Re: softboxes and eggcrates

2012-06-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 20, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Good point, they've got more details there.

OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Bob W
part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. Ladies gentlemen - give it up for... ...Mr. Adolf

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing

Re: PESO -- New from old.

2012-06-21 Thread Bruce Walker
I like the tones and framing. But I'd prefer more DoF to make this really work. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:22 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing special, really.  I kind of liked the way this old tree trunk had become a planter of sorts.

Re: PESO - Heading Your Way

2012-06-21 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Nice, good detail and the wake make it Thanks, Dave - and thanks to everyone for the comments. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Dave On Wed, Jun

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread Jack Davis
Works for me, Walt. Foreground has great detail and , while busy, I don't find   the background to be a problem.   Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com/ - Original Message - From: Walt Gilbert

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Windows? Tested in Advance? Two incompatible terms. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice; I like it a lot. Great composition, nice bokeh. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the

Re: pesos keeping cool today

2012-06-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like the elephant image. It looks like it's trying to decide whether to charge the camera or beg for a peanut. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:52 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:45 PM, David J Brooks

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Bruce Walker
Silly me. ;-) On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Windows?  Tested in Advance? Two incompatible terms. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ I don't know how much more you could push the ISO with the K20D. Sigh. Walt, take it from me: 400 ISO is _not_

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread William Robb
On 21/06/2012 12:58 AM, Bob W wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing Windows Phone 8. Funny thing is if

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
I use Win7 at work and have a Mac at home and I have no strong preference. I'd like to see MS challenge Apple simple because I don't' like to see any company become too dominant. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:02 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/06/2012 12:58 AM, Bob W

Re: PESO's new

2012-06-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
The extreme cyclist and the patriotic wedding are my favs. Nicely done. On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting jn289 jn...@verizon.net: Had a computer crash, was not on for a while. Any way in this folder the top six are new.

Re: softboxes and eggcrates

2012-06-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bruce Walker Larry, be sure and check out http://fotodioxpro.com/ for info too. Good point, they've got more details there. ?It's weird that they have separate speedrings for alienbees and for white lightnings, and other companies don't. Maybe they just wanted to reduce confusion by

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 6/21/2012 12:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: On 6/20/2012 11:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 6/21/2012 6:26 AM, Jack Davis wrote: Works for me, Walt. Foreground has great detail and , while busy, I don't find the background to be a problem. Thanks, Jack! It's tough not to get a fairly busy background when that mimosa tree is in full blossom. It's a pretty garish bit of flora.

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 6/21/2012 7:28 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Very nice; I like it a lot. Great composition, nice bokeh. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola Thank you, Dan! I've been pleasantly surprised with the bokeh from that lens -- and, well, just about everything about it,

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 6/21/2012 7:49 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ I don't know how much more you could push the ISO with the K20D. Sigh.

Re: softboxes and eggcrates

2012-06-21 Thread Bruce Walker
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker Larry, be sure and check out http://fotodioxpro.com/ for info too. Good point, they've got more details there. ?It's weird that they have separate speedrings for alienbees and for white

PESO: Another Mimosa/Bumblebee shot

2012-06-21 Thread Walt Gilbert
Hi all, Just wanted to post this shot that escaped my eye the first time through the batch I took yesterday. It's a pretty severe crop, but I was happy with the detail I managed to get out of that cheapo 70-300. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412599286/ K20D, Promaster

PESO - PAD - Burlington Building Reflection - Print-a-Day-20

2012-06-21 Thread George Sinos
This is number 20 in the series Print-a-Day for 30 Days. http://georges.posterous.com/burlington-building-reflection-print-a-day-20 An exterior shot of the Burlington Building. You saw an interior detail in Print-a-Day-3. This is a beautiful old building with a lot of interesting detail

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread kwaller
That is not the worst picture I've seen this week. Sounds like a MARK! to me. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread George Sinos
Love the vivid colors in this one. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:15 AM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: That is not the worst picture I've seen this week. Sounds like a MARK! to me. Kenneth Waller

Re: pesos keeping cool today

2012-06-21 Thread Igor Roshchin
Thu Jun 21 01:52:18 EDT 2012 David Mann wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:45 PM, David J Brooks wrote: They have a bit of a mist falling from a fake umbrella tree, and this one was utilizing it today: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15956175 I also have a soft spot for

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Igor Roshchin
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Bob W pdml at web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing

Re: PESO - PAD - Burlington Building Reflection - Print-a-Day-20

2012-06-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Pylon steps on the reflection of the building. Without the title, I don't know what this picture is about. Can you move to get the pylon out of the shot? Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:13 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: This is number 20 in the series Print-a-Day for 30

Re: PESO - PAD - Burlington Building Reflection - Print-a-Day-20

2012-06-21 Thread George Sinos
I'll be going back to shoot the building several more times.. I don't remember being able to move much, but it can certainly be reframed. I have a feeling I could reach forward and use that pylon for a camera support. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net

Re: Don't mean nothin'

2012-06-21 Thread John Sessoms
On Jun 20, 2012, at 5:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Anyway, today they had a Pentax K-r with an 18-55 ($399) along with a 50-200 ($299). First time I've seen a Pentax camera in a pawn shop in many a year. That's not a bad price. What city is this in? Raleigh, NC Local independent camera

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread steve harley
on 2012-06-21 7:02 William Robb wrote Funny thing is if it weren't for Jobs pretending he was the Second Coming every time he had something to say to his public I might actually have considered a Mac product. that's what turned me off to religion … So far I'm hearing very good things about

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no surprise to see someone else announcing

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:02 AM, William Robb anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: Funny thing is if it weren't for Jobs pretending he was the Second Coming every time he had something to say to his public I might actually have considered a Mac product. Your loss. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Pretty - like the mimosa against the blue bokeh - wish the bee had turned around for you - I dont think the bee need be sharper ann On 6/21/2012 00:24, Walt Gilbert wrote: First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 6/21/2012 12:11 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on stage, so it's no

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread Walt Gilbert
Thank you, Ann. As I look at it in the light of a new day, I find it less objectionable myself. -- Walt On 6/21/2012 12:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Pretty - like the mimosa against the blue bokeh - wish the bee had turned around for you - I dont think the bee need be sharper ann On

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Bob W pdml at web-options.com wrote: part of Apple's appeal seems to have come from Steve Jobs and the cool way he managed product announcements. Somehow Steve Ballmer was never quite as effective on

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Darren Addy
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: In Star Trek TNG, back in the late 80's something that looks basically like an iPad was the standard data display, computer interface device. Granted, they only existed as fiction, just like Uhura's bluetooth headset.

Re: softboxes and eggcrates

2012-06-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 21, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker Larry, be sure and check out http://fotodioxpro.com/ for info too. Good point, they've got more details there. ?It's weird that they have

RE: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Walt Gilbert First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit sharper, but I though maybe the blur would

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread Walt Gilbert
Thanks, George! That mimosa does put off some very vibrant colors. -- Walt On 6/21/2012 11:21 AM, George Sinos wrote: Love the vivid colors in this one. gs George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:15 AM,

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 6/21/2012 12:25 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Walt Gilbert First off, apologies for the horrible pun of a title. Now, onto the photo. I took it today at the mimosa tree in my front yard. I did some experimenting to see what kind of setup I need. I would've liked the bee to have been a bit

OT - if you feel like donating your photos to Intel or playing expensive lottery

2012-06-21 Thread Igor Roshchin
Just in case you missed it on dpreview or elsewhere: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/06/21/Intel-and-Vincent-Laforet-promote-time-lapse-and-stills-contest https://d1ncmqs035wa42.cloudfront.net/other/1340157276-1281.pdf Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Don't mean nothin'

2012-06-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: David Mann On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Anyway, today they had a Pentax K-r with an 18-55 ($399) along with a 50-200 ($299). First time I've seen a Pentax camera in a pawn shop in many a year. I used to see them all the time in the days when I popped occasionally

Re: softboxes and eggcrates

2012-06-21 Thread John Sessoms
From: Bruce Walker On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:55 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bruce Walker Larry, be sure and check out http://fotodioxpro.com/ for info too. Good point, they've got more details there. ?It's weird that they have separate speedrings for alienbees and

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Igor Roshchin
Thu Jun 21 13:21:21 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/apple?before=1340251077 (And I meant to provide the direct link to the image http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5y878Y9fj1rsi9gfo1_1280.jpg ) (I am not

RE: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Bob W
Two things I enjoy about that set of photos: 1. The world pisses itself like an excited dog. That's a Wheatfieldism if ever I heard one, and beautifully descriptive of the market's reaction to Mac stuff. 2. Both Jobs and Ballmer clearly model themselves on Picard's intelligent, high-domed

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Thu Jun 21 13:21:21 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/apple?before=1340251077 (And I meant to provide the direct link to the image

Re: Don't mean nothin'

2012-06-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I love Pawn Stars of the History Channel. Those guys get some very interesting offers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:42 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: David Mann On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The Apple Newton pedated Microsoft's crappy attempt at a tablet by several years. Both were simply ahead of their time. Timing is quite important in marketing success. What Jobs achieved was real and substantial, despite what his many critics like to believe. Among other great things, Apple

OT - Lens Chess Set

2012-06-21 Thread Igor Roshchin
Wow! http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon/lenses/supertelephoto/lensrentals-chess-set for less than $10k for 7 days, you can play chess with photo lenses. (No Pentax lenses are damaged in the game.) Or you can purchase it for just over $151k (is that including $10k, - as in RTO, or not?)

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Larry Colen
And on the subject of bitches http://xkcd.com/54/ also http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#Science On Jun 21, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Thu Jun 21 13:21:21 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jun 21, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

RE: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread J.C. O'Connell
MS isnt dominant already? Something like 90% of computers run windows OS. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steven Desjardins Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:33 AM

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Jeffery Smith
The market for Mac and the market for Windows are sort of mutually exclusive, and that's fine with me. I would prefer that they not compete with one another, as MS likes to kill off competition. They destroyed the entire market for personal information managers by offering Outlook free of

Re: OT - Lens Chess Set

2012-06-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Now that's a silly thing... Y'all know that the ONLY way to play chess properly is with human chess pieces. ]'-) G On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Wow! http://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon/lenses/supertelephoto/lensrentals-chess-set for less than $10k

RE: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I like it! Not the sharpest photo, but the composition, colors and that delightful bee all do their part to make a wonderful photo! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert

RE: PESO - PAD - Burlington Building Reflection - Print-a-Day-20

2012-06-21 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Beautiful. cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com Sent: June 21, 2012 6/21/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - PAD - Burlington Building

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Anthony Farr
On 22 June 2012 07:07, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: The Apple Newton pedated Microsoft's crappy attempt at a tablet by several years. Both were simply ahead of their time. Timing is quite important in marketing success. The Newton was a PDA rather than a computer. It was

Re: OT: no Jobs...

2012-06-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Microsoft's first tablet was just as worthless. There were no apps, and that is what produces the utility of the iPad and its knock-offs. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 June 2012

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread Walt Gilbert
Thank you, Frank! I was happy to see a keeper in the bunch -- a bee keeper, if you will. -- Walt On 6/21/2012 8:34 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: I like it! Not the sharpest photo, but the composition, colors and that delightful bee all do their part to make a wonderful photo! cheers,

Re: pesos keeping cool today

2012-06-21 Thread David Mann
On Jun 22, 2012, at 4:22 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: David Mann wrote: I also have a soft spot for elephants. ... _from_ elephants? ;-) That might explain a few things! Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: PESO: Mimosa Buzz

2012-06-21 Thread David Mann
On Jun 22, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jun 20, 2012, at 9:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7412081522/ I don't know how much more you could push the ISO with the