Jeff,
Caring and being a jerk are not necessarily the same thing.
Bruce
Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 10:19:25 PM, you wrote:
J - Original Message -
J From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
J To: David Chang-Sang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
J Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:25 AM
J Subject:
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Dan Scott wrote:
Do you have a link for any info on the GT-9800F that is in English?
I tried Babelfish, but most of the info on the page appears to be texted
rendered in images rather than text their computers can attempt to translate.
Actually babelfish works well for
Keep also in mind that eg. Niepche, who produced the first photographic
image, was a graphics artist. His research in light sensitive chemicals
basically began with a wish to find a more practical etching method for his
graphical plates.
Reproduceable art was already present in many forms when
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
Anyone have any experience with and comments on the Stofen Omni Bounce? I
would be using it on a 360 FGZ flash. I'm still trying to find ways to
soften and diffuse flash output particularly up close on portraits etc.
I found OmniBounce worked very
- Original Message -
From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But I guess with the advent of such fine equipment as could be delivered
from the Asahi optical co., it all changed for the better... (on topic
alibi...:-))
oh, well...
suppose I didn't need that in an OT thread...
:-)
Jostein
According to Mark Roberts and Bojidar Dimitrov (Thank's !!) i have write
my (French) personal page on this modification:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/Photo/multizone.htm
I used a non destructive method while isolating contacts with adhesive
ribbon. It must be resistant and thin, i use Kapton.
I
Good morning all,
I have just deleted the last 400 messages in my pdml inbox. The Texas
Exhibition thread and its offshoots were getting on my nerves.
Don
Dr E D F Williams
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002
Williams,
Perhaps that fractal program I've seen advertised, I've forgotten the name,
could be used to enlarge *some* files to make it possible to make bigger
prints? I have no experience of enlarging files, but maybe it would work?
Perhaps someone on the list know about this. I'd be interested.
Of course not - that's the point of post-modernism, that you cannot
observe anything because the very act of observation changes it - in
fact you may never be certain that anything really exists, only that
you may or may not observe it, and if you do it's not what you
thinketc. etc. etc
gfen wrote:
I haven't figured out the best way to hand them files, though, I know it
prints at 300dpi, but I don't knwo if I should give them 300dpi .tifs, or
1200dpi .tifs (1200 is the highest my crappy flatbed gives me, it also
gives me massive amounts of what I can only assume are newton
Pål Jensen wrote:
Well, I'm considering a film scanner as well. Something that can scan
medium format in addition to 35mm slides. A Nikon 8000 is out of the
question due to its price.
The guys at my local camera shop have told me that the Nikon 8000 had a
few problems. At least all the ones
Frits Wüthrich wrote:
ratio you also could express it in dB. I am just comparing those two light
levels here. If it was 10 stops as in your example, the ratio would be
1000, or 30dB.
A factor of 1000 is actually 60dB. The formula is dB = 20 log(ratio).
Just being picky :)
Cheers,
- Dave
Don,
Ummmjust a curious question, why did you tell us this?
You don't have to answer this if you find it invasive, but how did 400 old
messages of that thread bother you? How did deletion help you? Perhaps it
could help others. It was a crazy thread. Certainly, if new messages on
the
Hi all,
I'm unsubscribing for a few days while I take the train northwards for
the long weekend. I do not want to come home to 1200 email messages :)
I'll be back early next week...
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Hey folks,
I'm quite curious here. How many of you took some formal training in
regards to photography? Was it a university arts degree, or a community
college course, or something else, like training under a professional or
having a wise friend show you the tricks. Or is it simply many years
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Rob Studdert wrote:
Well if you've seen any images out of Bali in the last ten days of so
the teams of evidence gathering personel all seem to have digicams in
hand, I haven't seen a film camera yet.
Not to disagree or anything but... if you are as addicted to 'crime' TV
I think the 1280 and 1290 use an ink cartridge with a chip in it. This
stops you using third party inks. Not a great problem unless you want
to use the true black and white inks that specialist companies make. If
you do a lot of black and white, the 1270 is best I think.
A word on pigment
I got the MZ3 gold one to fit my Sigma EF-430 ST and it is a perfect fit
for the 360FGZ too - without extra fixings. I will double check this
tonight before anyone rushes out and buys one on my word.
Havent used it much yet though. This thread has reminded me I must try
it out properly. If it
Now thats debateable...
Feroze
- Original Message -
From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: What's happening with the list?
Well, isn't that better than getting digests full of messages from Brad
Dobo? ;-)
I know, I was so happy that someone was finally
talking about cameras even if its one of the
others ones, ha. Its not hard, used both the dynax 9 and
dynax 5 and a cannon eos3, bloody good bodies,
pity about the lenses. I'd rather have a cheap MZS
and really good pentax lenses than the dynax 9
Was it 'Real Fractals' or 'Pure Fractals'? I'll look it up in the meantime.
I think it's called 'Genuine Fractals', but I've never used it.
However, you stiall can't add any new information with it. All you can
do is make the expanded file look smooth instead of pixelated.
-Scott
Now I'm quite hurt, see my emoticon? ;-(
Brad Dobo ;p
- Original Message -
From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: What's happening with the list?
Now thats debateable...
Feroze
- Original Message
Well done!
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:30 PM
Subject: Deletion fixes all
Good morning all,
I have just deleted the last 400 messages in my pdml inbox. The Texas
Exhibition thread and
-Original Message-
From: Scott Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: ceturtdiena, 2002. gada 24. oktobr 12:04
Was it 'Real Fractals' or 'Pure Fractals'? I'll look it up in the
meantime.
I think it's called 'Genuine Fractals', but I've never used it.
However, you stiall
I'm quite curious here. How many of you took some formal training in
regards to photography? Was it a university arts degree, or a community
college course, or something else, like training under a professional or
having a wise friend show you the tricks. Or is it simply many years of
simple
My Dear Brad,
The first message about the Texas exhibition was about 400 messages down and
I simply couldn't be bothered to sort them out before deleting. It was my
way of saying I'd had enough and a superfluous message to those not taking
part. The thread had degenerated and was/is about to go
Scott,
I had an idea that the program could (intelligently) fit in extra pixels to
expand an image as well. I haven't found it yet. I'm busy cleaning up my
drives. Maybe I'm wrong about the interpolation, but if it does that it
might be quite useful - within limits of course
Don
Dr E D F
Brad,
But you don't have 'emoticons' going around in your head, as it has been
suggested I have.
Don
Dr E D F Williams
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002
- Original Message -
From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
So what you saying is things are back to normal?
Feroze
- Original Message -
From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: law and image
Daniel,
Few of DeChaso's last dozen messages make any sense at all. This
Thanks William, now I know how little
I knew about how little everybody knows, though
I still don't know if I wanted to know. But its
good to know anyway cause you never know
when you will need to know
Feroze
- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
All epson cartridges have chips, thats why you can't refill
it. There is a company called Inktech that makes
epson refilled cartridges though, they buy blank ones
and fill it with ink they buy in bulk from epson, lexmark,
Hp etc and sell it under their brand name. I don't seem to get as
much
I'm only formally trained in Graphic design
and fashion design. But they teach your compostion,
golden rules, colour and related stuff regardless
of which art you get into.
Around here you can get a 3 year diploma
at a technikon in photography or can get registered
with the Professional
There was an argument, damm I missed it,
all I got was some mail from the PDML legal
department, and lawyers aren't allowed to flame
Feroze
- Original Message -
From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PDML (Pentax) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:25 AM
Subject: Why
Try www.scantips.com for a whole list of
tips regarding dpi, scan resolution and stuff.
Image dpi and actual print resolution is
commonly mistaken as the same thing
Your scanner probally only true scans at 300dpi
and is scanning 1200 dpi interpolated. Can you fiddle
with your line screen
Theres a smiley, its sideways, goes like this
- Original Message -
From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: What's happening with the list?
Now I'm quite hurt, see my emoticon? ;-(
Brad Dobo ;p
-
I shoot Delta 3200 at 1600 as well, but process to Delta's 3200 specs.
I've been using it in D-76 straight up but have also had success with
T-Max developer. I made some 11x14s of my daughter performing a violin
solo that I had shot on Delta 3200 with my 6x7, and they're as fine
grained as 35mm
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, William Robb wrote:
Anyone have a good HC110 recipie to PULL process Tri-X iso
100 (forgot to
set the film speed).
What speed did you shoot it at?
100.
Although, its old, so I'm hoping its natural degradtion combined with the
fact that its only 1 2/3rd stop over what I
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Thibault GROUAS wrote:
I would do 5-6 mins depending on contrast with rodinal 1+50 but sorry I
never used HC110. Ilford Perceptol diluted 1+3 is a good one for pull
Bill gave me an Xtol reciepe (there must be a catchy word for this I
just don't know about, yet), but I'm
If you get enough of these customer encounters it might
be worth while to have photographic
examples on display that show what you get with small
file sizes when you try to get enlarged
prints.
Ken Waller
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 06:19:12 -0700 (PDT), David
Chang-Sang wrote:
Umm..
Yes I am
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not quite so. Practically any tool, that can resize images using
bilinear or spline/bicubic interpolations, makes the resulting image
smooth (I know only one tool that can't do it - Microsoft Paint :).
some do it better than others, usually
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think the 1280 and 1290 use an ink cartridge with a chip in it. This
stops you using third party inks. Not a great problem unless you want
to use the true black and white inks that specialist companies make. If
you do a lot of black and
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scott,
I had an idea that the program could (intelligently) fit in extra pixels to
expand an image as well. I haven't found it yet. I'm busy cleaning up my
drives. Maybe I'm wrong about the interpolation, but if it does that it
might be quite
GROAN!
Norm Baugher wrote:
That's because the other messages aren't 'real'... G
Norm
Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
I'm getting few digests with most of the messages
from Chaso DeChaso.
???
--
Daniel J. Matyola mailto:djm;stanleypmlaw.com
Stanley, Powers Matyola
- Original Message -
From: Brad Dobo
Subject: Photographic Training
Hey folks,
I'm quite curious here. How many of you took some formal
training in
regards to photography? Was it a university arts degree, or a
community
college course, or something else, like training under a
Chris wrote:
Not to disagree or anything but... if you are as addicted to 'crime' TV
programmes such as CSI, Silent Witness, Dalziel Pascoe, etc as my
flipping family seem to be then all you tend to see is film cameras being
used by forensics/pathologists.
In the news coverage of the sniper
- Original Message -
From: Dr E D F Williams
Subject: Re: A funny problem with digital
Scott,
Okay. According to all I've read this afternoon on the web
about Genuine
Fractals it seems to be able to do what I thought - resize
without messing
things too badly. One author writes
test4
Poor Brad,
Don't be silly. I never once said I objected to bad language. You got it
wrong then and still have it wrong. You'd better dig some more, amongst your
12693 messages, and find out what really happened. But even if we were all
to start swearing like troopers the FAQ allows for this. It
test3
grumble
Hi, Tom
No, the old is not going to work. The lens must be
kept with the diafragm closed and locked (a position
Nikon's lenses have that is a rough equivalent to
Pentax's A position), since aperture is controlled
from body in that very basic model.
The 50mm 1.8 is very good optically, bokeh a bit
wheee
On Thursday 24 October 2002 13:41, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote:
That would be for voltage. Light is power, so 10 log.
BR
Yup, nothing to ad.
--
Frits Wüthrich
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wasn't thinking of selling images to a stock agency but sell images from
stock for editorial use. The internet is potential powerful presentation
and marketing tool.
Pål
having just done it myself, i have to offer that you will get very few
they hold the ink cartridge and touch the contacts on the cartridge and
don't remove or access the chip at all. i don't see how more specific you
can get.
Herb...
Hi David,
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:52:00 +1300, David A. Mann wrote:
Pl Jensen wrote:
Well, I'm considering a film scanner as well. Something that can scan
medium format in addition to 35mm slides. A Nikon 8000 is out of the
question due to its price.
The guys at my local camera shop have
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, tom wrote:
Not that I know of, but he's always finding stuff like that. He seems
to be the PDML deal-meister
I've already told him we need to setup a hotline so he can just directly
access my funds..
I'm looking for flash with these characteristics to use with my ZX-L:
1. TTL
2. Autofocus assist (the red spot beam from another thread)
3. Under $50 US
I thought I had found such a flash with the Vivitar 728. However, when it arrived from
BH, the manual noted that the autofocus assist works
My sister has a N50 (I think) with some crappy zoom lens. I want to
get her a 50.
- Do the older non-af 50's work on this camera?
- IS the AF 50/1.8 optically ok? I know it's got pretty crappy build
quality, but if the optics are ok and close-focusing is good it might
be the ticket.
I know this
test
Not for stock photos ,Pal, but to try and sell my horse pictures to
riders i cannot get in touch with.I have a small personal page with
somewere around 50-70 images on it.Every once in a while i post
something on some equine BB's and i get some sales from it.
Not enough to retire just yetg
Jeff wrote:
A couple of years ago I purchased a deal from Henry's, for 10 2CR5's over a
five years period.
At that time I owned a Z-1p a Pro70. Both cameras were sold since, but I'm
still gettng these batteries regularly.
I have now 2 of them and 2 more to come, but no cameras for them.
If
-Original Message-
From: gfen [mailto:gfen;infotainment.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: The circle is complete :)
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, tom wrote:
You could probably put a decent darkroom together for $300. Hell,
Collin B. could
Herb wrote:
stock use usually requires a huge number of your photos to make it worth
their while to talk to you. do you have a large number of photos? does the
place that you were reading say how many photos from an individual are
considered the minimum? reason i ask is that the places i have
I'm sure i will Norm.The whole class gets into it 100%.
Dave
Begin Original Message
From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:14:54 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The circle is complete :)
Great Dave, keep at it. Go for your own darkroom, you'll
James.I beleive the list was around $675-699 Can for quite a
while.Jeff
reported seeing them at a computer store in the GTA last month for
around $500 or less.If they are coming out with a 3200,i would
assume the price will dip to sellof the 2450 stocks.
Dave
Begin Original Message
Dan,
I might send you the initial release just to see if it breaks on
pShop 6. Would that be ok?
Also, do you know anyone with an ICE- or FARE-enabled scanner?
I'd like to know how PMI stacks up. I doubt if it's as good,
but I'm curious. I've used ONE scanner and ONE printer in
my digital
LMAO...
Norm
Dr E D F Williams wrote:
Chaos,
I can do better than this with one of those Auto-Haiku programs that were in
vogue in the MS DOS days and may still be around for all I know. But you're
plonked - I'm sorry.
Don
Dr E D F Williams
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's
Great Dave, keep at it. Go for your own darkroom, you'll appreciate the
flexibility it offers.
Norm
David Brooks wrote:
dev class #5 snipped
D'oh.Pushed to 6400.
Thanks,its still here ready to mail.:)
Dave
Begin Original Message
From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I did not know Delta 6400 existed, or
did you just push the 3200 to 6400?
(Btw, the money order is in the mail, you should have it by now or
soon)
Regards,
Actually i do have a room,wife wants it for something else.Humm may
be if i send her on that cruise she always wanted for a week or so:)
My Dads old Vivitar enlarger,trays etc are still at his house.I do
plan to get them and set up one day.
Thanks for the advice though Tom.
Dave
Begin
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, tom wrote:
You could probably put a decent darkroom together for $300. Hell,
Collin B. could probably set you up for $50. ;)
Wit a second, is Colin selling a darkroom? :)
Ha.Goos one WW.
Its like when i email a proof from the D1(horse shows)to some one,i
set it up to be as crappy a resolution as possible.I usually get an
email a bit later saying they cannot print a good copy from there
computer,must be a bad file.I tell them no its a good file,you want
a print
Pal.
I have the Canon BJC8200 and its successor the S800.They
both produce nice 8x10's(max size)The 800 is at 1200x2400
were the 8200 is 1200x1200.
They both take 6 cartridges and are about $20.00 Can each with life
of about 45=48 pictures per tank.
I have yet to see a demo of the 9000 but may
The knowledge necessary to do it is still a requirement. Have you actually
seen the chip itself? It may have no numbers on it at all. And, then, you
may not be able to buy a programmer. Perhaps it would be easier to seek a
way to bypass it.
Len
---
From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi all.Thought i'd post a photography related subject.
Developing clas #5 went great,for me anyway,last night.Finally did
the full circle.
Shot a roll of Delta 3200 and 6400 of my friends band Oct 3
2002,developed it in Tmax for 12 min.,made a contact sheet,and had 2-
3 nice shots to choice
Very interesting subject
I actually brought this subject up on the list last year. Very few answers
form the list...
I found stock-photo agencies who wnated 50 or more original slides - I
wouldn't have any chance to make sure they wouldn't use them without paying
me one cent!
But - if you are
Holy shit!
Dr E D F Williams
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002
- Original Message -
From: Chaso DeChaso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: law and image
A couple of years ago I purchased a deal from Henry's, for 10 2CR5's over a
five years period.
At that time I owned a Z-1p a Pro70. Both cameras were sold since, but I'm
still gettng these batteries regularly.
I have now 2 of them and 2 more to come, but no cameras for them.
If anyone in the GTA
Give it a rest please:(
Pentax User
Stouffville Ontario Canada
http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/
http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses
Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 11:23 AM, Francis Alviar wrote:
Would you be happy with the following lenses for a
travel kit?
4 are primes and 1 is a zoom
28mm f/3.5
50mm f/1.4
105mm f/2.8 macro
200mm f/4
45-125mm f/4
Couple that with 2 bodies.
Any lens you would leave home? Any
Well if you've seen any images out of Bali in the last ten days of so
the teams of evidence gathering personel all seem to have digicams in
hand, I haven't seen a film camera yet.
Not to disagree or anything but... if you are as addicted to 'crime' TV
programmes such as CSI, Silent Witness,
Unless the sender made the original with a web-capable only camera with 640
by 400
resolution, (or a more capable camera set to 640 by 400), simply downloaded
and sent
it. Then there is no full res file or more properly the file the customer
has is the
full res file.
At 11:59 PM 10/24/2002
Would you be happy with the following lenses for a
travel kit?
4 are primes and 1 is a zoom
28mm f/3.5
50mm f/1.4
105mm f/2.8 macro
200mm f/4
45-125mm f/4
Couple that with 2 bodies.
Any lens you would leave home? Any redundancy?
Thanks.
Francis M. Alviar
The list archive is not updated. I only get digests
but it seems that the contents are all from a Chaso
deChaso.
Weird.
Is the list broken again?
Francis M. Alviar
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I'd leave the zoom at home (too heavy, not so useful focal range, and
despite the fact that it's said to be very good lens, it's a zoom and you've
got all the focal lenghts you really need in the primes you list), and would
put the 50mm on one body and the 105mm on the other. Hope this sentence is
-Original Message-
From: Francis Alviar [mailto:alviar629030;yahoo.com]
Would you be happy with the following lenses for a
travel kit?
4 are primes and 1 is a zoom
28mm f/3.5
50mm f/1.4
105mm f/2.8 macro
200mm f/4
45-125mm f/4
Couple that with 2 bodies.
Any lens you
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I should've mentioned that I confirmed this number, however, in multiple
places.. the Frontier systems do in fact print at 300dpi.
Evidently, teh Frontier will just re-sample images at higher dpi down to
300. Still not sure if its better to give
gfen,
The Agfa DLabs print at 400 DPI.
Bruce
Thursday, October 24, 2002, 7:12:50 AM, you wrote:
g On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, gfen wrote:
I did, and I was given the answer of 300 DPI, which to me just seems so
very low.. Then again, despite being a raging computer geek (reformed), I
g I
TI has a new 6 or 7 ink printer out: The 5550, I believe.
As I recall, it does 6x4 borderless, and will print up to
8x10. About $150, and supposedly in the Epson/Canon quality
class. And I don't believe the carts are chipped.
-Lon
Yes, 1 day to go. So far, I have collected 14 replies. These polls will
end tomorrow, so please send your votes now
1.) Imagine that you urgently need a zoom which covers the wide-angle
range for your k-mount camera. Imagine further, that you have more than
enough money to spend on such a
Casio presents the QV-R3 and QV-R43 and 4 Mp equipped of zooms 3x PENTAX !!
After technical card reading, all is there the same, 11Mb internal
memory , watch calendar understood the zoom to the different formats of
files.
Two differences however:
- the wheel at the rear of the case instead of
gfen wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Dan Scott wrote:
to add a tiny smidgen of unsharp masking to get the smaller rez image
What exactly does unsharp mask accomplish?
the name is unfortunate and is derived from true darkroom lingo dealing
with a negative sandwich. Unsharp mask increases
On Thursday, October 24, 2002, at 10:04 AM, Lon Williamson wrote:
Folks, I believe I've stumbled upon a useful thing.
I have created a Photoshop Action that, on a reasonable
percentage of scans thrown at it, reduced spotting time
considerably. The action can remove most spots from
negative
gfen wrote:
snip
The other thing I'm having difficulty getting my head around is WHERE and
HOW I should size images and do the workflow.. I've been doing my best to
research it out on photo.net
snip
I too, have researched photo.net, and I don't think it's the best resource.
Two places
Physical violence is not a rude topic unless it
definitely results in murder.
--- Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would never hurt YOU, but...
Steve Desjardins wrote:
I'm really sorry if we offended you - please don't
hurt me . . . .
=
Chaso DeChaso
Less is more
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think I remember a couple people on the list have mentioned owning
Nikon scanners, and one or two with the Minoltas that support ICE--but
I'm drawing a blank on names right now.
i have a Coolscan 4000ED. you can send me the action to try. i
I think the light in my refrigerator stays on after I shut the door.
Chaso DeChaso wrote:
Physical violence is not a rude topic unless it
definitely results in murder.
--- Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would never hurt YOU, but...
Steve Desjardins wrote:
I'm really
Was Daniel or someone else talking about refrigerator
lights earlier?
--- Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the light in my refrigerator stays on after
I shut the door.
Chaso DeChaso wrote:
Physical violence is not a rude topic unless it
definitely results in murder.
---
It was a lovely evening indeed. Great hosts, great food, variety of wine, even
first LX I had in my hands. We even invented new language. Espano-
english was a real fun to talk. Enjoyable time. Thanks, guys and gals.
Matjaz
The PDML Roman bunch met fellow Matjaz from Slovenia during his brief
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