Re: [LegacyUG] Research guidance - Goal with no suggestions

2013-12-26 Thread Kathy Thompson
Of course - but I was asking the question about if I had found a bug or not, not Hey where's my handout That's why and how I knew about the other things of where to look and why I'm not tearing my hair out puzzled about where to look. It is Research Guidance afterall - and I wanted Guidance on

Re: [LegacyUG] Suggestions for Locations vs Addresses?

2013-12-26 Thread Leonard Johnson
I am in the process of changing how I enter addresses. My mother and father lived at 5514 North Newcastle Avenue, Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States. I have entered the street address in the description field, but this does not give the correct location on the map. I have therefore started

Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting Gedcom with Occupation

2013-12-26 Thread Brian/Support
This problem was also reported by one of our testers. The issue is fixed in the latest update. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 06-Dec-2013 5:00 AM, Sebastian Masch wrote: Sebastian Masch schrieb am 06.12.2013 09:31:

[LegacyUG] Custimise - view

2013-12-26 Thread Graham Love
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between 'Flat' and '3-D' (Customise 8.6)? Both appear exactly the same for me but I see there are text boxes in 8.6 - are these meant to contain anything? Graham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived

Re: [LegacyUG] Custimise - view

2013-12-26 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 26/12/2013 14:19, Graham Love wrote: Can anyone tell me what the difference is between 'Flat' and '3-D' (Customise 8.6)? Both appear exactly the same for me The difference is fairly subtle, I think, but if you compare the boxes in the top part of Individual View (ie where birthdate,

RE: [LegacyUG] Research guidance - Goal with no suggestions

2013-12-26 Thread Michele/Support
Kathy, If I have nothing but a marriage record I assume the groom was abt 21 and the bride was about 18. If I have nothing but the date of birth of the children, I find the oldest know child and calculate the marriage date 1 year before that and then their ages using the 21/18 rule. If you

RE: [LegacyUG] Custimise - view

2013-12-26 Thread Graham Love
Thanks Jenny - subtle is an understatement :) Graham -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: 26 December 2013 14:57 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Custimise - view On 26/12/2013 14:19, Graham Love wrote: Can anyone tell

RE: [LegacyUG] Shared Detail Text

2013-12-26 Thread lio .
Hi Cheryl: Thanks for your reply. The only part of the details I want to change is a line or two in the Detail Text. This doesn't stop it from being a Shared Event. Remember I split my sources, I don't lump them. When I source a document I include a transcription of the whole document into the

RE: [LegacyUG] Shared Event - Source Detail Text

2013-12-26 Thread lio .
Hi Brian! Do you lump or split your sources? I split, and keep my Full source transcription in the Master Text, and only portions of it in the Detail Texts. Example: Master text [I include the FULL transcription in the Master Text for each person in the shared event] Jack and Jill lived up on

[LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread circe
I'm using Legacy 7.4.0.45 and an quite happy with it. I prefer to keep my tree plain and simple and have found that this version, along with LTools, provides just about everything I could ask for. I'm not an upgrade for the bloatware bells and whistles person hence my satisfaction with the older

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread Ron Taylor
Helen, I am the Keeper of a fairly large database for a family association with lots of collaborators.  It is not possible for good collaboration between version 7.5 and version 8 because the file structures have changed.  Version 7 files can be read by version 8 but not vice versa.  Therefore,

RE: [LegacyUG] Shared Detail Text

2013-12-26 Thread lio .
Hi Kurt! Yes, that is what I have been doing, but it still makes the final Sourcing a little wonky for me. It works if the Master Text for the event is short (ie. an article about a court case), and the transcription doesn't need to be broken down. But if the shared event is based on a large

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread circe
Many of these bugs that were supposedly fixed in version 7.5.0.278 I've never come across. There are many features in the program that apply to the USA only and if the bug is there, I'd never find them and they wouldn't bother me. And the improvements in 7.5 weren't improvements to me, I just

[LegacyUG] Lumping vs. Splitting

2013-12-26 Thread lio .
SPLITTERS: 1. When you source a document, where do you put the transcription - in the Master Text, or in the Detail Text? 2. Are you using the new Shared Events feature? Any issues? I'd like to see how far off I am with my splitting method and alter it so I can start using the Shared Events

Re: [LegacyUG] Lumping vs. Splitting

2013-12-26 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 26/12/2013 16:16, lio . wrote: 1. When you source a document, where do you put the transcription - in the Master Text, or in the Detail Text? Being a lumper (which is actually correct practice for a relational database, although I don't always carry it to the full extent which I should) I

[LegacyUG] recording baptisms and addresses

2013-12-26 Thread Patti
I had always made it a practice in the past to show the name of the church in the location field when recording baptisms and then putting the sponsors in the events section. I am curious how others are recording this for reporting purposes. I see that we can add an address for the location - is

Re: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages

2013-12-26 Thread singhals
Most two-sex marriages these days aren't life-long either, though. My not needing the ability to add same-sex relationships doesn't mean someone else won't need it, and I can always not-use it if it's there. If someone's keeping count, here's a it might be a nice option vote. Cheryl Ellen

Re: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages

2013-12-26 Thread Sherry/Support
We are keeping count somewhat, but as Leonard wrote quoting Ken, it's a major ripping apart of the basic design of Legacy and would be very time consuming for the programmers. Not only would they have to restructure Legacy, they would also have to re-code all the other options based on the

[LegacyUG] Backup not working

2013-12-26 Thread Boyd Miller
The backup function does not seem to be working, either when I exit Legacy after making changes, or when I specifically ask for the file to backup. I'm using the deluxe version 367 on a W7 computer. My last backup was 24 Dec which is about the time I installed version 367. All the file types and

Re: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages

2013-12-26 Thread grayscot2
I'd like to up the count for including provisions for same sex marriage, significant others, poly-amorous, etc. But also, switching to a different underlying database program. Anything so fragile as to need constant check/repairs is far too fragile. I've used Dbase3, Visual

Re: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages

2013-12-26 Thread Orinda Spence
I would vote for the same sex, relationship provision. Just to include everyone in one's family tree. On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:01 PM, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to up the count for including provisions for same sex marriage, significant others, poly-amorous,

RE: [LegacyUG] Backup not working

2013-12-26 Thread C.G. Ouimet
My 367 backup works fine. Do try another manual backup double checking where the backups are going before actually executing the backup … C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON From: Boyd Miller [mailto:bo...@vodafone.net.nz] Sent: December 26, 2013 01:57 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject:

RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages

2013-12-26 Thread William Boswell
I think the easiest solution is to just add the same-sex partner as either a wife or husband whether their sex matches that position or not. The marriage options allow adding whatever you want under Master Marriage Status List and you can also put a note that both individuals are either male

RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages

2013-12-26 Thread C.G. Ouimet
That is one upgrade I won’t be subscribing to very quickly – just imagine all the bugs and data integrity issues … C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON From: Orinda Spence [mailto:crazypie...@gmail.com] Sent: December 26, 2013 02:10 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same

Re: [LegacyUG] Backup not working

2013-12-26 Thread Boyd Miller
Thanks for your comment. I have just reinstalled version 367 over the previous copy of the same version. In the process it skipped most files but stopped to copy at least one, so it looks like an original installation issue. Backup now appears to work fine. Boyd On 27/12/2013 8:11 a.m., C.G.

RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages

2013-12-26 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
There is no genealogy in same-sex marriages thus there are no same-sex marriages in genealogy. If you want something for recording people, their lives and their relationships, it's called a diary. Brian in CA -Original Message- From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com] Sent:

RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages

2013-12-26 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Genealogy and Family History are not always the same ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON -Original Message- From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com] Sent: December 26, 2013 02:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages

Re: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages

2013-12-26 Thread Sherry/Support
THIS THREAD MUST BE STOPPED NOW! Please, no more posts about same-sex marriages. I see that it's going to start getting hotter It doesn't matter what you think about the relationships and we're getting *away* from Legacy topics now. PLEASE STOP. Thank you. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support

Re: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages

2013-12-26 Thread Kathy Meyer
I've been following this thread with some interest, although I have none of those relationships in my personal records. I think Bill states an obvious and simple solution to this. I've been pondering the ramifications of such a change in the database from a totally non-programming knowledge

Re: [LegacyUG] Setting Font Size

2013-12-26 Thread Brian/Support
I do not know if this is documented in the Help but holding down CTRL and using the mouse scroll wheel worked for me to increase and decrease font size. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On 06-Dec-2013 4:34 PM, David wrote:

RE: [LegacyUG] Backup not working

2013-12-26 Thread Sysadm
Hi Boyd, It’s working fine here... I’ve just tried. Double check the file locations for backups... you need to set them specifically when you carry out a backup. Other than this, you could do a search for the particular backup file you think you have created. From Windows: * Click

RE: [LegacyUG] Adoptions

2013-12-26 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Assuming the child already exists in your file and with parents … In Family View, with the parents in the “Husband” and “Wife” slots and with that adopted child in the Children section, right click any of the children shown to get the pop-up menu – select “Children’s Settings”. From the

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread Denise
I, too, have Vewsion 7.4.0.45 and am disinclined to upgrade.  My version works just fine, and seeing all the emails about various 'bugs' gives me pause. On Thursday, December 26, 2013 9:15 AM, ci...@treadles.ca ci...@treadles.ca wrote: Many of these bugs that were supposedly fixed in

Re: [LegacyUG] Research guidance - Goal with no suggestions

2013-12-26 Thread Howard Cady
Michelle in Support I believe you are missing Kathy Thompson's point. I think she is asking LegacyFamilyTree's Research Guidance to have your logic built in. That is for the program to be intelligent enough to determine that there is a missing death date for a person and then use the generic

Re: [LegacyUG] Child born too Long after previous child

2013-12-26 Thread Chuck Schober
Merry Christmas Thanks to all who have inputted to this problem of mine. I found the area to manage the settings. THANKS ALL Chuck On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Kathy Thompson kmthoms...@gmail.comwrote: I wonder - could baptism dates be known for the three children and the PP alerts

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread Wendy Howard
Denise said: I, too, have Vewsion 7.4.0.45 and am disinclined to upgrade. My version works just fine, and seeing all the emails about various 'bugs' gives me pause. There are bugs in the version you are using, too - it's just that you're not as aware of them as you are these v8 issues due to

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread MikeFry
On 2013/12/26 22:47, Denise wrote: I, too, have Vewsion 7.4.0.45 and am disinclined to upgrade. My version works just fine, and seeing all the emails about various 'bugs' gives me pause. That's great. Just remember that version 7.5 is unlikely to receive much more (if anything) in the way of

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread circe
Wendy, Thank you for such a well-reasoned reply. It stands to reason that we should be made aware of the bugs first because where else can we ask about them except on this list? I think my main question is what do I have to gain from upgrading? I don't want to upgrade and find that all the

RE: [LegacyUG] Adoptions

2013-12-26 Thread C.G. Ouimet
If she was, I wasted my time ... Lesson learned ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON -Original Message- From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com] Sent: December 26, 2013 05:15 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adoptions On 2013/12/26 23:12, C.G. Ouimet wrote:

RE: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread David Abernathy
As for as the use of Locations/Places, I do NOT use any address. I just use the city/town, County, State, and Country. I have NO use for the address except for a very few and those are in my contacts of my email program. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread Jackie King
When it comes right down to it, whether you upgrade now or later to a later version of Legacy, you will eventually upgrade only because as you upgrade your computer you are almost forced to upgrade the software at some point. So whether you choose to upgrade now or in the future, the discussions

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread Don Hendershot
Spam! ~DonH On Dec 26, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Jackie King jskin...@gmail.com wrote: When it comes right down to it, whether you upgrade now or later to a later version of Legacy, you will eventually upgrade only because as you upgrade your computer you are almost forced to upgrade the software

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread circe
Descendant Chart – L to R How does this differ from what's available in Legacy Charting? I keep an old version of a rival program on my hard drive for the rare occasion I need a chart. I'm referring to the kind of chart where each name is in a small box with the BMD info in it too.

Re: [LegacyUG] Does Legacy know something I don't

2013-12-26 Thread Moe Crosby
First thing I would do is write my own Obituary, just in case Legacy was correct and you only had to the end of the day. On Thu, 12/26/13, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: Subject: [LegacyUG] Does Legacy know something I don't To:

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread Sherry/Support
Spam This is a legit message to the LUG list. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Don Hendershot donald.henders...@gmail.com wrote: Spam! ~DonH On Dec 26, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Jackie King jskin...@gmail.com wrote: When it comes

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 deluxe vs Legacy 8 standard

2013-12-26 Thread y.morehouse
Yvonne Morehouse On Dec 21, 2013, at 9:40 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote: A backup is not just a copy. Things have been done to the file, such as compression to reduce the size of the resultant file, so you can't just open it in Legacy and have it work. A copy of your

Re: [LegacyUG] Adoptions

2013-12-26 Thread Eliz Hanebury
Your answer, however was very instructive. A much better why to handle adoptions than I made up. Thank you. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:24 PM, C.G. Ouimet

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread Orinda Spence
I am using Leg 7.5 and I find that Family Search will not take anything I share with it, I always have to take from them. Since I am trying to get my tree onto Family Search I would like for it to work correctly, so that I don't have to go to FS to add children or whatever needs adding. My

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread ChasH
Couple of points, no you do not have to be a member of any particular church but you do need a FamilySearch Family Tree account to login and use the system. goto FamilySearch.org to set one up (free no strings attached). Also remember FamilySearch's goal is to have One tree not Your tree.

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread Don Hendershot
Must be something really wierd between GMail and my iPhone. This message repeated 50 times and none of thisr would delete. I went to my Desktop PC and then it deleted. Sorry for any confusion! ~DonH On Dec 26, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote: Spam

Re: [LegacyUG] Does Legacy know something I don't

2013-12-26 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 26/12/2013 23:07, Sherry/Support wrote: You might want to check your status on the Individual's Information window If you ever accidentally entered info in a death field then backed out, you need to remember to change the living status as well. Thanks, Sherry. That's what must have

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread John B. Lisle
Denise, Helen, et al, One of the challenges with using 7.4,0.45 - or any version of 7.4 - is that the version of FamilySearch that comes with that does not support the current FamilySearch. It only works, if it works at all, with the version of FamilySearch that was recently made read only and

Re: [LegacyUG] Does Legacy know something I don't

2013-12-26 Thread Allen Watson Gmail
LOL! Sent from my iPhone 4S On Dec 26, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On the Legacy Home tab there is a list of Birthdays, Death Dates and Anniversaries. It informs me that I would have been 69 years old in 9 days. Would have been? Am I dead? I think I

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread Orinda Spence
By copy, copy and copy mean to actually make a copy or to backup more than one time? Thanks On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:56 PM, John B. Lisle leg...@tqsi.com wrote: Denise, Helen, et al, One of the challenges with using 7.4,0.45 - or any version of 7.4 - is that the version of FamilySearch

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread singhals
A good point, John. Still, as often as they're changing FS, that may not be true by the time one manages to d/l and install the update. Then too, on another list, there seems to be something non-functional about FS this week in that nearly everyone (across a wide spectrum of browsers, computers,

Re: [LegacyUG] Does Legacy know something I don't

2013-12-26 Thread robs_familytree .
Happy Birthday Jenny! (Or rather, would be Happy Birthday)! Rob Miller Toronto, Ontario Sent from my iPad On Dec 26, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote: On the Legacy Home tab there is a list of Birthdays, Death Dates and Anniversaries. It informs me that I would

[LegacyUG] Sharing Events

2013-12-26 Thread Bryan Pratt
I have a mother in the 1841 UK census and details therein include her son. She has 2 sons called Henry, one of whom is deceased. If I click Share Event from the mother’s individual window I get the “People who share this event” window. I select “Add one or more people” and “Select from the name

Re: [LegacyUG] Sharing Events

2013-12-26 Thread Brian/Support
Did you put a check mark on his name in the name list before clicking Select? You have to do that to have him picked from the list and his name entered in the list of people sharing the event. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

Re: [LegacyUG] Reasons for upgrading

2013-12-26 Thread John B. Lisle
Cheryl, Orinda, et al, First, COPY COPY COPY was just for emphasis. If you convert your only 7.4 family file, you cannot go back. FS gets bug fixes with many new L8 builds. But Millennia is not sending out new builds of L7.5 so that version is not getting those updates. I have been using FS

[LegacyUG] Tagging Marriages

2013-12-26 Thread Kathy Thompson
I s there any way to tag more than one marriage at a time? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:

Re: [LegacyUG] Sharing Events

2013-12-26 Thread Bryan Pratt
Thank you, Brian. That was it. Sent from Windows Mail From: Brian/Support Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎December‎ ‎27‎, ‎2013 ‎5‎:‎28‎ ‎PM To: Legacy Did you put a check mark on his name in the name list before clicking Select? You have to do that to have him picked from the list and his name