Empirical testing shows this is being done automatically by z/OS.
Wouldn't it be an intergrity issue with z/OS in a sysplex if it did
not do it automatically? Wouldn't you expect a strong hint in one of
the planning/installation/customization books if there was a need
for action? I would.
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Is there a way to define a USERID which could LOGON to only and just only a
specified terminal.
Thank you in advance.
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The TERMINAL class in RACF can be used for this.
Gadi
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Hi,All
Is there a way to define a USERID which could
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:17:35 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
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Empirical testing shows this is being done automatically by z/OS.
Wouldn't it be an intergrity issue with z/OS in a sysplex if it did
not do it automatically? Wouldn't you expect a strong hint in one of
the
Have a look :
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6490689.html
I don't get it.
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Hi there,
We are also planning to upgrade to driver 67.
I understand the time needed for an upgrade, 3 hours, is rather a lot for this
action.
Has anyone tried to install 67 on the secondary SE in advance and restart the
machine while making the sec SE primary ?
By using this method, the
Bert, we're told it is a concurrent update. Hard to do better than zero
as downtime.
Cheers,,,Steve
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For as long as I've been in the business, it has not embraced new
talent
- getting a start was always hard. People prefer to pay for knowledge
rather than train their own - no risk of (training) investment walking
out the door I guess.
Most of the work I see nowadays is to migrate shops off
SHARE attendee Ed Jaffe of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List
IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 08/11/2007 11:46:56 PM:
Tom Schmidt wrote:
I forgot - are we snubbing at this SHARE or is it a snub-free zone in
San
Diego?
I kind of snubbed Ed Jaffe and Bob Rogers tonight, although they were
The other major reason (or two) is outsourcing. The other major
reason, IMO, is that companies promote techies to management (mainly
to keep the $'s up with current salaries). Seems like HR doesn't keep
current with industry norms. To reward people that have technical
background it gives
Look at the //*MAIN SETUP JECL statement and please no pontificating about
why...
Jack Kelly
LA Systems @ US Courts
x 202-502-2390
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sent him away to the two week MVS internals class
and then the JES2 internals class. Just 2 months after he got back from that
class he left the company for a more lucrative position.
About 18 years ago, a system programmer left one company that was a customer of
a large ISV that had a policy
Gil,
COND=(0,LE) is always true, so any step with COND=(0,LE) will always be
skipped. COND codes can only be positive, so zero is always LE any
possible
COND code.
Not entirely correct, IIRC. If the step is the first step in
the job it will not be skipped. This is mathematically correct
snip
Is there a way to define a USERID which could LOGON to only and just
only a specified terminal.
--unsnip
Only if you have terminal security in effect. Then you would disallow
that user to all terminals
snip--
I agree that techies for the most part don't make good managers. I was
one of those techies that moved into management. I was actually moved
from the position of lead capacity planner to the director of security.
hat was probably too big a
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There is a risk of training new talent.
Snipped
However, we had put a lot of financial and time resources into
Tom Kelman writes
There is a risk of training new talent.We found a very
good person in the applications programming area, transferred him to
technical support, and sent him away to the two week MVS internals
class
and then the JES2 internals class. Just 2 months after he got back
from
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snip
Is there a way to define a USERID
Our experience was you are correct zero down time except we ipl bi-weekly.
The driver was put on concurrent during the week but took 3 hours a
processor to install, CE had to baby sit ;) We then ipl'ed (even though im
pretty sure we didnt have to) to change the clock member for STP. We did
it
And we don't change jobs as frequently as we did when we were in our 20s
and 30s.
I believe that this provided fuel to the market which increased our
salaries.
Thirty years ago a prospective company actually looked at your resume
and sent you a response.
Thirty years ago we believed that we
http://www.nwi.com/articles/2007/08/12//business/business/
doccf453a582e31d2d38625733300612318.txt
Out with outsourcing?
My company insourced the mainframe area from IBM Services about 7 years
ago. They did it because it is costing less to run it themselves than
it did to let IBM run
I elided too much, and I believe you exploited the omission. This
thread
(had) concerned nested procedure calls. I believe I've been told that
there's no construct such as:
unique stepname.procstepname.subprocstepname
.. so how does one unambiguously identify steps at the second,
The IBM joblog, the pair of values in the Reader Date/Time
and the JOB name have NEVER been adequate to define all records
for a job, precisely because of the actual occurrence for many
years of two jobs going thru the reader in the same unit of time,
and because IBM will never change the
In a message dated 8/13/2007 7:14:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Has anyone tried to install 67 on the secondary SE in advance and restart
the
machine while making the sec SE primary ?
By using this method, the downtime will be less.
The exposure/risk is
A war story.
For a consulting assignment I was once given an employee assistant---The
notion was that, knowing the organization, he would be a useful gopher---for
a TCAM performance-improvement project. He was a Polish American; and he
had not been a college graduate when he was hired,
We are having an issue with our COS table and VTAM. We upgraded over the
weekend and missed copying in the ISTSDCOS module into SYS1.VTAMLIB.
Now that we are up, we are having an NDM transmit fail with the following
message:
IST1138I REQUIRED COS NAME BATCH UNDEFINED
I have tried
Summary: When IPL, datasets that are in SYS1.PARMLIB(PROGP1)that are
defined with LNKLST ADD statements are not added to the LNKLST UNLESS they
are on a SYSRES pack or in the master catalog.
I do not want to VOLSER the DSN as they may be moved from only volume to
another. This would cause us
Don't we all have copies of The Bull Moose Management Handbook in amongst
all those manuals and reference cards that we don't look at any more. Still
a good read...
I will admit that the manager has to know his limits and
defer to the technically knowledgeable when warranted. A
manager
Goes to show bean-counters should never be allowed to run corporate
policy...
Amen Brother
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Subject: DS not in LNKLST if not on SYSRES pack?
Summary: When IPL, datasets that are in SYS1.PARMLIB(PROGP1)that are
defined with LNKLST ADD statements are not added
On 8/10/2007 4:10 PM, McKown, John wrote:
Does anybody know why the people who designed SMF decided to encode the
date and time as FL4'hundredths of seconds after midnight' plus
PL4'0cyyddd'? Why not just put in the STCK value? STCK is guaranteed to
be unique on a system (and on a sysplex). I
Todd
You can stop reloading NCP. NCP appears logically to be involved with COS -
because there is reference to a COS table in the NCP source - only if you
have SNI. Even then it is a VTAM-only parameter.
This looks like a 'let go' without ensuring the same skill is available
problem - or
On 8/13/2007 10:51 AM, McKown, John wrote:
However, the use of the TERMINAL class is dependant on the
__application__ to do the RACROUTE to verify access. RACF does not
enforce access. It simply answers the question: Can user % access
resource % with the % access level?. If the code doesn't ask
This is cross-posted to ISPF-L IBM-MAIN because SUPERC is a widely used
utility.
I'm attempting to compare two files, with DCB LRECL=32756, BLKSIZE=32760 /
0, and RECFM=VB, and the max actual record length of 29171. When I use the
UPDLDEL (update long control) option, I get a DELTA file with no
If anybody has an inkjet printer I made some WORD labels:
IBM-Main
San Diego
2007
They're for Avery Dennison 8293 I can send as word attachment if anybody at
SHARE is feeling frisky.
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SET, DELDD ...
This is cross-posted to ISPF-L IBM-MAIN because SUPERC is a
Thank you all for your description.
I really appreciate the time you put to describe the answers for me.
Now I understand the big picture of mainframe and it OSs.
Thanks
Rick Fochtman wrote:
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Hi
Thank you for reading my email.
I have some
Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
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There is a risk of training new talent.
Snipped
However, we had put a lot of financial and
Sure.. but you probably won't like it any better.
1) Use a system symbol for the volser. At least you can change the
volser via symupdte or via IEASYMxx. Maybe define a pack or two that
are just used for Linklst data sets that are not part of the mastercat /
sysres.
2) Use your monitor
Mainframe skills shortages may lessen over time, report says
The mainframe's ability to run Java and Linux may make it appealing to a
new generation of keepers, but in the meantime it's still tough to find
skilled mainframe programmers.
Darren Evans-Young wrote:
Mainframe skills shortages may lessen over time, report says
The mainframe's ability to run Java and Linux may make it appealing to a
new generation of keepers, but in the meantime it's still tough to find
skilled mainframe programmers.
On Aug 13, 2007, at 8:38 AM, Kelman, Tom wrote:
-SNIP-
I agree that techies for the most part don't make good managers. I
was
one of those techies that moved into management. I was actually moved
from the position of lead capacity planner to the director of
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shortages may lessen over time
The problem isn't
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
I elided too much, and I believe you exploited the omission.
This is a curious argument. I certainly did attack and dispose of what he
wrote and not what I thought he might perhaps have meant to write, although
I did allude to my suspicion that he might well have
On Aug 13, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Craddock, Chris wrote:
--SNIP---
This is pretty much exactly what happened across the industry in the
late '70s through the mid '80s. Even to peons like me. I got a metric
boatload of formal classroom training, for which I was (and am) very
grateful.
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I forgot - are we snubbing at this SHARE or is it a snub-free
zone in San Diego?
I kind of snubbed Ed Jaffe and Bob Rogers tonight, although
they were maybe snubbing me even better. (If we're
In a message dated 8/13/2007 2:24:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Scott Fagen, too), but didn't see any other recognizable faces at the
Sunday night gathering. Maybe tonight...
I sent Jeffery Deaver some patterns I had made for IBM-Main t-shirts 20th
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:52:27 +0200, R.S. wrote:
However, in fact I can't see the problem: SE interface is twin to HMC
interface. Performing a POR or IPL isn't more difficult in any way,
except you have to go to server room and open the CPC doors. What's the
problem here ?
We've created IPL
Lots of issues with all of this and as you don't tell us whether the CALLs
are static or dynamic, it is hard to tell which of the problems you might be
running into. Some things to think about:
1) Having an OS/VS COBOL program call an LE-COBOL program is the PRIME time
for discovering that some
On 13 Aug 2007 11:26:10 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (john
gilmore) wrote:
Moreover, I must confess to some considerable impatience with this and other
of Mr Gilmartin's posts. He spends too much time (a) whining and (b)
employing what has historically been a Marxist style of argument: Instead
of
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:00:02 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While that is a common methodology of Marxist arguments, it is common
with pretty much any religious arguments. One such religious fervor
that we in this forum overlook is the Religion of Apple - especially
when we refer to our
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On 13 Aug 2007 11:26:10 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (john
gilmore) wrote:
Bill Klein wrote:
Lots of issues with all of this and as you don't tell us whether the CALLs
are static or dynamic, it is hard to tell which of the problems you might be
running into. Some things to think about:
1) Having an OS/VS COBOL program call an LE-COBOL program is the PRIME time
for
I can't believe this hasn't shown up here yet ...
http://www.groklaw.net/
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AVP Systems Software
CIT Group
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I can't believe this hasn't shown up here yet ...
http://www.groklaw.net/
It did! Last week.
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Robert Pelletier wrote:
Thanks Tim and all. As of this morning we will be going from V2R10 to
ZOS 1.8 if the proposal is signed.
Bob Pelletier
Connecticut Student Loan Foundation
Rocky Hill, Ct.
So here we are in mid-August; I don't recall seeing if
your proposal finally got signed. How
In the JES2 Latest Status session today, John Hutchinson announced that
JES2 will (finally!) support adding/deleting/refreshing user exits dynamically.
This support will be added to z/OS 1.8 and higher via apar OA21346. If you're
at SHARE this week, Dynamic Exits will be discussed in greater
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However, the report doesn't take into account the current skills shortage,
especially in Linux and Java development and administration, workloads which
IBM mainframes are increasingly being asked to shoulder.
I guess I had not considered the shortage of Linux and Java development and
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:17:20 -0400, Walt Farrell wrote:
I believe the time in SMF records (for a job identification) is the time
the job was processed on the card reader. And of course, in the days
where we had physical card readers, I doubt you would have easily gotten
two jobs with the same
John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote:
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I apologize for re-sending Darren's post to the list. I was forwarding
it somebody else and didn't notice what address was auto-filled as I
started to
gskkyman still exists. See chapter 9 of the z/OS 1.7 System SSL Programming
Guide. (Cryptographic Services book shelf). My Equifax cert was pullled in
just fine into the gsk key database (hfs file). There are certainly benifits
to
using RACF but it is not required for the cert. The servers
On Aug 13, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Mark Jacobs wrote:
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Because of the recent problems with the IBM Web Authentication
system and their affect on IBMLink/ServiceLink availability, we
have conducted additional investigations into the stability of the
IBM Web
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