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See above.
Does anyone have anything that does all this already?
Yup, at least 3 and 4.
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Wiki-based approach can work.
Don't blame the technology when a missing tightly defined goal caused
failure. You can do great things with bad technology if you have a
tightly defined and motivating goal.
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enough with stpeter's 500 slides! :D
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closed walled garden systems
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perhaps Jabber will mean nothing at all. ;-)
Wrong: Jabber is listed in the dictionary; XMPP is not listed (yet ;-) ).
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with the MUC component you want to
use. Wait until discovery is finished and then click the create
chatroom option again. You now will also see all MUC components of the
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public domain.
Why not simply setting up some kind of a dictionary system? There is
nothing illegal about copying a translation found in a dictionary...
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2008/8/15 Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, we collected Mood translations for these languages so far (not
all languages are up to date; contributions are welcome! ;-) ):
* Czech
* German
* Spanish
* Italian
* Korean
* Dutch
* Polish
2008/7/21 Jonathan Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
How is this related to XMPP? From what I can tell libretroshare has its own
protocol.
Yes, and there is also the fact that he sent this email to multiple
mailing lists. Can someone block this spammer?
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Messaging Client with Whiteboard saying Powered by
Jabber/XMPP? It's right there in the title keeping the nerds happy, without
confusing Aunt Tillies.
Yup, that's the banner idea. It's like the logos representing Mac OS X
and Windows that you see on software boxes and hardware.
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, this would be a board matter - you ought to re-raise this
on the XSF's Members list,
You need to be a member for doing that.
or send it to the XSF Board list directly.
I did send it to the big boss himself ;-)
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2008/7/7 Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sander Devrieze wrote:
2008/7/7 Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jabber is to XMPP as the Web is to HTTP.
Right
Geeks talk about HTTP, but end users talk about web browsers and web
sites.
Wrong. When end users read http
2008/7/7 JabberForum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sander Devrieze;1603 Wrote:
Neither Jabber not XMPP should be used IMHO. Let them use the term
instant messaging, but make them *associate* the term XMPP with
instant messaging. When people (both geeks and end users) see the
term XMPP and/or the logo
if nothing happens, there
will be a banner campaign using the XMPP logo by the Coccinella
project. Not as official as such a campaign by the XSF, but it makes
no sense to wait forever...
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2008/7/5 Lastwebpage Peter Flindt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Sander Devrieze wrote on 05.07.2008 n Message
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2008/7/5 naw [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
El Sábado 05 Julio 2008, JabberForum escribió:
What about this little bulb? For my own, I like it... or at least I
prefer it to this big X
for Coccinella that would be
really fine!
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El Viernes 04 Julio 2008, Sander Devrieze escribió:
2008/7/4 Pedro Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
in case you need XMPP logo icons, I converted the SVG to PNGs
512x512, 256x256, 128x128 and 64x64, both regular and crushed, with
alpha channel.
You can
server available (you're on a closed network)?
Ask your admin for a MUC service
- What if there is no server available at all (you're on an ad-hoc
network using XEP-0174: Link-Local Messaging)?
Do people who use this need MUC?
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happy to start such a project on Google Code or wherever.
I already started with a page for Dutch ages ago:
http://wiki.jabber.org/index.php/Woordenlijst
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Are there any clients that support XEP-0080 ? Any interesting mashups
of note ?
Check Coccinella: http://coccinella.im/
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h1 tag so that people will easily find.
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. *shrug* =)
Yes, why do you actually have such a transport? AFAICS this only can
confuse people, or am I wrong and are there good reasons to have it?
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2008/5/22 Maciek Niedzielski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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2008/5/22 Daniel Henninger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
xmpp
Since such a thing does exist. =) I'm actually also using gtalk, but I
don't really think that ought to be officially registered. *shrug* =)
Yes, why do you
2008/5/22 Daniel Henninger [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've answered this question many times in the openfire support forums.
Do you have links? Remember this is a thread that is intended to post URLs ;-)
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a message ;).
I think you can make a copy of the Coccinella binary with another name
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2008/5/16 Norman Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
First contact several potential walled garden owners and get
them to support the open letter by switching to XMPP.
Here's a thought that might cause some discussion
2008/5/15 Nick Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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btw: very funny that very recently both Digsby and Adium people wasted
their time with implementing Facebook support...their code can soon be
directed to the waste bin...never
of social networks which we predict (or know for
sure) will adopt XMPP in the future? That may prevent some useless
work in the future and it gives people a nice indication that XMPP is
the future (I miss the Jabber Journals...).
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. And this is a good thing! Thank you! :)
My reply is here as already said before:
http://coccinella.im/whytransportsmatter
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is probably to focus on giving the whole
XMPP world a stronger position in companies; if enough companies ask
XMPP support in Microsoft's products, Microsoft will be forced to add
it, but it will not be easy.
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2008/5/16 Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 05/15/2008 4:33 PM, Sander Devrieze wrote:
2008/5/15 JabberForum [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I aggree. I don't really see a point in having an open letter. They know
of our existence, and they'll contact us soon enough.
An open letter
I don't
that very recently both Digsby and Adium people wasted
their time with implementing Facebook support...their code can soon be
directed to the waste bin...never take the risk to add support for
walled garden networks is the conclusion B-)
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2008/5/14 Peter Saint-Andre [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As seen on the InterWebs:
http://www.allfacebook.com/2008/05/breaking-facebook-to-launch-jabberxmpp-support/
And another one with much comments:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/13/facebook-working
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snip other links
And a diggable story of mine
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ridiculous if I have to fork this project only because
there is no way to send my feedback to the main project.
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is at least required (that is what Mats
said to me). Screenshot attached.
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of Coccinella that does not
include transport-specific icons. On Coccinella 0.96.6 or even cvs,
you will get these icons.
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2008/4/16, Remko Tronçon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Screenshot attached.
Wow, that's confusing. I was at least hoping that you would use
different icons for things where you hide the real JID from the user,
or visualize which transport
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and groups.
Isn't JID Escaping support and/or User Nickname support in both client
and transport a better solution for this?
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2008/4/10, Richard Dobson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Norman Rasmussen wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is not bad. For the Aunt Tilly user using the XMPP client it
should just work.
Agreed, this is better
transfer methods that
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as it simply won't unless the transport is
upgraded to support a newer version of the protocol in which case the
developer will know that they will need to make modifications to the
protocol handling.
Richard
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: end users will pull for these features instead of some
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2008/4/9, Norman Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Sander Devrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
4) When closed network contacts try to send you a file they can get an
unfriendly technical error message like Your client does not support
webdav file transfers. Contact
community close to zero: only contributions to the user
interface may be beneficial also this also may be seen as a
disadvantage (e.g. ugly XMPP-specific dialogs in Adium).
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changes the file
transfer protocol, you still can send files using webdav!
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?
And if there is something, maybe it's better to put the efforts in
extending/fixing JWChat?
Because competition can result in a better JWChat client *and* a new
client...and 2 good clients is better than 1 ;-)
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2008/3/30, Tomasz Sterna [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dnia 2008-03-30, nie o godzinie 17:48 +0200, Sander Devrieze pisze:
Why another web client? What is wrong with JWChat?
And if there is something, maybe it's better to put the efforts in
extending/fixing JWChat?
Because competition
to the contact in the roster to indicate that
there are new blog posts of this contact.
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link for that.
Coccinella supports audio chat ( http://coccinella.im/ ). Video chat
is not supported, but that may change in the future. License=GPLv3.
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I think most clients support this. I'm sure Psi, pidgin and Adium do,
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simply generates a safe resource to not get troubles when
connecting different Jabber clients to the same JID at the same
computer and/or different computers.
btw: is the issue in this thread already fixed? (just curious)
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at our forum.
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connection...
For example, because you are a reporter in a country like Myanmar.
For example, because you don't want other people to capture your
gossips using a tool like Wireshark.
For example, because you use untrusted wireless access points.
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server (but on the client side):
http://coccinella.im/node/93
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on google talk servers, you will have to log the
messages sent by the Google Talk client and copy those.
Better don't implement this...
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like quickly and easily?
I would include for Intermediate Clients:
- A means to upgrade the client from one version to another.
Also should not be in this spec IMO.
- File transfer. Come on guys! :)
Maybe
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On 5/5/07, Kevin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5 May 2007, at 10:13, Sander Devrieze wrote:
I vote for the basic PEP XEP and do not specifically require any of
the XEPs that require PEP (like User Avatar)
I think PEP is an enabler XEP, you never use PEP on its own, so if we
don't require
.
(source:
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needs to extend an existing CMS so that it become a
sexy showcase. If it is really sexy it can speed up adoption of the
XMPP extenstions in the main project.
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of them :-(
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the black listing issue ;-)
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://ejabberd.jabber.ru/node/1297
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Peter Saint-Andre schreef:
Hey Matthias, that's great news. But don't you think that it's a bit odd
to have jabberd14 1.6? :-) Maybe jabberd1 is better...
jabberd1 looks a bit like jabberdl; maybe another point of confusion :D
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to solve the
problem? :o)
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Denis O'Brien schreef:
I'm looking for something under the GPL licence :(
AFAIK, you can take the BSD code and relicense from BSD to GPL without
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?
* What is the XMPP community?--See the whole xmpp.org website
including the page of active XMPP projects.
* Is it worth to implement XMPP support? Are there any other projects
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Peter Saint-Andre schreef:
Sander Devrieze wrote:
I think a list with *active* XMPP server projects (and lists of clients
and libraries!) would be a great thing to add on the xmpp.* website. In
that way people for example easilty can see that jabberd14 is still an
active project
Matthias Wimmer schreef:
Sander Devrieze schrieb:
Add a note to the old website saying This project is abandoned and
unmaintained. bNo security fixes or patches will be made!/b Please
strongly consider switching to a a href=http://some_page_on
xmpp.*_that_lists_all_maintained_XMPP_servers
Tong schreef:
Does anybody know if any of the existing Jabber clients out there
supports PubSub (XEP-0060)?
http://coccinella.cvs.sourceforge.net/coccinella/coccinella/READMEs/README-xmpp?revision=1.1view=markup
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and User Mood
might still become part of Coccinella 0.9.14 B-) ).
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any of the above features (very
well). Personally, I love KMail.
[*] In fact, I believe that good configured e-mail software is much more
efficient than any forum, and currently there is no better Jabber-based
alternative yet :-)
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client, which would be IMO duplicative work).
3) Distribute the XML file (and its updates) with SourceForge.net (or
something similar) to make it distributed (SF.net has many download servers).
Client projects can also opt to serve that file on their server(s) for their
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jabbercraft.com to make something like
netcraft.com? :o)
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