo by now. Mesa 22 is not. Only version 24 is stable :)

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:37:22 BST Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > >> > The Clipboard may be stored in RAM or cache of any applications >> > which use this method. >> >> AFAICT, the clipboard contents is stored in the X server. When

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:37:22 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > > The Clipboard may be stored in RAM or cache of any applications > > which use this method. > > AFAICT, the clipboard contents is stored in the X server. When you > cut/copy something, the application

[gentoo-user] Re: Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

On 2024-05-15, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > But in the doc on wiki.gentoo.org, I can't find any mention of inbuilt > graphics; all references are to graphics _cards_. Does Gentoo support > my intended processor's graphics, Technically, no. Gentoo doesn't. However, the Linux kernel, Xorg, and Mesa

Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 15:23:47 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > So I'm looking at getting an AMD Ryzen 7 7700X processor, and using its > inbuilt graphics rather than buying a distinct graphics card. > > But in the doc on wiki.gentoo.org, I can't find any mention of inbuilt > graphics; all

Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Gentoo. > > My current rig is working well (hence the lack of posts to the list from > me), but > > The time is coming up for me to buy a new PC, the current one being > around 7 years old. It's served me well for that time, but nothing > lasts forever. Also,

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 14:37:22 BST Michael wrote: > >> There are 3 'cliboards', known as selections, I know of: >> >> 1. Primary - you select some text by holding down your left mouse button (or >> Shift+arrow) and you paste it with your middle button (or Shift+Insert -

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On 2024-05-15, Michael wrote: > As far as I know the Primary selection is not stored anywhere - > other than within the application's memory space where the range of > characters have been selected. The xserver will call for this when > you middle click to paste it on another application's

[gentoo-user] Graphics configuration for a Ryzen 7 7700X chip and water cooling.

Hello, Gentoo. My current rig is working well (hence the lack of posts to the list from me), but The time is coming up for me to buy a new PC, the current one being around 7 years old. It's served me well for that time, but nothing lasts forever. Also, it would be nice to be able to build

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 14:37:22 BST Michael wrote: > There are 3 'cliboards', known as selections, I know of: > > 1. Primary - you select some text by holding down your left mouse button (or > Shift+arrow) and you paste it with your middle button (or Shift+Insert - > depending on

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 14:09:01 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 11:56:04 BST Dale wrote: > >> There doesn't appear to be a xclip on here, not as a command anyway. > >> Could it be some other name? Maybe it changed? I'm sure it is > >> something. I just don't

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On 2024-05-15, Dale wrote: >> Or just select some empty space in an application, to overwrite your >> previous >> selection. > > Well, since it works, something is acting as a clipboard. It's part of the X server. Same for the two selections. > It doesn't seem to be xclip in my case. 

[gentoo-user] Re: Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On 2024-05-15, Dale wrote: > I thought that too.  I highlighted some text in a Konsole and then > looked in the KDE clipboard, what I highlighted was not there.  > > It wasn't there after I pasted it either.  It goes to a clipboard > somewhere but it appears it only remembers one entry then

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 11:56:04 BST Dale wrote: >> Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Wed, 15 May 2024 03:44:49 -0500, Dale wrote: I thought that too. I highlighted some text in a Konsole and then looked in the KDE clipboard, what I highlighted was not there. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 11:56:04 BST Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 15 May 2024 03:44:49 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I thought that too. I highlighted some text in a Konsole and then > >> looked in the KDE clipboard, what I highlighted was not there. It > >> wasn't there after I

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 May 2024 03:44:49 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I thought that too.  I highlighted some text in a Konsole and then >> looked in the KDE clipboard, what I highlighted was not there.  It >> wasn't there after I pasted it either.  It goes to a clipboard somewhere >> but it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On Wednesday, 15 May 2024 08:42:14 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 02/05/2024 11:46, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate > > /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal operation. The idea was that > > a successful hacker would not,

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On Wed, 15 May 2024 03:44:49 -0500, Dale wrote: > I thought that too.  I highlighted some text in a Konsole and then > looked in the KDE clipboard, what I highlighted was not there.  It > wasn't there after I pasted it either.  It goes to a clipboard somewhere > but it appears it only remembers

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Tue, May 14, 2024 at 06:28:17AM -0500 schrieb Dale: >> Howdy, >> […] >> remember either, or write notes to remember them.  I also wanted to >> avoid the desktop copy and paste, or clipboard, mechanism.  I'm not sure >> how that data is stored in the clipboard and how

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On 02/05/2024 11:46, Peter Humphrey wrote: When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal operation. The idea was that a successful hacker would not, supposedly, be able to corrupt the kernel ready for a reboot into their

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

On 02/05/2024 10:35, Michael wrote: Besides the automation this feature affords, I find it useful to know what a partition contains without having to mount it. On GPT labelled disks I make use both of the Partition Type UUID and the Partition Name. A quick glance at the gdisk output and if

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

Am Tue, May 14, 2024 at 06:28:17AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Howdy, > […] > remember either, or write notes to remember them.  I also wanted to > avoid the desktop copy and paste, or clipboard, mechanism.  I'm not sure > how that data is stored in the clipboard and how good it is at erasing > it when

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 7:28 AM Dale wrote: >> First, I needed to generate a password. > Honestly, I'd stop right there, and think about WHY you're encrypting > your disks, and WHY you need a password to decrypt them. There are > many use cases and threat models to

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 7:28 AM Dale wrote: > > First, I needed to generate a password. Honestly, I'd stop right there, and think about WHY you're encrypting your disks, and WHY you need a password to decrypt them. There are many use cases and threat models to consider. I have a whole bunch of

[gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

Howdy, This is more of a howto or rough guide.  As most know, I have several encrypted hard drives, or sets of hard drives using LVM.  I don't even know how much data I have stored here at the moment.  I started a thread a while back about how to come up with and remember passwords.  I got some

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 6:35 PM Mark Knecht > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've looked for a adapter.  I couldn't find one.  That's why I > connected to a old rig that had a set of molex cables I could use.  > Luckily I had a molex to sata

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

I have a lot of drives like that.  Simplest solution is to cut the orange wire on the drive power cable.  Only down side is that some ssd may require the 3.3V power so you might not want to modify all the power cables.  I just had to do this so my sas drives would spin up.  Before I did it the

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 6:35 PM Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > I've looked for a adapter. I couldn't find one. That's why I connected to a old rig that had a set of molex cables I could use. Luckily I had a molex to sata adapter. Do you know what they are called so I know what to search

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

> > > I've looked for a adapter. I couldn't find one. That's why I connected to a old rig that had a set of molex cables I could use. Luckily I had a molex to sata adapter. Do you know what they are called so I know what to search for? I'd buy a dozen or so just to have extras laying around.

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 4:31 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > Dale wrote: > > > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 2:12 PM Dale > wrote: > > > > > Can someone tell me how to know when a drive has

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 4:31 PM Dale wrote: > > Dale wrote: > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 2:12 PM Dale wrote: > > > Can someone tell me how to know when a drive has PWDIS and when it > > doesn't? Is there some term for it that shows in the specs and I'm > > missing it?

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

Dale wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 2:12 PM Dale > > wrote: >> >> > Can someone tell me how to know when a drive has PWDIS and when it >> > doesn't?  Is there some term for it that shows in the specs and I'm >> > missing it?  Or is there

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

Mark Knecht wrote: > > > On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 2:12 PM Dale > wrote: > > > Can someone tell me how to know when a drive has PWDIS and when it > > doesn't?  Is there some term for it that shows in the specs and I'm > > missing it?  Or is there no way to really know?

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 2:12 PM Dale wrote: > Can someone tell me how to know when a drive has PWDIS and when it > doesn't? Is there some term for it that shows in the specs and I'm > missing it? Or is there no way to really know? I believe PWDIS is part of the SATA 3.3 spec so first filter

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 5:12 PM Dale wrote: >> I'm looking at buying another drive. I'm trying to avoid buying one >> with the PWDIS pin. I'm looking at the specs to see if it says anything >> about the feature, there or not there. I'm not seeing anything. This >> is what

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 5:12 PM Dale wrote: > > I'm looking at buying another drive. I'm trying to avoid buying one > with the PWDIS pin. I'm looking at the specs to see if it says anything > about the feature, there or not there. I'm not seeing anything. This > is what I'm looking at. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

Dale wrote: > > Now to avoid buying another one of these drives again.  I really wish > sellers who should know would put in the description or list of features > that the drive has PWDIS.  After all, most buyers of small quantities of > drives likely can't use that feature.  The ones who do

Re: [gentoo-user] PERL_FEATURES

Many thanks, that helped a lot! Now I have set only those features in the PERL_FEATURES entry that were installed before - the warning has gone and I hoped the correct version of perl is installed now. Helmut On 05/07/2024 08:29:28 PM, Jack wrote: On 2024.05.07 12:33, Helmut Jarausch

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