Hi,
An alternative that works for me is to grow a healthy thumb-nail. Then pinch
thumb and index together, like as if holding a plectrum and use the nail as
a plectrum. You can file down the nail to suit your preference of sound, as
well as strike the course (string) from different angles, and
Piece nr. two in Mouton's Pieces de Luth is a tombeau for the parrot Gogo.
But this is for baroque lute, so perhaps you cannot use it?
G.
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Great Ariel!
Thanks
G.
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Could someone pls. explain why the thinner string is sometimes placed
above (baroque practice?) and sometimes below (renaissance practice?)
the thicker one?
G.
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Monica Hall
[1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
I think octave stringing on the 5th
No. But he, together with Bakfark, Fuenllana and whoever propagated the
relatively rare gimmick of splitting the course. Fingering one of them
but playing on BOTH. Rather difficult to do though.
As to the placing of the thinner string in a course, I remember having
seen also modern
Bakfarks use of split-course technique in the Krakow lute book:
1. Jesu nomen sanctissimum. Secunda pars: Sit nomen domini, measure 9
2. Circumdederunt me, measure 25, measure 56
3. Secunda pars: Quoniam tribulatio, measure 15
4. Qui habitat in adjutorio, measure 59
5. Secunda
this technique?
Can anyone inform?
Op 12 mei 2015, om 18:36 heeft G. C. het volgende geschreven:
A A No. But he, together with Bakfark, Fuenllana and whoever
propagated the
A A relatively rare gimmick of splitting the course. Fingering one of
them
A A but playing on BOTH. Rather
Not strictly quartets, but potentially so:
The Novus partus , while not nearly so extensive a collection as the
Thesaurus, is of interest on several counts. It is one of the last
books to have been printed from woodblock in Germany; and its 59
compositions (also in French tablature)
Well, I imagine you can listen beyond the midi per se...
G.
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:24 PM, David van Ooijen
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[1][2]kalei...@gmail.com wrote:
When listening to the midi files [...] Quite boring Music
Thanks Monica, but I could only find a page with a few instruments and
general info. No inventory.
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Does anyone know if there is an inventory of the collection (online or
else)?
G.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:20 PM, WALSH STUART
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I'm sure this quote from the Royal Academy of Music makes sense -
but
it seems puzzling. Did
One obscure feature of plucking which has always fascinated but eluded
me is the technique of using also the thumb to play on the lower
strings. Supposedly mainly feasible on 6 course instruments and a
narrow neck, it has apparently been in vogue and an open "secret" for
the
t.
Chris
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On Oct 1, 2015, 12:01:01 PM, G. C. wrote:
One obscure feature of plucking which has always fascinated but
eluded
me is the technique of using also the thumb to play on the lower
strings. Supposedly main
Jelma van Amersfoort
On Oct 1, 2015, at 22:43 , G. C. wrote:
>Hey Chris, that's really interesting. So the 19th century
repertoire is
>replete with this technique? I'm surprized and feel there is
much
to
>this matter, which hasn't been thor
Well, Wilder could have gotten a present (the pipe) from a captain that
he cherished and therefore wore on the painting. A picture tells many
stories that should not lead to easy quick conclusions
=NOT=
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pls. notice the RH nail contact?
On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Sean Smith <[1]lutesm...@gmail.com>
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Good morning all,
I was impressed this painting:
[2]http://www.fondationcustodia.fr/ununiversintime/1_meester_van_de_
jaren_veertig_4494.cfm
I appreciate
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271 Too. Thanks Andreas! Are these all the Herwarth books? Felix
lautenschlACURger and Melchior's brother Conrad in there somewhere (as
in Heinhoffer). Very interesting. Again, Bayerische excells :)
G.
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When you start looking into it, (and the writing in this case being so
clear), it is not so very hard to come to grips with it! Start with the
easier pieces, transcribe if you wish, and work your way up.
G.
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Karl Eggert
Last year, I contacted WA 1/4rttembergische Landesbibliothek
Stuttgart enquiring about this important manuscript, and now have the
great honour to announce that they have generously decided to digitize
the three exceptionally clear and beautifully calligraphed volumes in
German
I read he built a (silver?) lute in the form of a horse's head which
had exceptional aural qualities, but have never found a depiction of
it. On the whole, info on both Leonardo as well as Galileo (also said
to have played the lute outstandingly (perhaps not so strange, coming
from
Don't miss this one.
[1]http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07jlm2y
BR
G
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As well as this one a week earlier!
[1]http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07jhv6m
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Don't miss this one.
[1][3]http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07jlm2y
BR
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Thanks a lot Bernd! I really enjoy reading lute related dissertations.
And this comprehensive one on Kapsberger / Kapsperger, publ. almost 20
years after Rolf Lislevand made us aware of this exceptional musician
in 1993, is a great treat.
Anne Marie Dragosits, paints a vast canvas
You wrote:
"Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to engage in a
one-
to-one correspondence with you?"
I believe it does Monica :)
Regards
G.
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I think that what
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Ralph, I wholeheartedly agree with you there. To post a private mail to
the list without consent, especially if the mail contains private
opinions one has chosen to send directly and not via the list, in not
only faux-pas, but also incredibly arrogant and rude. As is inundating
the
Also available in supplement 61 (April 2002)
This was in fact an arrangement for two lutes by Chris Goodwin. It
is
in the music supplement of Lute News No. 44 (December 1997) which
I
have miraculously found in a cardboard box if you want a copy.
Best
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Enclosed is pdf of Veylit's arrangement, also for two lutes ex. list.
G.
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 5:05 AM, sterling price <
spiffys84...@cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> Hi all--
>I am looking for My Lady Careys Dompe as
Veylit also made a solo arrangement in c minor LadyCareySolo.pdf. Can
we find it somewhere Alain?
B.R.
G.
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Its also in Marsh.
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don't call the labâ¦.I won't be there!
On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:46 AM, G. C. <[3]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote:
Also available in supplement 61 (April 2002)
This was in fact an arrangement for two lutes by Chris
Goodwin. It
is
in the music supplement
No idea, really. Lady Carey married Hunsdon, but if it is the same
lady, heaven knows. I've got the feeling that dumps belong to an
earlier age, more first than 4th quarter of 16th c. But the treble in
this one is rather sophisticated.
[cleardot.gif] G.
John Mardinly wrote:
So
Yes, I'm unfortunately most probably mistaken with that fast and
unchecked remark, as my only source was:
[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh-xLdCy_-Q
and we all know how trustworthy that media is. Silly of me. Checked
McFeely and found a few unspesified dumps in Marsh but none
d. Ibid., p. 156.
15. "An Irish Dump,"an instrumental tune. Printed in Smollet
Holden's A
Collection of Old Established Irish Slow and Quick Tunes (Dublin,
ca.
1806-07). Reprinted in Grove's Dictionary of Music and Musicians,
3rd
ed. (New York, 1938), Vol. II, p
Dear Ron,
I have a whole volume of vieux Gautier by CNRS. Are you saying their
scholarship is mostly just speculation?
G.
On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Ron Andrico <[1]praelu...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hello Rainer:
As you know from John Robinson's list, most of
Dear Jean Marie,
do you know if part II of the thesis with the musical examples is
available?
Regards
G.
On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 11:49 AM, jmpoirier2 <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>
wrote:
Thanks David ! You will certainly find it interesting to give a
look at
I must say, the sound was more guitar than lute like
G.
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:29 PM, fournierbru <[1]fournier...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello all
I would like your opinions on this interpretation of the Vivaldu
lute
concerto I found on YouTube.
Dear Rainer
I sent you an answer to the yahoo fronimo group, but it doesn't seem to
register. I don't know what could be wrong. But I'm sure Francesco will
sort it out :)
BR
G.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Rainer <[1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>
wrote:
Sorry to
Look at a4 in 5th measure. Much ado about white's nothing :)
G
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Christopher Stetson
<[1]christophertstet...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Rainer and all,
It appears to me that both examples are identical.
Chris.
On Sun, Jan 15,
Huge thanks Ron, for 6 years of remarkable and insightful lute
bloggings. A veritable treasure trove of thoughtful information for all
of us who like to dig a little deeper.
Best of luck with your new projects!
G
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Ron Andrico
You'll find the London ms. here:
[1]http://jdf.luth.pagesperso-orange.fr/Musiques/Les_compositeurs/Silvi
us_Leopold_Weiss/Weiss_Londres.htm
BR
G
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wrote:
Hello all,
Can anyone help me find
Dear all,
would it be at all possible today, to shed some light on why the star
of david has figured so prominently in the design of lute roses?
BR
G
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Thanks to those who guided me to that article, which I was able to read
at this link:
[1]http://www.slideshare.net/accipio/number-symbolism-in-
the-renaissance-lute-rose
and which explains the matter in a satisfactorily manner, be it perhaps
"somewhat speculative and possibly
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Date: Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Star of David
To: "G. C." <[2]kalei...@gmail.com>
Dear list-users,
please keep in mind that
Dear list,
Martin Luther allegedly played the lute. He is also the purported
composer of a number of protestant psalms.
Has there been any research work on Luther's possible ouvre, or an
attempt to collect his psalms in tablature or otherwise (from different
lutebooks /
Thanks a lot Rainer!
Very interesting.
Looking forward to check.
G.
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Has anyone (Rainer?) made an inventory of the Battle pieces? Every
lutenist worth his salt seems to have made one!
G.
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Hello List,
concerning the "monster recercar" in Siena Lute Book, (Nr. 129 fol.
62v-66 in the Minkoff ed.).
I was wondering if anyone knows if any serious research has been done
or is being done to this piece by any accredited scholars? (And I don't
mean the mostly faulty
Yes, indeed, and the 50th anniversary of the "Summer of Love" :D
G.
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Leonard Williams
<[1]arc...@verizon.net> wrote:
Is this year the 500th anniversary of the Capirola MS?
Leonard
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up their mail program to send text only.
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reached the list, but not in the Mail archives.
G.
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:01 PM, G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote:
Great Wayne! That works. Thanks a lot!
G.
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Way
Well, this list is quirky to say the least. It seems to work 99% of the
time, but sometimes messages arrive, sometimes not. Sometimes you can
access material, sometimes not. Trying to open the archives today f.ex.
doesn't work.
The mailing list is another matter. In 2008 I sent this
Great Wayne! That works. Thanks a lot!
G.
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wrote:
> Trying to open the archives today f.ex. doesn't work
Hi Göran -
If you are trying to access the FTP site at Dartmouth, the college
has cut
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Zarlino, Giuseppe - Quatre livres ou parties
des
I
Hi all,
today I found this.
[1]http://www.rism.info/en/service/opac-search.html
"online lesen" gives the facsimile
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has anyone looked at the lute tablature in this work (in french), or
even read the whole thing?
[1]http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9063327k
G.
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This was first published in 1558. The original has no tabl. so these
are examples...
The person who copied (and maybe also translated) the italian print did
a monumental work!
G.
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
<[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
The
<[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
Yes but it certainly shows how lutenists could transpose music to their
instrument and this French translation is 17th century, one century
after Zarlino published his treatise. Interesting stuff !
Best,
Jean-Marie
> Le 8 août 2017 Ã
Hi all!
Does anybody have the lute version of "Pastyme with good companie" that
Paul O'Dette plays on the Royal Lewters CD. I am encoding it into
fronimo from RA 58 but not getting it quite right. The Phalese version
(De mon triste [Richafort]) is also faulty.
Regards
G.
Thats really wonderful! Thanks a lot Anthony.
BR
G
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 11:05 PM, Anthony Hart
<[1]anthony.hart1...@gmail.com> wrote:
I was browsing for copies of links to facsimiles and came across
this
website. It contains links to original lute books etc
Film Revolution (1968)
Time: 00:25:33
Music: Renaissance Golden Age (Holborne?)
Ytube: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWWOfWj1KE=4305s
Who was there? :)
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You see, its Jar Jar Binks language :)
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:29 PM, adS <[1]rainer.aus-dem-spr...@gmx.de>
wrote:
By far the best example still is
Wascha mesa
Many people believe it means something like washer women :)
Rainer
On 02.06.2017 20:13, Jerzy
[1]http://www.folias.nl/
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Braig, Eugene <[2]brai...@osu.edu>
wrote:
I can't fully answer, but I can narrow your search. Unfortunately, I
think several of the early versions of La Folia will be in Italian
tablature; I don't know what of
Dear All,
is anyone able to recognize the vocal model of this fantasia?
[1]https://www.dropbox.com/s/fttpgk83f8lvnwb/Fantasia%20%281586%29.pdf?
dl=0
(It reminds me of Sermisy's "Le content est riche", but I am not sure)
B.R.
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For some reason the connection link got broken, so you'll have to copy
in also the last part
(1586).pdf?dl=0
to make it work!
First time this has happened.
G.
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 11:45 AM, G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
is anyon
And Horny
And the first piece is Rugiero by John Johnson for 10 course (!) with
massive concordances (and a neat script)
[1]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1=ms=eng=D-B40068
while the rest is a hopscotch of scribes, epochs and composers.
Found not much info on this one?
G.
Lyrical, virtuose, golden. O'Dette has lute-poise, cantabile as well as
precision and a (new to me) marcato style. Thoroughly enjoyed the
concert, (as in Norway in 1985). Thanks Paul!
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So, it's basically a GUI for Wayne's tab. Cool. Hope there is a choice
to set the flags to only reappear when they change value.
I'd like to try the beta please.
BR
G
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Dear lute list
Yes, indeed, IMO Segni's ricercars in lute clothing are superb!
Especially recercar quinto from Da Crema's libro terzo 1546 which has
concordances all over the place (Matelart, 2.11, Siena, etc.) is a real
fav. And they are really quite player-friendly although purportedly
I'd also want to have a loving room! :D
On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Lynda Kraar
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My daughter fell in love with the Sting CD, and we would sit in
the
loving room
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The djvu encoding is really "crap" and requires a lot of work via
several programs to convert to PDF. I'm in the process of doing it.
G.
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580 MB.
Rainer
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The djvu encoding is really "crap" and requires a lot of work
via
several programs to convert to PDF. I'm in the process of doing
it.
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Dear lutelist,
is there a way to remove all those endless quotings of earlier mails in
the string, as well as the (also) endless links that have been
displayed in the previous, (endless) mails? Is there no way to get yhe
messages slimmer?
B.R.
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No, Please, Wayne, that would be to destroy eventually long, but
interesting mails, and would infringe. It is not the size, its the
redundancy I'm talking about, which could perhaps somehow be reduced,
so the postings become easier to scan
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Yes, they used Tielman Susato for the dance numbers. There was a lot of
other music not listed in IMDB though. And lots of lutes.
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On 06.09.2017 21:05, G. C. wrote:
I see what yo
Harsh words, I liked Sting's effort. Karamazow also made a fine input.
On the whole, lute-propagating I think.
G.
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no effect noticed.Perhaps that is because Sting did neither
The tv-series "The Tudor's" had fine authentic golden age music. So did
Elizabeth I and it's sequel
[1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0414055/?ref_=fn_al_ch_1a
G.
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I suppose this one falls in the plain nonsence cathegory?
Rainer wrote:
Good point.
Whenever anything that has to do with physics or (shudder) mathematics
appears in a movie it is normally plain nonsense.
Of course, this doesn't matter for non-mathematicians (or physicists).
[1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0787524/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3
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Neumann wrote:
and though there are no original lute pieces in it, the soundtrack
contains many real lutes.
(quoting the film "Bill" 2015)
The duelling banjos track, with lute was a little bit relevant as well
as kinda funny. Not entirely my favorite though. 6.5 out of 10.
G.
I see what you mean by Elgar and Mozart though :)
[1]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0127536/soundtrack?ref_=tt_ql_trv_7
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The tv-series "The Tudor's" had fine authentic golden age mu
In that case, hopefully a [LOST] printed book! :)
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Gary Boye <[1]boy...@appstate.edu>
wrote:
At first glance, it looks like a ms. copy of a printed book . . .
Gary
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f
it.
Gary
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I found the following book of german tablature online in Sweden
(50
Mb):
[1][4]http://carkiv.musikverk.se/www/Tabulaturbok_Sacks_saml
ing.pdf
This one was co
I found the following book of german tablature online in Sweden (50
Mb):
[1]http://carkiv.musikverk.se/www/Tabulaturbok_Sacks_samling.pdf
This one was completely unknown to me. Could someone shed a light on
this find?
BR
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>> I think we should all be extremely grateful
>>for the hercu
Question to the cognoscenti:
Has any modern luthier yet been adventurous enough, to try and
reproduce Mace's double necked lute-dyphone, and has any antique
specimen survived, or is the figure in his book the only evidence we
have?
G.
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in
Lute News No. 112 (December 2014).
Best,
Matthew
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Question to the cognoscenti:
Has any modern luthier yet been adventurous enough, to try and
reproduce Mace's
The new d-minor tuning is said to have cristalized out of all those
transitional experimental tunings, for being the "best, easiest" to
play. Has there been any research into the when, how and why of
transitional and why they eventually resulted in D-minor? Was it a
string question?
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From: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:31 PM
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: How late was Ren Lute music performed?
So, what you're saying is, that luthiers were the culprits?
On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 1:15 AM, Roman Turovsky
<[1]r.turov...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, the change in barring from the J-bar to fan barring caused
rather drastic change
to the acoustic qualities of lutes, and that
One thing, which can't be argued though, is that the sound of the lute
is SO much more appealing, than those keyboards, (possibly excepting
the Lautenwerk) could ever be. :)
G.
On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 10:37 PM, Matthew Daillie
<[1]dail...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
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Here is the text in french:
BERLIN, Staatsbibliothek
Mus. Ms. 40068
81 f. (f. 1â1v et 2 blancs ; f. 15 et 35â44v inutilisés.)
Le manuscrit est rédigé sur un livre en blanc avec quatre
portées par page, dont la page de titre est ornée d'un frontis pice
gravé
Which of course got scrambled! B(
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Yes, thanks Rainer, found it. Running it through translate now :)
G
On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Rainer <[1]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de>
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[2]http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/DownloadD/files/Abhandlung_Goy.pdf
On 07.10.2017 11:31, G. C. wrote:
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