Re: software to tag mp3 files?

[Hamit Campos]

Hi. I'm still active. I'm able to call at 4 PM monday. But as soon as 
you let me know what they say I could call them. Thanks.



On 11/8/2017 11:13 AM, John Gurd via Pc-audio wrote:

I've used Tag and Rename for years. It is very rich in features and accessible 
with Jaws. I can't remember how much I paid for it.

http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm

John


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Sent: 04 November 2017 00:45
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Subject: Re: software to tag mp3 files?

I very much look forward to seeing your tutorials.
In the meantime? I’ll use MP3 Tag Studio to get the job done.


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On 3 Nov 2017, at 6:02 pm, Robert Godridge  wrote:

Well, I just did it once and next time when you press the down arrow
you can select it.
The beauty of mp3tag is if you have a folder of files you want to tag,
hit applications key, then press 3 or go down to the mp3tag option in
your context menue and it'll do the entire directory, then select all
and you're done.
I can help somewhat if you like.


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On 11/3/17, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

It’s the ability to do it with multiple files that is needed.
For me I get confused with the conversion process
Where you need to put in a series of characters such as %artist% -
%album% -
%track% - %title%

P.


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also if you don't mind doing each file individually you can edit them
in winamp, go to propperties, alt and 3.


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On 11/3/17, Robert Godridge  wrote:

There's a forum. I've googled all my queeries and I've found
explanations for them. If you mean mp3tag.


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On 11/3/17, Peter Scanlon  wrote:

Like Adam, I have found this program difficult. I wish there was a
tutorial.



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https://www.mp3tag.de/
I wouldn't be without this. Goes nicely into the context menue.


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On 11/3/17, Adam Morris  wrote:

Hi all,

Wondering what software people use apart from iTunes to tag mp3 files
that aren't copied from a cd?

I know of someone who is given files made up by a communityradio
station
that need tagging.


I've tried mp3 tag but haven't had much luck.




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Re: audio interfaces

[Hamit Campos]

I've not had 1 of thoughs. but I have heard a 2 I 2. If that's anything 
to judge buy the sound quality for your mikes will be good. I don't know 
how they are fore play back though.



On 5/25/2017 8:14 AM, Ra-Iwi Smith wrote:

Hay i’m need ing to purchase an external soundcard that has beast like grunt 
and is user friendly/ not software heavy.
wondering if anyones had experience with the focusrite scarlet 2i4.
any input would be helpful

cheers
Ra

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Re: listening to time signals using pc?

[Hamit Campos]

What's this time signal thing anyways? What's it do exactly?


On 5/14/2017 4:30 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
There's absolutely no point listening to a time signal service such as 
WWV on a PC as what you hear would be delayed by the time you hear it 
thus setting the time by such a method would be completely inaccurate.


Still the best way to set time is to tune into WWV/WWVH on a Shortwave 
receiver on 2.5, 5, 10, 15 or 20MHZ, the higher frequency's come in 
well during the afternoon.


WWV was recently upgraded, there was talk of it going off the air.

WWV has been in operation since 1927, impressive.

You can phone WWV/WWVH and hear them that way though again what you 
hear will be delayed at least by a quarter of a second, more likely 
longer.


These are US phone numbers

WWV 3034997111

WWVH 8083354363

You can patch these two different numbers together to simulate exactly 
what you'd hear if you tuned to one of the abovementioned frequency's 
on a Shortwave Radio.


In Australia the best way to set your time piece manually is to find a 
station with an accurate local time signal, I say accurate because 
some are delayed by at least a second owing to satellite links being 
used, ABC being a case in point so that can't always be relied upon.




On 14/05/2017 2:43 PM, Adam Morris wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know of a site or way I can receive a time signal like 
wwv using a pc?


Have tried google but links I found don't work.







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Re: Marley Get Together Bluetooth Speaker

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah That's what I thought when I read the subject line. So how good is 
it? How's the frequency responce? I know you said it had lots of bass. 
But is it smooth cinimatic bass or the loud just boom boom kinda thing 
teens like? Also how does it do with hi frequencies? Is it nice and 
crisp? 1 of the first things I ever try speakers with is Godzilla 1998. 
The first seen where they feed it fish. Cause tthe tornado blast roar 
has a real hi pitched wistle to it that only real good crisp speakers 
can do. Also right there too ya get to try out the bass cause of the 
foot steps.



On 5/19/2017 9:02 AM, Jesse Tregarthen wrote:

I think that's what it is.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 18, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah could it be a play on Bob Marley? Get it? Cause the Marley name? Also 1 of 
his songs was the get together 1. The 1 that says something about let's get 
together and feel alright.



On 5/18/2017 3:24 AM, Jesse Tregarthen wrote:
Hey,

I just recently got this new bluetooth speaker and thought I'd quickly rave 
about it. It is made by a company called Marley and is called Get Together. I 
picked it up because it was in my price range. It cost me $180 at a Canadian 
store called Visions Electronics. The guy said it goes for about $209. This is 
in Canadian dollars. I love the sound of it. It has a good amount of bass and 
is very clear. I also like it because it makes a sound when it turns on, turns 
off and connects to a device. I just thought I'd mention it to anybody who's 
looking for a nice bluetooth speaker. Best,
Jesse Tregarthen

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: Marley Get Together Bluetooth Speaker

[Hamit Campos]

Ah could it be a play on Bob Marley? Get it? Cause the Marley name? Also 
1 of his songs was the get together 1. The 1 that says something about 
let's get together and feel alright.



On 5/18/2017 3:24 AM, Jesse Tregarthen wrote:

Hey,

I just recently got this new bluetooth speaker and thought I'd quickly rave 
about it. It is made by a company called Marley and is called Get Together. I 
picked it up because it was in my price range. It cost me $180 at a Canadian 
store called Visions Electronics. The guy said it goes for about $209. This is 
in Canadian dollars. I love the sound of it. It has a good amount of bass and 
is very clear. I also like it because it makes a sound when it turns on, turns 
off and connects to a device. I just thought I'd mention it to anybody who's 
looking for a nice bluetooth speaker. Best,
Jesse Tregarthen

Sent from my iPhone



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Re: MP3 Is Dead!

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah and in all honesty the MP3 incoder of the LS-14 is pretty good. 
Like I said before I think I'm just jaded because of the PTR1 and 2 then 
the MileStone 311.



On 5/17/2017 1:40 PM, Byron Stephens wrote:
I've been doing my cd, vinyl and tape rips all at 320k-bit, and hear 
nothing wrong. Quite offen some transcode their stuff making it look 
like it's been done at 320k-bit, but it's artificial. I'll continue to 
use the format until suddenly it magicly stops working, but that will 
happen when john and george are back with the beatles and they're 
going back out on tour, or bonn scot of AC DC wakes up from his long 
sleep he's been in since 79. Not gonna happen.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: MP3 Is Dead!


Ah than saddly I guess I am an audio snob then. lol I can hear the 
mp3ness to some MP3s. Fair though some are better than others. But 
meh I prefer PCM WAV thanks. lol Na but maybe the matalicness of the 
PTR incoder jaded me like I said before.



On 5/17/2017 1:30 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:

Geez, such negativity around here!

There is nothing in the world wrong with a 320 k mp3 at 44.1 khz 
stereo.


Listen on a good set of speakers and you will see.  Not as good as a 
lossless file for sure, but unless you're an audio snob, there's 
nothing wrong with it.


and now that the license has expired, you'll see products that 
couldn't offer mp3 magicly gain the ability to encode to it.







On 5/17/2017 12:30 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Yip yip yip yip yahoo like Rush Limbaw says. I love it. Yeah I was 
never a big fan of MP3. But maybe the PTR1's yucky 64 KBPS MP3 
jaded me.



On 5/16/2017 6:14 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yep subject line says everything, the format is dead and no new 
licences will be issued to continue supporting or developing the 
format.


MP3 has had a truly remarkable run when you think about it, almost 
20 years and the format has ben at the heart of changing the way 
we listen to music.


Now there are more efficient formats such as AAC out there and 
Lossless compressed formats such as FLAC, storage space has 
increased and so it goes.


There will be people who use MP3 for a long time to come but those 
will become fewer as more people adopt other methods.







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Re: MP3 Is Dead!

[Hamit Campos]

Ah than saddly I guess I am an audio snob then. lol I can hear the 
mp3ness to some MP3s. Fair though some are better than others. But meh I 
prefer PCM WAV thanks. lol Na but maybe the matalicness of the PTR 
incoder jaded me like I said before.



On 5/17/2017 1:30 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:

Geez, such negativity around here!

There is nothing in the world wrong with a 320 k mp3 at 44.1 khz stereo.

Listen on a good set of speakers and you will see.  Not as good as a 
lossless file for sure, but unless you're an audio snob, there's 
nothing wrong with it.


and now that the license has expired, you'll see products that 
couldn't offer mp3 magicly gain the ability to encode to it.







On 5/17/2017 12:30 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Yip yip yip yip yahoo like Rush Limbaw says. I love it. Yeah I was 
never a big fan of MP3. But maybe the PTR1's yucky 64 KBPS MP3 jaded me.



On 5/16/2017 6:14 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yep subject line says everything, the format is dead and no new 
licences will be issued to continue supporting or developing the 
format.


MP3 has had a truly remarkable run when you think about it, almost 
20 years and the format has ben at the heart of changing the way we 
listen to music.


Now there are more efficient formats such as AAC out there and 
Lossless compressed formats such as FLAC, storage space has 
increased and so it goes.


There will be people who use MP3 for a long time to come but those 
will become fewer as more people adopt other methods.







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Re: MP3 Is Dead!

[Hamit Campos]

Yip yip yip yip yahoo like Rush Limbaw says. I love it. Yeah I was never 
a big fan of MP3. But maybe the PTR1's yucky 64 KBPS MP3 jaded me.



On 5/16/2017 6:14 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yep subject line says everything, the format is dead and no new 
licences will be issued to continue supporting or developing the format.


MP3 has had a truly remarkable run when you think about it, almost 20 
years and the format has ben at the heart of changing the way we 
listen to music.


Now there are more efficient formats such as AAC out there and 
Lossless compressed formats such as FLAC, storage space has increased 
and so it goes.


There will be people who use MP3 for a long time to come but those 
will become fewer as more people adopt other methods.







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Re: Nokia 3310 relaunch: handset unveiled ahead of its mid-June release date | WIRED UK

[Hamit Campos]

Ah sorry I'm commenting on this email so late. But well jokingle or not 
I've heard it said that this fone is out again cause people would want 
it for international travel. What with Donald Trump wanting your social 
media checked and what not when ya come back. So as this is just your 
symple candy bar fone who cares. I don't know how much that plays into 
it or if Nokia had that in mind when bringing it out again but people 
kept saying that on Leo Laport's pod casts.



On 5/4/2017 11:13 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

An interesting read, I had one of these phones for a while around 15 years ago 
I think it was and loved its simplicity however I wouldn’t myself go back to 
using one now and - even suppose I really wanted to - I wouldn’t be able to use 
it as Australia is fazing out or has fazed out many of the frequency’s this 
phone used and still is using.
Anyway a boom for those who just want to use “A Phone”



http://www.wired.co.uk/article/nokia-3310-and-nokia-6-global-launch 



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Re: Olympus LS14

[Hamit Campos]

I think he has it on his site. http://podcasts.ravenswood.org or 
something like that.



On 5/10/2017 11:45 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote:

Where do I find his podcast? Thanks.
Original message:

As for discription of the buttons and what not, Neal gets into some of
this in his podcast.




On 5/10/2017 6:55 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote:

I am looking for its user manual in an accessible format preferably
from a blindness perspective like button description, how to set the
time, record, edit files and delete them, thanks.





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Re: Olympus LS14

[Hamit Campos]

As for discription of the buttons and what not, Neal gets into some of 
this in his podcast.



On 5/10/2017 6:55 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote:
I am looking for its user manual in an accessible format preferably 
from a blindness perspective like button description, how to set the 
time, record, edit files and delete them, thanks.





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Re: Olympus LS14

[Hamit Campos]

Well the time thing is done with the errow keys. It'll give you the 
chance to do it when you first put in the batteries. How ever unless you 
wana try and figure it out and do the counting beeps thing some dudes 
had figured out with the DS 50 better let someone sighted do it. They 
didn't record the british lady saying the hours months and years for it. 
Apparentlyh they did for the newer ones. Cause Neal said that the LS p2 
does speak.



On 5/10/2017 6:55 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote:
I am looking for its user manual in an accessible format preferably 
from a blindness perspective like button description, how to set the 
time, record, edit files and delete them, thanks.





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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

What do you mean by report for them? Well obviously they won't do 
nothing about the PTR1 as it technically doesn't exist anymore. But yeah 
the PTR2 maybe. Thing is to get an updated list of cards. Cause the ones 
on the site are the 2006 ones.



On 5/7/2017 3:58 AM, Aidan wrote:

Perhaps you should report for plextalk and see if they can help you testing.

On 06/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Who are Andre and Anthony? As for the PTR2 it is epic. I'm just saying
that before 1 buys 1 cause you can still buy 1 if you wish. But before
ya do so I think it's best to borrow 1 from a homy which is the gangsta
word for friend and try some CF cards. See if it doesn't do like the
PTR1. Or maybe it's mi PTR1 that has the issue. Cause like I said mine
has rejected 3 CF cards in a row. That's something like 30 dolars down
the John. I don't know why it's being so dam picky all of the sudden.


On 5/6/2017 8:45 AM, Aidan wrote:

Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year.
Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its
put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper,
and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go
that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not
experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the
firmware updates did address issues with the drive.

On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote:

Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired?



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Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
hardware
and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that
PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is
really
not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the
212
as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in
a
package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
it
more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is
the
evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do
great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
is
very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things
with
the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of
all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon
will
hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice
memos,
voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is
actually
so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to
set
recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if
something
is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used
are
there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits.
It
uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks,
and
customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files.
It
have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely
stable
firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for
updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound
louder
than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback
position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable
audio,
e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:

The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now.  I don't
know why they can't solve the battery life issue.

At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:

I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the
NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16
with prolonged use.  The Iphone of course, is also excellent for
listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and
now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I
prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.

The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack horses, when you take
into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.

Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS players could solve
the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone
could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it
uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able
to save the text it scans,  etc.

Regards,

Humber

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Ah the compas would come in verry handy. Just so as 1 knows which way is 
waht. The caluclator too. I use the 1 in my PTR1 here and there. But 
what is a calcugraph?



On 5/7/2017 1:31 PM, Kenny wrote:
Let me ask you a question about this Evo E10 Daisy Digital 
Recorder/Player:


Does it offer integrated functionality to search OOTunes and Wikipedia?

Does it allow you to save any audio stream you do like as Favorites 
for quick access?


Does it allow you to access your NFB and Bookshare content from within 
the player?


Does it allow you to use the beautiful Samantha TTS voice?

I mean having a compass, calculator and calcugraph sounds great for 
someone in school, but how many casual users would ever use these 
features?


Just want to know more about this EVO E10 from someone who owns it.

Do love the fact it comes with 8 GB of internal memory though.

At 01:39 PM 5/5/2017, you wrote:

Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I
agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream
wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I
think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I
have enough players with more in a package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot
now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but
they really do great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most
things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the
most features of all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon
will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms,
voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2)
The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces
or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice
thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it
louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used
are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15
minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and
compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for
copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and
uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds
to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a
large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You
can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of
different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio,
e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:
> The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8
> hours, now.  I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue.
>
> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:
>>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my
>>opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its
>>good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
>>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly
>>degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The
>>Iphone of course, is also excellent for
>>listening to BARD books, but with so many other
>>apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data,
>>plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer
>>to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.
>>
>>The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack
>>horses, when you take into consideration that
>>when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
>>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.
>>
>>Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS
>>players could solve the battery-life issue plus
>>add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could
>>add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM
>>radio, for now it uses the wire of the
>>headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it 
scans,

>> etc.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Humberto
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio
>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
>>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
>>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never
>>seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS
>>player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use i

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Who are Andre and Anthony? As for the PTR2 it is epic. I'm just saying 
that before 1 buys 1 cause you can still buy 1 if you wish. But before 
ya do so I think it's best to borrow 1 from a homy which is the gangsta 
word for friend and try some CF cards. See if it doesn't do like the 
PTR1. Or maybe it's mi PTR1 that has the issue. Cause like I said mine 
has rejected 3 CF cards in a row. That's something like 30 dolars down 
the John. I don't know why it's being so dam picky all of the sudden.



On 5/6/2017 8:45 AM, Aidan wrote:

Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year.
Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its
put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper,
and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go
that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not
experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the
firmware updates did address issues with the drive.

On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote:

Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired?



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware
and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that
PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really
not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212
as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a
package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it
more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the
evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do
great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is
very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with
the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of
all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will
hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos,
voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually
so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set
recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something
is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are
there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It
uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and
customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It
have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable
firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for
updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder
than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback
position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio,
e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:

The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now.  I don't
know why they can't solve the battery life issue.

At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:

I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the
NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16
with prolonged use.  The Iphone of course, is also excellent for
listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and
now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I
prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.

The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack horses, when you take
into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.

Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS players could solve
the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone
could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it
uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able
to save the text it scans,  etc.

Regards,

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never
seen 1 and wa

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Amen to that. Look at how plextalk's still selling the PTR2. Now maybe 
my PTR1's  jaded me. Whith how it's rejected 3 cards in a row. Three in 
a row dam it. I don't understand how people that bought the PTR2 from 08 
to today this verry day are getting buy. If anyone like this is here on 
list and wants to shed some light for me please let me know either here 
or off list. I'd really love to know how 1 justifies $995. I'm not 
bashing. Like you said at the start of your message I too wish they'd 
update the thing. Make a PTR3. Fine keep the CD writer for what ever 
it's worth, but lift the dam limits off the card reader. Cause even 
compact flash is still a thing but it's not the thing of 2006. There are 
128 GB CF cards. I've seen them on Amazon. They also have some tech I 
can't remember the name of right now that Sound Devices also takes 
advantage of that makes them fast. Like dude come on. So how's the PTN2? 
Is the drive loads quieter then the PTN1's drive? I've seen the PTP1 
it's cool. It's a mini PTR1. I still have my ptr1 and it is a shame it's 
rejecting CF cards left and right. I'd love to continue useing it for 
things here and there while it lasts. Though I'd love to get a PTR2. I 
had 1 for a bit. But it went south after a bit. I miiss it. It was epic. 
Though thhis new Cchinese player sounds cool.



On 5/5/2017 1:39 PM, Aidan wrote:

Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I
agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream
wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I
think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I
have enough players with more in a package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot
now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but
they really do great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most
things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the
most features of all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon
will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms,
voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2)
The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces
or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice
thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it
louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used
are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15
minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and
compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for
copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and
uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds
to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a
large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You
can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of
different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio,
e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:

The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8
hours, now.  I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue.

At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:

I read quite a lot and while at home, in my
opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its
good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly
degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The
Iphone of course, is also excellent for
listening to BARD books, but with so many other
apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data,
plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer
to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.

The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack
horses, when you take into consideration that
when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.

Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS
players could solve the battery-life issue plus
add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could
add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM
radio, for now it uses the wire of the
headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans,
etc.

Regards,

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much 
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never 
seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS 
player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. 
What with the app being on my phone.



On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:

Hello Hamit:

Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, except as I said, that it does not 
have Wi-Fi.  I also have a VRS but one of the first generation.  I do not use 
the Milestone for recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus DS-50 for 
that and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice.

The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with a grill in front, rather large 
for the size of the hardware, that plays excellent sound, albeit mono; to hear 
stereo you must use headphones, but either way the sound is remarkable for such 
a small player.  It also has FM radio.

I normally use the NLS player to listen to BARD books at home, but when 
travelling or otherwise away from home, use mostly my Milestone, I prefer it 
due to size and clarity of sound.

Regards,

Humberto

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone
cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming
from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420
died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't
hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of
the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day
sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really
wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and
services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no
more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you
send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes
with it? Thanks.


On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:

I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the 
Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS 
books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi?

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez
Fort White, Florida


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary 
Schindler
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with
radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision
to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and
a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input.

The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as
good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you
don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to
outmoded technology for a small niche market.

If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying
the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.

-Original Message-
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder?


On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:

Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it
and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are
paying for accessible menus with the stream.

The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money
as the stream.

Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books
even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah it's also wider on the IPhone. Also Dain like me could be spoiled 
by hi end audio. lol Not bashing ya Dain. Just remember my story when I 
brought out my PTR1. Which was my favorite. I've been so spoiled by Bose 
that I was like oh yuck what the heck is this? No harsh crisp s's or 
f's. What's going on here? But that was it. I was so use to Bose. Heck I 
had even otherized FS Reader so I'd even been listening to RFB books 
with Bose. So the shock to go back to PTR1. Like I said too, the PTR1 
was my favorite DAISY player. Till the PTR2 came along.



On 5/3/2017 2:29 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Dane:  I guess I am missing something, but I have just finished comparing the sound of my VR Stream to the sound 
of my speaker on my Iphone 6; I fail to hear this "muffleness" that you speak of on the stream!  
Granted: the Iphone is a bit easier on my ears than the VR Stream!  But with the VR Stream (at least is the case 
with mine) it definitely does seem to have the highs (doesn't really sound muffled to my ear!  So the only thing I 
can conclude is this: it is possible that maybe if someone doesn't have good hearing, maybe this is how the VR 
Stream's speaker would sound to a person who has a hearing loss?  Just listened again...and seem to still be able 
to hear the "ses" and Fs" on the stream; have the same internet station on; I'll repeat, I find 
that the Iphone is "easier on the ears"; my guess here is that the VRR Stream's speaker may be smaller 
in size than the speaker on the Iphone?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 1:03 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Sorry but a lot of you still don't seem to get my point.

Yes, the VR Stream is designed with speech in mind that I grant you and
I have absolutely no arguement with that but the internal speaker - even
by speech standards - is not good, very mid-range yes but lacking top so
some people may get confused with say S and F particularly given the
fact that TTS is used a lot of the time.

Most devices these days - Smart Devices are a case in point - have very
clear and chrisp tops that makes listening to music, speech etc very
enjoyable and understandable.

To prove my point, go listen to a Daisy book on your VR Stream and then
- using Voice Dream Reader or something similar - go listen to that book
on your iPhone or whatever and you'll soon hear what I'm talking about.

Now if you like things that way - speech without a distinct top - then
fine! but I think its a great shame that a good speaker is an omission
on the VR Strea. Yep I grant you, the quality is far better than that
found on the first generation of VR Stream.

I've not used a Plextalk Pocket but I have used other Plextalk machines
and the speakers in those are absolutely fantastic.



On 4/05/2017 12:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:

Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker
in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is
that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream.

The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much
money as the stream.

Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard
books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.


On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand
that later firmware updates had fixed this.
Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Strea

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah. But for DTBs though now RFB as it use to be called has an app. 
Bard has an app. So just for books alone I'm not sure 1 can justify 
these things no more. Other than that the VRStream or what I would 
prefer the Plextalk Pocket are just for that alone.



On 5/3/2017 4:56 PM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players 
with radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have 
some vision to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a 
small speaker and a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic 
and auxiliary input.


The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, 
not as good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have 
sight. If you don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to 
have accessibility to outmoded technology for a small niche market.


If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be 
buying the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.


-Original Message- From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder?


On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking 
books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get 
an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding 
speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the 
caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream.


The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much 
money as the stream.


Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard 
books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.


-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to 
understand that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 
44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could 
use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full 
advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of 
high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor 
Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
Of Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability 
to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for 
users of a VR Stream.
P

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone 
cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming 
from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420 
died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't 
hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of 
the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day 
sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really 
wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and 
services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no 
more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you 
send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes 
with it? Thanks.



On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:

I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the 
Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS 
books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi?

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez
Fort White, Florida


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary 
Schindler
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with
radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision
to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and
a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input.

The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as
good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you
don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to
outmoded technology for a small niche market.

If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying
the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.

-Original Message-
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder?


On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:

Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it
and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are
paying for accessible menus with the stream.

The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money
as the stream.

Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books
even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk
Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.


On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand
that later firmware updates had fixed this.
Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable
all-purpose player/recorder.

 Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
wrote:

I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that -
using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so
surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the
line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.


On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings b

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder?


On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books 
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker 
in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is 
that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream.


The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much 
money as the stream.


Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard 
books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.


-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ 
so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to 
be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download 
.
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to 
report

on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player 
are as
slow as some of you guy

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Ah that's right the origenal Stream handeled the Bard Books way before 
the NLS came out with their own player. You're right.



On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books 
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker 
in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is 
that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream.


The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much 
money as the stream.


Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard 
books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.


-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ 
so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to 
be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download 
.
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to 
report

on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
play

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

The only things I can compare to even the clasic Victors and the 
Strattus is tape players. I don't know why HumanWare has chosen that 
tape player quality for though.



On 5/3/2017 10:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I'm telling you now, - regardless of the bit rate - the speaker in the 
Stream could have a better sound, just plug a very average sounding 
spekaer you can get at the discount store and you'll soon see what I 
mean.


I really need to rack my brains to find anything I have here that 
sounds muffled at the top end as the Stream does, can't think of 
anything off hand.


Anyway the Stream's in the past for me now, time to look at the blaze 
ET and of course I'll be interested to hear the speakers in that unit 
though - judging by the one Hims Inc product I've owned - a Voice 
Sense - I'm expecting pretty good sound.




On 3/05/2017 11:16 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Yeah. Now I've not even seen the Blaze. So can't really Judge 1. But 
yeah as good as the Plextalks sound to me sure they're no Bose. But 
meh okay for MP3 at 32 kbps. I think this is why most DAISY players 
ain't real good. Cause DAISY books. Talking Books are mostly recorded 
at kinda low quality. Even for recording. If you're okay with CD 
audio, than fine. But none of these do Blu-Ray audio. Which is 96 KHZ 
at 24 bits. Or even better 192 KHZ. Oh and no XLR or Phantum Power. 
What I'm basicaly saying is that yeah there's loads and loads to nit 
pick and rightly so cause these things are so dam expensive but meh 
they are what they are and if you're okay with that what evs. Though 
now you could use the Bard app. I don't know where you are but here 
in the USA you can now use the app for Learning Ally which use to be 
RFB So these aren't so needed no more.



On 5/3/2017 9:05 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who 
enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about 
how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad 
press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the 
next few days and report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth 
functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a 
future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, 
so can the stream.  But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm 
certainly ok with it.


I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online 
services like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and 
put them on the stream that way.  It's good to know there are 
multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done.



On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to 
understand that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts 
or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a 
reasonable all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note 
that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 
44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could 
use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full 
advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of 
high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor 
Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
Of Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very 
serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one 
wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio 
stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability 
to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for 
users of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

That's exactly right.


On 5/3/2017 10:41 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Let's remember when you buy the Victor stream you are paying for a 
player that plays specially formatted books with a few features for 
added convinceconveniences


-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ 
so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to 
be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download 
.
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to 
report

on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player 
are as
slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that 
this
is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out 
for

some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but
maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that
time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my 
experiences.







On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed wi

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah. Now I've not even seen the Blaze. So can't really Judge 1. But 
yeah as good as the Plextalks sound to me sure they're no Bose. But meh 
okay for MP3 at 32 kbps. I think this is why most DAISY players ain't 
real good. Cause DAISY books. Talking Books are mostly recorded at kinda 
low quality. Even for recording. If you're okay with CD audio, than 
fine. But none of these do Blu-Ray audio. Which is 96 KHZ at 24 bits. Or 
even better 192 KHZ. Oh and no XLR or Phantum Power. What I'm basicaly 
saying is that yeah there's loads and loads to nit pick and rightly so 
cause these things are so dam expensive but meh they are what they are 
and if you're okay with that what evs. Though now you could use the Bard 
app. I don't know where you are but here in the USA you can now use the 
app for Learning Ally which use to be RFB So these aren't so needed 
no more.



On 5/3/2017 9:05 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys 
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff 
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the 
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days 
and report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is 
something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some 
of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But 
i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.


I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services 
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on 
the stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of 
getting a particular job like that done.



On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ 
so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to 
be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download 
.
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to 
report

on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk 
Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later 
firmware updates had fixed this.
Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in 
recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose 
player/recorder.

Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:

I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this 
function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be 
reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in 
method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.


On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast 
quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.

Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve 
discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - 
given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a 
good quality audio stream.
And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder 
why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage 
devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other 
device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this 
handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a 
VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, 
don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users 
to download .
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that.


On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet 
radio stations.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't 
have the issue or they just axepted it.


On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:

I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report
on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as
slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this
is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for
some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but
maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that
time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.






On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those
of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi
transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says
that reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that
little package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on
my purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this,
a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a
small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for
years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have
Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check
for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up
to date

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

I didn't know Samsung makes memory cards though? Cool.


On 5/2/2017 6:09 PM, Kenny wrote:
Try looking up Pny, Samsung and SanDisk  SD cards on Amazon.com. 
Purchased mines during a Black Friday sale on Amazon.


At 05:37 PM 5/2/2017, you wrote:
Dude where did ya get a 256 GB SD card? The VRS allowed it too? 
That's epic!



On 5/2/2017 5:33 PM, Kenny wrote:
WOW! I've owned a VRS 2nd gen for over 4 years and it's my most used 
piece of equipment in my home.


Having my favorite OTR stations bookmarked as Favorites along with 
several other Live audio streams like CNN, this thing is en valuable 
to me.


Listen to my local newspaper and favorite print publications via NFB 
Newsline every single day on my VRS. Nothing like having the 
Samantha voice read to you aloud the morning news or something from 
Reader's Digest, Popular Science or WebMD the Magazine.


Have download some nice ebooks from my Bookshare account to my VRS 
so Samantha can read me a nice bedtime story every night.


I have my VRS plugged via 3.5" jack directly into my MagicBox mini 
Bluetooth speaker and it sounds great. If I carry it around, I have 
some headphones plugged up in it and it sound still great. Rarely do 
I listen to it with the internal speaker.


Even have downloaded some DV (Described Video) content to a 256 GB 
SD card inserted to my VRS to have even more entertainment at my 
fingertips 24/7.


With the recent v4.83 upgrade, the automatic clock sync works 
fantastic now. My Stream humgs like a fine tuned car.


The sluggishness you experienced with it maybe more related to your 
network, not the VRS?


The only 2 things I would want to change is to give it Bluetooth 
connectivity and more internal storage. Other than that it's my 
favorite hardware audio player.


At 08:32 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if 
I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those of

some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that 
little

package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment 
on my

purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a 
bit of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check 
for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR 
Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Dude where did ya get a 256 GB SD card? The VRS allowed it too? That's epic!


On 5/2/2017 5:33 PM, Kenny wrote:
WOW! I've owned a VRS 2nd gen for over 4 years and it's my most used 
piece of equipment in my home.


Having my favorite OTR stations bookmarked as Favorites along with 
several other Live audio streams like CNN, this thing is en valuable 
to me.


Listen to my local newspaper and favorite print publications via NFB 
Newsline every single day on my VRS. Nothing like having the Samantha 
voice read to you aloud the morning news or something from Reader's 
Digest, Popular Science or WebMD the Magazine.


Have download some nice ebooks from my Bookshare account to my VRS so 
Samantha can read me a nice bedtime story every night.


I have my VRS plugged via 3.5" jack directly into my MagicBox mini 
Bluetooth speaker and it sounds great. If I carry it around, I have 
some headphones plugged up in it and it sound still great. Rarely do I 
listen to it with the internal speaker.


Even have downloaded some DV (Described Video) content to a 256 GB SD 
card inserted to my VRS to have even more entertainment at my 
fingertips 24/7.


With the recent v4.83 upgrade, the automatic clock sync works 
fantastic now. My Stream humgs like a fine tuned car.


The sluggishness you experienced with it maybe more related to your 
network, not the VRS?


The only 2 things I would want to change is to give it Bluetooth 
connectivity and more internal storage. Other than that it's my 
favorite hardware audio player.


At 08:32 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm 
going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -

I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Ah okay, thanks.


On 5/2/2017 11:18 AM, Laz wrote:

Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io

It has over 450 members and going strong.

Laz

On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff,
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for
Blind devices?


On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though
I've had it for only 24 hours.

I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.

I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really
like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of
that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected
to the Internet.

Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set
of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going
to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit
of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its
good to
know I have a reliable backup.





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Re: Latest FS Cast

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah that was cool. I was verry surprised at the quality.


On 5/2/2017 12:37 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Worth the listen as its been produced on one of the new ElBraille 
machines from Freedom Scientific using the excellent Audio Studio 
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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Ah okay.


On 5/2/2017 10:16 AM, john schwery wrote:

Hamit, I'm not sure.  BSt is mostly American.

At 10:02 AM 5/2/2017, you wrote:

Are these UK lists though? Cause the Roil Post sounds like a UK thing.


On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote:
Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an 
EBay for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound 
of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a 
good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much 
prefer an external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
Of Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker 
for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but 
then

again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
transceiver

in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that 
little

package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment 
on my

purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it 
is in

most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however 
- having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a 
bit of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the 
"Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up 
to date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR 
Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for 
that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
great

entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use 
myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even 
though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
good to

know I have a reliable backup.




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John

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Are these UK lists though? Cause the Roil Post sounds like a UK thing.


On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote:
Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay 
for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm 
going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those of

some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream 
box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -

I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
great

entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself 
but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even 
though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
good to

know I have a reliable backup.





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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Ah cool. Thanks.


On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote:
Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay 
for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm 
going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those of

some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream 
box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -

I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
great

entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself 
but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even 
though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
good to

know I have a reliable backup.





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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah like I said the 1 thing I give the victors is the fact that they 
play a whole bunch of formats. But what's the point of it being able to 
play FLAC for instance if the speaker ain't hi fy enough nor are the 
headphone pres? Meh maybe I'm just too spoiled by Bose. Cause when I 
brought out my PTR1 just for fun last summer it was kinda meh to my 
ears. But The Victors are still more meh to me. Saddly even the Strattus 
that I have. I've not heard the Stream 2. So who really knows about that 
1. But for books maybe they're okay.



On 5/1/2017 11:41 PM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

I have the Victor Stream 2nd gen; this is my third. For what I use it for -- 
reading books -- it's great! I can create .mp3 files of books using K1000 or 
download talking books or audible books. I don't use the wireless feature. You 
can connect an external speaker using a patch cord; it works great! I use the 
In-motion speaker; I have my Victor connected to it. I also use headphones or 
the little internal speaker. It isn't perfect; I'd love for it to have 
Bluetooth. But I'm quite happy with my Stream.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah the audio is kinda meh. You're right Dain. An IOS device and or
especially a samsung device do sound better. Ah I can hear the apple
fans now. How dare you? Did you just dare with a streight face tell me a
samsung device sounds loads better than an IPhone? Yeah I did. Kinda off
this topic but I noted the difference with my nephew Jonathan's note
phone. Now the quality thing. Could thhis be cause it's for DAISY books
for the most part? But I'm not sure about that cause Plextalk is better.
The PTP1 sounded better to me when I saw them at the NFB national
convention in 2013. I was also shocked that the PTP1 aka the Plextalk
pocket looks so much like it's a mini PTR1. But then to get back to the
topic at hand well at the time at least the streem 1 was such a
prediction of the Strattus players. How does the Streem do connected to
an external speaker though? To me the headphone pres of the strattus and
the Clasic ain't that good.They too are meh. Exeptable I suppose but meh
not hi fy.


On 5/1/2017 8:09 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

If you have nothing to compare the speaker of the VR Stream to then
yep its probably very good audio however I have plenty of devices
around my house - roughly the same size - which I can compare the
Stream to and - given that - I can tell you that audio from the
internal speaker of the Stream is not good, is muffled and should be -
in my view - better than it is given other basic devices are these days.

You mention listening to music through headphones etc and you're quite
right as you get the full benefit of better audio however I do invite
you - if you haven't already done so - to listen to music through the
internal speaker of say an iPhone 6S or a Samsung Galaxy S6 and you'll
soon hear a huge difference.

Again no, not an ideal listening environment but its certainly a vast
improvement on what the Stream gives you and through a smaller speaker.

I will say however that the audio from the second generation of stream
is quite an improvement upon that of the first generation.



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set
of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going
to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to ma

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah that's another point. Why would you listen to music with that 1 
mono speaker anyways? I'd use ear buds at least. Just cause music is stereo.



On 5/1/2017 7:28 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it 
into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.






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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah the audio is kinda meh. You're right Dain. An IOS device and or 
especially a samsung device do sound better. Ah I can hear the apple 
fans now. How dare you? Did you just dare with a streight face tell me a 
samsung device sounds loads better than an IPhone? Yeah I did. Kinda off 
this topic but I noted the difference with my nephew Jonathan's note 
phone. Now the quality thing. Could thhis be cause it's for DAISY books 
for the most part? But I'm not sure about that cause Plextalk is better. 
The PTP1 sounded better to me when I saw them at the NFB national 
convention in 2013. I was also shocked that the PTP1 aka the Plextalk 
pocket looks so much like it's a mini PTR1. But then to get back to the 
topic at hand well at the time at least the streem 1 was such a 
prediction of the Strattus players. How does the Streem do connected to 
an external speaker though? To me the headphone pres of the strattus and 
the Clasic ain't that good.They too are meh. Exeptable I suppose but meh 
not hi fy.



On 5/1/2017 8:09 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
If you have nothing to compare the speaker of the VR Stream to then 
yep its probably very good audio however I have plenty of devices 
around my house - roughly the same size - which I can compare the 
Stream to and - given that - I can tell you that audio from the 
internal speaker of the Stream is not good, is muffled and should be - 
in my view - better than it is given other basic devices are these days.


You mention listening to music through headphones etc and you're quite 
right as you get the full benefit of better audio however I do invite 
you - if you haven't already done so - to listen to music through the 
internal speaker of say an iPhone 6S or a Samsung Galaxy S6 and you'll 
soon hear a huge difference.


Again no, not an ideal listening environment but its certainly a vast 
improvement on what the Stream gives you and through a smaller speaker.


I will say however that the audio from the second generation of stream 
is quite an improvement upon that of the first generation.




On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set 
of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going 
to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for 
Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really 
like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of 
that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected 
to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set 
of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going 
to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
good to

know I have a reliable backup.








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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either 
didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report 
on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon 
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player 
won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as 
some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this is just 
now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time 
now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I 
skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm 
not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.







On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
that reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
package.

Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.









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[Hamit Campos]

What unets are these you say have better WIFI then the Streem 2?


On 5/1/2017 11:24 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi,
Oh no it doesnt.
I bet they don't wanna host the intire world's streaming load. Smile
And some libraries have a super bad transfer speed. Like the Danish one. Grin
But to be honest this baby now is quite some years old, so what can we expect?
But it reports bad connection quality, where all other units shows lots of 
signal.

Best regards
Brian

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Sendt: 1. maj 2017 16:44
Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
Emne: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

In addition to what you said about the slow download speed of the Victor stream 
second generation, I feel that the chip for the wireless receiver could be more 
sensitive. Another thing I believe is that the internet streams seem to go 
through a server controlled by Humanware for the most part. If there is a 
problem for some reason with there server, the machine locks up even though you 
are connected to your router. that being said, it seems to be the best all 
around device in it's class for the money!


-Original Message-
From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most 
respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having 
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an 
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held 
amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, 
pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have 
everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the 
downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my 
network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the 
firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a 
lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't 
bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - 
but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world 
of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a 
couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the 
Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my 
newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a 
reliable backup.






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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

That is the yick thing for me with Blind devices. They don't make them 
truely powerfull. Well I'm more a plextalk guy then Victor. So I've 
always had bones with them. In 06 when they made the PTR2 they didn't do 
loads of things that would've made it epic. For starters the USB 1.1 
thingy. Dude USB 2 was a thing in 2006 was it not? Also the CF card 
thing. Dude really only 6 GB? Get rid of that limit homies. Now as I was 
bairly getting into the geeky stuff about computers I don't know how hi 
Compact Flash cards went then. Believe it or not, the PTR2 is still sold 
to this day just like that. Not sure how the Pocket is as I've not 
messed with it. I do have a Strattus 12M as we were origenally talking 
Victors. Meh it's what it is. I will giv it this though it can play the 
FS JAWS DVDs. Oh and Victors also play the ITunes N4A format. Which is 
another bone to pick with Plextalk. I like them more. Plextalks sound 
clearer to me. The speakers always seemed to have better frequency 
responce. Sure now they are kinda ick to me now that I've been spoiled 
with Bose quality. lol



On 5/1/2017 11:25 AM, Aidan wrote:

Yes but that shouldn't be an excuse. These companies must wake up. I
no of a manufacture who does allot better in hardware and wich players
wifi is much stronger. Soon it will be able to record internet radio
and its much cheaper. Also humanware is very slow to update, fix bugs,
and new features. All new promts are now spoken by heather, though
they claim the stream is one of the players with human speech, well
these days they may just as well remove the human voice altogether,
since they don't seem to want to change these promts to speak with it
any longer.

On 01/05/2017, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

Ah! well you've probably hit the nail right on the head when it comes to
the download speed if everything goes through the Humanware server.

Yep, the Wireless chip seems a little outdated but after all! we're
talking all things Humanware and for the blind here aren't we .



On 2/05/2017 12:43 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:

In addition to what you said about the slow download speed of the
Victor stream second generation, I feel that the chip for the wireless
receiver could be more sensitive. Another thing I believe is that the
internet streams seem to go through a server controlled by Humanware
for the most part. If there is a problem for some reason with there
server, the machine locks up even though you are connected to your
router. that being said, it seems to be the best all around device in
it's class for the money!


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.




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Re: Bose Soundlink Mini II: Initial Impressions

[Hamit Campos]

Yes there was a Cine Mate. They haven't updated that line though.


On 4/12/2017 4:08 AM, Gary wrote:
I think that Bose had a Sign mate system, but they do have some 
surround systems.


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 5:05 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink Mini II: Initial Impressions

Yes AptX has been out for quite some time, no excuse for Bose not
adopting it when just about every other manufacturer of standing has,
the cheaper company's like Logitech and so on haven't but then again
they market to those who love gimmicks and - on the whole - aren't
interested in quality stuff.

I thought Bose did have a surround-sound system of some kind, I'm sure a
list member has talked about it at different times.



On 20/03/2017 7:14 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Was APTX a thing when the Mini 2 came out though? That's my beef with 
Bose too. They don't still have a 7.1 life style system. Let alone an 
epic Dolby Atmos 7.1.4 system.



On 3/19/2017 5:55 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!

I saw the Bose Soundlink Mini II for the first time today and I came 
away satisfied with what I'd heard.


I owned the original Bose Soundlink Mini speaker which I thought to 
be very good, a little bass heavy - as Bose products are - but an 
incredibly powerful sounding unit for the size.


The Soundlink Mini II sounds very similar though the mid range seems 
to have a little more presence which adds to the subtlety and the 
charm of the sound.


Its worth noting the differences between the original Soundlink Mini 
and newer model.


The Soundlink Mini didn't have a TTS - Text To Speech - module 
built-in whereas the Soundlink Mini II does and one of the nice 
features here is that - when powered up - the soundlink Mini II 
tells you what device it has paired with, something that no other 
Bluetooth speaker I've ever owned has done - I don't think even the 
Jawbone Jambox did that - so a very nice touch particularly if you 
plan to use the Mini II with multiple speakers.


The Mini II can be charged from a USB power source - whether that be 
a power adapter or powerbank - whereas the original Bose Soundlink 
Mini could not, you had to carry about the 12 volt AC adapter.


Build quality is about the same, the nice rugged alaminium body 
though I'd still recommend a carry case or rubber sleeve if you plan 
to carry this beast about.


The original Mini had a dedicated Aux-In source button whereas the 
button has disappeared on the newer model, connecting a patch cord 
to the Aux-In socket automatically switches the source to that mode.


The Mini II has a microphone so can be used as a convenient hands 
free speakerphone with your paired device, unfortunately I wasn't in 
a position to try out this feature.


The Bose Soundlink Mini II still comes at a premium price of nearly 
300 Australian dollars but you certainly get what you pay for with 
this little mite if you're wanting a powerful sound.


I still have a few gripes with Bose and one of the main being the 
decision by Bose not to use AptX decoding on any of their speakers, 
something that IOS users probably won't bother about but Android 
users are probably used to by now, having AptX makes all the 
difference if your passion is to listen to music with all its detail 
and perhaps the thought from Bose is that - with such a speaker as 
this - you can't hear all the detail?







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Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

[Hamit Campos]

Ah okay. So that 1 has a speach synth like the DM4 and 2 did?
On 3/24/2017 7:35 AM, Aidan wrote:

There is model just dm7, but not in the US, for Europe.

On 23/03/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:

The 720? Or is there a plane DM 7?


On 3/23/2017 6:51 AM, Aidan wrote:

Yes, the dm7 also don't have podcasts, wich is a pity, as the dm5 have
it, but now is discontinued. But the nice thing is dm7 have synthetic
speech and skedular and stil have the music player. But they also
removed the random feature and kept repeat though. But you no longer
have to set a sertin setting like on the dm5 to read file names. It
just does it automaticly.

On 22/03/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have no idea why they cut it out from the 720. You could drop files
into the podcast folder yourself of course. But the ideal thing is that.
Do the new DMs

even come with the software? I find it odd that the LS recorders
don't
. Because it also helped with the time thing.
On 3/22/2017 11:58 AM, Jim Portillo wrote:

Never quite understood the Podcast folder.
What did people use it for, or how did they use it?
Jim


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit
Campos
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

Note on the 720 though that the podcast folder is gone. the 620 was the
last
DM to have it.


On 3/22/2017 6:55 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Tim:

Does the 720 have voice support?

Thanks all over the place.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
JOHN
RIEHL
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:40 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: RE: Best olympus accessible recorder.

I've also used the dm-720 and I agree with this assessment.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim
Noonan
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:21 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

If you want small and convenient, there are too recent releases:

The DM-720 which is focused on voice recordings, with quite a few
features
and not bad sound; and

The Ls-P2 which is nearly as small as the 720 and 520 and 620 but
supports
96/24 and has 90 degrees XY mics plus the central Tri-mic for bass.

Both support setting time and date independently.

The LS-p2 is not fantastic as a quality field recorder, with some boom
eq
issues around mid bass, but for its size and the Voice Guidance, its
worth
looking at. I haven't done much testing with external mics, but
suspect
it
will be pretty good in that regard.

If you knew the DM-7, then this is similar format and better quality.

Sadly it only has one bass roll off level, that is too aggressive for
my
tastes.

If you have to choose between the DM-720 and the LS-P2, the 720 is
quite
a
nice note-taking device, and substantially less expensive than the
LS-P2

Another benefit of the LS-P2 is that it supports output to Bluetooth
speakers and headphones, but the implementation is not very good - for
example it only seems to pair with one device at a time, and I
couldn't

get

it working with my Air Pods.

Regards
Tim

On 22 Mar 2017, at 8:26 am, JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net> wrote:

It depends on what you want to do. I'e never used the LS-100. The
DM-420

or

520 are, for my money, the best Olympus recorders if you want a
recorder

but

aren't concerned about phantom power, etc. The DM-620 is okay but is
less
straightforward to operate. The Dm-720 isn't bad either. Again, it
depends
on what you want. None of the recorders I've used let you set the time
and
date by voice.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Noseworthy
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:14 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Best olympus accessible recorder.

Hi Gang:



What is the best accessible olympus recorder out there today.



thanks all over the place gang.







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Consultant  Speaker  Coach

Phone:   +61 419 779 669
Email:   t...@timnoonan.com.au
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Re: Bose Soundlink Mini II: Initial Impressions

[Hamit Campos]

Ya got it right.


On 3/23/2017 3:33 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I don’t have one of these in front of me - not now at any rate - so can’t 
exactly remember the control layout precisely.
If I recall correctly, the button on the top left turns on the power and the 
button to the right of that is the “Pairing” button which you use to pair 
another device.


On 23 Mar 2017, at 7:57 am, Fred Quick  wrote:

I just received mine a few minutes ago. Nice solid metal construction. Could
someone give me a mini startup hint? Found the buttons on the top but can't
get it to turn on. Thanks.

Fred

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders
Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:51 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink Mini II: Initial Impressions

Hi!
NOt yet.
I was going to do that but something went wrong so i have to try that again.
/A

20 mars 2017 kl. 13:23 skrev Dane Trethowan :

Have you tried using the Hands free Speakerphone facility yet? If you've

tried it then can other people hear you clearly?



On 20/03/2017 11:03 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Well i have this little beast.
Its really great for that size.
/AD

19 mars 2017 kl. 10:55 skrev Dane Trethowan :

Hi!

I saw the Bose Soundlink Mini II for the first time today and I came

away satisfied with what I'd heard.

I owned the original Bose Soundlink Mini speaker which I thought to be

very good, a little bass heavy - as Bose products are - but an incredibly
powerful sounding unit for the size.

The Soundlink Mini II sounds very similar though the mid range seems to

have a little more presence which adds to the subtlety and the charm of the
sound.

Its worth noting the differences between the original Soundlink Mini and

newer model.

The Soundlink Mini didn't have a TTS - Text To Speech - module built-in

whereas the Soundlink Mini II does and one of the nice features here is that
- when powered up - the soundlink Mini II tells you what device it has
paired with, something that no other Bluetooth speaker I've ever owned has
done - I don't think even the Jawbone Jambox did that - so a very nice touch
particularly if you plan to use the Mini II with multiple speakers.

The Mini II can be charged from a USB power source - whether that be a

power adapter or powerbank - whereas the original Bose Soundlink Mini could
not, you had to carry about the 12 volt AC adapter.

Build quality is about the same, the nice rugged alaminium body though

I'd still recommend a carry case or rubber sleeve if you plan to carry this
beast about.

The original Mini had a dedicated Aux-In source button whereas the

button has disappeared on the newer model, connecting a patch cord to the
Aux-In socket automatically switches the source to that mode.

The Mini II has a microphone so can be used as a convenient hands free

speakerphone with your paired device, unfortunately I wasn't in a position
to try out this feature.

The Bose Soundlink Mini II still comes at a premium price of nearly 300

Australian dollars but you certainly get what you pay for with this little
mite if you're wanting a powerful sound.

I still have a few gripes with Bose and one of the main being the

decision by Bose not to use AptX decoding on any of their speakers,
something that IOS users probably won't bother about but Android users are
probably used to by now, having AptX makes all the difference if your
passion is to listen to music with all its detail and perhaps the thought
from Bose is that - with such a speaker as this - you can't hear all the
detail?










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Re: SV: Bose Soundlink Mini II: Initial Impressions

[Hamit Campos]

Oooo I love love love love the SoundLink III. My sister Johana had 
1. It was epic. For music and with all the bass for film. Godzilla 
1998's tornado blast roar sounded epic on it. Cause when it does it 
there's this hi pitched wistle kinda squeal at the start of it and the 
SL III reprodused this verry well. Too bad my nephew Jonathan messed it up.



On 3/23/2017 8:59 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
The Bose Soundlink - or Bose Soundlink III given its proper name - is 
a bigger unit than the Mini and thus I don't compare the two because 
they do sound obviously different given their size.


I had a Soundlink III and enjoyed it though the Soundlink III - like 
just about every other Bose product on Planet earth - suffers from 
that Bose trademark like over saturated bass which colours the sound 
in my view.


A lot of people like this sort of thing and I wouldn't say the Bose 
Soundlink III is a horrible speaker because it certainly isn't that 
but if you appreciate your music through a good Hi-Fi system when 
you're at your home then you could certainly do better with something 
else like the B T7 and a few others.


The Bose Soundlink III has been around a fair while now so I'm 
wondering whether Bose will update this model as they did with the 
Soundlink Mini? Certainly the Soundlink is due for an update, most 
Bluetooth speakers have some sort of transport control but the 
Soundlink III does not.


I appreciate the power of the Soundlink III certainly and the control 
layout, simple and logical.




On 23/03/2017 8:32 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi,
There is also the Bose SoundLink Bluetooth 3 which is better suited 
for music.


Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
Trethowan

Sendt: 23. marts 2017 08:33
Til: PC Audio Discussion List 
Emne: Re: Bose Soundlink Mini II: Initial Impressions

I don’t have one of these in front of me - not now at any rate - so 
can’t exactly remember the control layout precisely.
If I recall correctly, the button on the top left turns on the power 
and the button to the right of that is the “Pairing” button which you 
use to pair another device.



On 23 Mar 2017, at 7:57 am, Fred Quick  wrote:

I just received mine a few minutes ago. Nice solid metal construction.
Could someone give me a mini startup hint? Found the buttons on the
top but can't get it to turn on. Thanks.

Fred

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Anders Holmberg
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 5:51 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink Mini II: Initial Impressions

Hi!
NOt yet.
I was going to do that but something went wrong so i have to try 
that again.

/A
20 mars 2017 kl. 13:23 skrev Dane Trethowan 
:


Have you tried using the Hands free Speakerphone facility yet? If
you've

tried it then can other people hear you clearly?



On 20/03/2017 11:03 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Well i have this little beast.
Its really great for that size.
/AD
19 mars 2017 kl. 10:55 skrev Dane Trethowan 
:


Hi!

I saw the Bose Soundlink Mini II for the first time today and I
came

away satisfied with what I'd heard.

I owned the original Bose Soundlink Mini speaker which I thought to
be

very good, a little bass heavy - as Bose products are - but an
incredibly powerful sounding unit for the size.

The Soundlink Mini II sounds very similar though the mid range
seems to

have a little more presence which adds to the subtlety and the charm
of the sound.

Its worth noting the differences between the original Soundlink
Mini and

newer model.

The Soundlink Mini didn't have a TTS - Text To Speech - module
built-in

whereas the Soundlink Mini II does and one of the nice features here
is that
- when powered up - the soundlink Mini II tells you what device it has
paired with, something that no other Bluetooth speaker I've ever owned
has done - I don't think even the Jawbone Jambox did that - so a very
nice touch particularly if you plan to use the Mini II with multiple 
speakers.

The Mini II can be charged from a USB power source - whether that
be a

power adapter or powerbank - whereas the original Bose Soundlink Mini
could not, you had to carry about the 12 volt AC adapter.

Build quality is about the same, the nice rugged alaminium body
though

I'd still recommend a carry case or rubber sleeve if you plan to carry
this beast about.

The original Mini had a dedicated Aux-In source button whereas the

button has disappeared on the newer model, connecting a patch cord to
the Aux-In socket automatically switches the source to that mode.

The Mini II has a microphone so can be used as a convenient hands
free

speakerphone with your paired device, unfortunately I wasn't in a
position to try out this feature.

The Bose Soundlink Mini II still comes at a premium 

Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

[Hamit Campos]

The 720? Or is there a plane DM 7?


On 3/23/2017 6:51 AM, Aidan wrote:

Yes, the dm7 also don't have podcasts, wich is a pity, as the dm5 have
it, but now is discontinued. But the nice thing is dm7 have synthetic
speech and skedular and stil have the music player. But they also
removed the random feature and kept repeat though. But you no longer
have to set a sertin setting like on the dm5 to read file names. It
just does it automaticly.

On 22/03/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have no idea why they cut it out from the 720. You could drop files
into the podcast folder yourself of course. But the ideal thing is that.
Do the new DMs

   even come with the software? I find it odd that the LS recorders don't
. Because it also helped with the time thing.
On 3/22/2017 11:58 AM, Jim Portillo wrote:

Never quite understood the Podcast folder.
What did people use it for, or how did they use it?
Jim


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

Note on the 720 though that the podcast folder is gone. the 620 was the
last
DM to have it.


On 3/22/2017 6:55 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Tim:

Does the 720 have voice support?

Thanks all over the place.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JOHN
RIEHL
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:40 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: RE: Best olympus accessible recorder.

I've also used the dm-720 and I agree with this assessment.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim
Noonan
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:21 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

If you want small and convenient, there are too recent releases:

The DM-720 which is focused on voice recordings, with quite a few
features
and not bad sound; and

The Ls-P2 which is nearly as small as the 720 and 520 and 620 but
supports
96/24 and has 90 degrees XY mics plus the central Tri-mic for bass.

Both support setting time and date independently.

The LS-p2 is not fantastic as a quality field recorder, with some boom
eq
issues around mid bass, but for its size and the Voice Guidance, its
worth
looking at. I haven't done much testing with external mics, but suspect
it
will be pretty good in that regard.

If you knew the DM-7, then this is similar format and better quality.

Sadly it only has one bass roll off level, that is too aggressive for my
tastes.

If you have to choose between the DM-720 and the LS-P2, the 720 is quite
a
nice note-taking device, and substantially less expensive than the LS-P2

Another benefit of the LS-P2 is that it supports output to Bluetooth
speakers and headphones, but the implementation is not very good - for
example it only seems to pair with one device at a time, and I couldn't

get

it working with my Air Pods.

Regards
Tim

On 22 Mar 2017, at 8:26 am, JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net> wrote:

It depends on what you want to do. I'e never used the LS-100. The DM-420

or

520 are, for my money, the best Olympus recorders if you want a recorder

but

aren't concerned about phantom power, etc. The DM-620 is okay but is
less
straightforward to operate. The Dm-720 isn't bad either. Again, it
depends
on what you want. None of the recorders I've used let you set the time
and
date by voice.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Noseworthy
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:14 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Best olympus accessible recorder.

Hi Gang:



What is the best accessible olympus recorder out there today.



thanks all over the place gang.







Tim Noonan
Consultant  Speaker  Coach

Phone:   +61 419 779 669
Email:   t...@timnoonan.com.au
Skype:   VoiceReadings
Twitter: twitter.com/TimNoonan

Coaching & Consulting:  www.timnoonan.com.au
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Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

[Hamit Campos]

I have no idea why they cut it out from the 720. You could drop files 
into the podcast folder yourself of course. But the ideal thing is that. 
Do the new DMs


 even come with the software? I find it odd that the LS recorders don't 
. Because it also helped with the time thing.

On 3/22/2017 11:58 AM, Jim Portillo wrote:

Never quite understood the Podcast folder.
What did people use it for, or how did they use it?
Jim


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

Note on the 720 though that the podcast folder is gone. the 620 was the last
DM to have it.


On 3/22/2017 6:55 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Tim:

Does the 720 have voice support?

Thanks all over the place.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JOHN
RIEHL
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:40 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: RE: Best olympus accessible recorder.

I've also used the dm-720 and I agree with this assessment.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim
Noonan
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:21 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

If you want small and convenient, there are too recent releases:

The DM-720 which is focused on voice recordings, with quite a few features
and not bad sound; and

The Ls-P2 which is nearly as small as the 720 and 520 and 620 but supports
96/24 and has 90 degrees XY mics plus the central Tri-mic for bass.

Both support setting time and date independently.

The LS-p2 is not fantastic as a quality field recorder, with some boom eq
issues around mid bass, but for its size and the Voice Guidance, its worth
looking at. I haven't done much testing with external mics, but suspect it
will be pretty good in that regard.

If you knew the DM-7, then this is similar format and better quality.

Sadly it only has one bass roll off level, that is too aggressive for my
tastes.

If you have to choose between the DM-720 and the LS-P2, the 720 is quite a
nice note-taking device, and substantially less expensive than the LS-P2

Another benefit of the LS-P2 is that it supports output to Bluetooth
speakers and headphones, but the implementation is not very good - for
example it only seems to pair with one device at a time, and I couldn't

get

it working with my Air Pods.

Regards
Tim

On 22 Mar 2017, at 8:26 am, JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net> wrote:

It depends on what you want to do. I'e never used the LS-100. The DM-420

or

520 are, for my money, the best Olympus recorders if you want a recorder

but

aren't concerned about phantom power, etc. The DM-620 is okay but is less
straightforward to operate. The Dm-720 isn't bad either. Again, it depends
on what you want. None of the recorders I've used let you set the time and
date by voice.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Noseworthy
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:14 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Best olympus accessible recorder.

Hi Gang:



What is the best accessible olympus recorder out there today.



thanks all over the place gang.







Tim Noonan
Consultant  Speaker  Coach

Phone:   +61 419 779 669
Email:   t...@timnoonan.com.au
Skype:   VoiceReadings
Twitter: twitter.com/TimNoonan

Coaching & Consulting:  www.timnoonan.com.au
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Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

[Hamit Campos]

Ah it was a special folder for podcasts. The actual I dea involvs the 
Sinority software though. Supposedly you with the sofetware subscribe to 
podcasts. Thhan this software auto downloads them to that folder. Also 
the DM treets the files in this folder a little differently then others. 
Cause it now knows this file could be long.



On 3/22/2017 11:58 AM, Jim Portillo wrote:

Never quite understood the Podcast folder.
What did people use it for, or how did they use it?
Jim


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 8:34 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

Note on the 720 though that the podcast folder is gone. the 620 was the last
DM to have it.


On 3/22/2017 6:55 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Tim:

Does the 720 have voice support?

Thanks all over the place.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JOHN
RIEHL
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:40 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: RE: Best olympus accessible recorder.

I've also used the dm-720 and I agree with this assessment.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim
Noonan
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:21 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

If you want small and convenient, there are too recent releases:

The DM-720 which is focused on voice recordings, with quite a few features
and not bad sound; and

The Ls-P2 which is nearly as small as the 720 and 520 and 620 but supports
96/24 and has 90 degrees XY mics plus the central Tri-mic for bass.

Both support setting time and date independently.

The LS-p2 is not fantastic as a quality field recorder, with some boom eq
issues around mid bass, but for its size and the Voice Guidance, its worth
looking at. I haven't done much testing with external mics, but suspect it
will be pretty good in that regard.

If you knew the DM-7, then this is similar format and better quality.

Sadly it only has one bass roll off level, that is too aggressive for my
tastes.

If you have to choose between the DM-720 and the LS-P2, the 720 is quite a
nice note-taking device, and substantially less expensive than the LS-P2

Another benefit of the LS-P2 is that it supports output to Bluetooth
speakers and headphones, but the implementation is not very good - for
example it only seems to pair with one device at a time, and I couldn't

get

it working with my Air Pods.

Regards
Tim

On 22 Mar 2017, at 8:26 am, JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net> wrote:

It depends on what you want to do. I'e never used the LS-100. The DM-420

or

520 are, for my money, the best Olympus recorders if you want a recorder

but

aren't concerned about phantom power, etc. The DM-620 is okay but is less
straightforward to operate. The Dm-720 isn't bad either. Again, it depends
on what you want. None of the recorders I've used let you set the time and
date by voice.

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Noseworthy
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:14 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Best olympus accessible recorder.

Hi Gang:



What is the best accessible olympus recorder out there today.



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Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

[Hamit Campos]

Neal Ewers did a review of the P2. It seemed kinda meh to him. It's okay 
with external mikes. He tried some.



On 3/21/2017 7:21 PM, Tim Noonan wrote:

If you want small and convenient, there are too recent releases:

The DM-720 which is focused on voice recordings, with quite a few features and 
not bad sound; and

The Ls-P2 which is nearly as small as the 720 and 520 and 620 but supports 
96/24 and has 90 degrees XY mics plus the central Tri-mic for bass.

Both support setting time and date independently.

The LS-p2 is not fantastic as a quality field recorder, with some boom eq 
issues around mid bass, but for its size and the Voice Guidance, its worth 
looking at. I haven't done much testing with external mics, but suspect it will 
be pretty good in that regard.

If you knew the DM-7, then this is similar format and better quality.

Sadly it only has one bass roll off level, that is too aggressive for my tastes.

If you have to choose between the DM-720 and the LS-P2, the 720 is quite a nice 
note-taking device, and substantially less expensive than the LS-P2

Another benefit of the LS-P2 is that it supports output to Bluetooth speakers 
and headphones, but the implementation is not very good - for example it only 
seems to pair with one device at a time, and I couldn't get it working with my 
Air Pods.

Regards
Tim

On 22 Mar 2017, at 8:26 am, JOHN RIEHL  wrote:

It depends on what you want to do. I'e never used the LS-100. The DM-420 or
520 are, for my money, the best Olympus recorders if you want a recorder but
aren't concerned about phantom power, etc. The DM-620 is okay but is less
straightforward to operate. The Dm-720 isn't bad either. Again, it depends
on what you want. None of the recorders I've used let you set the time and
date by voice.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Noseworthy
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:14 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Best olympus accessible recorder.

Hi Gang:



What is the best accessible olympus recorder out there today.



thanks all over the place gang.







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Consultant  Speaker  Coach

Phone:   +61 419 779 669
Email:   t...@timnoonan.com.au
Skype:   VoiceReadings
Twitter: twitter.com/TimNoonan

Coaching & Consulting:  www.timnoonan.com.au
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Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

[Hamit Campos]

Note on the 720 though that the podcast folder is gone. the 620 was the 
last DM to have it.



On 3/22/2017 6:55 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Tim:

Does the 720 have voice support?

Thanks all over the place.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JOHN
RIEHL
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:40 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: Best olympus accessible recorder.

I've also used the dm-720 and I agree with this assessment.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim
Noonan
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:21 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

If you want small and convenient, there are too recent releases:

The DM-720 which is focused on voice recordings, with quite a few features
and not bad sound; and

The Ls-P2 which is nearly as small as the 720 and 520 and 620 but supports
96/24 and has 90 degrees XY mics plus the central Tri-mic for bass.

Both support setting time and date independently.

The LS-p2 is not fantastic as a quality field recorder, with some boom eq
issues around mid bass, but for its size and the Voice Guidance, its worth
looking at. I haven't done much testing with external mics, but suspect it
will be pretty good in that regard.

If you knew the DM-7, then this is similar format and better quality.

Sadly it only has one bass roll off level, that is too aggressive for my
tastes.

If you have to choose between the DM-720 and the LS-P2, the 720 is quite a
nice note-taking device, and substantially less expensive than the LS-P2

Another benefit of the LS-P2 is that it supports output to Bluetooth
speakers and headphones, but the implementation is not very good - for
example it only seems to pair with one device at a time, and I couldn't get
it working with my Air Pods.

Regards
Tim

On 22 Mar 2017, at 8:26 am, JOHN RIEHL  wrote:

It depends on what you want to do. I'e never used the LS-100. The DM-420 or
520 are, for my money, the best Olympus recorders if you want a recorder but
aren't concerned about phantom power, etc. The DM-620 is okay but is less
straightforward to operate. The Dm-720 isn't bad either. Again, it depends
on what you want. None of the recorders I've used let you set the time and
date by voice.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Noseworthy
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:14 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Best olympus accessible recorder.

Hi Gang:



What is the best accessible olympus recorder out there today.



thanks all over the place gang.







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Consultant  Speaker  Coach

Phone:   +61 419 779 669
Email:   t...@timnoonan.com.au
Skype:   VoiceReadings
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Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah a real shame. The only beef I hhad with the 14 is the XLR thing. 
Dude if only it had XLR andd Phantum it's golden my homy. Olympus seems 
to borrow stuff from Roland and Tascam. Roland does the Smart Mode 
thing. They call it Auto Sence though. The switches to turn on or off 
Phantum on the 100 is a Tascam thing. They have those switches. Much 
better then having to dive threw menus like on the Zooms.



On 3/21/2017 3:58 PM, tim cumings wrote:

The 14 is no longer available.



On 3/21/2017 1:34 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Saddly the 14 doesn't have neither XLR and along with that Phantum. 
Because it does have a killer feature. Smart Mode. What this does is 
that you hit record the mikes open at a real lo level and they're 
listening you make the loudest sound ever for that recording you wana 
make. Then unless you set the timer for endless it starts recording 
at the calculated proper level. If you set this to endless you then 
have to hit record once the loud sound is made to set the level and 
the mikes fully open at set level then it'll start recording alone. 
Ah if only the LS-14 had XLRs and phantum power in it.



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Hi Gang:


What is the best accessible olympus recorder out there today.


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Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

[Hamit Campos]

Ah the DM4 was cool.


On 3/21/2017 4:00 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I’m ancient I’m sure, still using my Olympus DM4, threw away the DM7 just 
yesterday.


On 22 Mar 2017, at 6:58 am, tim cumings <thcumi...@comcast.net> wrote:

The 14 is no longer available.



On 3/21/2017 1:34 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Saddly the 14 doesn't have neither XLR and along with that Phantum. Because it 
does have a killer feature. Smart Mode. What this does is that you hit record 
the mikes open at a real lo level and they're listening you make the loudest 
sound ever for that recording you wana make. Then unless you set the timer for 
endless it starts recording at the calculated proper level. If you set this to 
endless you then have to hit record once the loud sound is made to set the 
level and the mikes fully open at set level then it'll start recording alone. 
Ah if only the LS-14 had XLRs and phantum power in it.


On 3/21/2017 10:14 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Hi Gang:


What is the best accessible olympus recorder out there today.


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Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

[Hamit Campos]

Ah the LS P2 aparently fixed this. The time thing.


On 3/21/2017 5:26 PM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

It depends on what you want to do. I'e never used the LS-100. The DM-420 or
520 are, for my money, the best Olympus recorders if you want a recorder but
aren't concerned about phantom power, etc. The DM-620 is okay but is less
straightforward to operate. The Dm-720 isn't bad either. Again, it depends
on what you want. None of the recorders I've used let you set the time and
date by voice.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Noseworthy
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:14 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Best olympus accessible recorder.

Hi Gang:

  


What is the best accessible olympus recorder out there today.

  


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Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

[Hamit Campos]

Saddly the 14 doesn't have neither XLR and along with that Phantum. 
Because it does have a killer feature. Smart Mode. What this does is 
that you hit record the mikes open at a real lo level and they're 
listening you make the loudest sound ever for that recording you wana 
make. Then unless you set the timer for endless it starts recording at 
the calculated proper level. If you set this to endless you then have to 
hit record once the loud sound is made to set the level and the mikes 
fully open at set level then it'll start recording alone. Ah if only the 
LS-14 had XLRs and phantum power in it.



On 3/21/2017 10:14 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Hi Gang:

  


What is the best accessible olympus recorder out there today.

  


thanks all over the place gang.

  

  




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Re: Best olympus accessible recorder.

[Hamit Campos]

Ah the best is the LS-100. Think of it as something like the Zoom H4N 
Pro. It has XLRs and phantum power and stuff. The good thing is it's 
Olympus. So it talks. Note though compaired to the LS-14 it's a little 
out dated. But you said best so there it is.



On 3/21/2017 10:14 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Hi Gang:

  


What is the best accessible olympus recorder out there today.

  


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Re: Bose Soundlink Mini II: Initial Impressions

[Hamit Campos]

Ah okay. Yeah that means there's less. Quite a bit less. That's too bad.


On 3/20/2017 8:22 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

The difference is noticeablethat's about the only way I can describe it.

On the other end of the spectrum - if you're on a budget and you're 
looking for a good Bluetooth speaker - the Amazon Echo Tap in my view 
certainly ticks many boxes.


Sound isn't the quality of what we're talking about here but no one 
can deny that it sounds incredible for what it is and certainly has 
the functionality to back it up.




On 20/03/2017 2:21 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
So how mucch of the origenal bass did Bose cut from the 2? Cause the 
origenal Mini which I have has pretty cinimatic bass for something so 
small like Dane said.



On 3/19/2017 8:03 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Well i have this little beast.
Its really great for that size.
/AD
19 mars 2017 kl. 10:55 skrev Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net>:


Hi!

I saw the Bose Soundlink Mini II for the first time today and I 
came away satisfied with what I'd heard.


I owned the original Bose Soundlink Mini speaker which I thought to 
be very good, a little bass heavy - as Bose products are - but an 
incredibly powerful sounding unit for the size.


The Soundlink Mini II sounds very similar though the mid range 
seems to have a little more presence which adds to the subtlety and 
the charm of the sound.


Its worth noting the differences between the original Soundlink 
Mini and newer model.


The Soundlink Mini didn't have a TTS - Text To Speech - module 
built-in whereas the Soundlink Mini II does and one of the nice 
features here is that - when powered up - the soundlink Mini II 
tells you what device it has paired with, something that no other 
Bluetooth speaker I've ever owned has done - I don't think even the 
Jawbone Jambox did that - so a very nice touch particularly if you 
plan to use the Mini II with multiple speakers.


The Mini II can be charged from a USB power source - whether that 
be a power adapter or powerbank - whereas the original Bose 
Soundlink Mini could not, you had to carry about the 12 volt AC 
adapter.


Build quality is about the same, the nice rugged alaminium body 
though I'd still recommend a carry case or rubber sleeve if you 
plan to carry this beast about.


The original Mini had a dedicated Aux-In source button whereas the 
button has disappeared on the newer model, connecting a patch cord 
to the Aux-In socket automatically switches the source to that mode.


The Mini II has a microphone so can be used as a convenient hands 
free speakerphone with your paired device, unfortunately I wasn't 
in a position to try out this feature.


The Bose Soundlink Mini II still comes at a premium price of nearly 
300 Australian dollars but you certainly get what you pay for with 
this little mite if you're wanting a powerful sound.


I still have a few gripes with Bose and one of the main being the 
decision by Bose not to use AptX decoding on any of their speakers, 
something that IOS users probably won't bother about but Android 
users are probably used to by now, having AptX makes all the 
difference if your passion is to listen to music with all its 
detail and perhaps the thought from Bose is that - with such a 
speaker as this - you can't hear all the detail?









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Re: Bose Soundlink Mini II: Initial Impressions

[Hamit Campos]

So how mucch of the origenal bass did Bose cut from the 2? Cause the 
origenal Mini which I have has pretty cinimatic bass for something so 
small like Dane said.



On 3/19/2017 8:03 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Well i have this little beast.
Its really great for that size.
/AD

19 mars 2017 kl. 10:55 skrev Dane Trethowan :

Hi!

I saw the Bose Soundlink Mini II for the first time today and I came away 
satisfied with what I'd heard.

I owned the original Bose Soundlink Mini speaker which I thought to be very 
good, a little bass heavy - as Bose products are - but an incredibly powerful 
sounding unit for the size.

The Soundlink Mini II sounds very similar though the mid range seems to have a 
little more presence which adds to the subtlety and the charm of the sound.

Its worth noting the differences between the original Soundlink Mini and newer 
model.

The Soundlink Mini didn't have a TTS - Text To Speech - module built-in whereas 
the Soundlink Mini II does and one of the nice features here is that - when 
powered up - the soundlink Mini II tells you what device it has paired with, 
something that no other Bluetooth speaker I've ever owned has done - I don't 
think even the Jawbone Jambox did that - so a very nice touch particularly if 
you plan to use the Mini II with multiple speakers.

The Mini II can be charged from a USB power source - whether that be a power 
adapter or powerbank - whereas the original Bose Soundlink Mini could not, you 
had to carry about the 12 volt AC adapter.

Build quality is about the same, the nice rugged alaminium body though I'd 
still recommend a carry case or rubber sleeve if you plan to carry this beast 
about.

The original Mini had a dedicated Aux-In source button whereas the button has 
disappeared on the newer model, connecting a patch cord to the Aux-In socket 
automatically switches the source to that mode.

The Mini II has a microphone so can be used as a convenient hands free 
speakerphone with your paired device, unfortunately I wasn't in a position to 
try out this feature.

The Bose Soundlink Mini II still comes at a premium price of nearly 300 
Australian dollars but you certainly get what you pay for with this little mite 
if you're wanting a powerful sound.

I still have a few gripes with Bose and one of the main being the decision by 
Bose not to use AptX decoding on any of their speakers, something that IOS 
users probably won't bother about but Android users are probably used to by 
now, having AptX makes all the difference if your passion is to listen to music 
with all its detail and perhaps the thought from Bose is that - with such a 
speaker as this - you can't hear all the detail?








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Re: Bose Soundlink Mini II: Initial Impressions

[Hamit Campos]

Yes they do but they are all 5.1. No 7.1 yet and the newest system still 
doesn't support DTS HD Master audio. So you still need to tell your BD 
player to spit it at it as PCM.



On 3/19/2017 5:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Yes AptX has been out for quite some time, no excuse for Bose not 
adopting it when just about every other manufacturer of standing has, 
the cheaper company's like Logitech and so on haven't but then again 
they market to those who love gimmicks and - on the whole - aren't 
interested in quality stuff.


I thought Bose did have a surround-sound system of some kind, I'm sure 
a list member has talked about it at different times.




On 20/03/2017 7:14 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Was APTX a thing when the Mini 2 came out though? That's my beef with 
Bose too. They don't still have a 7.1 life style system. Let alone an 
epic Dolby Atmos 7.1.4 system.



On 3/19/2017 5:55 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!

I saw the Bose Soundlink Mini II for the first time today and I came 
away satisfied with what I'd heard.


I owned the original Bose Soundlink Mini speaker which I thought to 
be very good, a little bass heavy - as Bose products are - but an 
incredibly powerful sounding unit for the size.


The Soundlink Mini II sounds very similar though the mid range seems 
to have a little more presence which adds to the subtlety and the 
charm of the sound.


Its worth noting the differences between the original Soundlink Mini 
and newer model.


The Soundlink Mini didn't have a TTS - Text To Speech - module 
built-in whereas the Soundlink Mini II does and one of the nice 
features here is that - when powered up - the soundlink Mini II 
tells you what device it has paired with, something that no other 
Bluetooth speaker I've ever owned has done - I don't think even the 
Jawbone Jambox did that - so a very nice touch particularly if you 
plan to use the Mini II with multiple speakers.


The Mini II can be charged from a USB power source - whether that be 
a power adapter or powerbank - whereas the original Bose Soundlink 
Mini could not, you had to carry about the 12 volt AC adapter.


Build quality is about the same, the nice rugged alaminium body 
though I'd still recommend a carry case or rubber sleeve if you plan 
to carry this beast about.


The original Mini had a dedicated Aux-In source button whereas the 
button has disappeared on the newer model, connecting a patch cord 
to the Aux-In socket automatically switches the source to that mode.


The Mini II has a microphone so can be used as a convenient hands 
free speakerphone with your paired device, unfortunately I wasn't in 
a position to try out this feature.


The Bose Soundlink Mini II still comes at a premium price of nearly 
300 Australian dollars but you certainly get what you pay for with 
this little mite if you're wanting a powerful sound.


I still have a few gripes with Bose and one of the main being the 
decision by Bose not to use AptX decoding on any of their speakers, 
something that IOS users probably won't bother about but Android 
users are probably used to by now, having AptX makes all the 
difference if your passion is to listen to music with all its detail 
and perhaps the thought from Bose is that - with such a speaker as 
this - you can't hear all the detail?







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Re: Bose Soundlink Mini II: Initial Impressions

[Hamit Campos]

Was APTX a thing when the Mini 2 came out though? That's my beef with 
Bose too. They don't still have a 7.1 life style system. Let alone an 
epic Dolby Atmos 7.1.4 system.



On 3/19/2017 5:55 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!

I saw the Bose Soundlink Mini II for the first time today and I came 
away satisfied with what I'd heard.


I owned the original Bose Soundlink Mini speaker which I thought to be 
very good, a little bass heavy - as Bose products are - but an 
incredibly powerful sounding unit for the size.


The Soundlink Mini II sounds very similar though the mid range seems 
to have a little more presence which adds to the subtlety and the 
charm of the sound.


Its worth noting the differences between the original Soundlink Mini 
and newer model.


The Soundlink Mini didn't have a TTS - Text To Speech - module 
built-in whereas the Soundlink Mini II does and one of the nice 
features here is that - when powered up - the soundlink Mini II tells 
you what device it has paired with, something that no other Bluetooth 
speaker I've ever owned has done - I don't think even the Jawbone 
Jambox did that - so a very nice touch particularly if you plan to use 
the Mini II with multiple speakers.


The Mini II can be charged from a USB power source - whether that be a 
power adapter or powerbank - whereas the original Bose Soundlink Mini 
could not, you had to carry about the 12 volt AC adapter.


Build quality is about the same, the nice rugged alaminium body though 
I'd still recommend a carry case or rubber sleeve if you plan to carry 
this beast about.


The original Mini had a dedicated Aux-In source button whereas the 
button has disappeared on the newer model, connecting a patch cord to 
the Aux-In socket automatically switches the source to that mode.


The Mini II has a microphone so can be used as a convenient hands free 
speakerphone with your paired device, unfortunately I wasn't in a 
position to try out this feature.


The Bose Soundlink Mini II still comes at a premium price of nearly 
300 Australian dollars but you certainly get what you pay for with 
this little mite if you're wanting a powerful sound.


I still have a few gripes with Bose and one of the main being the 
decision by Bose not to use AptX decoding on any of their speakers, 
something that IOS users probably won't bother about but Android users 
are probably used to by now, having AptX makes all the difference if 
your passion is to listen to music with all its detail and perhaps the 
thought from Bose is that - with such a speaker as this - you can't 
hear all the detail?







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Re: Upgrading Sound Forge: now very well may be the right time

[Hamit Campos]

How long is this offer valid for? That's cool. I didn't get anything though.


On 3/2/2017 5:12 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Received an eMail regarding an upgrade from Sound Forge Audio Studio 
10 - which I currently own - to Sound Forge Pro 11.


The offer is a tempting one, save $200 off the standard upgrade price, 
normally $399.00 US now $199.00 US, go figure .







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Re: Using the H6

[Hamit Campos]

Ah okay. Thanks Andy. Sorry I didn't get to this till now I was out.


On 2/4/2017 7:51 AM, Andy wrote:

Hi again Hamit.

Here is my latest recording of my local pub band.

It's a Sendspace link so and it's a double album.

I think the guys are okay, but then, I'm an old guy also, haha.

Sendspace link:

https://www.sendspace.com/file/bmqaso

Very best wishes.

Andy.



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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: Using the H6


Thanks. Can you drop box me a file to hear? You did once when you had 
trouble burning 1 to a CD but that file turned out to not be 96 KHZ 
24 bits.



On 2/3/2017 6:19 PM, Andy wrote:

Hi Hamit.

I've had my H6 for just over a year now and love it.

To be honest, I don't make too many menu adjustments without sighted 
assistance.


I do loads of local recordings of bands and recently, my local 
quire's anual performance and the quality of the H6 is astounding.


I can usually get the recording levels about right with my 
headphones on.


I wish it did talk because that would be fantastic for someone like 
mmyself who is total.


What I do get is a huge big kick when fully sighted people accept my 
work on a thumb drive or CD.  They think I'm fantastic, yet all I am 
doing is chancing it on a wing and a prayer.


The H6 is very consistant and will not let you down at all and it's 
great just how used to the device you get the more you use it.


As for settings and setting it up for phantom power then this is 
something that I'd need sighted help for but so far all I've done is 
use the Internal microphones so I'm only using 2 of the 6 tracks 
which are available.


I'd love to buy a couple of Shure microphones on stands and start 
really getting into the mix, but these are rather expensive, about 
£100 for each of the 4 tracks that are there, so well above my budget.


I find that the internal microphones are good enough for what I want.

I'm recording 24 bit WAV at 196 Htz which is as good as blue ray, so 
that's fantastic and you should hear what the H6 can do.


However, I've just very recently purchased a second hand Olympus 
SL14, which is much smaller and perhaps more convienient for 
recording a band, leaving the Zoom h6 for large public performances.



I'd love to hear from other h6 users who really know their stuff, as 
I said, a wing and a prayer, but so far I'm getting away with it and 
coming up with the goods for the people who want me to record their 
stuff.


Hope this of help Hamit.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

From Scotland with Love.









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Subject: Using the H6


So folks, how are you all finding using the H6 or even the H5 
completely blind? how are ya all dealing with the fact that it 
doesn't even beep like the Olympus? Also how tricky is it to turn 
phantum power on and or off having to dive threw menus blind? Have 
you been able to get ussee to it and do it quite  fast? Or does 1 
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Re: Using the H6

[Hamit Campos]

Right which is easy enough with SF. It's a thing though if you do for 
what ever reason end up with loads and loads of files. But the advantage 
of Zooms and the Olympus LS-100 is that they recorde into folders. 
Unlike the 14. Which records to the rute recorder folder but you must 
then move them into either of the 3 folders later or 1 buy 1 as you 
record or nabb them all off the card on your PC. By the way do the Zooms 
keep your place? That's 1 other beef I have with the 14. It pops you out 
of everything when you deactivate it. Not sure of the 100.



On 2/3/2017 8:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Again I never saw that as a problem, all starting a new recording did 
was create a new Wave file so all one had to do when editing was to 
joint the two wave files together.




On 4/02/2017 11:34 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah yes that's still true. Yeah the H1 was kinda interesting. Thing 
was you can't pause a recording. You can only stop and then start a 
new 1.



On 2/3/2017 7:13 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh yeah, before I forget.  If I'm recording something noisey such as 
a train going by then I turn the levels right down, the levels are 
controled by their own separate up/down buttons and of course you 
can monitor what the H1 is picking up through headphones.




On 4/02/2017 10:19 AM, Andy wrote:

Hi Hamit.

I've had my H6 for just over a year now and love it.

To be honest, I don't make too many menu adjustments without 
sighted assistance.


I do loads of local recordings of bands and recently, my local 
quire's anual performance and the quality of the H6 is astounding.


I can usually get the recording levels about right with my 
headphones on.


I wish it did talk because that would be fantastic for someone like 
mmyself who is total.


What I do get is a huge big kick when fully sighted people accept 
my work on a thumb drive or CD.  They think I'm fantastic, yet all 
I am doing is chancing it on a wing and a prayer.


The H6 is very consistant and will not let you down at all and it's 
great just how used to the device you get the more you use it.


As for settings and setting it up for phantom power then this is 
something that I'd need sighted help for but so far all I've done 
is use the Internal microphones so I'm only using 2 of the 6 tracks 
which are available.


I'd love to buy a couple of Shure microphones on stands and start 
really getting into the mix, but these are rather expensive, about 
£100 for each of the 4 tracks that are there, so well above my budget.


I find that the internal microphones are good enough for what I want.

I'm recording 24 bit WAV at 196 Htz which is as good as blue ray, 
so that's fantastic and you should hear what the H6 can do.


However, I've just very recently purchased a second hand Olympus 
SL14, which is much smaller and perhaps more convienient for 
recording a band, leaving the Zoom h6 for large public performances.



I'd love to hear from other h6 users who really know their stuff, 
as I said, a wing and a prayer, but so far I'm getting away with it 
and coming up with the goods for the people who want me to record 
their stuff.


Hope this of help Hamit.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

From Scotland with Love.









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Subject: Using the H6


So folks, how are you all finding using the H6 or even the H5 
completely blind? how are ya all dealing with the fact that it 
doesn't even beep like the Olympus? Also how tricky is it to turn 
phantum power on and or off having to dive threw menus blind? Have 
you been able to get ussee to it and do it quite  fast? Or does 1 
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Re: Using the H6

[Hamit Campos]

Ah yes that's still true. Yeah the H1 was kinda interesting. Thing was 
you can't pause a recording. You can only stop and then start a new 1.



On 2/3/2017 7:13 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Oh yeah, before I forget.  If I'm recording something noisey such as a 
train going by then I turn the levels right down, the levels are 
controled by their own separate up/down buttons and of course you can 
monitor what the H1 is picking up through headphones.




On 4/02/2017 10:19 AM, Andy wrote:

Hi Hamit.

I've had my H6 for just over a year now and love it.

To be honest, I don't make too many menu adjustments without sighted 
assistance.


I do loads of local recordings of bands and recently, my local 
quire's anual performance and the quality of the H6 is astounding.


I can usually get the recording levels about right with my headphones 
on.


I wish it did talk because that would be fantastic for someone like 
mmyself who is total.


What I do get is a huge big kick when fully sighted people accept my 
work on a thumb drive or CD.  They think I'm fantastic, yet all I am 
doing is chancing it on a wing and a prayer.


The H6 is very consistant and will not let you down at all and it's 
great just how used to the device you get the more you use it.


As for settings and setting it up for phantom power then this is 
something that I'd need sighted help for but so far all I've done is 
use the Internal microphones so I'm only using 2 of the 6 tracks 
which are available.


I'd love to buy a couple of Shure microphones on stands and start 
really getting into the mix, but these are rather expensive, about 
£100 for each of the 4 tracks that are there, so well above my budget.


I find that the internal microphones are good enough for what I want.

I'm recording 24 bit WAV at 196 Htz which is as good as blue ray, so 
that's fantastic and you should hear what the H6 can do.


However, I've just very recently purchased a second hand Olympus 
SL14, which is much smaller and perhaps more convienient for 
recording a band, leaving the Zoom h6 for large public performances.



I'd love to hear from other h6 users who really know their stuff, as 
I said, a wing and a prayer, but so far I'm getting away with it and 
coming up with the goods for the people who want me to record their 
stuff.


Hope this of help Hamit.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

From Scotland with Love.









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Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: Using the H6


So folks, how are you all finding using the H6 or even the H5 
completely blind? how are ya all dealing with the fact that it 
doesn't even beep like the Olympus? Also how tricky is it to turn 
phantum power on and or off having to dive threw menus blind? Have 
you been able to get ussee to it and do it quite  fast? Or does 1 
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Re: Using the H6

[Hamit Campos]

Yes sir I did mean the Zoom. As was clarified later. Sorry I missed this.


On 2/3/2017 5:58 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

By H6 are you talking Zoom, Olympus or something else?



On 4/02/2017 8:34 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
So folks, how are you all finding using the H6 or even the H5 
completely blind? how are ya all dealing with the fact that it 
doesn't even beep like the Olympus? Also how tricky is it to turn 
phantum power on and or off having to dive threw menus blind? Have 
you been able to get ussee to it and do it quite  fast? Or does 1 
have to be nice and slow and count menus? thanks



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Re: Using the H6

[Hamit Campos]

Thanks. Can you drop box me a file to hear? You did once when you had 
trouble burning 1 to a CD but that file turned out to not be 96 KHZ 24 bits.



On 2/3/2017 6:19 PM, Andy wrote:

Hi Hamit.

I've had my H6 for just over a year now and love it.

To be honest, I don't make too many menu adjustments without sighted 
assistance.


I do loads of local recordings of bands and recently, my local quire's 
anual performance and the quality of the H6 is astounding.


I can usually get the recording levels about right with my headphones on.

I wish it did talk because that would be fantastic for someone like 
mmyself who is total.


What I do get is a huge big kick when fully sighted people accept my 
work on a thumb drive or CD.  They think I'm fantastic, yet all I am 
doing is chancing it on a wing and a prayer.


The H6 is very consistant and will not let you down at all and it's 
great just how used to the device you get the more you use it.


As for settings and setting it up for phantom power then this is 
something that I'd need sighted help for but so far all I've done is 
use the Internal microphones so I'm only using 2 of the 6 tracks which 
are available.


I'd love to buy a couple of Shure microphones on stands and start 
really getting into the mix, but these are rather expensive, about 
£100 for each of the 4 tracks that are there, so well above my budget.


I find that the internal microphones are good enough for what I want.

I'm recording 24 bit WAV at 196 Htz which is as good as blue ray, so 
that's fantastic and you should hear what the H6 can do.


However, I've just very recently purchased a second hand Olympus SL14, 
which is much smaller and perhaps more convienient for recording a 
band, leaving the Zoom h6 for large public performances.



I'd love to hear from other h6 users who really know their stuff, as I 
said, a wing and a prayer, but so far I'm getting away with it and 
coming up with the goods for the people who want me to record their 
stuff.


Hope this of help Hamit.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

From Scotland with Love.









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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: Using the H6


So folks, how are you all finding using the H6 or even the H5 
completely blind? how are ya all dealing with the fact that it 
doesn't even beep like the Olympus? Also how tricky is it to turn 
phantum power on and or off having to dive threw menus blind? Have 
you been able to get ussee to it and do it quite  fast? Or does 1 
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Re: Using the H6

[Hamit Campos]

Cool. Yes the Zooms record to 1 folder if you do stereo. if you get into 
multy then each recorder gose into seprate folders and each mike is put 
into it's own file. Axept channals 1 and 2. But these may also when you 
use that bit with the 2 XLRs.



On 2/3/2017 7:02 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I don't have the H6 as yet, been meaning to get one for a while though.

'I've had a Zoom H1 for 7 years and I have a couple of Olympus 
recorders so - whilst I don't have a H6 - I can perhaps make a few 
comparisons which might be useful.


Yes the Olympus recorders do talk and that's convenient however I do 
find that rather offputting to be honest.


With the Zoom H1 I've just got so used to turning the unit on and 
pressing the Record button and again to stop recording.


After I've finished recording? Well its just a matter of turning the 
H1 off and connecting to the computer to copy the files across using 
USB 3.0 so the transfer speed is actually faster than that offered by 
the Olympus recorders.


I don't have to look for my content either like I do on the Olympus as 
the H1 - and I assume to the H6 - only records in one folder on the SD 
card.


I'm not too concerned about levels, I've been using the H1 long enough 
to know roughly where 0 DB level is and - if their are any significant 
level adjustments that need to be made - I use the Normalise function 
in my audio production suite to do the fixing.


Thankfully Digital recorders have plenty of headroom.

Anyway my thoughts for what they're worth.



On 4/02/2017 10:19 AM, Andy wrote:

Hi Hamit.

I've had my H6 for just over a year now and love it.

To be honest, I don't make too many menu adjustments without sighted 
assistance.


I do loads of local recordings of bands and recently, my local 
quire's anual performance and the quality of the H6 is astounding.


I can usually get the recording levels about right with my headphones 
on.


I wish it did talk because that would be fantastic for someone like 
mmyself who is total.


What I do get is a huge big kick when fully sighted people accept my 
work on a thumb drive or CD.  They think I'm fantastic, yet all I am 
doing is chancing it on a wing and a prayer.


The H6 is very consistant and will not let you down at all and it's 
great just how used to the device you get the more you use it.


As for settings and setting it up for phantom power then this is 
something that I'd need sighted help for but so far all I've done is 
use the Internal microphones so I'm only using 2 of the 6 tracks 
which are available.


I'd love to buy a couple of Shure microphones on stands and start 
really getting into the mix, but these are rather expensive, about 
£100 for each of the 4 tracks that are there, so well above my budget.


I find that the internal microphones are good enough for what I want.

I'm recording 24 bit WAV at 196 Htz which is as good as blue ray, so 
that's fantastic and you should hear what the H6 can do.


However, I've just very recently purchased a second hand Olympus 
SL14, which is much smaller and perhaps more convienient for 
recording a band, leaving the Zoom h6 for large public performances.



I'd love to hear from other h6 users who really know their stuff, as 
I said, a wing and a prayer, but so far I'm getting away with it and 
coming up with the goods for the people who want me to record their 
stuff.


Hope this of help Hamit.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

From Scotland with Love.









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To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 9:34 PM
Subject: Using the H6


So folks, how are you all finding using the H6 or even the H5 
completely blind? how are ya all dealing with the fact that it 
doesn't even beep like the Olympus? Also how tricky is it to turn 
phantum power on and or off having to dive threw menus blind? Have 
you been able to get ussee to it and do it quite  fast? Or does 1 
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Using the H6

[Hamit Campos]

So folks, how are you all finding using the H6 or even the H5 completely 
blind? how are ya all dealing with the fact that it doesn't even beep 
like the Olympus? Also how tricky is it to turn phantum power on and or 
off having to dive threw menus blind? Have you been able to get ussee to 
it and do it quite  fast? Or does 1 have to be nice and slow and count 
menus? thanks



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Re: Olympus LS 14

[Hamit Campos]

Another cool feature of this thing is that the F2 button the little 
rectangle button with the lip in the row of 3 long rectangle buttons 
right under the desplay can make it split files wwhile recording.



On 2/3/2017 3:44 PM, Andy wrote:

Hi all.

I've just purchased a second hand Olympus LS14 but cannot find the Record 
Button.

I've got Neal Ewares Podcast on this particular device, but Neal has not made 
it clear as to where the record button is.

Anyone got one of these wee devices and can set me straight?

Very best wishes.

Andy.

 From Scotland with Love.




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Re: Olympus LS 14

[Hamit Campos]

Hi. you know the top row of the 3 round buttons? well the 1 with the 
hole in it is the record 1.



On 2/3/2017 3:44 PM, Andy wrote:

Hi all.

I've just purchased a second hand Olympus LS14 but cannot find the Record 
Button.

I've got Neal Ewares Podcast on this particular device, but Neal has not made 
it clear as to where the record button is.

Anyone got one of these wee devices and can set me straight?

Very best wishes.

Andy.

 From Scotland with Love.




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Re: Anyone use a Zoom H6 for audio recording

[Hamit Campos]

All 3 files have audio right? because if they do and you didn't touch 
the recorder the whole time this suggests this somehow and this is news 
to me it automagically splits files. If that's the case peese out my 
friends I don't know. What I thought of though is that remember this is 
a multy channal and multi track recorder. So some how it could be that 
you armed the other XLRs without meaning too. But na from what you just 
said I guess it can split files after all.



On 1/30/2017 7:31 PM, Andy wrote:

Hi all.

I have a nice Zoom H6  digital hand recorder, and although it is a lovely 
machine in terms of it's quality, it's a pig to use if you are blind.

On Saturday, I recorded a 2 hour concert at my local village hall.

The Zoom created three files, not one file.


In Goldwave, for example, you can tick the box titled Unbounded within settings 
so that you can record a file of any length.

My zoom must have a similar function, but I cannot find it.

I don't want to end up with three files after only 2 hours of recording.  I 
only require one file.

Is there anyone who knows what I'm talking about and can help me set up my Zoom 
to make a single file of any length.

Thanks very much.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

 From Scotland with Love.



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Re: Pure Audio Discs

[Hamit Campos]

Cool dude. I'd go with FLAC. Assuming 1 has a Device that'll play'm. 
Which the VR Stratus will. Not sure of the Streams at the moment. Oh and 
if they do, how benifitual is it? Can you really apreciate the 
difference since it's no Bose in these things.



On 1/28/2017 10:20 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I also should mention that - with every Pure Audio Blu-Ray disc 
purchase - the customer gets a coupon allowing them to download the 
album tracks as MP3 or HD FLAC files.




On 27/01/2017 8:15 AM, Casey wrote:

Hi how do you find A player to plays thees disks in the states?
Or will nay bluray player work?
What are some models of players that will play shoe kind of disks?








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Re: Startup problem with Olympus LS 14

[Hamit Campos]

Ah yeah this is true. That's what I do. Now with the DM recorders you 
have the advantage that you can use the Software that comes with them. 
How ever with the little LS-P2 and I assume the DM720 aparently Olympus 
apparently did have the lady go back and record all the stuff needed for 
this. Cause Neal Ewers said that the LS-P2 does speak all this.



On 1/22/2017 1:24 PM, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,
If you don't care if the time is accurate you can just hit the enter 
button and it'll get you past that screen and then someone can set up 
the time for you later unless you know how to approximate your way 
through it which I never mastered. but when changing batteries just 
hit the enter key and it'll accept whatever it thinks the current time 
is and let you go on your way.

Robin

-Original Message- From: Brian Olesen
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 12:39 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Startup problem with Olympus LS 14

Hi folks,

The Olympus LS 14 I have does a strange thing. It drains the batteries
within a week or so, but that's not my essential question.

Can someone please describe the first screens that pups up, when you've
inserted some new batteries into the LS14?




I know it has something to do with setting up the time and date, but 
exactly

how do one do that??



Best regards

Brian





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Re: Startup problem with Olympus LS 14

[Hamit Campos]

You use the arrows like the Lady says. Saddly though Olympus didn't have 
her say the numbers months days years and stuff. Remember these Olympus 
recorders don't have a Synth like the Plextalks. It's more like the 
victors. But of course Humanware has the guy say everything. Olympus 
only had the lady say most everything. Not complaning it's better saddly 
then the Zooms that don't talk at all. That's why though I like the 
sound of the H5 and 6 I hesitate to get either. I'd especially love te 
6. Cause you could essentually do 5.1 surround with it. Now here's a 
question for ya. Is the plug in power on your 14? I don't get why it's 
killing the batteries so quick. Check if plug in power is on and turn it 
off if not needed. I turned it off on mine.



On 1/22/2017 12:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi folks,

The Olympus LS 14 I have does a strange thing. It drains the batteries
within a week or so, but that's not my essential question.

Can someone please describe the first screens that pups up, when you've
inserted some new batteries into the LS14?




I know it has something to do with setting up the time and date, but exactly
how do one do that??

  


Best regards

Brian




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Re: .ogg files

[Hamit Campos]

There use to be plug ins you could use. Google is your friend but again 
be carefull. I should think VLC  can play ogg though. Don't really 
remember. Haven't messed with Ogg Vorbus since the 1 time I geeked out 
on it because the PTR2 played it.



On 1/19/2017 1:59 PM, Reed wrote:

Hey guys,

  


I have anew windows 10 machine.  How can I get Media Player to play .ogg
files?  Or, should I use a different player?

  


Thanks,

  


Reed




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Re: downloading .wav files

[Hamit Campos]

Ah yes that's another idea too.


On 1/18/2017 9:06 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I tend to use insert+space, s to turn off speech before starting a
recording.  If forms-mode opos are an issue, I could turn off JAWS entirely,
disable them temporarily, turn off auto-forms mode, or switch to NVDA and
deal with the sounds there.  Turning off JAWs speech has thus far sufficed.



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Campos
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 8:59 AM
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Subject: Re: downloading .wav files

Ah good idea. Just be carefull of JAWS. That's why I try and avoid my
idea of him using his H6's line in or this kinda thing. Unless you feel
confortable sending JAWS to some other card you could get een the pops
of JAWS going into and out of forms mode. But yeah good idea and my PC's
builtin card does have the famus whatg you hear feature. Not sure of his
though.



On 1/18/2017 8:44 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

Another approach, take it or leave it, is the free Virtual Recorder

program

which lets you capture whatever comes to the soundcard as either a .wav or
.mp3 file.  There are other ways to do this, but I happen to like this

one:

http://opopanax.net/download/


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Subject: Re: downloading .wav files

You can google stuff, I'd just use an old PC you don't give a damb about
just incase something unfriendly comes along for the ride. I did this
kinda thing looking for light saber sounds and stuff from Godzilla 1998.
But yeah the Intell jingle. They still do it. try google but just be
carefull. I'd try and get it from the end of a intel add on youtube.
Infact don't you have the Zoom H6? You could record the line in audio of
it. That's what I did for a bit after the free youtube to MP3 converter
from DVD Video soft wanted to hit me with some fee.


On 1/17/2017 3:31 PM, randy tijerina wrote:

Hi everyone...randy here.
I wonder if there's a site..where I can download good .wav
files..I am especially looking for that five note Intel
thing...remember that?
if anyone has it..send it to me off-list, please?



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Re: downloading .wav files

[Hamit Campos]

Ah good idea. Just be carefull of JAWS. That's why I try and avoid my 
idea of him using his H6's line in or this kinda thing. Unless you feel 
confortable sending JAWS to some other card you could get een the pops 
of JAWS going into and out of forms mode. But yeah good idea and my PC's 
builtin card does have the famus whatg you hear feature. Not sure of his 
though.




On 1/18/2017 8:44 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

Another approach, take it or leave it, is the free Virtual Recorder program
which lets you capture whatever comes to the soundcard as either a .wav or
.mp3 file.  There are other ways to do this, but I happen to like this one:

http://opopanax.net/download/


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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 8:27 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: downloading .wav files

You can google stuff, I'd just use an old PC you don't give a damb about
just incase something unfriendly comes along for the ride. I did this
kinda thing looking for light saber sounds and stuff from Godzilla 1998.
But yeah the Intell jingle. They still do it. try google but just be
carefull. I'd try and get it from the end of a intel add on youtube.
Infact don't you have the Zoom H6? You could record the line in audio of
it. That's what I did for a bit after the free youtube to MP3 converter
from DVD Video soft wanted to hit me with some fee.


On 1/17/2017 3:31 PM, randy tijerina wrote:

Hi everyone...randy here.
I wonder if there's a site..where I can download good .wav
files..I am especially looking for that five note Intel
thing...remember that?
if anyone has it..send it to me off-list, please?




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Re: downloading .wav files

[Hamit Campos]

You can google stuff, I'd just use an old PC you don't give a damb about 
just incase something unfriendly comes along for the ride. I did this 
kinda thing looking for light saber sounds and stuff from Godzilla 1998. 
But yeah the Intell jingle. They still do it. try google but just be 
carefull. I'd try and get it from the end of a intel add on youtube. 
Infact don't you have the Zoom H6? You could record the line in audio of 
it. That's what I did for a bit after the free youtube to MP3 converter 
from DVD Video soft wanted to hit me with some fee.



On 1/17/2017 3:31 PM, randy tijerina wrote:

Hi everyone...randy here.
I wonder if there's a site..where I can download good .wav 
files..I am especially looking for that five note Intel 
thing...remember that?

if anyone has it..send it to me off-list, please?





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Re: Sangean DDR66 Wooden Cabinet Tabletop Radio

[Hamit Campos]

yah.

 also the multy format thing comes in real handy. Gives ya lots of 
options too.

On 1/17/2017 11:09 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
There's quite a bit to be said for a slot loading CD player, no draw 
to be dammaged obviously.




On 1/17/2017 12:43 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:


Oo slot load CD player. Dude that's epic! Way cool.
On 1/16/2017 7:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Not only is it gratifying when 2 people buy an appliance I reviewed 
on list but its even better when I hear that those two people are 
utterly enjoying the Sangean DDR66 and why wouldn’t they, a summary 
of the feature list I think tells the story.

Slot loading multi format CD player
DAB/FM/Internet radio
10 Presets each for DAB, FM and Internet radio
Spotify Connect
DLNA/USB Music Player
Bluetooth Streaming
Aux Input
Headphone, Line and digital outputs
Fantastic stereo sound through two speakers in acoustically 
separated cabinets

NFC Bluetooth pairing
Remote controller through remote control unit and accessible Undok App
Two Alarm Timers
Records Radio/CD to USB stick or SSD Memory card
Compatible with Dual Wi-Fi 2.4/5GHZ bands
WPS Wi-Fi connect
The DDR66 seems to be now readily available though this always 
hasn’t been the case, one of the people I know who has one resides 
in the U.K. and he had no trouble getting hold of one of these sets.


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Re: Sangean DDR66 Wooden Cabinet Tabletop Radio

[Hamit Campos]

Oo slot load CD player. Dude that's epic! Way cool.
On 1/16/2017 7:29 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Not only is it gratifying when 2 people buy an appliance I reviewed on list but 
its even better when I hear that those two people are utterly enjoying the 
Sangean DDR66 and why wouldn’t they, a summary of the feature list I think 
tells the story.
Slot loading multi format CD player
DAB/FM/Internet radio
10 Presets each for DAB, FM and Internet radio
Spotify Connect
DLNA/USB Music Player
Bluetooth Streaming
Aux Input
Headphone, Line and digital outputs
Fantastic stereo sound through two speakers in acoustically separated cabinets
NFC Bluetooth pairing
Remote controller through remote control unit and accessible Undok App
Two Alarm Timers
Records Radio/CD to USB stick or SSD Memory card
Compatible with Dual Wi-Fi 2.4/5GHZ bands
WPS Wi-Fi connect
The DDR66 seems to be now readily available though this always hasn’t been the 
case, one of the people I know who has one resides in the U.K. and he had no 
trouble getting hold of one of these sets.

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Re: playing iso files?

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah extract the stuff. Unless and I forget if you can treat an ISO like 
a Zip and just open it and go threw it.



On 1/16/2017 3:22 PM, Robert Godridge wrote:

I have a cd as an .iso file. I realise this is an image/archive file.
How should I play it, just extract everything from it or is there a
nicer way? I'm on a windows pc.




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Re: Sound Forge Query

[Hamit Campos]

I'm not using the scripts. But as is you use to be able to hit insert page down 
and you'd get the sample rate and bit depth of a file as well as how long a 
process  will take or has done so. Now it only says 17. What did they do?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2017, at 3:28 AM, Brian Hartgen  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> If you use the jaws cursor to click on 20 band, that should allow you then to 
> get access to the controls.
> 
> Brian Hartgen
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Kelly
> Sent: 08 January 2017 08:22
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
> Subject: Sound Forge Query
> 
> Using SF 11 with JFW scripts I'm now getting a message using the graphic eq 
> can not find 10 band  eq for both mono and stereo files. Using alt plus 
> control 1 or 2  to change from 10 to 20 band is un available. Is there a fix 
> for this?
> 
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Michael Lang's reviews

[Hamit Campos]

Hi every one. Does anyone here have the MP3s of Michael Lang's reviews? 
For as you all know he saddly is gone. Thus his site is gone. I'd 
especially like to get the PTR1 review again. But if anyone still has 
them all I'd be glad to have'm. His reviews were way cool. He was 1 cool 
dude. Thanks.



On 12/21/2016 12:17 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!

I've spoken to a friend of mine who now has one of these radios and 
can provide the following information and I hope to be able to link to 
a review of the radio shortly.


The Sangean HDR16 is - as far as we know - the only portable HD radio 
set available in the US and - by all accounts - its a true bargain to 
be had for under $100.


there are many things I like about the company Sangean, one of which 
is their desire to use standard type cabinets across the range of 
radios they sell. This means that - if you've ever seen a Sangean 
PDR15 or DPR26 - then you'll know exactly what the HDR16 portable HD 
radio looks like as they all use the same cabinet.


The HDR16 is a stereo receiver with 2 2.5 ench speakers either side of 
the control panel - quite a standard layout for a Sangean portable one 
could say -.


Don't let the size of the speakers put you off, they sound remarkably 
good.


On the left hand side of the unit is a range of connections which 
include headphones, line-in and line-out.


The HDR16 has both FM and AM HD bands.

I'm told that when you tune to an AM broadcast the HD locks in 
automatically so you've no idea what the standard analogue AM signal 
sounds like if that station is broadcasting in HD, the set just locks 
on and that's it.


The tuning is incredibly selective - scan 10KHZ either side of the 
station and you've no idea the station is there -, nice filtering.


If you tune to a standard AM signal the set sounds reasonable, no band 
width filter unfortunately.


The HDR16 is incredibly senstive on the AM band but no surprises there 
as most Sangean radio sets these days are.


HD on the FM band is superb apparently though there's another qwirk 
with the radio that one has to get used to.


When you tune to HD FM broadcast the radio plays the standard FM 
broadcast signal for around 5 seconds before locking onto the HD signal.


When the radio has locked on the jog dial can be used to select the 
extra HD stations pertaining to the main FM broadcast.


The FM band's sensitivity and selectivity is very good but again, no 
surprises there as its a Sangean set after all.


So that's all I know thus far and I envy Tom who has this radio 
, I could get one too but unfortuantley it wouldn't be too 
useful in Australia though at least the radio has sensitive AM and FM 
even though I wouldn't be able to make full use of the HD portion.







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Re: VLC FOR WINDOWS

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah and I found out by axidently hitting the wheel. I was looking for 
the mouse and when I found it I knuckled it.



On 12/14/2016 2:24 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Hey now that's damn nifty, didn't know about the mouse wheel to 
control the volume so thanks for informing the list.




On 15/12/2016 5:22 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
I usually find that if your focused on it, and you twirl the mouse 
weal that turns it up if you go twords the front of the mouse and if 
you go back twords your hand it goes down.




On 12/14/2016 11:38 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:

Hi,

I have just upgraded to the latest version of VLC for Windows 
running under Windows 10 and would appreciate it if someone could 
tell me what the shortcut keys are, please, for increasing and 
decreasing the volume.  In the
Audio menu, it lists them as ALT-I and ALT-D but I cannot get these 
to work for me!  I have also tried ALT-up and down arrows and 
Control-up and down arrows but with no more joy!


Any enlightenment gratefully received.

Regards
Richard Bartholomew





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Re: VLC FOR WINDOWS

[Hamit Campos]

I usually find that if your focused on it, and you twirl the mouse weal 
that turns it up if you go twords the front of the mouse and if you go 
back twords your hand it goes down.




On 12/14/2016 11:38 AM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:

Hi,

I have just upgraded to the latest version of VLC for Windows running under 
Windows 10 and would appreciate it if someone could tell me what the shortcut 
keys are, please, for increasing and decreasing the volume.  In the
Audio menu, it lists them as ALT-I and ALT-D but I cannot get these to work for 
me!  I have also tried ALT-up and down arrows and Control-up and down arrows 
but with no more joy!

Any enlightenment gratefully received.

Regards
Richard Bartholomew





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Re: MileStone 311 and Ultra SD cards

[Hamit Campos]

Yes I did read the manual. But that's the thing with these things. 
Sometimes they are too vegue. Didn't say anything about ultra cards or 
anhything. Sometimes like in the case of the plextalks they get 
specific, but not enough. My PTR1's rejected 3 cards already. Now I 
doubt the M311 would but better to be safe.



On 12/6/2016 10:52 PM, Norma A. Boge wrote:

Hi,

I am only familiar with the Book Port Plus, but if you have access to the user 
manual it should tell you if certain type cards are to be used with the player. 
A Google search should get you to the user manual if you don't have one. 
Sometimes it is included with firmware.

HTH
Norma


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Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: MileStone 311 and Ultra SD cards

Hi does anyone here yet have the M311? I know the thing hasn't been updated 
since 2009. I know that supposedly with that new firmware it can take 8 GB SD 
cards. But does the class 10 and ultra and stuff matter?
Cause I found a 5 pack of 8 GB SD cards on Amazon but it had all that stuff to 
it.


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MileStone 311 and Ultra SD cards

[Hamit Campos]

Hi does anyone here yet have the M311? I know the thing hasn't been 
updated since 2009. I know that supposedly with that new firmware it can 
take 8 GB SD cards. But does the class 10 and ultra and stuff matter? 
Cause I found a 5 pack of 8 GB SD cards on Amazon but it had all that 
stuff to it.



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Re: Demo 1 of the Giga Set DX800 Phone system

[Hamit Campos]

Epic!


On 11/28/2016 1:10 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

And of course you’re living in the home of the Giga set .


On 29 Nov. 2016, at 4:18 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Verry cool.Sounds verry clear and stuff.


On 11/25/2016 3:43 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

In this demo you will hear the quality of the HD Audio system Gigaset phone 
systems use.
The quality of HD Audio is particularly noticeable when using the phone with 
VOIP lines.
I plan to do further demonstrations of this fantastic phone system in the 
future.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10565527/Gigaset%20DX800%20Demo%201.mp3
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youtube to MP3 converter

[Hamit Campos]

Hi my friends. What are ya all using to convert youtube vids today? 
the famus Youtube To MP3 converter is being a miscrient. Those guys want 
me to take some premium. There's a get premium button and a continu 
button. I hit continu but it is being caprisus. It won't download the 
vid. They really want ya to get the dammed premium. Now it is a good 
offer, but the thing is that well on prinsible the program I thought is 
called the free youtube to mp3 converter. Thus free should meen free. 
lol But other than that the next problem is that boy do they ever want 
ya to do it. It's like oh no you don't you don't get to download the vid 
unless you get the premium. Seriously it won't download.

Re: Demo 1 of the Giga Set DX800 Phone system

[Hamit Campos]

Verry cool.Sounds verry clear and stuff.


On 11/25/2016 3:43 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

In this demo you will hear the quality of the HD Audio system Gigaset phone 
systems use.
The quality of HD Audio is particularly noticeable when using the phone with 
VOIP lines.
I plan to do further demonstrations of this fantastic phone system in the 
future.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10565527/Gigaset%20DX800%20Demo%201.mp3
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RE: Recommendations for a Large Capacity SD Card for my VRS?

[Hamit Campos]

Yo
Dude 512 GB? That's lots and lots of podcasts and DAISY books and what not.
As all that's MP3 or CD quality at best. Remember these things sadly don't
do HD. Super epic though.
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Smiling?
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:19 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: Recommendations for a Large Capacity SD Card for my VRS?

Yes, that is what they will tell you, but several of us have been
successfully using what is known as SDXC cards (64GB to 2TB) for quite a
while  now. I've been using my 128GB card since purchasing the Victor back
in August of 2013. There are quite a few using SDXC cards in general, but
some using the 256GB and the 512GB cards with no problems.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Colin
Phelan
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 6:35 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Recommendations for a Large Capacity SD Card for my VRS?

Hi Human wear I was sure told me max capacity was 32gig in the latest VRS 
  

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Sent: 26 October 2016 11:40
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Recommendations for a Large Capacity SD Card for my VRS?

Hello,

 

I'm looking to purchase a large capacity card to store a large quantity of
OTR shows encoded in MP3 format on. I'm sick of swapping 64 GB cards for
listening to various genres saved on several SD cards. Just want one big boy
card to put the majority of them on.

 

What is the largest capacity SD card the Victory Reader Stream can handle?
Also what is the best brand to buy that will last the longest period of
time?

 

Thanks for any recommendations.

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RE: Now I have my B T7 Speaker

[Hamit Campos]

Cool dude. Way too cool.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 7:53 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Now I have my B T7 Speaker

Yep, proudly bought the baby home this morning though I didn't have time to 
listen and fully aprreciate what this darling of sound could product, in a 
word? stunning!

So first I think it best to mention what you're not going to get from this 
speaker.

No, it doesn't have a hands free speaker phone.

No, it does not have overpowering bass as the Bose Soundlink does - not to be 
confused with the latest Soundlink Mini. -

No, the speaker cannot be charged from a USB port though the speaker does have 
one for servicing and firmware updates, the external power supply that comes 
with the speaker has to be used for charging or powering the speaker from a 
mains outlet.

No, at $549 Australian the T7 isn't a cheap Bluetooth speaker system.

So with all that in mind we soon realise that the T7 is catering for a 
particular person, those who enjoy listening to their music collection on the 
go.

All the B products I have are detailed even from the point of unpacking 
that's obvious, anyone would think that we're talking about a gold bar here 
when it comes to the packing of the T7, foam padding as part of the lid and the 
bottom of the T7 box for instance.

The T7 looks like no other Bluetooth speaker I've seen thus far, a metal frame 
at front and back bulging out from a rubberised frame in the middle.

On the top of this are your control buttons, the bluetooth pairing button, 
transport control buttons, volume up/down buttons and so on.

Of course this led to some confusion on my part as I thought the power button 
would be on the top with the rest of the controls but no, the power button is a 
concave button towards the bottom right hand side of the unit, well out of the 
way and not likely to be knocked I thought, when I finally discovered where the 
power button actually was.

Turning on the T7 presents the ears with a lovely musical introduction to tell 
us that the T7 is ready and yet a further melodious tone is heard to indicate a 
connection with a Bluetooth device.

Another distinctive sequence of notes is heard when the Bluetooth pairing 
button itself is pressed and further short musical scores sound when the 
Bluetooth is disconnected.

So what you say, many Bluetooth speakers sound tones but not short sequences of 
notes.

For the tests I used two devices paired to the T7, the Samsung Galaxy S6 and 
the Apple iPhone 6 so before we go any further - if you're thinking about a B 
T7 and you have an iPhone - even though the iPhone doesn't have AptX - - you 
wn't be disappointed, more on that later.

So what do we get when selecting the music player on the Samsung S6, 
double-tapping the "Play" button and turning up the volume of the T7 to a 
comfortable listening level? A well defined sound from the T7 and when I say 
well defined that's exactly what I mean, one could be forgiven for thinking 
they're listening to a pair of well spaced bookshelf speakers.

The presence of instruments in a track is well heard on the sound stage.

The bass is there though - as I stated before - if you're looking for something 
with overpowering bass then you're going to be disappointed, I call the T7 a 
system that produces the bass honestly.

The mid range is excellent and the highs? Well obviously not as good as a 
system with dedicated tweeters perhaps but they're certainly there to be heard, 
the DSP of the T7 truly shines.

I noticed something else when putting my hand on the desk the T7 was standing 
on, no vibrations from the T7 of any sort so the T7 doesn't rely on the surface 
its standing on to allow you to hear bass notes, have you ever thought your 
house might sustain serious structural damage from all those bass heavy notes 
going through your walls and floor? I know with some systems I've used I can 
feel the bass coming through the walls and floor a few rooms away from where 
the speaker actually is but not with this little beauty, absolutely incredible.

Listening to the speaker paired to the iPhone 6 was also a pleasure, the same 
characteristics of the speaker are to be heard though the sound from the iPhone 
6 didn't sound quite as airy as that from the Samsung Galaxy S6 with its AptX 
encoding though perfectly listenable and perfectly understandable as to the 
slight difference in sound so come on Apple, not all your users are deaf to the 
sound of good audio, please give your users AptX as part of your Bluetooth 
functionality.

The B T7 claims to give 18 hours of music from a fully charged battery? We'll 
see but - if that is indeed the case - then its one of the best Bluetooth 
speakers for battery life.

The battery is an internal Lithium ion type which cannot be replaced by the 
user.

RE: iPhone 7 disappointing audio...?

[Hamit Campos]

I found the stereo axeptable when I heard it at the apple store at the Danbury 
Fair Mall. I'llv  say that it isa cheep trick though. They just used the ear 
peace for the right channel I'm assuming it is. So it's like Okay apple 
seriously now you do this? I also now see more point to the gripe people have 
about the HeadPhone jack. I thought they had put the other speaker there or 
something. But I totally didn't expect what they infact did.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 3:49 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: iPhone 7 disappointing audio...?

I think the extra attachment you can get for that LG phone is a JBL speaker of 
some kind. Not sure about any sort of extra DAC. I will also be very curious 
what you think of the P9, although it is frankly out of my price range. I don't 
care how good it is, there must be limits. Smile. I went from an iPhone 6s to a 
7+, so I have a size difference in my phone, which might make for some of the 
differences in sound between the two. The 7+ is certainly louder than the 6S, 
and I do think it sounds better. The stereo image of course is a joke. I have a 
Nexus six android device for comparison. The iPhone sounds better. The stereo 
image if you want to call it that, on the Nexus is actually better, probably 
because the speakers both face the same direction. But the Nexus is so 
incredibly lacking in bass, that they might as well not have bothered with the 
stereo at all. The single iPhone speaker in my 6S sounded better than the Nexus 
with its dual stereo speakers.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> A most interesting read!
> 
> I've always been impressed with the internal speakers on Apple iPhone though 
> - like you - I've never taken them seriously for music listening but for 
> speech and Voiceover the internal iPhone speaker is superb.
> 
> Now I have an iPhone 6 because of my Arcam DAC - the same as yours - and I 
> had an iPhone 6S at one time.
> 
> I think - could be wrong - that the quality of the iPhone 6 speaker isn't 
> quite as good as that of the 6S but none the less iits an improvement on the 
> 5S and so its gone on right up through the iPhone series so I'm not at all 
> surprised to hear that the speakers of the iPhone 7 sound good, that's the 
> only thing that's tempting me to go out and buy an iPhone 7.
> 
> I'm not at all surprised to at your comments regarding the Lightning Dock to 
> 3.5MM jack converter but - as Apple have never ever provided high quality 
> Earbuds with their iPhones anyway - its therefore not surprising that Apple 
> didn't provide a high quality DAC but - having said that - I think Apple 
> should have stated this and perhaps sold a higher quality converter - say for 
> a couple of hundred dollars - so the user would at least have the choice of 
> an upgrade.
> 
> LG does this with one of their phones, its a modular phone - can't remember 
> the name of it - but the user has the choice of using what's available or 
> buying other options to enhance the quality of audio, photos etc.
> 
> I have a set of Philips cans here that plug straight into a Lightning 
> connector so - if and when I get a chance - I'm looking forward to connecting 
> these to an iPhone 7 and doing some comparisons with that cheap nasty 
> lightning to 3.5MM jack converter .
> 
> I like you have a pair of P7's, love the things and - may as well tell you 
> now - I'm off to listen to the B P9's shortly.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 19/10/2016 6:17 AM, John Gurd wrote:
>> I got an iPhone 7 a few days ago and had it away with me on a weekend 
>> break with limited opportunities to play with it.
>> 
>>  
>> Well, on this list there’s always someone who wants to know what the 
>> phone speaker sounds like. To dispense with that question quickly, 
>> it’s the best sounding iPhone (that doesn’t have a Plus in its name) I’ve 
>> heard so far.
>> Not surprising, as it has two tiny speakers instead of one so Voice 
>> Over and books on Voice Dream Reader sound very pleasant. I don’t 
>> listen to music on a phone speaker and am always surprised when 
>> people give this aspect of audio serious consideration.
>> 
>>  
>> Of course the iPhone 7 is the infamous one where they got rid of the 
>> audio jack. So I took my trusty B P7 headphones, my ancient and 
>> cheap but much-loved (for sentimental reasons) Koss Porto Pros and my 
>> Bluetooth Plantronics BackBeat Pros and the lightening ear pods that 
>> ship with the device. No DAC except the little lightning to 3.5mm 
>> convertor supplied by Apple.
>> 
>>  
>> Here are my first impressions and I have to emphasis they were 
>> entirely subjective with no attempt at rigor. Imagine my shock when I 
>> tried my P7s and thought they sounded awful! The mid-range was thin 
>> with a hardness I never noticed 

RE: high quality accessible stereo amp.

[Hamit Campos]

Yeah you never know what could have been reliced. Not likely, but you can
never tell.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim
Noseworthy
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 7:03 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: high quality accessible stereo amp.

Excuse me but the answer could change in one day, let alone seven.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 6:08 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: high quality accessible stereo amp.

You asked us about this last week I think it was so I doubt the answers
given then would have changed in 7 days .



On 15/10/2016 1:18 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:
> Hi Folks:
>
>   
>
> Any recommendations for a high quality stereo amplifier which can be
> controled from an IPhone app or which has good network accessibility?
>
>   
>
> Thanks all over the place gang.
>
>   
>
>   
>

RE: Preamp for Computer

[Hamit Campos]

Oh really? That's curious. I kinda remember that 1 from blind cool tech.
Never touched 1 though.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:08 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Preamp for Computer

It's basically what used to be the Edirol R09HR, so it works in pretty much
the same way.


On 10/10/2016 16:51, Hamit Campos wrote:
> Ah I see. That's fine. How's that recorder?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
> Wilkins
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 11:49 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Preamp for Computer
>
> Hello Hamit,
>
> I'm afraid it won't work with my computer as I originally thought.  It
works
> with my Roland R05 recorder though, albeit in mono.
>
>
> On 10/10/2016 16:10, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> How do you use it? Can ya send me a sampel of something captured with it?
>> Man the NT1-a and Neal's 744-T was epic. I'd love 1 of those recorders.
>> Those things are so epic.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
>> Wilkins
>> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:20 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Preamp for Computer
>>
>> It sounds quite good for doing things such as reviews.
>> On 10/10/2016 03:59, Hamit Campos wrote:
>>> What's the Rode M3 sound like? I've heard an NT1-A with a Zoom H4N and
>>> even an Olympus 100 and dam that thing's epic!
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Samuel Wilkins
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 4:01 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Preamp for Computer
>>>
>>> I've got a friend who has a Shure SM58, I could borrow his and try it
> out.
>>> I have a Rode M3 condenser microphone which uses a battery, so that
>>> should work.  My card is a Sound Blaster XFI titanium HD, which should
>>> have a boost option.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/10/2016 20:52, tim cumings wrote:
>>>> Depending on whether or not your sound card had a mic boost, the
>>>> volume might be too low for a shure sm58. You can test that out. You
>>>> would definitely need phantom power for a condenser mic, unless you
>>>> got a condenser mic that could run on battery as well asphantom power.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/9/2016 3:29 PM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
>>>>> Hello Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>> Wouldn't the volume be too low when recording with a Shure SM58 and
>>>>> mini jack converter?  Also, if I want to use a standard condenser
>>>>> microphone, I'd need a way of providing phantom power.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/10/2016 20:11, tim cumings wrote:
>>>>>> Samuel if you have a mic jack on your computer you probablydon't
>>>>>> need a preamp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/9/2016 1:18 PM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>> I am thinking of trying a Shure SM58 with a minijack adapter for
>>>>>>> recording myself and my screen reader at the same time. However, I
>>>>>>> was wondering, is there a preamp that will connect to the
>>>>>>> microphone jack on my computer?  I'm concerned about using a USB
>>>>>>> one, because if the latency is too noticeable, it will be
>>>>>>> incredibly distracting.  Thank you in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Samuel Wilkins
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Samuel Wilkins
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

-- 
Regards,

Samuel Wilkins

RE: Preamp for Computer

[Hamit Campos]

Ah I see. That's fine. How's that recorder?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 11:49 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Preamp for Computer

Hello Hamit,

I'm afraid it won't work with my computer as I originally thought.  It works
with my Roland R05 recorder though, albeit in mono.


On 10/10/2016 16:10, Hamit Campos wrote:
> How do you use it? Can ya send me a sampel of something captured with it?
> Man the NT1-a and Neal's 744-T was epic. I'd love 1 of those recorders.
> Those things are so epic.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
> Wilkins
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:20 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Preamp for Computer
>
> It sounds quite good for doing things such as reviews.
> On 10/10/2016 03:59, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> What's the Rode M3 sound like? I've heard an NT1-A with a Zoom H4N and
>> even an Olympus 100 and dam that thing's epic!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>> Samuel Wilkins
>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 4:01 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Preamp for Computer
>>
>> I've got a friend who has a Shure SM58, I could borrow his and try it
out.
>> I have a Rode M3 condenser microphone which uses a battery, so that
>> should work.  My card is a Sound Blaster XFI titanium HD, which should
>> have a boost option.
>>
>>
>> On 09/10/2016 20:52, tim cumings wrote:
>>> Depending on whether or not your sound card had a mic boost, the
>>> volume might be too low for a shure sm58. You can test that out. You
>>> would definitely need phantom power for a condenser mic, unless you
>>> got a condenser mic that could run on battery as well asphantom power.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/9/2016 3:29 PM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
>>>> Hello Tim,
>>>>
>>>> Wouldn't the volume be too low when recording with a Shure SM58 and
>>>> mini jack converter?  Also, if I want to use a standard condenser
>>>> microphone, I'd need a way of providing phantom power.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/10/2016 20:11, tim cumings wrote:
>>>>> Samuel if you have a mic jack on your computer you probablydon't
>>>>> need a preamp.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/9/2016 1:18 PM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>> I am thinking of trying a Shure SM58 with a minijack adapter for
>>>>>> recording myself and my screen reader at the same time. However, I
>>>>>> was wondering, is there a preamp that will connect to the
>>>>>> microphone jack on my computer?  I'm concerned about using a USB
>>>>>> one, because if the latency is too noticeable, it will be
>>>>>> incredibly distracting.  Thank you in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Samuel Wilkins
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Samuel Wilkins
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
Regards,

Samuel Wilkins

RE: Preamp for Computer

[Hamit Campos]

How do you use it? Can ya send me a sampel of something captured with it?
Man the NT1-a and Neal's 744-T was epic. I'd love 1 of those recorders.
Those things are so epic.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:20 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Preamp for Computer

It sounds quite good for doing things such as reviews.
On 10/10/2016 03:59, Hamit Campos wrote:
> What's the Rode M3 sound like? I've heard an NT1-A with a Zoom H4N and 
> even an Olympus 100 and dam that thing's epic!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Samuel Wilkins
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 4:01 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Preamp for Computer
>
> I've got a friend who has a Shure SM58, I could borrow his and try it out.
> I have a Rode M3 condenser microphone which uses a battery, so that 
> should work.  My card is a Sound Blaster XFI titanium HD, which should 
> have a boost option.
>
>
> On 09/10/2016 20:52, tim cumings wrote:
>> Depending on whether or not your sound card had a mic boost, the 
>> volume might be too low for a shure sm58. You can test that out. You 
>> would definitely need phantom power for a condenser mic, unless you 
>> got a condenser mic that could run on battery as well asphantom power.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/9/2016 3:29 PM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
>>> Hello Tim,
>>>
>>> Wouldn't the volume be too low when recording with a Shure SM58 and 
>>> mini jack converter?  Also, if I want to use a standard condenser 
>>> microphone, I'd need a way of providing phantom power.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/10/2016 20:11, tim cumings wrote:
>>>> Samuel if you have a mic jack on your computer you probablydon't 
>>>> need a preamp.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/9/2016 1:18 PM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>> I am thinking of trying a Shure SM58 with a minijack adapter for 
>>>>> recording myself and my screen reader at the same time. However, I 
>>>>> was wondering, is there a preamp that will connect to the 
>>>>> microphone jack on my computer?  I'm concerned about using a USB 
>>>>> one, because if the latency is too noticeable, it will be 
>>>>> incredibly distracting.  Thank you in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Samuel Wilkins
>
>
>
>
>

--
Regards,

Samuel Wilkins

RE: Preamp for Computer

[Hamit Campos]

Which is something strange. The external audio interfaces as the pro cards
are called do have Phantum. But ain't that something the PCIE 1s that go in
the back of your pc don't? What the heck? I found that very curious indeed.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim
cumings
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 3:52 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Preamp for Computer

Depending on whether or not your sound card had a mic boost, the volume
might be too low for a shure sm58. You can test that out. You would
definitely need phantom power for a condenser mic, unless you got a
condenser mic that could run on battery as well asphantom power.



On 10/9/2016 3:29 PM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
> Hello Tim,
>
> Wouldn't the volume be too low when recording with a Shure SM58 and 
> mini jack converter?  Also, if I want to use a standard condenser 
> microphone, I'd need a way of providing phantom power.
>
>
> On 09/10/2016 20:11, tim cumings wrote:
>> Samuel if you have a mic jack on your computer you probablydon't need 
>> a preamp.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/9/2016 1:18 PM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I am thinking of trying a Shure SM58 with a minijack adapter for 
>>> recording myself and my screen reader at the same time. However, I 
>>> was wondering, is there a preamp that will connect to the microphone 
>>> jack on my computer?  I'm concerned about using a USB one, because 
>>> if the latency is too noticeable, it will be incredibly distracting.  
>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

RE: Preamp for Computer

[Hamit Campos]

What's the Rode M3 sound like? I've heard an NT1-A with a Zoom H4N and even
an Olympus 100 and dam that thing's epic!

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel
Wilkins
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 4:01 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Preamp for Computer

I've got a friend who has a Shure SM58, I could borrow his and try it out.
I have a Rode M3 condenser microphone which uses a battery, so that should
work.  My card is a Sound Blaster XFI titanium HD, which should have a boost
option.


On 09/10/2016 20:52, tim cumings wrote:
> Depending on whether or not your sound card had a mic boost, the 
> volume might be too low for a shure sm58. You can test that out. You 
> would definitely need phantom power for a condenser mic, unless you 
> got a condenser mic that could run on battery as well asphantom power.
>
>
>
> On 10/9/2016 3:29 PM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
>> Hello Tim,
>>
>> Wouldn't the volume be too low when recording with a Shure SM58 and 
>> mini jack converter?  Also, if I want to use a standard condenser 
>> microphone, I'd need a way of providing phantom power.
>>
>>
>> On 09/10/2016 20:11, tim cumings wrote:
>>> Samuel if you have a mic jack on your computer you probablydon't 
>>> need a preamp.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/9/2016 1:18 PM, Samuel Wilkins wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 I am thinking of trying a Shure SM58 with a minijack adapter for 
 recording myself and my screen reader at the same time. However, I 
 was wondering, is there a preamp that will connect to the 
 microphone jack on my computer?  I'm concerned about using a USB 
 one, because if the latency is too noticeable, it will be 
 incredibly distracting.  Thank you in advance.


>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>

--
Regards,

Samuel Wilkins

RE: Bowers And Wilkins Speakers

[Hamit Campos]

Lol ah girls. Yes I hear this over and over again on home theater geeks. The 
Wife axeptency factor. Lol. So some boys sacrifice half of the story just to 
keep the wife happy. I don't know man. I can kinda see their point but come on 
now, you need true Dolby Atmos to get the full story.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John Gurd
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 7:59 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: RE: Bowers And Wilkins Speakers

Hi Dane
Yes, I've had the following set up for about ten years. 
B CWM8180 left right and centre speakers B MT1 rear speakers Linn Sizmik 
sub-woofer

Sadly, all the above are now obsolete so it's not much help to you. The fact I 
have kept them so long shows I have been very happy with the products. Mind 
you, it could also show I couldn't afford to replace them either! I am still 
very happy with the sound. The centre speaker blew a driver a couple of years 
ago and I was lucky to get a part to replace it as I was warned there weren't 
many left. 

The mistake I made at the time I bought them was having the 3 front speakers 
built into a purpose built media cabinet. We were having the living room 
completely renovated at the time and my wife has always hated my previous floor 
standing speakers with a passion because of their size and the trailing cables. 
She hates wires. She says when I die she will wrap me in all the wire I have 
around the house and bury me in them! So the cabinet was a way of hiding the 
cables. I even had the cables leading to the rear speakers plastered into the 
wall. The problem I have now is that when I have to replace the front speakers 
I will either have to find something the same size that will fit the cabinet or 
get rid of a very expensive and elaborate piece of furniture. Secretly I would 
like to go back to floor standing speakers one day but she will kill me!

John

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 03 October 2016 00:43
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Bowers And Wilkins Speakers

Hi John!
You mention you have some Bowers And Wilkins speakers as part of your system so 
which models do you have? I m looking at their range of floor standing models 
for the lounge, a bit of saving to do to own a pair of those but - if the B 
A5, A7 and Z2 active speaker systems which I ve owned are anything to go by - 
then a year s saving will be well worth the wait, any additional comments?

> On 3 Oct. 2016, at 5:12 am, John Gurd  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim
> I just saw your enquiry. I don't have the Sonos Conect:Amp, but I do have the 
> Sonos Connect. So I don't know how good the Connect Amp is at powering 
> Speakers and How they would sound. I got the Connect which feeds my Arcam 
> AVR750 receiver with a digital signal which in turn powers a 5.1 set of B 
> speakers. I use the Connect with Wi-Fi and listen to streaming media from 
> Apple Music and Amazon. There is never any buffering or dropout. It sounds 
> surprisingly excellent with these music sources. I expected it to sound 
> inferior to my old Logitech Transporter but it doesn't. I never got around to 
> listening to uncompressed music on it yet which I hope should sound even 
> better. The only drawback may be that it can't play HD audio sources by which 
> I mean anything sampled above 48000 or 24bit. But anything at CD quality is 
> very good. 
> 
> As the Connect:Amp has its own amplification stage I can't comment on that 
> side of things from a personal experience. I will say that my other Sonos 
> equipment i.e.: a stereo pair of the small Sonos Play 1 speakers sound very 
> good for their size.
> 
> John
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: 29 September 2016 19:21
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: SonosConnectAmp.
> 
> I don t own one though I certainly will be looking at one in the coming days.
> The Songs connect gets good write-ups and I m looking forward to using one 
> for two reasons, I m looking forward to having a play with the Songs App and 
> I m looking forward to using the digital output on my system with my DAC.
> 
>> On 30 Sep. 2016, at 4:16 am, Jim Noseworthy 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> HiGang:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Can anyone on this list comment about the quality of the Sonos 
>> Connect Amp":?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks all over the place.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 
> 

**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

RE: bluetooth speaker recomendations

[Hamit Campos]

Against the original mini. They said the mini has more bass then the mini 2.
Oh yeah the System 3 has super epic bass. Super crisp highs and everything.
But that 1's big. I know that 1 my sister Johana use to have 1. I listened
to Godzilla 1998 on it. That's why I know the highs were good. Cause when it
does what's called the tornado blast roar the SL system 3 really showed the
hi whistely part of the roar real well. That's how I test for highs. The
Godzilla 1998 tornado blast.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 12:45 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: bluetooth speaker recomendations

That's a fairly general statement but probably true nevertheless.

Lacks some bass but who says so and against what? The Bose Soundlink Mini is
an incredibly tiny speaker so - given that point alone - its bound to lack
some bass when compared to the bigger models such as the Bose Soundlink
itself or the Bowers And Wilkins T7.

Let the truth be told most Bluetooth speaker systems lack bass, typically
the frequency range only goes down to 100HZ these days, not good if you
enjoy your music.

Having said all that however the new Bose Soundlink Mini has increased mid
range and highs and - for Bose - that can only be a really good thing!



On 25/09/2016 2:11 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> 1 thing on the SL Mini 2 I've heard that it lacks some bass. Now I can't
> conferm it 100% since I've only heard it on youtube vids, but just know it
> incase that matters. Yeah the voice guide thing is so epic! I've heard it
> and used it on the soundlink color.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
> Trethowan
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 11:51 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: bluetooth speaker recomendations
>
> I admit to giving up following the Bluetooth speaker market these days as
> there are literally hundreds and hundreds of Bluetooth Speakers out there
in
> all shapes and sizes for pretty much all budgets so in my view you've
really
> got to ask yourself what your exact needs are for a Bluetooth speaker.
> The new Bose SoundlinkMini is supposed to have improved audio over the old
> one, I have the older model and quite like it, wonderful sound for
something
> that small.
> The build quality is very nice to and I believe that build has carried
over
> to the new model, tough aluminum frame.
> It would appear that 95% of Bluetooth speakers out there aren't really
aimed
> at those who enjoy good sound so if good sound is your aim then the market
> narrows considerably when it comes to portable speakers and we find the
size
> going up a little here to accommodate the laws of physics.
> The Bowers and Wilkins T7 I'm pleased to note has dropped in price and
> that's a real portable powerhouse, the party can proceed for around 19
hours
> before the battery runs out.
> The T7 shows off quality sound and you can certainly hear the difference
> between MP3 and Lossless file types if you're using an AptX device paired
> with this thing, truly amazing.
> If you're looking at units incorporating Hands Free speakerphones then
there
> are plenty of those, the new Bose Soundlink Mini being one.
> The Soundlink Mini now has a TTS speech engine on board to guide you
through
> the process of pairing it with your Phone or whatever, a bit of a gimmick
in
> my opinion but its there so make use of it.O One Bluetooth speaker I never
> liked and thought was very much over rated was the Jawbone Jambox, you can
> certainly buy better than that.
> On 25/09/2016 10:56 AM, John Covici wrote:
>> Hi.  What are people recomending for a decent bluetooth speaker which
>> will not break the bank, but has a decent sound?  The Bose has a new
>> one which is cheaper than ths Sound Link II, so I am considering that,
>> but any other suggestions would be appreciated.  The Bose sound is not
>> my favorite.
>>
>
>
>

RE: bluetooth speaker recomendations

[Hamit Campos]

1 thing on the SL Mini 2 I've heard that it lacks some bass. Now I can't
conferm it 100% since I've only heard it on youtube vids, but just know it
incase that matters. Yeah the voice guide thing is so epic! I've heard it
and used it on the soundlink color.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 11:51 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: bluetooth speaker recomendations

I admit to giving up following the Bluetooth speaker market these days as
there are literally hundreds and hundreds of Bluetooth Speakers out there in
all shapes and sizes for pretty much all budgets so in my view you've really
got to ask yourself what your exact needs are for a Bluetooth speaker.
The new Bose SoundlinkMini is supposed to have improved audio over the old
one, I have the older model and quite like it, wonderful sound for something
that small.
The build quality is very nice to and I believe that build has carried over
to the new model, tough aluminum frame.
It would appear that 95% of Bluetooth speakers out there aren't really aimed
at those who enjoy good sound so if good sound is your aim then the market
narrows considerably when it comes to portable speakers and we find the size
going up a little here to accommodate the laws of physics.
The Bowers and Wilkins T7 I'm pleased to note has dropped in price and
that's a real portable powerhouse, the party can proceed for around 19 hours
before the battery runs out.
The T7 shows off quality sound and you can certainly hear the difference
between MP3 and Lossless file types if you're using an AptX device paired
with this thing, truly amazing.
If you're looking at units incorporating Hands Free speakerphones then there
are plenty of those, the new Bose Soundlink Mini being one.
The Soundlink Mini now has a TTS speech engine on board to guide you through
the process of pairing it with your Phone or whatever, a bit of a gimmick in
my opinion but its there so make use of it.O One Bluetooth speaker I never
liked and thought was very much over rated was the Jawbone Jambox, you can
certainly buy better than that.
On 25/09/2016 10:56 AM, John Covici wrote:
> Hi.  What are people recomending for a decent bluetooth speaker which 
> will not break the bank, but has a decent sound?  The Bose has a new 
> one which is cheaper than ths Sound Link II, so I am considering that, 
> but any other suggestions would be appreciated.  The Bose sound is not 
> my favorite.
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