Today Ha'aretz published a response from Captain Internet to the Angry
Linuxers (as they called it). The response is mild - it includes statements
like (sorry for the rough translation): lately there was a huge improvement
with the Hebrew support, many people are happy with it but also: Linux
Aviram Jenik wrote:
Unfortunately, despite several attempts by Shachar and Ira, we couldn't get
the Captain to meet Hamakor face to face for further explanations. However,
we're very happy with the community support and the wave of responses that
came to Hamakor and the various Linux
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 10:22, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Aviram Jenik wrote:
Unfortunately, despite several attempts by Shachar and Ira, we couldn't
get the Captain to meet Hamakor face to face for further explanations.
However, we're very happy with the community support and the wave of
Quoting Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm afraid that this command line does not leave enough info in the
parsed output to say anything about the result. Can you please add a -w
filename to the command line, and then send (at least me) the file? In
the case of FTP, the content of the
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:56:45AM +0300, Aviram Jenik wrote:
Today Ha'aretz published a response from Captain Internet to the Angry
Linuxers (as they called it). The response is mild - it includes statements
like (sorry for the rough translation): lately there was a huge improvement
with
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 10:22:35AM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Aviram Jenik wrote:
Unfortunately, despite several attempts by Shachar and Ira, we couldn't get
the Captain to meet Hamakor face to face for further explanations. However,
we're very happy with the community support
like the budkim in universaty say
if you don't take out grades people doesn't bother reading your comments.
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:56:45AM +0300, Aviram Jenik wrote:
Today Ha'aretz
Today Ha'aretz published a response from Captain Internet to the Angry
Linuxers (as they called it). The response is mild - it includes
URL:
http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=310854objNo=10045returnParam=Y
--
Idan
-Original Message-
From: Idan Sofer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Today Ha'aretz published a response from Captain Internet
to the Angry
Linuxers (as they called it). The response is mild - it includes
URL:
http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=31085
Aviram Jenik wrote:
Today Ha'aretz published a response from Captain Internet to the Angry
Linuxers (as they called it). The response is mild - it includes statements
like (sorry for the rough translation): lately there was a huge improvement
with the Hebrew support, many people are happy with
-Original Message-
From: Ben-Nes Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
Though I adore Linux OS and the concept behind it, it still not ready
for the masses in Israel.
Windows is out of the box while linux still need tuning and settings
that will stun most of the people in
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 09:56, Aviram Jenik wrote:
Today Ha'aretz published a response from Captain Internet to the Angry
Linuxers (as they called it). The response is mild - it includes
statements like (sorry for the rough translation): lately there was a huge
improvement with the Hebrew
Since the Linux for masses issue is up again, here's my little food for
thought:
What's wrong with the situation as it is?
What's wrong with Linux not being in every home? Why do we care if our
grandmother pays for her operating system?
There are, of course, a few things that I would like to
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 13:30, Dan Armak wrote:
It may be mild (in comparison to the harsher things he may have written),
but it's definitely not an apology (which he owns us for publishing
incorrect facts, not for a hostile opinion) and he doesn't take any of his
words back. What he says is
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 01:40:49PM +0200, Eli Billauer wrote:
Keep in mind: If Linux, or to be more precise, the main distros of
Linux, will be aimed for everyone, they will also be adapted to that
level. Which means that we'll all find a paperclip helper in Openoffice
very soon.
amor ?
Here's a couple.
A. Development tools and workplaces:
Low adaptation gives MS power to dictate *bad* (non)standards. MS-Word
is not the real problem here; MFC, DirectX, Visual Basic, C#, etc are!
As developers we are forced to use non standard closed tools and
libraries that can be changed
Gilboa Davara wrote:
Here's a couple.
A. Development tools and workplaces:
Low adaptation gives MS power to dictate *bad* (non)standards. MS-Word
is not the real problem here; MFC, DirectX, Visual Basic, C#, etc are!
As developers we are forced to use non standard closed tools and
libraries that
Gilboa Davara wrote on 2003-06-24:
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 14:40, Eli Billauer wrote:
Since the Linux for masses issue is up again, here's my little food for
thought:
What's wrong with the situation as it is?
What's wrong with Linux not being in every home? Why do we care if our
Eli Billauer wrote on 2003-06-24:
Gilboa Davara wrote:
B. Non standard shared Web-sites:
At least half of the sites in Israel don't work right under Mozilla.
(ynet, walla, etc) Why? cause they are using non-standard IE-only
extensions. Christ, even the Linux forum in ynet cannot be read
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 15:45, Eli Billauer wrote:
Gilboa Davara wrote:
Here's a couple.
A. Development tools and workplaces:
Low adaptation gives MS power to dictate *bad* (non)standards. MS-Word
is not the real problem here; MFC, DirectX, Visual Basic, C#, etc are!
As developers we are
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Eli Billauer wrote:
Gilboa Davara wrote:
B. Non standard shared Web-sites:
At least half of the sites in Israel don't work right under Mozilla.
(ynet, walla, etc) Why? cause they are using non-standard IE-only
extensions. Christ, even the Linux forum in ynet cannot be
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 14:43, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
Gilboa Davara wrote on 2003-06-24:
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 14:40, Eli Billauer wrote:
Since the Linux for masses issue is up again, here's my little food for
thought:
What's wrong with the situation as it is?
What's wrong
Hello,
I'm looking for some system and/or Java and/or C/C++ and/or network
programming job.
My resume is available in multiple formats under:
http://picton.bard.org.il/Resume-li
(MS Word, OpenOffice, RTF and HTML)
Thanks for any pointers,
--Amos Shapira
Eli Billauer wrote:
Gilboa Davara wrote:
Here's a couple.
A. Development tools and workplaces:
Low adaptation gives MS power to dictate *bad* (non)standards. MS-Word
is not the real problem here; MFC, DirectX, Visual Basic, C#, etc are!
As developers we are forced to use non standard closed
Quoting Eli Billauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Keep in mind: If Linux, or to be more precise, the main distros of
Linux, will be aimed for everyone, they will also be adapted to that
level. Which means that we'll all find a paperclip helper in Openoffice
very soon.
Bt... Faulty thinking here.
I just upgraded to RH9, and although xfontsel will see my other, locally
installed TT fonts, mainly MS webfonts, qt and kde will have none of it. How
come?
Arie
--
It is absurd to seek to give an account of the matter to a man
who cannot himself give an account of anything; for insofar as
he
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 02:37:48PM +0200, Arie Folger wrote:
I just upgraded to RH9, and although xfontsel will see my other, locally
installed TT fonts, mainly MS webfonts, qt and kde will have none of it. How
come?
Add those fonts to your fontconfig.
Take a look at /etc/fonts/fonts.conf .
Gilboa Davara wrote on 2003-06-24:
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 15:45, Eli Billauer wrote:
Gilboa Davara wrote:
Here's a couple.
A. Development tools and workplaces:
Low adaptation gives MS power to dictate *bad* (non)standards. MS-Word
is not the real problem here; MFC, DirectX, Visual
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 15:55, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
Gilboa Davara wrote on 2003-06-24:
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 15:45, Eli Billauer wrote:
Gilboa Davara wrote:
Here's a couple.
A. Development tools and workplaces:
Low adaptation gives MS power to dictate *bad* (non)standards.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 12:19:39PM +0300, Ely Levy wrote:
like the budkim in universaty say
if you don't take out grades people doesn't bother reading your comments.
This isn't true. I wish they were not saying that.
--
Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 12:46:37PM +0300, Idan Sofer wrote:
Today Ha'aretz published a response from Captain Internet to the Angry
Linuxers (as they called it). The response is mild - it includes
URL:
http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=310854objNo=10045returnParam=Y
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 09:56:45AM +0300, Aviram Jenik wrote:
Unfortunately, despite several attempts by Shachar and Ira, we couldn't get
the Captain to meet Hamakor face to face for further explanations.
1. You might consider inviting the press to Aug 1st, whatever it is
going to
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:14:09AM +0300, Herouth Maoz wrote:
As a last resort you might consider doing some chroot installation of
Mandrake or some other Linux distribution. The intention is to get a
minimal Linux installation that would use the ADSL and have passive ftp
working without
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 14:51, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Add those fonts to your fontconfig.
Take a look at /etc/fonts/fonts.conf . See how existing directories are
configured, and add. Though you should generqally change only
/etc/fonts/local.conf
Thanks. It worked, but I do wonder why ussuch a
Shaul Karl wrote on 2003-06-24:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 12:46:37PM +0300, Idan Sofer wrote:
Today Ha'aretz published a response from Captain Internet to the Angry
Linuxers (as they called it). The response is mild - it includes
URL:
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 11:14, Herouth Maoz wrote:
Quoting Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm afraid that this command line does not leave enough info in the
parsed output to say anything about the result. Can you please add a -w
filename to the command line, and then send (at least me)
Gilboa Davara wrote on 2003-06-24:
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 15:55, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
Let me doubt the Captian being a programmer :-). I stipulate that the
percent of programmers exposed to unix is much higher than the percent
of users exposed to them. I'd guess that more than half of
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 04:24:58PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 12:46:37PM +0300, Idan Sofer wrote:
Today Ha'aretz published a response from Captain Internet to the Angry
Linuxers (as they called it). The response is mild - it includes
URL:
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 19:43, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
Gilboa Davara wrote on 2003-06-24:
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 15:55, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
Let me doubt the Captian being a programmer :-). I stipulate that the
percent of programmers exposed to unix is much higher than the percent
At 18:35 +0300 on 24/6/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, it's a bit hard to see the sequence of commands in the packets - did you
use -s to increase the part of the packets which gets snapped? (-s 0
should capture the entire packet).
OK, I recreated the files. First, I added -s 0 to
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Eli Billauer wrote:
Gilboa Davara wrote:
B. Non standard shared Web-sites:
At least half of the sites in Israel don't work right under Mozilla.
(ynet, walla, etc) Why? cause they are using non-standard IE-only
extensions. Christ, even the Linux forum in ynet cannot be
Well maybe it just me who missing something,
but I was looking at kde site today and so the annoncment for kde 3.1.2
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_1_1to3_1_2.php
while looking around I saw that
kdelibs
* https authentication through proxy fixed.
* KZip failed
Greetings,
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 22:42, Ely Levy wrote:
Well maybe it just me who missing something,
but I was looking at kde site today and so the annoncment for kde 3.1.2
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_1_1to3_1_2.php
while looking around I saw that
kdelibs
Dear Eli,
I am using kde3.1.2 from texstar rpms. In those rpms there is some kind of as
you write spell checking and I am using it even in hebrew.
, ? ?
Those three words are displayed here in red, as misspelled. I can also you
HSpell in the spell checker dialog as you can in english
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote about Re: kde:
it guessed right only , even ??? it did not guess (the closest I
got
was ?) . All the other I got were, really too far away guesses.
, 24 ?? 2003, 22:52, Meni Livne ?:
Hspell's
Herouth Maoz wrote:
At 18:35 +0300 on 24/6/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, I recreated the files. First, I added -s 0 to tcpdump. Second, I
ran ftp with -u and -n. It appears the authentication information is
disabled by -u, and automatic login is disabled by -n. So it should
now be
I think it can be done using aspell,
they are still stalling the prefix suffix support
but if someone would help them add it, it won't be too hard
to write a module for aspell that uses hspell's logic/wordlist
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On 24 Jun 2003, Gilboa
On Tuesday 24 June 2003 22:57, Gilboa Davara wrote:
I was looking into ways to integrate hspell under Abiword and evolution.
Thus far... I found none.
I would guess they support ispell, don't they? Doing it in KDE was fairly easy
since it already has support for ispell, and thanks to hspell's
Last time I checked the aspell site I saw nothing about Hebrew support.
Sure... I'm willing it help. (On the other hand, I doubt that they can
use lousy C programmers :p)
Gilboa
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 23:07, Ely Levy wrote:
I think it can be done using aspell,
they are still stalling the
Yeah... I think both are using the gtk-spell module.
Maybe we (I) should contact the gtk-spell team and offer them help to
adopt the hspell for Hebrew.
I should add the for now evolution doesn't even support bidi (or at
least I don't seem to find a way to enable it) so maybe this should take
At 22:43 +0300 on 24/6/2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
May I inquire what FTP client this is? It seems to be severely broken.
Your transcript says:
That's the basic ftp client, that comes with every unix system since
ftp was invented... Judging by the man page, it's based on the BSD4.2
client,
it's not hebrew support it suffix/preffix support you need to make hebrew
spell checking
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On 24 Jun 2003, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Last time I checked the aspell site I saw nothing about Hebrew support.
Sure... I'm willing it help. (On
the version which is now on development (1.4 it was?) supports bidi.
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On 24 Jun 2003, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Yeah... I think both are using the gtk-spell module.
Maybe we (I) should contact the gtk-spell team and offer them help to
Doesn't really work.
As you see from the above. (Visual Hebrew charset)
Am I missing something? (I'm using the 1.4 release.)
Gilboa
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 23:39, Ely Levy wrote:
the version which is now on development (1.4 it was?)
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:47:25PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Doesn't really work.
As you see from the above. (Visual Hebrew charset)
Am I missing something? (I'm using the 1.4 release.)
Might I suggest that you use a charset name
Herouth Maoz wrote:
At 22:43 +0300 on 24/6/2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
May I inquire what FTP client this is? It seems to be severely broken.
Your transcript says:
That's the basic ftp client, that comes with every unix system since
ftp was invented... Judging by the man page, it's based
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
I am without an explanation. The dump, as taken FROM THE MACHINE
ITSELF already shows no reason of working. Whatever the problem is, it
happens before the packets go out on the network.
On the other hand, the applications you use are well standard
applications, and
At 00:07 +0300 on 25/6/2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Can you please try iptables -L -t nat?
Well, with the firewall up, it's:
Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source destination
Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003, Ely Levy wrote about Re: kde:
I think it can be done using aspell,
they are still stalling the prefix suffix support
but if someone would help them add it, it won't be too hard
to write a module for aspell that uses hspell's logic/wordlist
Aspell is not likely to have
No go.
Same problem.
They have right justification but I don't see no bidi option.
Gilboa
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 23:59, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 11:47:25PM +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Doesn't really work.
As you
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003 00:48:01 +0300
Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hspell's current correction algorithm is very simplistic: it tries
to correct problematic Hebrew spelling mistakes - not typos (which
anybody can correct on their own). Those mistakes include writing
and extra vav or yud
On Wednesday 25 June 2003 00:48, Nadav Har'El wrote:
Koffice 1.2.1 cannot use hspell, btw.
Why? Can it use an ispell -a-like program for doing spell-checking?
If it can use ispell -a and not hspell -a, maybe hspell -a is
still missing necessary features. I'd be happy to know what these are.
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