Photos from the rosegarden Sunday

2009-05-14 Thread Larry Colen

On Sunday, John took Angel and I to a rose garden in San Jose, I
finally had a chance to do a quick sort and process on my
photos. Despite the wind, I got a few decent ones:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157618121808920/

I'm still going through the 2700 or so shots I took the previous
weekend in Chicago, so I'm wimping out and just doing the gallery
thing. Yes, I know, flickr sucks.

John, what's the name of the park we were shooting quail in?

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Want to Trade - my DA 10-17 for a DA 12-24

2009-05-14 Thread John Celio

I own a DA 10-17 that I would like to trade for a DA 12-24.

The DA 10-17 used to be Godfrey's, and I rarely use it, so it is in 
excellent condition.  I have the box, caps and soft case for it.


If you have a DA 12-24 you'd like to trade, please let me know.

Thanks,
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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 13 May 2009 23:51 -0500, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has just 
 happened to me; here's the story:
 
 I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's father-in-law
 took 
 the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also made some scans
 of 
 the print and gave them to family members.  I'm just going to come out
 and 
 say it--I'm really irked by this.  I often sign my prints in the lower
 right 
 hand edge, but I didn't on this print.
 
 How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do or
 say?
 


Very.

I guess what you do depends on how much you value that friendship.  I
think I'd probably chalk this up to experience and make it clear in
future that copying is not on.



Cheers

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RE: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Bob W
 Hi Everyone:
 
 I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something 
 that has just 
 happened to me; here's the story:
 
 I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's 
 father-in-law took 
 the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also 
 made some scans of 
 the print and gave them to family members.  I'm just going to 
 come out and 
 say it--I'm really irked by this.  I often sign my prints in 
 the lower right 
 hand edge, but I didn't on this print.
 
 How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you 
 guys do or say?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 Cheers, Christine 

That's definitely below the belt. Ask your friend to tell her father-in-law
that you're unhappy about it, but would be happy to sell him some better
quality prints for a reasonable price. Gently point out that he has broken
the law by copying them, and ask him to return them all to you. 

If that gets you nowhere then there's probably not a lot else you can do
unless you want to take it further on the copyright issue.

Or gauge some scratches in his paintwork.

Bob


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RE: Pentax Ad Copy FAIL

2009-05-14 Thread Bob W
Oh, I dunno. Ad copy is supposed to be memorable.

 
 http://failblog.org/2009/05/13/digital-camera-description-fail/
 
 Right now, a copywriter somewhere is being flogged.
 
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Re: New K body coming... official !

2009-05-14 Thread Thibouille
Not sure, Pentaw may go for:
K-m, K-x (middle betwwen K200D/K20D but upgraded to modern specs of
course) and K-7 at high end.

As for your hands, the K-7 is less large than K10/K20 but taller so
more space for hand than K10/K20. If not good enough, the grip will
cure that problem.

I won't say more but really, this K-7 has no 'usual Pentax'
performance. Quite better :)
Do you like FPSes ? :) :)

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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:51:54PM -0500, Christine  Aguila wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has just 
 happened to me; here's the story:
 
 I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's father-in-law 
 took the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also made some 
 scans of the print and gave them to family members.  I'm just going to come 
 out and say it--I'm really irked by this.  I often sign my prints in the 
 lower right hand edge, but I didn't on this print.
 
 How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do or say?

I'm not trying to make any sort of money off my photos, and pretty
much the only pay I get is people telling me when they like them. So,
on one hand, I'd feel complimented that someone liked my photo well
enough to go to that effort.

On the other hand, part of that would depend on the quality of job
that they did.

It would also depend a bit on what the photo was of. My guess is that
it was a picture of your friend and their spouse, or family. I also
suspect that the Fa-I-L is of the snapshot mindset. That he doesn't
see a lot of value in photos, above and beyond snapshots. As such he
probably didn't feel that he was ripping you off, but if anything he
felt that he was doing family members a favor by giving them a copy of
a nice photo, and was doing you a favor by not asking you to go to the
bother of making duplicate prints.


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Re: Wedding Photographer

2009-05-14 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 07:45:08PM -0400, Christian wrote:
 ---snippage
 wife decided to buy some new pans.  We got a big 12 inch skillet with 
 lid and a set of 10 and 12 omelet pans all made by Calphalon and 
 costing a total of US$110 (to me a LOT of money for pots and pans).
 
 All of a sudden we are able to cook again!  We can control the heat 
 better and everything is coming out s much better.
 
  So, as with photography, the skills of the chef/photographer matter a 
 lot, but the tools make a huge difference too.

some years ago I was given a set of Calphalon, and quite liked it.

However, my favorite cookware is Le Creuset: http://www.lecreuset.com/ 

I've got a couple of dutch ovens and a couple of skillets and they are
wonderful. They have good heat dissipation, and the enamel is a breeze
to clean.

There's a Le Creuset outlet in gilroy, and you can get some amazing
deals there.

 Back to your normal programming...

Embedded Operating Systems?


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Re: PESO: Garden Walk

2009-05-14 Thread AlunFoto
Congrats, Dan!
It was about high time you got something into the Gallery!
Lovely composed, that garden shot.

A blog doesn't have to be anything but meanderings. Trust me... :-)

Or Doug Brewer. Or Boris. Or Scott.

Or Mark Roberts... No wait! Mark's got a purpose. He doesn't count.

Jostein

2009/5/14 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
 Well, I finally got three images accepted into the PENTAX Photo Gallery.

 Also, I am trying to start a photo blog of sorts, although I am not
 really certain what I want to do with it.  I started with the photo
 pages I had on my old Geocities web page, which I had to move, as
 Yahoo is dismantling Geocities.  I'm still struggling with what to do
 and how to do it.  Today, I added my image of the garden walk in San
 Michelle, on the Isle of Capri, that was selected by Pentax.

 In any event, I would appreciate any comments and suggestions, related
 both to this image and to  the style and substance of the blog I am
 trying to set up

 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=djm1963

 Thanks in advance.

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Re: PESO: Grace does Soccer

2009-05-14 Thread AlunFoto
Looks like she has fun with the ball too, though.
Socialising is important for a team sport too, though, isn't it?
Maybe she's a coming star... :-)

Very charming shot. The difficult light does not at all hamper the
spirit of the moment, imo.

Jostein

2009/5/14 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
 Grace is playing soccer this year. Actually, she spends more time
 socializing with the other girls. But she's having fun.

 Here's a pic. Lousy light, but a fun look:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9173806

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Re: OT - Ring My Bell

2009-05-14 Thread AlunFoto
Nono... Just PJ's chilly attitude. :-)

2009/5/14 P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com:
 Global warming...

 William Robb wrote:

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 Subject: Re: OT - Ring My Bell




 That's very cool, Frank.  Congrats!  But how is this OT?



 It's a success story of a photographer who uses Pentax?
 Would someone please tell me why it's snowing again?

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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread paul stenquist
I might be slightly annoyed, but I would pretend not to care. It's not  
worthing losing a friend over a print.


Most people don't understand that to a serious photographer, that  
print is more than just a picture. We consider it personal art. But to  
most non-photographers, it's just a picture, same as you take  
yourself, only nicer and larger. Don't say anything. Be  pleased that  
the father-in-law liked it enough to want to make copies.


Actually, the more I think about it, I might be flattered if that  
happened to me.

Paul
On May 14, 2009, at 12:51 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has  
just happened to me; here's the story:


I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's father-in- 
law took the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also  
made some scans of the print and gave them to family members.  I'm  
just going to come out and say it--I'm really irked by this.  I  
often sign my prints in the lower right hand edge, but I didn't on  
this print.


How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do  
or say?


Thanks in advance.
Cheers, Christine


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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Luka Knezevic-Strika
I am on the paul stenquist end of this rant. Really, I believe
copyleft is the way to go, generally and that the only bad thing about
your case is that he may have made lousy copies of your fine print.
other than that, i don't really think it is a big deal. he did so
unknowing of your problems with it and out of best wishes for all
sides, well, that is at least a presumption you should take unless you
have some prior bad experience with this person. you could tell him
that you'd be happy to give them more nice prints instead, if you
would, otherwise, just forget it and feel appreciated for your art.

best,
luka

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:22 PM, paul stenquist
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I might be slightly annoyed, but I would pretend not to care. It's not
 worthing losing a friend over a print.

 Most people don't understand that to a serious photographer, that print is
 more than just a picture. We consider it personal art. But to most
 non-photographers, it's just a picture, same as you take yourself, only
 nicer and larger. Don't say anything. Be  pleased that the father-in-law
 liked it enough to want to make copies.

 Actually, the more I think about it, I might be flattered if that happened
 to me.
 Paul
 On May 14, 2009, at 12:51 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Hi Everyone:

 I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has just
 happened to me; here's the story:

 I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's father-in-law
 took the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also made some
 scans of the print and gave them to family members.  I'm just going to come
 out and say it--I'm really irked by this.  I often sign my prints in the
 lower right hand edge, but I didn't on this print.

 How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do or say?

 Thanks in advance.
 Cheers, Christine


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RE: EVFs ...too much engery consumption?

2009-05-14 Thread JC OConnell
Unless the EVF is switched on and off, which is not as good as full time
on optical finder,
I dont see how the finder power could not be an issue. LCD displays draw
maximum power
at all times, even when image is all black.

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On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:39 PM, JC OConnell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
 wouldnt an EVF camera eat batteries even worse than flash?

 I dont like the fact that it consumes energy while an optical finder 
 doesnt.

Battery life wasn't a problem with my Olympus C-2100 UZ. The low
resolution screen in the EVF wasn't stellar but the battery life was
fine with 4 AA batteries. Given the EVF is a small LCD and the backlight
can be an LED these days, I suspect the power consumption is negligible
compared to other power eaters like writing to memory cards, image
processing, screw or SDM focus, etc.

I still have the C-2100 UZ and it still works fine. In lens image
stabilization, 10x optical zoom (38-380mm equivalent) and 2 megapixels
of quality along with the EVF. Certainly not a convenient shape though
with the protruding lens and box-like styling.

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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Derby Chang



I agree with Paul. Non-photographers just see a picture as a souvenir or 
a record of an event. Can't see what the fuss is about. They just have 
different priorities. I would just gently point out that if they asked 
nicely, they could have an original print which will be so much 
nicer to look at than a copy of a print. Comparing the difference might 
actually lead them on the way to appreciating your work more.


True story. My father went back to China recently to visit an old school 
friend. He captured a treasured picture with my old Optio S5 I'd given 
him. Red eye, hard shadows against the wall, chroma noise, hotspots and 
all. I cleaned it up a bit and gave him a nice print. I found out just 
in time that he scanned the print through his MFP, printed it out on 
laser copy paper and was about to post it back to his friend. Didn't 
want to trouble me for more prints, he said. I managed to convince him 
I'd be happy to make as many prints as he liked. Priorities, that's all.


FWIW, yes it would irk me no end.

D




paul stenquist wrote:
I might be slightly annoyed, but I would pretend not to care. It's not 
worthing losing a friend over a print.


Most people don't understand that to a serious photographer, that 
print is more than just a picture. We consider it personal art. But to 
most non-photographers, it's just a picture, same as you take 
yourself, only nicer and larger. Don't say anything. Be  pleased that 
the father-in-law liked it enough to want to make copies.


Actually, the more I think about it, I might be flattered if that 
happened to me.

Paul
On May 14, 2009, at 12:51 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has 
just happened to me; here's the story:


I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's 
father-in-law took the print to get it framed, and come to find out, 
he also made some scans of the print and gave them to family 
members.  I'm just going to come out and say it--I'm really irked by 
this.  I often sign my prints in the lower right hand edge, but I 
didn't on this print.


How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do or 
say?


Thanks in advance.
Cheers, Christine


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Re: OT - Ring My Bell

2009-05-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
Pics or it didn't happen ;-)
Congratulation Frank. Totally cool.

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2009/5/13 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 My little show was pushed up by a week (I found this out late last
 week), so I was in Toronto's city hall until late last night mounting
 and hanging and changing my mind and hanging in a different order and
 changing my mind again...

 But as of this morning all 18 prints were hanging in the west rotunda
 of city hall (just in case any of you are going to be in that area
 over the next week or so).  They'll be there until May 21.

 I decided to go with the collection of bicycle bells (I posted them
 here a while ago), but I added some new ones and deleted a few.  Over
 the next day or so I'll put them in a little online gallery so you can
 take a look if you're interested.

 It's still kinda cool looking at actual prints as opposed to something
 on a computer screen.  It's also pretty cool to have stuff hanging up
 where people can see them...

 cheers,
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Re: PESO - Simple Pleasure

2009-05-14 Thread Derby Chang

frank theriault wrote:

Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of riding a bicycle. -- John
F. Kennedy

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2009/05/simple-pleasure.html

Scroll down and click on the pic to make it bigger.

Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

  
I can see why spokeheads, once smitten when young, will always be 
spokeheads. That is a very pleasurable photograph.


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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Jack Davis

How did you find out about this? If it was your friend and was related to you 
in an indignant or apologetic way, I'd ask them to let their father-in-law know 
of your irked reaction. It was likely an innocent compliment to the 
photographer without any thought of copy rights. Not knowing the dynamics of 
the relationships, I'd tend to let it go.

Jack

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:

 From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
 Subject: People Scanning Our Prints
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 9:51 PM
 Hi Everyone:
 
 I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something
 that has just happened to me; here's the story:
 
 I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My
 friend's father-in-law took the print to get it framed, and
 come to find out, he also made some scans of the print and
 gave them to family members.  I'm just going to come
 out and say it--I'm really irked by this.  I often sign
 my prints in the lower right hand edge, but I didn't on this
 print.
 
 How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would
 you guys do or say?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 Cheers, Christine 
 
 
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Re: Want to Trade - my DA 10-17 for a DA 12-24

2009-05-14 Thread Doug Brewer

John Celio wrote:

I own a DA 10-17 that I would like to trade for a DA 12-24.

The DA 10-17 used to be Godfrey's, and I rarely use it, so it is in 
excellent condition.  I have the box, caps and soft case for it.


If you have a DA 12-24 you'd like to trade, please let me know.

Thanks,
John


never thought I'd say this, but I really really like my DA12-24 and 
would not like to part with it,


I had strayed for a while, doing a lot of work with the 43 and 77, which 
are gem lenses, so you understand why I like them, but yesterday for the 
tornado damage work, I got out the 12-24 and damn that's a nice lens.


Guess I'd be a no on the trade, John. Sorry. Plus I already have a 10-17.

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Re: Want to Trade - my DA 10-17 for a DA 12-24

2009-05-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
Your going to need an angel to help you on this one. The DA 12-24  
sells for $260 more than the DA 10-17 at BH.

Paul
On May 14, 2009, at 8:52 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:


John Celio wrote:

I own a DA 10-17 that I would like to trade for a DA 12-24.
The DA 10-17 used to be Godfrey's, and I rarely use it, so it is in  
excellent condition.  I have the box, caps and soft case for it.

If you have a DA 12-24 you'd like to trade, please let me know.
Thanks,
John


never thought I'd say this, but I really really like my DA12-24 and  
would not like to part with it,


I had strayed for a while, doing a lot of work with the 43 and 77,  
which are gem lenses, so you understand why I like them, but  
yesterday for the tornado damage work, I got out the 12-24 and damn  
that's a nice lens.


Guess I'd be a no on the trade, John. Sorry. Plus I already have a  
10-17.


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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
No soup for you!  (No more pictures for the friend.)
Be irritated, be flattered, and let it go.
Put a copywrite notice on the back of your photos.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has just
 happened to me; here's the story:

 I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's father-in-law took
 the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also made some scans of
 the print and gave them to family members.  I'm just going to come out and
 say it--I'm really irked by this.  I often sign my prints in the lower right
 hand edge, but I didn't on this print.

 How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do or say?

 Thanks in advance.
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Re: PESO - Alex Rides!

2009-05-14 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:
 Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote: 


http://mondociclismo.blogspot.com/2009/05/first-place-to-aryeh.html

Funny, my friend Jim has a Cervello and sent me that link before I 
checked my mail here.  Obviously he is following your blog. 


I really 

like the traditional geometry and lugged steel of the 


Colnago Master 

X-lite.  No  offense but I hate the sloping top tube of the 


Cervellos

Me too.  They make carrying sacks of coal deuced difficult.




Here's a picture of Mike on his way home after a hard day picking up nutty
slack:
http://www.vam.ac.uk/images/image/5009-popup.html
Bill Brandt took my photo?  Wait 'til his estate gets the modelling fee 
request.


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Re: OT PESO - Dales Gorge

2009-05-14 Thread mike wilson

David Savage wrote:


2009/5/13 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:


 David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:


Your wish...(~3MB):

http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/0111_lrg.jpg

Not quite full size.


The top half (rocks, not trees) seems to be out of focus.  Is that deliberate?



Yep.


Doesn't work for me.

But I still respect you.

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Re: Pentax Ad Copy FAIL

2009-05-14 Thread mike wilson

So bad, it crashes my browser

Nick Wright wrote:

I saw that earlier. That's a really bad error.

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:04 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote:


http://failblog.org/2009/05/13/digital-camera-description-fail/

Right now, a copywriter somewhere is being flogged.


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Re: Pentax Ad Copy FAIL

2009-05-14 Thread Peter Zalabai
Guerilla Marketing is quite effective way to get attraction by using the 
power of internet and the thousands of 'fun blogs' and 'fun picture 
sites' or YouTube (remember the old, a bit offensive and racist VW Polo 
ad -see link below- that of course wasn't made by Volkswagen? Or was it? :D)


Regards,
.timber

ps.: the ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arfNofxBtfY

P. J. Alling wrote:

Who says this wasn't?



And it'll probably attract more notice that a correct ad would have.

I really wonder how long it will be until companies start making these
kinds of errors on purpose in order to attract attention.



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Re: DA* 60-250 arrived

2009-05-14 Thread Peter Zalabai

Congrats Paul! Can't wait to see pictures with your new 'toy'. :)

Regards,
.timber

paul stenquist wrote:
It showed up just before dark, and I only played with it a bit. But it 
has a wonderful feel. Zero wobble when extended. Solid as a rock.I 
noticed that with the K20d and battery grip, it seems to balance 
perfectly on the tripod foot.


 I shot a bit. The bokeh looks fabulous. First impression is that 
autofocus is right on, and the focus field appears to be flat. I'll 
check that more carefully tomorrow. Perhaps I'll even make a few 
photographs.

Paul

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Re: PESO: Garden Walk

2009-05-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan,
Wonderful photo, easy to see why it made it into the Pentax gallery.
The scene is beautiful with the flowers and walkway, plus
the person and pillars gives it a real 3rd dimension.
Lovely light as well.
Regards, Bob S.

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:18 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Congrats, Dan!
 It was about high time you got something into the Gallery!
 Lovely composed, that garden shot.

 A blog doesn't have to be anything but meanderings. Trust me... :-)

 Or Doug Brewer. Or Boris. Or Scott.

 Or Mark Roberts... No wait! Mark's got a purpose. He doesn't count.

 Jostein

 2009/5/14 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
 Well, I finally got three images accepted into the PENTAX Photo Gallery.

 Also, I am trying to start a photo blog of sorts, although I am not
 really certain what I want to do with it.  I started with the photo
 pages I had on my old Geocities web page, which I had to move, as
 Yahoo is dismantling Geocities.  I'm still struggling with what to do
 and how to do it.  Today, I added my image of the garden walk in San
 Michelle, on the Isle of Capri, that was selected by Pentax.

 In any event, I would appreciate any comments and suggestions, related
 both to this image and to  the style and substance of the blog I am
 trying to set up

 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=djm1963

 Thanks in advance.

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Re: EVFs ...too much engery consumption?

2009-05-14 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: JC OConnell
Subject: RE: EVFs ...too much engery consumption?


 Unless the EVF is switched on and off, which is not as good as full time
 on optical finder,
 I dont see how the finder power could not be an issue. LCD displays draw
 maximum power
 at all times, even when image is all black.

Rechargable batteries are your friend.

William Robb 



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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread mike wilson

Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has 
just happened to me; here's the story:


I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's father-in-law 
took the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also made some 
scans of the print and gave them to family members.  I'm just going to 
come out and say it--I'm really irked by this.  I often sign my prints 
in the lower right hand edge, but I didn't on this print.


How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do or say?


It's not worth the candle to get all het up about it.  The person 
concerned (and this seems to be most folks, these days) does not even 
remotely understand what your concerns could be. If copying work was not 
meant to be, than all the copying devices that pervade our society would 
not be allowed to exist, would they?  I have far too little life left to 
be bothered by these sorts of actions.  If it's something that I 
_really_ want to keep to myself, others don't get to see it.  If it gets 
out of my hands, the reality is that it's public domain.


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Re: DA* 60-250/4 - the first intoxicating tests

2009-05-14 Thread mike wilson

William Robb wrote:

- Original Message - 
From: AlunFoto

Subject: DA* 60-250/4 - the first intoxicating tests




In one cautious sentence:

I think this one has indeed been worth waiting for.




Shut up.
Just STFU.


The Ozzies must be asleep.

HTFU, William.

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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
I'm with Paul on this.  Quite some time back, I came to feel that the
world in general no longer assigns any value to the physical print.
Probably for a variety of reasons including, ease of duplication,
display techniques (web, digital frames, etc.) and the already
mentioned mindset of the snapshot/memory maker.

Because of that, anytime I am dealing with a paying client, I put all
the money to be made into the service of producing the photo, rather
than loading the cost into the prints themselves.  This way, no
matter what they might do about prints (none-digital file,few,lots) I have made 
my
money.

So in this case, as has already been stated, be flattered that he
thought it was good enough to copy and distribute.  You might want to
contact him and let him know that you could provide the original
digital file from which much better prints could be made.  Chances
are that no one who received a print will care about the quality -
including the Father-In-Law.

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Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, May 14, 2009, 3:22:18 AM, you wrote:

ps I might be slightly annoyed, but I would pretend not to care. It's not
ps worthing losing a friend over a print.

ps Most people don't understand that to a serious photographer, that  
ps print is more than just a picture. We consider it personal art. But to
ps most non-photographers, it's just a picture, same as you take  
ps yourself, only nicer and larger. Don't say anything. Be  pleased that
ps the father-in-law liked it enough to want to make copies.

ps Actually, the more I think about it, I might be flattered if that  
ps happened to me.
ps Paul
ps On May 14, 2009, at 12:51 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Hi Everyone:

 I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has  
 just happened to me; here's the story:

 I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's father-in- 
 law took the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also  
 made some scans of the print and gave them to family members.  I'm  
 just going to come out and say it--I'm really irked by this.  I  
 often sign my prints in the lower right hand edge, but I didn't on  
 this print.

 How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do  
 or say?

 Thanks in advance.
 Cheers, Christine


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Re: New K body coming... official !

2009-05-14 Thread P. J. Alling

Thibouille wrote:

Not sure, Pentaw may go for:
K-m, K-x (middle betwwen K200D/K20D but upgraded to modern specs of
course) and K-7 at high end.

As for your hands, the K-7 is less large than K10/K20 but taller so
more space for hand than K10/K20. If not good enough, the grip will
cure that problem.

I won't say more but really, this K-7 has no 'usual Pentax'
performance. Quite better :)
Do you like FPSes ? :) :)
  
How many FPSs', can you give a ball[park figure, say LX with drive speed 
or Canon EOS 1D Mark III speed.  Somewhere in between?  Faster than the EOS?


Hell I can't even see how more than ~6 FPS is even relevant to my 
photography methods, (or lack thereof).  I was kind of disappointed that 
the K10/20D were only 3FPS with a buffer of ~14 raw images when they 
came out.  However for my purposes and for probably 90% of all other 
photographers that's more than good enough. 


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Re: OT - Ring My Bell

2009-05-14 Thread P. J. Alling
A prediction I read last year was that the current Sunspot cycle was 
going to make it a bad year for Wheat farmers in Saskatchewan.  I like 
Irony...


AlunFoto wrote:

Nono... Just PJ's chilly attitude. :-)

2009/5/14 P. J. Alling p_all...@hotmail.com:
  

Global warming...

William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless
Subject: Re: OT - Ring My Bell



  

That's very cool, Frank.  Congrats!  But how is this OT?




It's a success story of a photographer who uses Pentax?
Would someone please tell me why it's snowing again?

William Robb


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Re: OT - Ring My Bell

2009-05-14 Thread Doug Brewer

frank theriault wrote:

My little show was pushed up by a week (I found this out late last
week), so I was in Toronto's city hall until late last night mounting
and hanging and changing my mind and hanging in a different order and
changing my mind again...

But as of this morning all 18 prints were hanging in the west rotunda
of city hall (just in case any of you are going to be in that area
over the next week or so).  They'll be there until May 21.

I decided to go with the collection of bicycle bells (I posted them
here a while ago), but I added some new ones and deleted a few.  Over
the next day or so I'll put them in a little online gallery so you can
take a look if you're interested.

It's still kinda cool looking at actual prints as opposed to something
on a computer screen.  It's also pretty cool to have stuff hanging up
where people can see them...

cheers,
frank


We must have photos of the show.


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Re: PESO: Garden Walk

2009-05-14 Thread Walter Hamler
Hey, always good to know an old Marine. I retired as a W-4, USN type,
but Marines were my favorite people.
Did you ever transpac through Guam back then? I was at the Photo Lab
there, NAS Agana, from 65 to 68. I got some great photo's of a Marine
F-4 that blew a tire on takeoff roll and he creamed into one of the
concrete jbd's at the international airport on the other side of the
field. They both climbed out as the fire trucks were pulling up. I
might scan a few and put on my website.
Anyway, great photo's. Glad you are represented in the Gallery. You deserve it!

Walt

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, I finally got three images accepted into the PENTAX Photo Gallery.

 Also, I am trying to start a photo blog of sorts, although I am not
 really certain what I want to do with it.  I started with the photo
 pages I had on my old Geocities web page, which I had to move, as
 Yahoo is dismantling Geocities.  I'm still struggling with what to do
 and how to do it.  Today, I added my image of the garden walk in San
 Michelle, on the Isle of Capri, that was selected by Pentax.

 In any event, I would appreciate any comments and suggestions, related
 both to this image and to  the style and substance of the blog I am
 trying to set up

 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=djm1963

 Thanks in advance.

 Dan.


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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe
Late on the thread, and being able to read other ideas do have some 
advantages.


I am very annoyed by this behavior. Specially when it's not a family pic 
and looks this is the case. Assuming you gave your friend one of your 
photos - the one you took because you ARE a photographer and not because 
he asked you or because it's his kid on the photo.


I'd talk to my friend. Tell him (or her, makes no diff) that I am 
serious about my photos, and that's including the exact presentation, 
and that any repro is not ok with me, because: 1) it's MY work and I'm 
the one entitled to copy or not, 2) it's MY work and I'm the one in 
charge of the quality, 3) it's MY work and the moment I chose to present 
him I didn't include anyone else in the present but him. And yes, the 
choice IS mine, since it is MY work.


Do sign you photos, date and in case of gifts, speaking for myself I'd 
be very honored to see it properly dedicated (assuming that's the word) 
to me. Because the gesture IS important, and that's a photo you gave me 
- not one I bought. If my something (Dad is no fool and a photographer 
himself), in charge of framing my gift would do some xerox, scanning or 
even photographing my gift to repro, I would beat him hard. Not only 
because it's your work, but also because it's MY gift...


OTOH, it IS a cumpliment, of sorts, and that kind of behavior - 
copyright bypass - is deep into most minds. If they download the Mona 
Lisa, whyinhell not to xerox that pretty pic??? They don't do it with 
bad stuff - and every master gets copied sooner or later.


LF

Christine Aguila escreveu:

Hi Everyone:

I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has 
just happened to me; here's the story:


I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's father-in-law 
took the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also made some 
scans of the print and gave them to family members.  I'm just going to 
come out and say it--I'm really irked by this.  I often sign my prints 
in the lower right hand edge, but I didn't on this print.


How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do or say?

Thanks in advance.
Cheers, Christine


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Re: Garden Walk

2009-05-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Christine.

I like this shot, but it was not one that I had hoped would make the
gallery.  I was really hoping they would take my House of the Sun
and Jellyfish images that I placed in the PDML photo book.  Both got
lots of nice comments here, but both were rejected by Pentax.  In
addition to the Garden Walk image, they took another of my images of
the crater of Haleakala, one that is not quite as abstract:

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTISTsubSection=1309043subSubSection=5251829language=EN

They also took my image of the staircase in the Barnegat Lighthouse.
I had shown it here, and most people thought that the light was too
distracting.  I cropped it to eliminate the light, but that was
rejected.  Then, I cloned out the light, but that was also rejected.
Surprisingly, when I went back to the original, uncropped and
unmanipulated version, it made the gallery:

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTISTsubSection=1309043subSubSection=5094821language=EN

I can't really figure it out, but I'm happy they finally took three of
my images.

Thanks again for looking and commenting.

Dan

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Dan:  Big congrats on the PPG--very nice Garden Walk photo--it's worthy.
 cheers, Christine




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 Subject: PESO: Garden Walk


 Well, I finally got three images accepted into the PENTAX Photo Gallery.

 Also, I am trying to start a photo blog of sorts, although I am not
 really certain what I want to do with it.  I started with the photo
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 Yahoo is dismantling Geocities.  I'm still struggling with what to do
 and how to do it.  Today, I added my image of the garden walk in San
 Michelle, on the Isle of Capri, that was selected by Pentax.

 In any event, I would appreciate any comments and suggestions, related
 both to this image and to  the style and substance of the blog I am
 trying to set up

 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=djm1963

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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe
Good point on the paying client - for a lng time I was considering 
the pro discount in the lab just a poor compensation for the extra job 
of taking the order and delivering the prints. The moment our local labs 
started offering the same price to any customer I started delivering the 
negs on most jobs.


About the quality, their probable inability to perceive the low quality 
of the repro wouldn't make it easier, since I able and wouldn't enjoy 
the knowledge of my work being watched as a poor repro. Signed or not, 
still important to me or I wouldn't care to present it.


LF

Bruce Dayton escreveu:

I'm with Paul on this.  Quite some time back, I came to feel that the
world in general no longer assigns any value to the physical print.
Probably for a variety of reasons including, ease of duplication,
display techniques (web, digital frames, etc.) and the already
mentioned mindset of the snapshot/memory maker.

Because of that, anytime I am dealing with a paying client, I put all
the money to be made into the service of producing the photo, rather
than loading the cost into the prints themselves.  This way, no
matter what they might do about prints (none-digital file,few,lots) I have made 
my
money.

So in this case, as has already been stated, be flattered that he
thought it was good enough to copy and distribute.  You might want to
contact him and let him know that you could provide the original
digital file from which much better prints could be made.  Chances
are that no one who received a print will care about the quality -
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Re: PESO: Garden Walk

2009-05-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Hi swabbie!

No, I never made it to Guam.  I passed through Okinawa instead, on my
way to Da Nang, Iwakuni and Chu Lai.

I'd love to see your F-4 photos and any other Navy shots from those days.

Dan

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey, always good to know an old Marine. I retired as a W-4, USN type,
 but Marines were my favorite people.
 Did you ever transpac through Guam back then? I was at the Photo Lab
 there, NAS Agana, from 65 to 68. I got some great photo's of a Marine
 F-4 that blew a tire on takeoff roll and he creamed into one of the
 concrete jbd's at the international airport on the other side of the
 field. They both climbed out as the fire trucks were pulling up. I
 might scan a few and put on my website.
 Anyway, great photo's. Glad you are represented in the Gallery. You deserve 
 it!

 Walt

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Well, I finally got three images accepted into the PENTAX Photo Gallery.

 Also, I am trying to start a photo blog of sorts, although I am not
 really certain what I want to do with it.  I started with the photo
 pages I had on my old Geocities web page, which I had to move, as
 Yahoo is dismantling Geocities.  I'm still struggling with what to do
 and how to do it.  Today, I added my image of the garden walk in San
 Michelle, on the Isle of Capri, that was selected by Pentax.

 In any event, I would appreciate any comments and suggestions, related
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 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=djm1963

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Re: PESO - Watching It Happen

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe
Very interesting, Marco. Somehow I wish the furry one and the man were 
both facing the same direction, but the man's attention is enough - 
since the woman's face is not so sharp and noticeable. Good grab!


LF

Marco Alpert escreveu:

http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso12.html

Comments, as always, welcomed.

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Re: OT - Ring My Bell

2009-05-14 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: OT - Ring My Bell


A prediction I read last year was that the current Sunspot cycle was going 
to make it a bad year for Wheat farmers in Saskatchewan.  I like Irony...

Apparently two years on my kill file wasn't long enough. I was hoping your 
mean spirit would have mellowed somewhat.

Bye-bye butthead.



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Re: PESO: Garden Walk

2009-05-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bob!

I had several shots near this location, most with my wife in the
frame.  None of those, however, came out quite right, perhaps partly
because of the light rain.  As we were leaving San Michelle (which is
a fascinating place), I returned to the walkway, and framed this shot
as a stranger was entering the garden.

Dan

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan,
 Wonderful photo, easy to see why it made it into the Pentax gallery.
 The scene is beautiful with the flowers and walkway, plus
 the person and pillars gives it a real 3rd dimension.
 Lovely light as well.
 Regards, Bob S.

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 Congrats, Dan!
 It was about high time you got something into the Gallery!
 Lovely composed, that garden shot.

 A blog doesn't have to be anything but meanderings. Trust me... :-)

 Or Doug Brewer. Or Boris. Or Scott.

 Or Mark Roberts... No wait! Mark's got a purpose. He doesn't count.

 Jostein

 2009/5/14 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com:
 Well, I finally got three images accepted into the PENTAX Photo Gallery.

 Also, I am trying to start a photo blog of sorts, although I am not
 really certain what I want to do with it.  I started with the photo
 pages I had on my old Geocities web page, which I had to move, as
 Yahoo is dismantling Geocities.  I'm still struggling with what to do
 and how to do it.  Today, I added my image of the garden walk in San
 Michelle, on the Isle of Capri, that was selected by Pentax.

 In any event, I would appreciate any comments and suggestions, related
 both to this image and to  the style and substance of the blog I am
 trying to set up

 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=djm1963

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Re: Wedding Photographer

2009-05-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:13 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 14/05/2009, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 14/05/2009, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:
 Christian wrote:

  So, as with photography, the skills of the chef/photographer matter a
 lot, but the tools make a huge difference too.

 Of course, but it takes both.  Being a schmuck of a photog and buying a
 gazillion bucks of gear isn't going to result in great photography, on
 average.

 And here's me about to pull the trigger on a Nikon 14-24mm f2.8 to
 make my photos better...

 My poor credit card, not 10 minutes ago, took another hit...

 Die hard Nikon users call is NAS, but I still call it enablement.

Now I know your not married.:-)

Dave

 :-)

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Re: PESO: Grace does Soccer

2009-05-14 Thread David J Brooks
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 Grace is playing soccer this year. Actually, she spends more time
 socializing with the other girls. But she's having fun.

Thats what it's all about, at first.:-)

 Here's a pic. Lousy light, but a fun look:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9173806

Good shot. Well lit and nice and crisp. That Grace smile is there.

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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread William Robb
Sort of a follow up on this topic which may be of interest to Canadian
subscribers.
My understanding is that the big box store from Bentonville, the one Sam
Walton started no longer honours copyrights in Canada.
The lab I am in has an anything goes policy that allows the customer to scan
and print whatever they like. All they have to do is click yes on the
copyright ownership screen and they can print whatever they like off our
machines.
I presume, though can't confirm, that this is a corporate wide policy for
the Canadian arm of the company.

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Re: Pentax Ad Copy FAIL

2009-05-14 Thread David J Brooks
I knew i was not using my lithium batteries to there full potential.

Dave

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 http://failblog.org/2009/05/13/digital-camera-description-fail/

 Right now, a copywriter somewhere is being flogged.

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Re: DA* 60-250 arrived

2009-05-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Perhaps I'll even make a few photographs.
 Paul

You'd never make it on the pentax forums. More talk all day long, like
AM 640.:-)

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Re: New K body coming... official !

2009-05-14 Thread Bruce Walker

P. J. Alling wrote:


Hell I can't even see how more than ~6 FPS is even relevant to my 
photography methods, (or lack thereof).  I was kind of disappointed that 
the K10/20D were only 3FPS with a buffer of ~14 raw images when they 
came out.  However for my purposes and for probably 90% of all other 
photographers that's more than good enough.



I got so good at living within the FPS and buffer limits of the K100D 
(RAW buffer is a whopping 3!), that when I started to shoot with my K20D 
it felt -- and still does -- completely limitless.  And I'm going after 
action shots (musicians on-stage) where i have to use continuous AF.


Anything better that the K20D would be enabling new realms of shooting, 
like sports, rather than helping me out with existing.


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GESO - Ring my Bell - the show

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
You've seen most of these before as a GESO called Bells and Bells and
Bells and Bells.

I've taken a few away, and added a one or two that I caught last
weekend (I really like the dome that looks like it came from an
Eastern Orthodox Catholic church);  here are the final 18 that are
currently up at Toronto's City Hall:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/ring-my-bell.html

All Pentax, all the time!

;-)

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Re: OT - Ring My Bell

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:


 We must have photos of the show.

I always listen to the listmeister:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/ring-my-bell.html

;-)

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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread David J Brooks
I'd be irked.

However, this is the kind of thing i go through.:

http://www.highviewfarms.ca/clinics.html

Look close at the two pictures on this one.

I have emailed them but no response yet. They did buy two prints from
me last December, not these, but its still gives them no right to do
this.

This is were is lose major sales.

Dave

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has just
 happened to me; here's the story:

 I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's father-in-law took
 the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also made some scans of
 the print and gave them to family members.  I'm just going to come out and
 say it--I'm really irked by this.  I often sign my prints in the lower right
 hand edge, but I didn't on this print.

 How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do or say?

 Thanks in advance.
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Re: DA* 60-250 arrived

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe
Glad to read that! So when are you going to pick a new K7 to pair with 
the new DA*? We would pleased to help you, taking good an proper care of 
any camera you throw in the cold... ;-)


LF (don't forget to post the actual pics)

paul stenquist escreveu:
It showed up just before dark, and I only played with it a bit. But it 
has a wonderful feel. Zero wobble when extended. Solid as a rock.I 
noticed that with the K20d and battery grip, it seems to balance 
perfectly on the tripod foot.


 I shot a bit. The bokeh looks fabulous. First impression is that 
autofocus is right on, and the focus field appears to be flat. I'll 
check that more carefully tomorrow. Perhaps I'll even make a few 
photographs.

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Re: Photos from the rosegarden Sunday

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe
Nice gallery, Larry. I like #05781 #05870 and #05944 more than the 
others - very interesting. Light seems harsh in some others...


LF

Larry Colen escreveu:

On Sunday, John took Angel and I to a rose garden in San Jose, I
finally had a chance to do a quick sort and process on my
photos. Despite the wind, I got a few decent ones:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157618121808920/

I'm still going through the 2700 or so shots I took the previous
weekend in Chicago, so I'm wimping out and just doing the gallery
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Re: Pentax Ad Copy FAIL

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:04 PM, John Celio n...@neovenator.com wrote:
 http://failblog.org/2009/05/13/digital-camera-description-fail/

 Right now, a copywriter somewhere is being flogged.

 John

Well, camera or not, I'm pretty much always ready.  In fact, I'm often
told I'm full of it - something I can hardly disagree with.

As for the ad iteself, personally I think it's brilliant, and I'd like
to see Canikon top that one!!

;-)

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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks
Subject: Re: People Scanning Our Prints


I'd be irked.

However, this is the kind of thing i go through.:

http://www.highviewfarms.ca/clinics.html

Look close at the two pictures on this one.

I have emailed them but no response yet. They did buy two prints from
me last December, not these, but its still gives them no right to do
this.

This is were is lose major sales.


Do we have the protection of the DMCA in Canada? If so, you can send a 
takedown notice to his ISP and they have to take it down.

William Robb 



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Re: PESO: Grace does Soccer

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:55 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Grace is playing soccer this year. Actually, she spends more time
 socializing with the other girls. But she's having fun.

 Here's a pic. Lousy light, but a fun look:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9173806

Okay, let's all practice together:

GOOOALLL!

Love the tongue between the teeth - she's really concentrating!

Fun shot.

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Re: PESO: Garden Walk

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe

Congrats, Daniel! And a very interesting photo.

Interesting page, with good images that could perhaps get easier access 
with some extra linkage at the top of the page. Good work with the 
Spotmatic too, in less than ideal conditions... :-)


LF

Daniel J. Matyola escreveu:

Well, I finally got three images accepted into the PENTAX Photo Gallery.

Also, I am trying to start a photo blog of sorts, although I am not
really certain what I want to do with it.  I started with the photo
pages I had on my old Geocities web page, which I had to move, as
Yahoo is dismantling Geocities.  I'm still struggling with what to do
and how to do it.  Today, I added my image of the garden walk in San
Michelle, on the Isle of Capri, that was selected by Pentax.

In any event, I would appreciate any comments and suggestions, related
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Re: Geso Toronto Zoo

2009-05-14 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Christine.

I have added a few more.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9172661

Dave

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 HI Dave:  Boy, that 2nd one is some shot--and given the circumstances, I'd
 say you did a pretty good job.  Can't say I've given much thought to the
 notion of fighting peacocks--never much thought of them in that way, but
 Vanity, Vanity, all is Peacock Vanity :-).  Cheers, Christine



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 Liz and I had another charter to the Toronto Zoo today. Great day,
 sunny and warm.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=911374

 I know the back ground in the second one is bad, thus the title, but i
 was following
 the pair with the camera when the one tried to fight the other, so i
 had one chance.

 K10D, DA F 50-200 and minor LR2 adjustments.

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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Ken Waller

I'd probably be more honored than irked.

I'd talk to the f-i-l  tell him that if he would have asked, I would have 
gotten a print or two. If you have sold copies of that image, you could tell 
him so. It doesn't sound like he did it to screw you.


You might start putting copyrights on your images, it probably won't stop 
copying but you can then tell the recipient that it is illegal to do so.


I don't give away my prints to anyone outside my immediate family  they 
know how I view my photography. BTW I'm not talking about snaps or people 
photos.



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- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net


Subject: People Scanning Our Prints



Hi Everyone:

I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has just 
happened to me; here's the story:


I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's father-in-law 
took the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also made some 
scans of the print and gave them to family members.  I'm just going to 
come out and say it--I'm really irked by this.  I often sign my prints in 
the lower right hand edge, but I didn't on this print.


How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do or say?

Thanks in advance.
Cheers, Christine



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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe

Sad. How long did you notice, and how - if I may ask?

My major problem was re-use in other formats and eternal use. One local 
cachaça brand used the very same photo for more than 6 years. Of course 
they got so offended with my contacts they never asked for another 
photo... just to put me in in my place, ungrateful youngster that should 
be grateful because my photo was being exposed all over the city... I 
should even pay them for the opportunity.


LF

William Robb escreveu:
- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks

Subject: Re: People Scanning Our Prints


I'd be irked.

However, this is the kind of thing i go through.:

http://www.highviewfarms.ca/clinics.html

Look close at the two pictures on this one.

I have emailed them but no response yet. They did buy two prints from
me last December, not these, but its still gives them no right to do
this.

This is were is lose major sales.


Do we have the protection of the DMCA in Canada? If so, you can send a 
takedown notice to his ISP and they have to take it down.


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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has just
 happened to me; here's the story:

 I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's father-in-law took
 the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also made some scans of
 the print and gave them to family members.  I'm just going to come out and
 say it--I'm really irked by this.  I often sign my prints in the lower right
 hand edge, but I didn't on this print.

 How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do or say?

 Thanks in advance.
 Cheers, Christine

I think for me how I react would depend on what the print was of.  If
it was a family snapshot sort of thing I wouldn't worry about it.
It's not something that's of saleable value to you, something you did
specifically for these people, and I guess I can understand that they
view it as theirs to do with what they please.

I'd let it go and chalk it up to experience and never give those
people another print again.

;-)

If, on the other hand, it's an artful print, something that would be
obviously (to them) saleable or otherwise of interest to the general
population, then I would have a gentle chat with them about copyright
laws and of how you gifted them that print alone, not the rights to
further distribute it.  Look at it as an opportunity to educate the
ignorant so they don't do it again to you or anyone else.

And, as others have said, if you don't have one already, get a
copyright stamp and stamp the back of every photo you distribute.

cheers,
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Re: Wedding Photographer

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Doug Franklin
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 Christian wrote:

  So, as with photography, the skills of the chef/photographer matter a
 lot, but the tools make a huge difference too.

 Of course, but it takes both.  Being a schmuck of a photog and buying a
 gazillion bucks of gear isn't going to result in great photography, on
 average.

I'd love to do a whole wedding with a Holga or a Lomo...

;-)

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Re: PESO: Grace does Soccer

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe
Great catch, Paul... lovely expression. The grass looks too tall for 
their ages, tho... ;-)


LF

paul stenquist escreveu:
Grace is playing soccer this year. Actually, she spends more time 
socializing with the other girls. But she's having fun.


Here's a pic. Lousy light, but a fun look:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9173806

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Re: PESO - Watching It Happen

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com wrote:
 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso12.html

 Comments, as always, welcomed.

I don't know why I find this so compelling, but I do.  Lovely rendering.

A winner in my books!

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Re: OT - Ring My Bell

2009-05-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Frank!
Where's the pictures of the photos hanging on the wall!
Regards, Bob S.

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 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:


 We must have photos of the show.

 I always listen to the listmeister:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/ring-my-bell.html

 ;-)

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Re: Photos from the rosegarden Sunday

2009-05-14 Thread Larry Colen
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:05:01PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
 Nice gallery, Larry. I like #05781 #05870 and #05944 more than the 

Thanks. 

 others - very interesting. Light seems harsh in some others...

It was a sunny day, as the pink hue on the back of my neck for the
next few days would attest. It was also a bit breezy.

Maybe the next time I shoot flowers in a garden I should bring a
flash.

 
 LF
 
 Larry Colen escreveu:
 On Sunday, John took Angel and I to a rose garden in San Jose, I
 finally had a chance to do a quick sort and process on my
 photos. Despite the wind, I got a few decent ones:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157618121808920/
 
 I'm still going through the 2700 or so shots I took the previous
 weekend in Chicago, so I'm wimping out and just doing the gallery
 thing. Yes, I know, flickr sucks.
 
 John, what's the name of the park we were shooting quail in?
 
 
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Re: GESO - Ring my Bell - the show

2009-05-14 Thread Jack Davis

Thanks for the show, Frank. Congratulations and enjoy the well deserved 
satisfaction that comes with such an honor. :)
(I see you removed the one for the big boys. ;O)

Jack

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 Subject: GESO - Ring my Bell - the show
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 Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 7:59 AM
 You've seen most of these before as a
 GESO called Bells and Bells and
 Bells and Bells.
 
 I've taken a few away, and added a one or two that I caught
 last
 weekend (I really like the dome that looks like it came
 from an
 Eastern Orthodox Catholic church);  here are the final
 18 that are
 currently up at Toronto's City Hall:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/ring-my-bell.html
 
 All Pentax, all the time!
 
 ;-)
 
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Re: Photos from the rosegarden Sunday

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe

Sunblock??? :-)

LF

Larry Colen escreveu:

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:05:01PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
Nice gallery, Larry. I like #05781 #05870 and #05944 more than the 


Thanks. 


others - very interesting. Light seems harsh in some others...


It was a sunny day, as the pink hue on the back of my neck for the
next few days would attest. It was also a bit breezy.

Maybe the next time I shoot flowers in a garden I should bring a
flash.


LF

Larry Colen escreveu:

On Sunday, John took Angel and I to a rose garden in San Jose, I
finally had a chance to do a quick sort and process on my
photos. Despite the wind, I got a few decent ones:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157618121808920/

I'm still going through the 2700 or so shots I took the previous
weekend in Chicago, so I'm wimping out and just doing the gallery
thing. Yes, I know, flickr sucks.

John, what's the name of the park we were shooting quail in?


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Re: PESO - Watching It Happen

2009-05-14 Thread Ken Waller

Nice capture aptly titled.
A minor nit - I'd give more space from the people's heads along the top to 
the top edge.


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Subject: PESO - Watching It Happen



http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo07/peso12.html

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Re: Geso Toronto Zoo

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe
Interesting pics indeed, agree on the background but the timing is very 
good - and like Train Zoo and that little cat, too. Looks  a nice day to 
be outdoors.


LF

David J Brooks escreveu:

Liz and I had another charter to the Toronto Zoo today. Great day,
sunny and warm.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=911374

I know the back ground in the second one is bad, thus the title, but i
was following
the pair with the camera when the one tried to fight the other, so i
had one chance.

K10D, DA F 50-200 and minor LR2 adjustments.

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Re: PESO - Plum Twig

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe

Very interesting, Jostein! Post more, will you?

LF

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DA* 60-250 focus tests

2009-05-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
I tested autofocus and field flatness at f4 and several focal lengths.  
Camera on a tripod. Flat field test was a shot of a wooden panel with  
grain. The focus adjustment test was done with an 18x 12 print of a  
360 dpi scaled target I made in PhotoShop and printed on the R2400 at  
highest resolution. I've found that targets downloaded from the web  
are so lo-res as to be useless.


The focus field appears to be perfectly flat at 60mm and 250 mm. The  
autofocus is very close, so I don't think I'll adjust it. It appeared  
to be right on at 60mm and registered  a wee bit of front focus at  
250mm. I've found that none of my zooms are identical in terms of  
focus error at wide and long ends. The 60-250 seems to be the closest  
yet. I think I'll go take some pictures.

Paul
On May 14, 2009, at 10:56 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:41 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:

Perhaps I'll even make a few photographs.

Paul


You'd never make it on the pentax forums. More talk all day long, like
AM 640.:-)

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Re: GESO - the terrible beauty

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe
Really sorry to read that Doug... Highly disturbing images, in special 
Merry Christmas - did you talk to the owners? Those are the photos I 
really don't wish to take - death and destruction. Still that's part of 
life, and the gallery's title is proper.


Hope family and friends - and fellow citizens - are as well as possible 
in the circunstances. Best wishes, friend!


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Re: OT - Ring My Bell

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Frank!
 Where's the pictures of the photos hanging on the wall!
 Regards, Bob S.

Oh, those pix!

I'll be there on the weekend during the day when the light's good to take them.

It was dark and the light was horrible when I finished putting them up
the other night.

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Re: Wedding Photographer

2009-05-14 Thread Christian

frank theriault wrote:



I'd love to do a whole wedding with a Holga or a Lomo...



Frank, if you did a wedding with a Holga it would probably be the most 
interesting wedding photography ever done.  At least it would be 
different to the same old crap that every wedding photog does these days.


As a matter of fact, when the wife and I renew our vows (someday in 
Vegas at a drive by wedding chapel) I'll fly you in to do the pictures 
with a Holga.  Don't think I won't do it...


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Re: GESO - Ring my Bell - the show

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thanks for the show, Frank. Congratulations and enjoy the well deserved 
 satisfaction that comes with such an honor. :)
 (I see you removed the one for the big boys. ;O)


Thanks, Jack.

I really wanted to go with that pin up girl, but the background was
just too busy.  Also, the lens I had on the body that day was my
Vivitar S1 24-48mm which does not focus close at all, so that bell was
much smaller in the frame than the others.  It wasn't sharp enough to
crop and even with cropping that busy background was still there, so I
dumped it.

Too bad, because I really liked that bell - kind of a one-of-a-kind, I think.

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Re: GESO - Ring my Bell - the show

2009-05-14 Thread Luiz Felipe

Very good Frank, congrats!

LF

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You've seen most of these before as a GESO called Bells and Bells and
Bells and Bells.

I've taken a few away, and added a one or two that I caught last
weekend (I really like the dome that looks like it came from an
Eastern Orthodox Catholic church);  here are the final 18 that are
currently up at Toronto's City Hall:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/ring-my-bell.html

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Time Lapse - Galactic Ballet

2009-05-14 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

Another from my trip to Karijini National Park, taken on the final night:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3531464204/

The 239, 30 second exposure, images that make up this sequence were
shot over 4 hours. At which point the freshly charged battery ran out
of juice :-)

I lack to tools to do a proper editing job (sequence assembled in
Quicktime)  the quality on Flickr isn't the best.

Because I slept a swag (lower right of frame) that was what I feel
asleep looking at every night. Looking up at that sky is humbling.

If there is enough interest I can upload a copy of the original
Quicktime .mov file, but it's pretty weighty at about 19MB.

Enjoy,

Cheers,

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Re: Photos from the rosegarden Sunday

2009-05-14 Thread Bruce Walker

Larry Colen wrote:

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:05:01PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:


others - very interesting. Light seems harsh in some others...


Larry, that was what struck me about these too, I'm afraid. If roses had 
eyes, in many of these shots they'd be squinting or squeezed shut. :-)


Really liked lrc05760. Technically, I thought you got lrc05955 quite 
well-exposed. I've had a lot of trouble with exposure on all-white 
petals. I either blow them out or underexpose the whole frame.




It was a sunny day, as the pink hue on the back of my neck for the
next few days would attest. It was also a bit breezy.

Maybe the next time I shoot flowers in a garden I should bring a
flash.


Yes; I've had great success with HSS and really fast shutters. But it 
takes two Pentax flashes to do wirelessly, and that makes the K20D a 
very heavy thing to hand-hold!


You might want to consider getting a partner to hold a diffuser for you. 
 I'm planning to try one of those Lastolite tri-grips that I've been 
reading about lately.


Last summer I got my wife to hold a black umbrella over a cactus flower 
in full sun.  To my great amazement it worked! I got a very nice macro 
in soft light.


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Re: Time Lapse - Galactic Ballet

2009-05-14 Thread Christian

Much like my ex-wife, I hate you more and more every day, Savage.

that is too f-ing cool.

Post a link to the original .mov file.


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David Savage wrote:

G'day All,

Another from my trip to Karijini National Park, taken on the final night:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3531464204/

The 239, 30 second exposure, images that make up this sequence were
shot over 4 hours. At which point the freshly charged battery ran out
of juice :-)

I lack to tools to do a proper editing job (sequence assembled in
Quicktime)  the quality on Flickr isn't the best.

Because I slept a swag (lower right of frame) that was what I feel
asleep looking at every night. Looking up at that sky is humbling.

If there is enough interest I can upload a copy of the original
Quicktime .mov file, but it's pretty weighty at about 19MB.

Enjoy,

Cheers,

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Re: Geso Toronto Zoo

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:16 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Liz and I had another charter to the Toronto Zoo today. Great day,
 sunny and warm.

 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=911374

 I know the back ground in the second one is bad, thus the title, but i
 was following
 the pair with the camera when the one tried to fight the other, so i
 had one chance.

 K10D, DA F 50-200 and minor LR2 adjustments.

All cool shots, Dave.  I really like the monkey in silhouette.  I also
like the fighting peacocks.  The kids looking on in the background add
to it IMHO.

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Re: New K body coming... official !

2009-05-14 Thread Thibouille
 How many FPSs', can you give a ball[park figure, say LX with drive speed or
 Canon EOS 1D Mark III speed.  Somewhere in between?  Faster than the EOS?

No way like EOS 1D, this is not the arket for Pentax (yet?).
But LX-like (or MX-like if you prefer ;). That may be only when grip
attached however, informations are still scarce at the moment.

Mmm anybody needs to take some magnesium pills? ;)

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Re: Time Lapse - Galactic Ballet

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:36 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 G'day All,

 Another from my trip to Karijini National Park, taken on the final night:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3531464204/

 The 239, 30 second exposure, images that make up this sequence were
 shot over 4 hours. At which point the freshly charged battery ran out
 of juice :-)

 I lack to tools to do a proper editing job (sequence assembled in
 Quicktime)  the quality on Flickr isn't the best.

 Because I slept a swag (lower right of frame) that was what I feel
 asleep looking at every night. Looking up at that sky is humbling.

 If there is enough interest I can upload a copy of the original
 Quicktime .mov file, but it's pretty weighty at about 19MB.


Amazing!

My computer probably wouldn't like the mov file, so I likely wouldn't
try opening it.

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Re: PESO: Garden Walk

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
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 Well, I finally got three images accepted into the PENTAX Photo Gallery.

 Also, I am trying to start a photo blog of sorts, although I am not
 really certain what I want to do with it.  I started with the photo
 pages I had on my old Geocities web page, which I had to move, as
 Yahoo is dismantling Geocities.  I'm still struggling with what to do
 and how to do it.  Today, I added my image of the garden walk in San
 Michelle, on the Isle of Capri, that was selected by Pentax.

 In any event, I would appreciate any comments and suggestions, related
 both to this image and to  the style and substance of the blog I am
 trying to set up

 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=djm1963

 Thanks in advance.

That's a wonderful photo, certainly worthy of inclusion on the Pentax
Gallery.  Congrats!

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Plum Twig

2009-05-14 Thread AlunFoto
Hey Luiz,
My day job is very demanding at the moment, so I can only hope to find
time to do so.
I envy Stenquist the time to test properly...

Jostein

2009/5/14 Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br:
 Very interesting, Jostein! Post more, will you?

 LF

 AlunFoto escreveu:

 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/05/plum-twig.html

 Bill Robb, this link is specially for you:
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Re: PESO - Plum Twig

2009-05-14 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Frank. :-)

Jostein

2009/5/13 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:55 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/05/plum-twig.html

 Bill Robb, this link is specially for you:
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 I like the austere, simple composition.  The light/shade is lovely.

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Re: Time Lapse - Galactic Ballet

2009-05-14 Thread Marco Alpert

That's fabulous! And yes, please upload the .mov file.

   - Marco

On May 14, 2009, at 9:36 AM, David Savage wrote:


G'day All,

Another from my trip to Karijini National Park, taken on the final  
night:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3531464204/

The 239, 30 second exposure, images that make up this sequence were
shot over 4 hours. At which point the freshly charged battery ran out
of juice :-)

I lack to tools to do a proper editing job (sequence assembled in
Quicktime)  the quality on Flickr isn't the best.

Because I slept a swag (lower right of frame) that was what I feel
asleep looking at every night. Looking up at that sky is humbling.

If there is enough interest I can upload a copy of the original
Quicktime .mov file, but it's pretty weighty at about 19MB.

Enjoy,

Cheers,

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Re: OT - Ring My Bell

2009-05-14 Thread P. J. Alling
Apparently two years in my kill file weren't long enough either, you 
still don't know how to take a joke.


William Robb wrote:
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From: P. J. Alling

Subject: Re: OT - Ring My Bell


  
A prediction I read last year was that the current Sunspot cycle was going 
to make it a bad year for Wheat farmers in Saskatchewan.  I like Irony...



Apparently two years on my kill file wasn't long enough. I was hoping your 
mean spirit would have mellowed somewhat.


Bye-bye butthead.



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Re: New K body coming... official !

2009-05-14 Thread AlunFoto
2009/5/14 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com:

 Mmm anybody needs to take some magnesium pills? ;)

U sure u don't mean Lithium? :-)

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Re: Time Lapse - Galactic Ballet

2009-05-14 Thread Doug Brewer

David Savage wrote:

G'day All,

Another from my trip to Karijini National Park, taken on the final night:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3531464204/



Enjoy,

Cheers,

Dave


you suck

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how many mSec between frames without flipping the mirror?

2009-05-14 Thread Larry Colen
It seems to me that it should be possible to expand dynamic range by
firing off two (or three) frames on the same shutter press. It
wouldn't work for sports, but for many shots even the motion in 1/5
second (assuming 5 FPS) would be acceptable. If the mirror is the
limiting factor, maybe 1/50 second rather thant 1/5 second between
frames would be doable.

Especially since a lot of the time when I have rough dynamic range
issues, I'm already shooting at something like 1/10 second, so two
frames of 1/10 second and 1/80 or 1/160 second would be a good match,
and the stutter between the two frames would be negligable compared
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Re: PESO - Plum Twig

2009-05-14 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: AlunFoto
Subject: Re: PESO - Plum Twig


Thanks Frank. :-)

Jostein

2009/5/13 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:55 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2009/05/plum-twig.html

 Bill Robb, this link is specially for you:
 http://turl.no/3lk

 I like the austere, simple composition. The light/shade is lovely.

Must not look...

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Re: Time Lapse - Galactic Ballet

2009-05-14 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David Savage
Subject: Time Lapse - Galactic Ballet


 G'day All,

 Another from my trip to Karijini National Park, taken on the final night:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3531464204/

 The 239, 30 second exposure, images that make up this sequence were
 shot over 4 hours. At which point the freshly charged battery ran out
 of juice :-)

 I lack to tools to do a proper editing job (sequence assembled in
 Quicktime)  the quality on Flickr isn't the best.

 Because I slept a swag (lower right of frame) that was what I feel
 asleep looking at every night. Looking up at that sky is humbling.

 If there is enough interest I can upload a copy of the original
 Quicktime .mov file, but it's pretty weighty at about 19MB.


Pretty cool stuff there David.

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Re: OT - Ring My Bell

2009-05-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/5/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

 pretty cool to have stuff hanging up
where people can see them...

I'm really proud of you Frank - I hope it goes well and savour the
limelight, you deserve it ;-)

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Re: how many mSec between frames without flipping the mirror?

2009-05-14 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Larry Colen
Subject: how many mSec between frames without flipping the mirror?


 It seems to me that it should be possible to expand dynamic range by
 firing off two (or three) frames on the same shutter press. It
 wouldn't work for sports, but for many shots even the motion in 1/5
 second (assuming 5 FPS) would be acceptable. If the mirror is the
 limiting factor, maybe 1/50 second rather thant 1/5 second between
 frames would be doable.

 Especially since a lot of the time when I have rough dynamic range
 issues, I'm already shooting at something like 1/10 second, so two
 frames of 1/10 second and 1/80 or 1/160 second would be a good match,
 and the stutter between the two frames would be negligable compared
 with the blur.

Look into HDR photography. Done right, it looks pretty natural. Done 
imaginatively, it looks completely surreal.

William Robb



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Re: New K body coming... official !

2009-05-14 Thread Graydon
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 07:31:54PM +0200, AlunFoto scripsit:
 2009/5/14 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com:
  Mmm anybody needs to take some magnesium pills? ;)
 
 U sure u don't mean Lithium? :-)

Magnesium is important in proper nerve function; maybe it's supposed to
help with resolve?

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Re: Time Lapse - Galactic Ballet

2009-05-14 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:36:17AM +0800, David Savage wrote:
 G'day All,
 
 Another from my trip to Karijini National Park, taken on the final night:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3531464204/

That does not suck.

 
 The 239, 30 second exposure, images that make up this sequence were
 shot over 4 hours. At which point the freshly charged battery ran out
 of juice :-)
 
 I lack to tools to do a proper editing job (sequence assembled in
 Quicktime)  the quality on Flickr isn't the best.
 
 Because I slept a swag (lower right of frame) that was what I feel
 asleep looking at every night. Looking up at that sky is humbling.
 
 If there is enough interest I can upload a copy of the original
 Quicktime .mov file, but it's pretty weighty at about 19MB.

I'm interested.

 
 Enjoy,
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: OT PESO - Dales Gorge

2009-05-14 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 David Savage wrote:
 .

 The (insert subject here) seems to be out of focus.  Is that deliberate?

 Yep.

 DS

 there. now it fits everything.

It's worked for me for years!

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Re: Geso Toronto Zoo

2009-05-14 Thread P. J. Alling

Calling that Gorilla a dud might cause him to take umbrage.

David J Brooks wrote:

Thanks Christine.

I have added a few more.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9172661

Dave

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
  

HI Dave:  Boy, that 2nd one is some shot--and given the circumstances, I'd
say you did a pretty good job.  Can't say I've given much thought to the
notion of fighting peacocks--never much thought of them in that way, but
Vanity, Vanity, all is Peacock Vanity :-).  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: Geso Toronto Zoo




Liz and I had another charter to the Toronto Zoo today. Great day,
sunny and warm.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=911374

I know the back ground in the second one is bad, thus the title, but i
was following
the pair with the camera when the one tried to fight the other, so i
had one chance.

K10D, DA F 50-200 and minor LR2 adjustments.

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Re: People Scanning Our Prints

2009-05-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/5/09, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'd very much like to know everyone's views about something that has just
happened to me; here's the story:

I gave a nice print--as a gift--to a friend.  My friend's father-in-law took
the print to get it framed, and come to find out, he also made some scans of
the print and gave them to family members.  I'm just going to come out and
say it--I'm really irked by this.  I often sign my prints in the lower right
hand edge, but I didn't on this print.

How irked would you guys be?  What, if anything, would you guys do or say?

I would say that you will possibly put a friendship in jeopardy if you
make a fuss.

Breathe deep, gather your thoughts, learn from your experience and let
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