Re: [OT] Sit/stand desk results

M To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> Subject: Re: [OT] Sit/stand desk results I've been avoiding this conversation. I've had arguments with friends over this. However, I decided to give my two kilojoules since, while its OT, its very relevant to IT types that generally tend

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. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> on behalf of mike smith <meski...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 20 June 2017 1:36:18 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Sit/stand desk results Ketogenisis is too close to ketoaccidosis[1] for someone with insuli

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I understand conservation of energy, the problem here is that extrapolating from that to weight loss strategy is a specious argument. If you reduce the energy intake on a human you don't immediately start triggering fat burning: you can also trigger reduced effort expended (both directly, and a

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ried chicken crumbed in pork rinds combined with Parmesan >> cheese. >> So good. Hmm... this might possibly be the first recipe shared on this >> elist. :) >> >> Anyway to keep on topic, had a standup desk and my last project, one of >> those motorised ones. Great for ex

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I should point out the significant but possibly overlooked statement: "kilojoules _absorbed_ from food" as opposed to "consumed". They are different. The path a particular chemical takes in our body ultimately doesn't matter. If the useful energy we ultimately get from everything we eat is

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As an ex-scientist, and generally fairly technical person, this is always the argument I've previously believed. However, the problem with this mindset is that it does assume that the body is just a store for energy, and that all energy within that system is accessed equally and symmetrically.

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2017 3:48 PM To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> Subject: Re: [OT] Sit/stand desk results When I was a wee lad I remember doing science experiments that showed that not all compounds were equal, and some chemical reactions produced more energy than others. If you consume food that doesn

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So the mechanism as I understand it is like this: - high glucose in bloodstream causes insulin release - insulin tells cells to burn glucose rather than fat for energy consumption, but also triggers fat takeup (blood to storage) - ergo fat + glucose in your blood will cause you to store fat -

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om> Subject: Re: [OT] Sit/stand desk results I've been avoiding this conversation. I've had arguments with friends over this. However, I decided to give my two kilojoules since, while its OT, its very relevant to IT types that generally tend to have a sedentary life style. There is a fundamen

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When I was a wee lad I remember doing science experiments that showed that not all compounds were equal, and some chemical reactions produced more energy than others. If you consume food that doesn't digest it might have lots of calories but you won't be consuming any of those calories. So this

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I've been avoiding this conversation. I've had arguments with friends over this. However, I decided to give my two kilojoules since, while its OT, its very relevant to IT types that generally tend to have a sedentary life style. There is a fundamental law of physics at work here: Conservation

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th no breakfast, had one coffee at work, and >>>>>> worked right through lunch as I hadn't taken anything and office is a bit >>>>>> of a drive from places to eat. Barely noticed. >>>>>> Don't miss sugar. Finding some awesome recipes along the

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;> Don't miss sugar. Finding some awesome recipes along the way. Recently >> made deep fried chicken crumbed in pork rinds combined with Parmesan >> cheese. >> So good. Hmm... this might possibly be the first recipe shared on this >> elist. :) >> >> Anyway to keep on topic, had a s

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les wasting away. If you don't use it, you lose it. Cheers, Stephen From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> on behalf of Piers Williams <piers.willi...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 8:46:35 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re:

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zdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Piers Williams Sent: Tuesday, 20 June 2017 1:30 PM To: ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> Subject: Re: [OT] Sit/stand desk results 'As far as losing weight goes it is all about calories' Read The Case Against Sugar or Pur

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se. >>>>> So good. Hmm... this might possibly be the first recipe shared on this >>>>> elist. :) >>>>> >>>>> Anyway to keep on topic, had a standup desk and my last project, one >>>>> of those motorised ones. Great for

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;>> Anyway to keep on topic, had a standup desk and my last project, one of >>>> those motorised ones. Great for exercise and strengthening but not losing >>>> weight. What you put in your body has way more effect in that regard. You >>>> can lose weight with zero

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 11:18 Stephen Price wrote: > Shall we try to bring religion, politics and favourite operating systems > into the thread next? :) > [image: pasted1] -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

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behalf of Piers Williams <piers.willi...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, 20 June 2017 8:23:29 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Sit/stand desk results OOTT: At the risk of starting a flame war, I'm going to call shenanigans on this one (sorry Bec). Whilst most vegans probably have very health

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your body has way more effect in that regard. You >> can lose weight with zero exercise, but exercise is important for other >> reasons. I.e. Preventing muscles wasting away. If you don't use it, you >> lose it. >> >> Cheers, >> Stephen >>

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losing >>>> weight. What you put in your body has way more effect in that regard. You >>>> can lose weight with zero exercise, but exercise is important for other >>>> reasons. I.e. Preventing muscles wasting away. If you don't use it, you >>>> lose it. >

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gt; those motorised ones. Great for exercise and strengthening but not losing >>> weight. What you put in your body has way more effect in that regard. You >>> can lose weight with zero exercise, but exercise is important for other >>> reasons. I.e. Preventing muscles wasting away. If you don't use it, you >

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sons. I.e. Preventing muscles wasting away. If you don't use it, you > lose it. > > Cheers, > Stephen > -- > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> on > behalf of Piers Williams <piers.willi...@gmail.com> &

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. You >> can lose weight with zero exercise, but exercise is important for other >> reasons. I.e. Preventing muscles wasting away. If you don't use it, you >> lose it. >> >> Cheers, >> Stephen >> ---------------------- >> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-b

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 09:15 Bec C wrote: > Fine. Bloody sociopaths ruined the vegan diet for everyone You seem very alkaline today Bec. David. -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363

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Fine. Bloody sociopaths ruined the vegan diet for everyone On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, Stephen Price wrote: > Rofl > I think he finished something, not started it > > On 20 Jun. 2017 7:03 am, Bec C

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Rofl I think he finished something, not started it On 20 Jun. 2017 7:03 am, Bec C wrote: Lol don't start something On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, David Connors > wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 08:29 Bec C

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Stop eating my food's food. On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 09:03 Bec C wrote: > Lol don't start something > > On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, David Connors wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 08:29 Bec C wrote: >> >>> Yep that podcast is

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Lol don't start something On Tuesday, 20 June 2017, David Connors wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 08:29 Bec C > wrote: > >> Yep that podcast is fairly good. Veganism also works for losing

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 08:29 Bec C wrote: > Yep that podcast is fairly good. Veganism also works for losing weight, > very hard to eat excess calories on a vegan diet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0O_VYcsIk8 -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors |

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tnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> on behalf of Piers Williams <piers.willi...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 8:46:35 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] Sit/stand desk results There are quite a few people in my office now using sit-to-stand desks. I sent a scary article around about a year or so ag

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There are quite a few people in my office now using sit-to-stand desks. I sent a scary article around about a year or so ago about the health issues, but I think it's mostly the availability of reasonable quality converters (Varidesk etc) that's really changed things. I'm between offices too much

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Do they? As a diabetic, I oughta look at this. OTOH being on my feet is a bit contraindicated On 19 Jun. 2017 16:33, "Tony Wright" wrote: > Hi Tom, > > No, not the back for me. They say that your body stops regulating insulin > properly after 4 hours of sitting, and that's

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Hey Tom. No I decided to try it when I joined a new company. I've been itching to try it (and didn't bother when working from home - laziness). I didn't do it for health reasons other that the nebulous "it's better for you to not sit all day". I'm overweight and I was hoping it would make me lose

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Hi Tom, No, not the back for me. They say that your body stops regulating insulin properly after 4 hours of sitting, and that's about when I was feeling unwell/lethargic from sitting. Regards, Tony On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Tom Rutter wrote: > Did you switch to

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Did you switch to this for a specific reason (lower back problem for example)? If so did this help at all in a noticeable way? On Monday, 19 June 2017, Tony Wright wrote: > Hi Tom, > > It changes for me. Sometimes I stand, sometimes I sit. If I feel that I've > been sitting

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Hi Tom, It changes for me. Sometimes I stand, sometimes I sit. If I feel that I've been sitting for too long, I hit the buttons and stand for a while. I'm not regretful for one second that I have the option. Regards, Tony On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Tom Rutter wrote: