Re: December PUG is up

2022-12-08 Thread Henk Terhell 
Funny, all the different interpretations. My favorite is Jan's interesting
elephants underfoot.

Henk


Op ma 5 dec. 2022 om 11:24 schreef Brian W :

> G'day all
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Re: December PUG is up

2022-12-07 Thread David J Brooks 
Wonderful gallery this month, I like Ann's shot a lot and the mushrooms

Dave

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 5:24 AM Brian W  wrote:

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Re: December PUG is up

2022-12-07 Thread ann sanfedele 
Yes  - interesting and fun  gallery  -  hafta point out Rick and I did 
not collude :-)


My  personal faves are Stan's and Jan's - (rhymes just happen)

ann

On 12/7/2022 4:26 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:

Thanks! Interesting how so many of them make pairs.

I like ‘Leaf’ by Reinhard very much. The almost complementary colours of the 
leaf and tiles in that beautiful light and shade, with the shape of the leaf 
almost echoing that of the tile pattern, and of course the beautiful tiles 
themselves, work very well in my view.

B



On 5 Dec 2022, at 10:24, Brian W  wrote:

G'day all

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Re: December PUG is up

2022-12-07 Thread Bob Pdml 
Thanks! Interesting how so many of them make pairs. 

I like ‘Leaf’ by Reinhard very much. The almost complementary colours of the 
leaf and tiles in that beautiful light and shade, with the shape of the leaf 
almost echoing that of the tile pattern, and of course the beautiful tiles 
themselves, work very well in my view.

B


> On 5 Dec 2022, at 10:24, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> Enjoy the new gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
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> 
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Re: December PUG is up

2021-12-09 Thread ann sanfedele 
As Brian said... I agree Bill's does nail the topic very nicely and it 
made me laugh out loud - even though it is clearly "constructed" .


As to Jan's Apache trail -- Yeah, ttaken by that becuase , as John, I've 
been right there a bit of a scary road to drive for me

back in I think it was 1985..

really nice gallery overall I think -- a topic I love.

ann


On 12/5/2021 6:17 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
I liked all of them, but I was taken by Jan van "Wijk's Apache Trail, 
Arizona" because I've been there too.  I recognize that spot on the 
trail.


I have a friend who lives in Mesa, AZ just a few miles from the 
southern terminus in Apache Junction.


On 12/5/2021 5:16 AM, Brian W wrote:

G'day all

Lots of lonely roads this month but Bill's "The Lost Girls" nails the 
theme

perfectly.

Enjoy the new gallery here:

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Re: December PUG is up

2021-12-07 Thread Ralf R Radermacher 

Am 07.12.21 um 21:15 schrieb David J Brooks:

super gallery


It is indeed.

Pity I couldn't contribute this time. We're snowed under with work until
the 15th. Currently, I don't even find the time to lurk.

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Re: December PUG is up

2021-12-07 Thread John Sessoms 
It's a world treasure, not just a national one. Its grace & beauty 
surpassed its original purpose.


On 12/6/2021 4:10 PM, jtainter wrote:

Rick wrote:
  
"Joe, I feel the same way. We haven’t been to Asia, but my wife and I were getting to Europe for work (with some holiday attached) once or twice a year. My last trip was one to London in April 2019. I surmise that the photo is Notre Dame; the fire was agonizing to watch on TV, and I’m neither French nor Catholic."
  
Rick, thanks for your comment--from a fellow traveler. Of course the photo is of Notre Dame. I found a hotel literally just across the intersection. I was shocked and saddened when it burned. They are rebuilding it, but there is no replacement for that forest of 13th century timbers. After I left I realized that the air I was breathing probably had a lot of lead in it. My wife and I are getting old, but would like to get in one last trip apiece to our favorite countries, Italy and Sweden. And I like France, too--and England, and Germany, and Austria, and Spain, and Portugal, and the Netherlands, etc. And I forgot countries I've been to in Africa and South America. I miss them all, except for Russia.



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Re: December PUG is up

2021-12-07 Thread David J Brooks 
super gallery

Dave

On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 5:16 AM Brian W  wrote:

> G'day all
>
> Lots of lonely roads this month but Bill's "The Lost Girls" nails the theme
> perfectly.
>
> Enjoy the new gallery here:
>
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Re: December PUG is up

2021-12-07 Thread Bill 
On Tue., Dec. 7, 2021, 8:50 a.m. Rick Womer,  wrote:

> Ick.
>
> What is it about the lack of a shell that makes them more repulsive than
> other mollusks?
>
> Rick
>

They are all ugly outside their shells. Never eat half an escargot and look
at what's left.
The size doesn't help either.

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Re: December PUG is up

2021-12-07 Thread Rick Womer 
Ick.

What is it about the lack of a shell that makes them more repulsive than other 
mollusks?

Rick

> On Dec 6, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> Rick, I estimate in the order of 10 cm ( 4 inch).
> Henk
> 
> Op ma 6 dec. 2021 om 03:00 schreef Rick Womer :
> 
>> I agree that Bill Robb’s photo gets the blue ribbon this month!
>> 
>> The prize for the best title should go to Eric for “impathable.” (Either
>> very clever, or he was using voice recognition with a bad lisp.)
>> 
>> Dan, as you may know Randall Thompson set a set of Frost’s poems to music
>> in his choral work “Frostiana,” which begins with “The Road Not Taken.”
>> I’ve sung Frostiana enough that I don’t need the score anymore, and I love
>> it.
>> 
>> “I shall be telling this with a sigh
>> Somewhere ages and ages hence.
>> Two road diverged in a wood and I,
>> I took the one less travelled by.
>> And that has made all the difference.”
>> 
>> Henk, how large are those ugly slugs anyway?
>> 
>> Joe, I feel the same way. We haven’t been to Asia, but my wife and I were
>> getting to Europe for work (with some holiday attached) once or twice a
>> year. My last trip was one to London in April 2019. I surmise that the
>> photo is Notre Dame; the fire was agonizing to watch on TV, and I’m neither
>> French nor Catholic.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Brian W  wrote:
>>> 
>>> G'day all
>>> 
>>> Lots of lonely roads this month but Bill's "The Lost Girls" nails the
>> theme
>>> perfectly.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy the new gallery here:
>>> 
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>>> 
>>> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
>> there).
>>> 
>>> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
>>> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
>> gallery,
>>> let me know.
>>> 
>>> +
>>> 
>>> First up for 2022: 'Rainy'.
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: December PUG is up

2021-12-06 Thread jtainter 
Rick wrote:
 
"Joe, I feel the same way. We haven’t been to Asia, but my wife and I were 
getting to Europe for work (with some holiday attached) once or twice a year. 
My last trip was one to London in April 2019. I surmise that the photo is Notre 
Dame; the fire was agonizing to watch on TV, and I’m neither French nor 
Catholic."
 
Rick, thanks for your comment--from a fellow traveler. Of course the photo is 
of Notre Dame. I found a hotel literally just across the intersection. I was 
shocked and saddened when it burned. They are rebuilding it, but there is no 
replacement for that forest of 13th century timbers. After I left I realized 
that the air I was breathing probably had a lot of lead in it. My wife and I 
are getting old, but would like to get in one last trip apiece to our favorite 
countries, Italy and Sweden. And I like France, too--and England, and Germany, 
and Austria, and Spain, and Portugal, and the Netherlands, etc. And I forgot 
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Re: December PUG is up

2021-12-06 Thread Henk Terhell 
Rick, I estimate in the order of 10 cm ( 4 inch).
Henk

Op ma 6 dec. 2021 om 03:00 schreef Rick Womer :

> I agree that Bill Robb’s photo gets the blue ribbon this month!
>
> The prize for the best title should go to Eric for “impathable.” (Either
> very clever, or he was using voice recognition with a bad lisp.)
>
> Dan, as you may know Randall Thompson set a set of Frost’s poems to music
> in his choral work “Frostiana,” which begins with “The Road Not Taken.”
> I’ve sung Frostiana enough that I don’t need the score anymore, and I love
> it.
>
> “I shall be telling this with a sigh
> Somewhere ages and ages hence.
> Two road diverged in a wood and I,
> I took the one less travelled by.
> And that has made all the difference.”
>
> Henk, how large are those ugly slugs anyway?
>
> Joe, I feel the same way. We haven’t been to Asia, but my wife and I were
> getting to Europe for work (with some holiday attached) once or twice a
> year. My last trip was one to London in April 2019. I surmise that the
> photo is Notre Dame; the fire was agonizing to watch on TV, and I’m neither
> French nor Catholic.
>
>
> Rick
>
> > On Dec 5, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Brian W  wrote:
> >
> > G'day all
> >
> > Lots of lonely roads this month but Bill's "The Lost Girls" nails the
> theme
> > perfectly.
> >
> > Enjoy the new gallery here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/
> >
> > (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> there).
> >
> > Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> > infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery,
> > let me know.
> >
> > +
> >
> > First up for 2022: 'Rainy'.
> >
> > Full Submissions Guidelines are here:
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Re: December PUG is up

2021-12-05 Thread Rick Womer 
I agree that Bill Robb’s photo gets the blue ribbon this month!

The prize for the best title should go to Eric for “impathable.” (Either very 
clever, or he was using voice recognition with a bad lisp.)

Dan, as you may know Randall Thompson set a set of Frost’s poems to music in 
his choral work “Frostiana,” which begins with “The Road Not Taken.” I’ve sung 
Frostiana enough that I don’t need the score anymore, and I love it.

“I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence.
Two road diverged in a wood and I,
I took the one less travelled by.
And that has made all the difference.”

Henk, how large are those ugly slugs anyway?

Joe, I feel the same way. We haven’t been to Asia, but my wife and I were 
getting to Europe for work (with some holiday attached) once or twice a year. 
My last trip was one to London in April 2019. I surmise that the photo is Notre 
Dame; the fire was agonizing to watch on TV, and I’m neither French nor 
Catholic.


Rick

> On Dec 5, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> Lots of lonely roads this month but Bill's "The Lost Girls" nails the theme
> perfectly.
> 
> Enjoy the new gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
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> let me know.
> 
> +
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Re: December PUG is up

2021-12-05 Thread John Sessoms 
I liked all of them, but I was taken by Jan van "Wijk's Apache Trail, 
Arizona" because I've been there too.  I recognize that spot on the trail.


I have a friend who lives in Mesa, AZ just a few miles from the southern 
terminus in Apache Junction.


On 12/5/2021 5:16 AM, Brian W wrote:

G'day all

Lots of lonely roads this month but Bill's "The Lost Girls" nails the theme
perfectly.

Enjoy the new gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
let me know.

+

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Re: December PUG is up

2020-12-10 Thread Paul Stenquist 
Thanks for all your work, Brian.You’ve done a magnificent jog managing the pug. 
I will try to participate more frequently next year.
Paul

> On Dec 4, 2020, at 6:33 PM, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> Biggest gallery of the year - a great way to end 2020.  It's been a 
> challenging
> time for everyone so let's hope for a better 2021 with lots more photo
> opportunities.
> 
> 19 submissions this month with some great images - Paul's "To the Heavens" and
> Ralf's "Shipspotting" are personal faves.  Amazingly, we only have a single
> cormorant!!
> 
> View the December gallery here:
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Re: December PUG is up

2020-12-05 Thread David J Brooks 
Nikon has all my cormorant shots . Sorry gang for not able too add the
second

On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 8:21 AM Mark Roberts 
wrote:

> Only one cormorant???
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Re: December PUG is up

2020-12-05 Thread Rick Womer 
Really nice gallery again. My favorite is Toine’s; the minimalism really works 
wonderfully.

Rick

> On Dec 4, 2020, at 6:33 PM, Brian W  wrote:
> 
> G'day all
> 
> Biggest gallery of the year - a great way to end 2020.  It's been a 
> challenging
> time for everyone so let's hope for a better 2021 with lots more photo
> opportunities.
> 
> 19 submissions this month with some great images - Paul's "To the Heavens" and
> Ralf's "Shipspotting" are personal faves.  Amazingly, we only have a single
> cormorant!!
> 
> View the December gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
> 
> +
> 
> Next up: 'Weather'.
> 
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Re: December PUG is up

2020-12-05 Thread Mark Roberts 
Only one cormorant???

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Re: December PUG is up

2019-12-07 Thread Ken Waller 
Thanks for your comments Rick.


-Original Message-
>From: Rick Womer 
>Subject: Re: December PUG is up
>
>Brian, the PUGs are =consistently= “goodies”!
>
>This month, MARK!’s “Bass Lake” is the minimalist-est of the bunch (would have 
>been even minimalist-est-er without the stick). Ken’s is a minimalist classic, 
>but does the classic one better by having the perfect reflections. Brian’s and 
>AnnSan’s are my favorites.
>
>Thanks, Brian!
>
>Rick
>
>> On Dec 6, 2019, at 1:08 AM, Bulent Celasun  wrote:
>> 
>> My favorites this month are:
>> Bass Lake by Mark Roberts,
>> All Alone by Ann Sanfedele and
>> Outlook by Rick Womer.
>> 
>> I also enjoyed
>> Minimal Housing by Henk Terhell
>> (though I would hesitate to consider it
>> minimalist).
>> 
>> And thank you Brian,
>> for all your efforts to maintain the lovely galleries.
>> 
>> Bulent
>> -
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>> http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun
>> 
>> Brian W , 6 Ara 2019 Cum, 01:04 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>>> 
>>> G'day all
>>> 
>>> The last one for the year is a goodie
>>> 
>>> View the gallery here:
>>> 
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>>> 
>>> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery 
>>> there).
>>> 
>>> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
>>> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
>>> gallery,
>>> let me know.
>>> 
>>> +
>>> 
>>> First up for 2020: 'Stormy'.
>>> 
>>> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
>>> 
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>>> 
>>> You can submit here:
>>> 
>>> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Brian
>>> ++
>>> Brian Walters
>>> Western Sydney Australia
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Re: December PUG is up

2019-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele 

thanks RIck!
My faves are Brian's and yours - honest :-)  though Brian's gives me the 
creeps - that plane looks like some evil giant insect . Yours is 
definitely minimalist because of the broad open space - but whole 
gallery is wonderful


ann

On 12/6/2019 8:56 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Brian, the PUGs are =consistently= “goodies”!

This month, MARK!’s “Bass Lake” is the minimalist-est of the bunch (would have 
been even minimalist-est-er without the stick). Ken’s is a minimalist classic, 
but does the classic one better by having the perfect reflections. Brian’s and 
AnnSan’s are my favorites.

Thanks, Brian!

Rick


On Dec 6, 2019, at 1:08 AM, Bulent Celasun  wrote:

My favorites this month are:
Bass Lake by Mark Roberts,
All Alone by Ann Sanfedele and
Outlook by Rick Womer.

I also enjoyed
Minimal Housing by Henk Terhell
(though I would hesitate to consider it
minimalist).

And thank you Brian,
for all your efforts to maintain the lovely galleries.

Bulent
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http://celasun.wordpress.com/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
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Brian W , 6 Ara 2019 Cum, 01:04 tarihinde şunu yazdı:

G'day all

The last one for the year is a goodie

View the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
let me know.

+

First up for 2020: 'Stormy'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

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Cheers
Brian
++
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Re: December PUG is up

2019-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele 

Thanks, Bulent!

ann



On 12/6/2019 1:08 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

My favorites this month are:
Bass Lake by Mark Roberts,
All Alone by Ann Sanfedele and
Outlook by Rick Womer.

I also enjoyed
Minimal Housing by Henk Terhell
(though I would hesitate to consider it
minimalist).

And thank you Brian,
for all your efforts to maintain the lovely galleries.

Bulent
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Brian W , 6 Ara 2019 Cum, 01:04 tarihinde şunu yazdı:

G'day all

The last one for the year is a goodie

View the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
let me know.

+

First up for 2020: 'Stormy'.

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You can submit here:

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Cheers
Brian
++
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Re: December PUG is up

2019-12-06 Thread Rick Womer 
Brian, the PUGs are =consistently= “goodies”!

This month, MARK!’s “Bass Lake” is the minimalist-est of the bunch (would have 
been even minimalist-est-er without the stick). Ken’s is a minimalist classic, 
but does the classic one better by having the perfect reflections. Brian’s and 
AnnSan’s are my favorites.

Thanks, Brian!

Rick

> On Dec 6, 2019, at 1:08 AM, Bulent Celasun  wrote:
> 
> My favorites this month are:
> Bass Lake by Mark Roberts,
> All Alone by Ann Sanfedele and
> Outlook by Rick Womer.
> 
> I also enjoyed
> Minimal Housing by Henk Terhell
> (though I would hesitate to consider it
> minimalist).
> 
> And thank you Brian,
> for all your efforts to maintain the lovely galleries.
> 
> Bulent
> -
> http://patoloji.gen.tr
> http://celasun.wordpress.com/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
> http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun
> 
> Brian W , 6 Ara 2019 Cum, 01:04 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>> 
>> G'day all
>> 
>> The last one for the year is a goodie
>> 
>> View the gallery here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>> 
>> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
>> 
>> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
>> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
>> let me know.
>> 
>> +
>> 
>> First up for 2020: 'Stormy'.
>> 
>> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>> 
>> You can submit here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Brian
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western Sydney Australia
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Re: December PUG is up

2019-12-05 Thread Bulent Celasun 
My favorites this month are:
Bass Lake by Mark Roberts,
All Alone by Ann Sanfedele and
Outlook by Rick Womer.

I also enjoyed
Minimal Housing by Henk Terhell
(though I would hesitate to consider it
minimalist).

And thank you Brian,
for all your efforts to maintain the lovely galleries.

Bulent
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Brian W , 6 Ara 2019 Cum, 01:04 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>
> G'day all
>
> The last one for the year is a goodie
>
> View the gallery here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
> let me know.
>
> +
>
> First up for 2020: 'Stormy'.
>
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>
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>
> You can submit here:
>
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> Brian
> ++
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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-07 Thread Ken Waller 
Thanks for the comment ann - I haven't printed it large yet - looking foir 
more wall space !


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- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele" 

Subject: Re: December PUG is up



Brian - those are my exact top three as well!

Ken's Monet is especially a knock out. Hope he has printed that one!

ann

On 12/4/2018 10:56 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all,

A bit larger gallery this month. Some excellent work, as usual - Ken's 
"Show Me
the Monet" is one favourite (great title too!).  Others are Matthew's 
"Red

Light" - simple & effective - and Henk's "Water in the Form of Art".

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
gallery,

let me know.

+

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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-07 Thread Ken Waller 

Thank you paul for your thoughtful comment.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Stenquist" 

Subject: Re: December PUG is up




Nice gallery. Ken’s photo is both beautiful and conceptually brilliant. 
Dave’s is excellent as well. many good shots.

Paul



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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-06 Thread Ken Waller 

Agree, Brian. Ken's image is also my
pick.


Thanks Jack for your comment.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" 

Subject: Re: December PUG is up



Agree, Brian. Ken's image is also my
pick.

J

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Brian Walters  
wrote:


G'day all,

A bit larger gallery this month. Some excellent work, as usual - Ken's 
"Show Me
the Monet" is one favourite (great title too!).  Others are Matthew's 
"Red

Light" - simple & effective - and Henk's "Water in the Form of Art".

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
gallery,

let me know.

+

Next up: 'Gathering'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

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Cheers
Brian
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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-06 Thread David J Brooks 
Thanks Dan and Paul

Dave
On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 7:14 PM Ken Waller  wrote:
>
> > I agree that Ken Waller's "Monet" is the pick of an outstanding litter,
> > Words fail me in trying to praise it.
>
> Thanks for the comment Dan, I appreciate it.
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> Subject: Re: December PUG is up
>
>
> > Another interesting PUG, with many great images!
> >
> > I agree that Ken Waller's "Monet" is the pick of an outstanding litter,
> > Words fail me in trying to praise it.
> >
> > I also very much like Dave
> > Brook's "Hard Water" and Matthew Hunt's "Red Lights."  both exceptional.
> >
> > Ann's "Bottled" is also excellent and gave me a real chuckle.  On my three
> > trips to Switzerland over the decades, I constantly watched the locals
> > filling their Perrier bottles with water out of the public fountains.
> > That
> > water is indeed better than actual Perrier.
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:57 PM Brian Walters 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> G'day all,
> >>
> >> A bit larger gallery this month. Some excellent work, as usual - Ken's
> >> "Show Me
> >> the Monet" is one favourite (great title too!).  Others are Matthew's
> >> "Red
> >> Light" - simple & effective - and Henk's "Water in the Form of Art".
> >>
> >> View here:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/
> >>
> >> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> >> there).
> >>
> >> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> >> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> >> gallery,
> >> let me know.
> >>
> >> +
> >>
> >> Next up: 'Gathering'.
> >>
> >> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> >>
> >> You can submit here:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Brian
> >> ++
> >> Brian Walters
> >> Western Sydney Australia
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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-06 Thread Ken Waller 

I agree that Ken Waller's "Monet" is the pick of an outstanding litter,
Words fail me in trying to praise it.


Thanks for the comment Dan, I appreciate it.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: December PUG is up



Another interesting PUG, with many great images!

I agree that Ken Waller's "Monet" is the pick of an outstanding litter,
Words fail me in trying to praise it.

I also very much like Dave
Brook's "Hard Water" and Matthew Hunt's "Red Lights."  both exceptional.

Ann's "Bottled" is also excellent and gave me a real chuckle.  On my three
trips to Switzerland over the decades, I constantly watched the locals
filling their Perrier bottles with water out of the public fountains. 
That

water is indeed better than actual Perrier.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:57 PM Brian Walters 
wrote:


G'day all,

A bit larger gallery this month. Some excellent work, as usual - Ken's
"Show Me
the Monet" is one favourite (great title too!).  Others are Matthew's 
"Red

Light" - simple & effective - and Henk's "Water in the Form of Art".

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery,
let me know.

+

Next up: 'Gathering'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

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Cheers
Brian
++
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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-06 Thread Ken Waller 

Thanks Brian for the comment and thanks for all you do putting the PUG out !

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- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

Subject: December PUG is up



G'day all,

A bit larger gallery this month. Some excellent work, as usual - Ken's 
"Show Me

the Monet" is one favourite (great title too!).  Others are Matthew's "Red
Light" - simple & effective - and Henk's "Water in the Form of Art".

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
gallery,

let me know.

+

Next up: 'Gathering'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

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Cheers
Brian
++
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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-05 Thread Bob W-PDML 
Depends on the well. Celestins is nice, not at all sulphurous, with very fine 
bubbles. I lived in Harrogate for many years and some of the water there is 
very sulphurous, and there is the occasional whiff of hellfire in Vichy, but 
not as much as Harrogate. Vichy is a very attractive town.

> On 6 Dec 2018, at 01:17, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Isn't Vichy water high in minerals and sulfur?
> 
> Not to my taste.
> 
> Dan Matyola
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> 
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:44 PM Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> In Vichy at the source of Celestins you can draw the water free, or go
>> into a shop and buy some...
>> https://web-options.com/2018/07/06/vichy-ii/
>> 
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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
Isn't Vichy water high in minerals and sulfur?

Not to my taste.

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On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:44 PM Bob W-PDML  wrote:

>
> In Vichy at the source of Celestins you can draw the water free, or go
> into a shop and buy some...
> https://web-options.com/2018/07/06/vichy-ii/
>
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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-05 Thread Brian Walters 
On a similar theme, a town in New South Wales banned bottled water in 2009.
 Sadly it doesn't seem to have caught on more widely:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-07-08/nsw-town-bans-bottled-water/1346406

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> On 06 December 2018 at 09:43 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> In a restaurant in France this summer the waiter put a carafe of water like
> this one on the table:
> https://goo.gl/images/aBJxBj
> 
> Les Eaux Municipales means tap water...
> 
> Except that it's glass, it would be nice to carry one around for refilling
> from fountains.
> 
> In Vichy at the source of Celestins you can draw the water free, or go into a
> shop and buy some...
> https://web-options.com/2018/07/06/vichy-ii/
> 
> 
> 
> On 5 Dec 2018, at 22:04, ann sanfedele
> mailto:ann...@nyc.rr.com>> wrote:
> 
> back in '81 my thought when I saw the bottle being filled was that it was
> Evion's source ;-)  I was photographing the
> fountain itself - the frame before it on that roll tells me that... never
> bothered to blow that one up... I'll go for the gag every time
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 12/5/2018 2:11 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> On 5 Dec 2018, at 15:01, Daniel J. Matyola
> mailto:danmaty...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Another interesting PUG, with many great images!
> 
> [...]
> Ann's "Bottled" is also excellent and gave me a real chuckle.  On my three
> trips to Switzerland over the decades, I constantly watched the locals
> filling their Perrier bottles with water out of the public fountains.  That
> water is indeed better than actual Perrier.
> Better, of course, to re-use the plastic bottles than to throw them away.
> 
> Those fountains are called Wallace Fountains, after the inheritor of the
> Wallace Collection in London. He was a great Francophile and lover of Paris.
> After the Franco-Prussian War he designed the fountains, paid for them and had
> them installed, among other benevolent works for the ruined city.
> 
> There is one outside The Wallace Collection in Manchester Square, London. It's
> a superb gallery, with a good French collection, and always worth visiting.
> 
> 
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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-05 Thread Bob W-PDML 
In a restaurant in France this summer the waiter put a carafe of water like 
this one on the table:
https://goo.gl/images/aBJxBj

Les Eaux Municipales means tap water...

Except that it's glass, it would be nice to carry one around for refilling from 
fountains.

In Vichy at the source of Celestins you can draw the water free, or go into a 
shop and buy some...
https://web-options.com/2018/07/06/vichy-ii/



On 5 Dec 2018, at 22:04, ann sanfedele 
mailto:ann...@nyc.rr.com>> wrote:

back in '81 my thought when I saw the bottle being filled was that it was 
Evion's source ;-)  I was photographing the
fountain itself - the frame before it on that roll tells me that... never 
bothered to blow that one up... I'll go for the gag every time

ann


On 12/5/2018 2:11 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
On 5 Dec 2018, at 15:01, Daniel J. Matyola 
mailto:danmaty...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Another interesting PUG, with many great images!

[...]
Ann's "Bottled" is also excellent and gave me a real chuckle.  On my three
trips to Switzerland over the decades, I constantly watched the locals
filling their Perrier bottles with water out of the public fountains.  That
water is indeed better than actual Perrier.
Better, of course, to re-use the plastic bottles than to throw them away.

Those fountains are called Wallace Fountains, after the inheritor of the 
Wallace Collection in London. He was a great Francophile and lover of Paris. 
After the Franco-Prussian War he designed the fountains, paid for them and had 
them installed, among other benevolent works for the ruined city.

There is one outside The Wallace Collection in Manchester Square, London. It's 
a superb gallery, with a good French collection, and always worth visiting.



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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-05 Thread ann sanfedele 
back in '81 my thought when I saw the bottle being filled was that it 
was Evion's source ;-)  I was photographing the
fountain itself - the frame before it on that roll tells me that... 
never bothered to blow that one up... I'll go for the gag every time


ann


On 12/5/2018 2:11 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

On 5 Dec 2018, at 15:01, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Another interesting PUG, with many great images!

[...]
Ann's "Bottled" is also excellent and gave me a real chuckle.  On my three
trips to Switzerland over the decades, I constantly watched the locals
filling their Perrier bottles with water out of the public fountains.  That
water is indeed better than actual Perrier.

Better, of course, to re-use the plastic bottles than to throw them away.

Those fountains are called Wallace Fountains, after the inheritor of the 
Wallace Collection in London. He was a great Francophile and lover of Paris. 
After the Franco-Prussian War he designed the fountains, paid for them and had 
them installed, among other benevolent works for the ruined city.

There is one outside The Wallace Collection in Manchester Square, London. It's 
a superb gallery, with a good French collection, and always worth visiting.




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2018-12-05 Thread Bob W-PDML 


> On 5 Dec 2018, at 15:01, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Another interesting PUG, with many great images!
> 
> [...]
> Ann's "Bottled" is also excellent and gave me a real chuckle.  On my three
> trips to Switzerland over the decades, I constantly watched the locals
> filling their Perrier bottles with water out of the public fountains.  That
> water is indeed better than actual Perrier.

Better, of course, to re-use the plastic bottles than to throw them away.

Those fountains are called Wallace Fountains, after the inheritor of the 
Wallace Collection in London. He was a great Francophile and lover of Paris. 
After the Franco-Prussian War he designed the fountains, paid for them and had 
them installed, among other benevolent works for the ruined city. 

There is one outside The Wallace Collection in Manchester Square, London. It's 
a superb gallery, with a good French collection, and always worth visiting.



> 
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>> View here:
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>> http://pug.komkon.org/
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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-05 Thread ann sanfedele 

Brian - those are my exact top three as well!

Ken's Monet is especially a knock out. Hope he has printed that one!

ann

On 12/4/2018 10:56 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all,

A bit larger gallery this month. Some excellent work, as usual - Ken's "Show Me
the Monet" is one favourite (great title too!).  Others are Matthew's "Red
Light" - simple & effective - and Henk's "Water in the Form of Art".

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2018-12-05 Thread Paul Stenquist 

Nice gallery. Ken’s photo is both beautiful and conceptually brilliant. Dave’s 
is excellent as well. many good shots. 
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Re: December PUG is up

2018-12-05 Thread Jack Davis 
Agree, Brian. Ken's image is also my
pick.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:56 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> G'day all,
> 
> A bit larger gallery this month. Some excellent work, as usual - Ken's "Show 
> Me
> the Monet" is one favourite (great title too!).  Others are Matthew's "Red
> Light" - simple & effective - and Henk's "Water in the Form of Art".
> 
> View here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
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> let me know.
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2018-12-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
Another interesting PUG, with many great images!

I agree that Ken Waller's "Monet" is the pick of an outstanding litter,
Words fail me in trying to praise it.

I also very much like Dave
Brook's "Hard Water" and Matthew Hunt's "Red Lights."  both exceptional.

Ann's "Bottled" is also excellent and gave me a real chuckle.  On my three
trips to Switzerland over the decades, I constantly watched the locals
filling their Perrier bottles with water out of the public fountains.  That
water is indeed better than actual Perrier.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:57 PM Brian Walters 
wrote:

> G'day all,
>
> A bit larger gallery this month. Some excellent work, as usual - Ken's
> "Show Me
> the Monet" is one favourite (great title too!).  Others are Matthew's "Red
> Light" - simple & effective - and Henk's "Water in the Form of Art".
>
> View here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery,
> let me know.
>
> +
>
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>
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>
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> Brian
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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-08 Thread ann sanfedele 
I figured you could see Mt LeConte if conditions were right but what 
other mountains are between GFM and LeConte I could see being a problem  
but not the distance as the crow flies, I didn't think.
I'm thinking of Lookout mountain and seeing seven states from the 
summit.  And of course in Alaska :-)


ann


On 12/8/2017 1:16 PM, John wrote:
Great Smokey Mountain National Park is a 95 miles as the crow flies 
(Mile High Swinging Bridge to Newfound Gap) and according to this 
calculator, from an altitude of 5280 ft the distance to the horizon is 
89 miles.


http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm
IF the weather is clear, you can see Charlotte (81.93 mi)from the top 
of GFM and you can see Mount Mitchell(33.22 mi).


There's a city park in Boone, NC that's up on top of a mountain, and 
you can see Grandfather Mountain from there and if the weather is 
right (low overcast) all you'll see is the top of the mountain 
sticking out of a sea of clouds.


According to the NPS, the Blue Ridge Parkway "is technically a 
national /parkway/" ... "However, both are operated by the National 
Park Service"


https://www.nps.gov/blri/faqs.htm


On 12/7/2017 16:01, ann sanfedele wrote:
I didn't know about GFM becoming a State Park,  Blue RIdge isn't a 
National Park - according to list I saw recent.


I think you _can_ see Smokey mountains in distance from tippy top of 
Grandfather mt...


ann
On 12/7/2017 3:03 PM, John wrote:

Great Smokey Mountains NP is a bit far to be seen from GFM.

OTOH, the Blue Ridge Parkway's Glenn Cove Viaduct is on
Grandfather Mountain and it's only a mile from the GFM
entrancegate to the Blue Ridge Parkway access from US-221.

On 12/6/2017 10:20, ann sanfedele wrote:
GFM is private land... but photos you took there, given you pointed 
your camera in the right direction,

would have given you the Great Smokey Mountains NP

ann

On 12/6/2017 10:06 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then
remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg

Dave

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Mark Roberts 
 wrote:

ann sanfedele wrote:


I counted the parks I've been to in North America
and there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO)
including mine, of course...

Some people just have good taste :-)

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-08 Thread John 

Great Smokey Mountain National Park is a 95 miles as the crow flies (Mile High 
Swinging Bridge to Newfound Gap) and according to this calculator, from an 
altitude of 5280 ft the distance to the horizon is 89 miles.

http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm  


IF the weather is clear, you can see Charlotte (81.93 mi)from the top of GFM 
and you can see Mount Mitchell(33.22 mi).

There's a city park in Boone, NC that's up on top of a mountain, and you can 
see Grandfather Mountain from there and if the weather is right (low overcast) 
all you'll see is the top of the mountain sticking out of a sea of clouds.

According to the NPS, the Blue Ridge Parkway "is technically a national /parkway/" ... 
"However, both are operated by the National Park Service"

https://www.nps.gov/blri/faqs.htm


On 12/7/2017 16:01, ann sanfedele wrote:

I didn't know about GFM becoming a State Park,  Blue RIdge isn't a National 
Park - according to list I saw recent.

I think you _can_ see Smokey mountains in distance from tippy top of 
Grandfather mt...

ann
On 12/7/2017 3:03 PM, John wrote:

Great Smokey Mountains NP is a bit far to be seen from GFM.

OTOH, the Blue Ridge Parkway's Glenn Cove Viaduct is on
Grandfather Mountain and it's only a mile from the GFM
entrancegate to the Blue Ridge Parkway access from US-221.

On 12/6/2017 10:20, ann sanfedele wrote:

GFM is private land... but photos you took there, given you pointed your camera 
in the right direction,
would have given you the Great Smokey Mountains NP

ann

On 12/6/2017 10:06 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then
remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg

Dave

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

ann sanfedele wrote:


I counted the parks I've been to in North America
and there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO)
including mine, of course...

Some people just have good taste :-)

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-07 Thread Ken Waller 

My count was only National Parks.

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From: "ann sanfedele" <ann...@nyc.rr.com>

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I made a distinction between parks and monuments and such in listing my 
40... I was using the list on line of the

59 that Ddan was using as well, and I presume, was Ken...

Gosh, getting into National Monuments and historical thingys that are 
not specifically parks would, I imagine,

increase all three of our lists by a bunch...

I hope my golden age passport is good for entrance to some monuments 
that are closer to home than

the parks are.. I think it is so

ann


On 12/7/2017 3:43 PM, John wrote:

Actually, most of those (not including cemeteries) *are* part of the
National Park Service.

https://www.nps.gov/hfc/carto/PDF/NPSmap2.pdf

On 12/6/2017 16:05, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I just googled the official list, and check off 25 I have visited. That
does not, of course, include national monuments, preserves, historic 
sites,

historic parks, memorials battlefields, cemeteries, recreation areas,
seashores, lakeshores, rivers, parkways, trails, and "affiliated areas,"
all of which are officially designated

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Ken Waller <kwal...@peoplepc.com> wrote:

Hi ann, I'm surprised you've only been to 7 National parks. Your 
comment

made me stop and count the National Parks I've visited - 22. Not all of
them were photo destinations - some were just to rubber neck.



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2017-12-07 Thread ann sanfedele 
I made a distinction between parks and monuments  and such in listing my 
40... I was using the list on line of the

59 that Ddan was using as well, and I presume, was Ken...

Gosh, getting into National Monuments and historical thingys that are 
not specifically parks would, I imagine,

increase all three of our lists by a bunch...

I hope my golden age passport is good for entrance to some monuments 
that are closer to home than

the parks are..  I think it is so

ann


On 12/7/2017 3:43 PM, John wrote:

Actually, most of those (not including cemeteries) *are* part of the
National Park Service.

https://www.nps.gov/hfc/carto/PDF/NPSmap2.pdf

On 12/6/2017 16:05, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I just googled the official list, and check off 25 I have visited.  That
does not, of course, include national monuments, preserves, historic 
sites,

historic parks, memorials battlefields, cemeteries, recreation areas,
seashores, lakeshores, rivers, parkways, trails, and "affiliated areas,"
all of which are officially designated

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

Hi ann, I'm surprised you've only been to 7 National parks. Your 
comment

made me stop and count the National Parks I've visited - 22. Not all of
them were photo destinations - some were just to rubber neck.








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2017-12-07 Thread ann sanfedele 
I didn't know about GFM becoming a State Park,  Blue RIdge isn't a 
National Park - according to list I saw recent.


I think you _can_ see Smokey mountains in distance from tippy top of 
Grandfather mt...


ann
On 12/7/2017 3:03 PM, John wrote:

Great Smokey Mountains NP is a bit far to be seen from GFM.

OTOH, the Blue Ridge Parkway's Glenn Cove Viaduct is on
Grandfather Mountain and it's only a mile from the GFM
entrancegate to the Blue Ridge Parkway access from US-221.

On 12/6/2017 10:20, ann sanfedele wrote:
GFM is private land... but photos you took there, given you pointed 
your camera in the right direction,

would have given you the Great Smokey Mountains NP

ann

On 12/6/2017 10:06 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then
remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg

Dave

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Mark Roberts 
 wrote:

ann sanfedele wrote:


I counted the parks I've been to in North America
and there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO)
including mine, of course...

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-07 Thread John 

Actually, most of those (not including cemeteries) *are* part of the
National Park Service.

https://www.nps.gov/hfc/carto/PDF/NPSmap2.pdf

On 12/6/2017 16:05, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I just googled the official list, and check off 25 I have visited.  That
does not, of course, include national monuments, preserves, historic sites,
historic parks, memorials battlefields, cemeteries, recreation areas,
seashores, lakeshores, rivers, parkways, trails, and "affiliated areas,"
all of which are officially designated

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:


Hi ann, I'm surprised you've only been to 7 National parks. Your comment
made me stop and count the National Parks I've visited - 22. Not all of
them were photo destinations - some were just to rubber neck.





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2017-12-07 Thread John 

One of the better ideas we've given the world. Glad to see
the idea has caught on in other countries.

On 12/6/2017 14:47, Ken Waller wrote:

These National Parks are a great resource for the U. S.

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2017-12-07 Thread John 

I won't bore y'all with all the crap that's been going on why I didn't
get around to submitting anything for this PUG when National Parks was
a natural fit for me.

Instead here's one I could have and probably should have submitted.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4531053717/lightbox/

Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, five minutes before sunrise on April 18, 2010.

It was the first day of the season & admission to the lighthouse was free
that day. I didn't know that when I left Raleigh in the middle of the night
on a whim to go and photograph lighthouses in the dark but it turned out
lucky.

On 12/5/2017 16:47, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all,

A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very good,
showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
let me know.

+

First up for 2018: 'Shadow'.

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2017-12-07 Thread John 

And crows are a lot smarter than pigeons.

On 12/6/2017 09:50, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

"While it is unlikely Sam recognized me"

Don't be so sure, Ann.  I read a scientific paper on city pigeons, where it
was demonstrated that the definitely recognized human faces, and can retain
the memories for extended periods of time,

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2017-12-07 Thread John 

They knew they were eventually going to lose the land because of rising
property taxes, so they sold most of it to the state to become a park.
They retained a concession to run the attraction as a non-profit
environmental education facility, but it's also under NC State Park rules
(which is why they're so uptight about alcohol on Nature Photography
Weekends).

I think it's pretty slick how they managed to keep the real estate
developers at bay. Now if they could just figure some way to get rid of
that g*&^@#n Sugartop!

IF there was some way to set up to implode it, I'd be willing to pay double
or triple admission just to watch.

On 12/6/2017 11:49, ann sanfedele wrote:

I thought  it was privately owned.. hmmm
but you certainly would know :-)

ann

On 12/6/2017 11:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

David J Brooks wrote:


Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then
remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg

GFM is a state park, not national.






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2017-12-07 Thread John 

Great Smokey Mountains NP is a bit far to be seen from GFM.

OTOH, the Blue Ridge Parkway's Glenn Cove Viaduct is on
Grandfather Mountain and it's only a mile from the GFM
entrancegate to the Blue Ridge Parkway access from US-221.

On 12/6/2017 10:20, ann sanfedele wrote:

GFM is private land... but photos you took there, given you pointed your camera 
in the right direction,
would have given you the Great Smokey Mountains NP

ann

On 12/6/2017 10:06 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then
remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg

Dave

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

ann sanfedele wrote:


I counted the parks I've been to in North America
and there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO)
including mine, of course...

Some people just have good taste :-)

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2017-12-07 Thread John 

Grandfather Mountain is not a national park, however the Blue Ridge
Parkway that runs across the shoulder of GFM *IS*.

Grandfather Mountain used to be a private attraction, but recently
(2015 I think) Hugh Morton's heirs donated the land to the State of
North Carolina and GFM is now a North Carolina State Park.

National Parks in the U.S.

https://www.nps.gov/hfc/carto/PDF/NPSmap2.pdf

On 12/6/2017 10:06, David J Brooks wrote:

Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then
remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg

Dave

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

ann sanfedele wrote:


I counted the parks I've been to in North America
and there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO)
including mine, of course...


Some people just have good taste :-)

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2017-12-06 Thread Alan C 

Just ravin' mad.

Alan C

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At least he didn't chicken out.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: December PUG is up!




On 12/6/2017 3:34 PM, mike wilson wrote:

He shouldn't have ducked.

Konrad Lorenz was circumcised by a raven.


 Fowl play

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At least he didn't chicken out.

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On 12/6/2017 3:34 PM, mike wilson wrote:

He shouldn't have ducked.

Konrad Lorenz was circumcised by a raven.


 Fowl play

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2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele 

I'll keep that in mind if I really do win the lottery :-)

a

On 12/6/2017 10:27 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

You have skipped the best one of all!  We will have a spare bedroom in Maui
in February ,  ,  ,  ,

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:12 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


Hawaii is the one I've never been to... unlikely I ever will

and of course I've been to the one in the northeast many times, as I lived
in Maine for 3 years and also took
many road trips down east since then...

I left off a couple in Florida that I may have been to as a child,
possibly before they became parks, likewise
the one in South Carolina.

ann


On 12/6/2017 8:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


There are a total of 59 National parks -- only one in the Northeast.  Mot
are in Utah and Alaska.

Which is the state you have not visited, Ann?


Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:08 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

I have been to 40 in the USA and x'ed out the ones I had not been to, and

then counted the rest.
got ya both beat... :-)  I come from road trip stock.

Didn't do Canada yet.  Company coming shortly with a framing project

ann


On 12/6/2017 4:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I just googled the official list, and check off 25 I have visited.  That

does not, of course, include national monuments, preserves, historic
sites,
historic parks, memorials battlefields, cemeteries, recreation areas,
seashores, lakeshores, rivers, parkways, trails, and "affiliated areas,"
all of which are officially designated

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Ken Waller 
wrote:

Hi ann, I'm surprised you've only been to 7 National parks. Your comment


made me stop and count the National Parks I've visited - 22. Not all of
them were photo destinations - some were just to rubber neck.



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2017-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
You have skipped the best one of all!  We will have a spare bedroom in Maui
in February ,  ,  ,  ,

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On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:12 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Hawaii is the one I've never been to... unlikely I ever will
>
> and of course I've been to the one in the northeast many times, as I lived
> in Maine for 3 years and also took
> many road trips down east since then...
>
> I left off a couple in Florida that I may have been to as a child,
> possibly before they became parks, likewise
> the one in South Carolina.
>
> ann
>
>
> On 12/6/2017 8:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> There are a total of 59 National parks -- only one in the Northeast.  Mot
>> are in Utah and Alaska.
>>
>> Which is the state you have not visited, Ann?
>>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:08 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>
>> I have been to 40 in the USA and x'ed out the ones I had not been to, and
>>> then counted the rest.
>>> got ya both beat... :-)  I come from road trip stock.
>>>
>>> Didn't do Canada yet.  Company coming shortly with a framing project
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/6/2017 4:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>>
>>> I just googled the official list, and check off 25 I have visited.  That
 does not, of course, include national monuments, preserves, historic
 sites,
 historic parks, memorials battlefields, cemeteries, recreation areas,
 seashores, lakeshores, rivers, parkways, trails, and "affiliated areas,"
 all of which are officially designated

 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

 On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Ken Waller 
 wrote:

 Hi ann, I'm surprised you've only been to 7 National parks. Your comment

> made me stop and count the National Parks I've visited - 22. Not all of
> them were photo destinations - some were just to rubber neck.
>
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2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele 

Hawaii is the one I've never been to... unlikely I ever will

and of course I've been to the one in the northeast many times, as I 
lived in Maine for 3 years and also took

many road trips down east since then...

I left off a couple in Florida that I may have been to as a child, 
possibly before they became parks, likewise

the one in South Carolina.

ann

On 12/6/2017 8:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

There are a total of 59 National parks -- only one in the Northeast.  Mot
are in Utah and Alaska.

Which is the state you have not visited, Ann?


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:08 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


I have been to 40 in the USA and x'ed out the ones I had not been to, and
then counted the rest.
got ya both beat... :-)  I come from road trip stock.

Didn't do Canada yet.  Company coming shortly with a framing project

ann


On 12/6/2017 4:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I just googled the official list, and check off 25 I have visited.  That
does not, of course, include national monuments, preserves, historic
sites,
historic parks, memorials battlefields, cemeteries, recreation areas,
seashores, lakeshores, rivers, parkways, trails, and "affiliated areas,"
all of which are officially designated

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

Hi ann, I'm surprised you've only been to 7 National parks. Your comment

made me stop and count the National Parks I've visited - 22. Not all of
them were photo destinations - some were just to rubber neck.




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2017-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
There are a total of 59 National parks -- only one in the Northeast.  Mot
are in Utah and Alaska.

Which is the state you have not visited, Ann?


Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:08 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> I have been to 40 in the USA and x'ed out the ones I had not been to, and
> then counted the rest.
> got ya both beat... :-)  I come from road trip stock.
>
> Didn't do Canada yet.  Company coming shortly with a framing project
>
> ann
>
>
> On 12/6/2017 4:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> I just googled the official list, and check off 25 I have visited.  That
>> does not, of course, include national monuments, preserves, historic
>> sites,
>> historic parks, memorials battlefields, cemeteries, recreation areas,
>> seashores, lakeshores, rivers, parkways, trails, and "affiliated areas,"
>> all of which are officially designated
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>
>> Hi ann, I'm surprised you've only been to 7 National parks. Your comment
>>> made me stop and count the National Parks I've visited - 22. Not all of
>>> them were photo destinations - some were just to rubber neck.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele 
I have been to 40 in the USA and x'ed out the ones I had not been to, 
and then counted the rest.

got ya both beat... :-)  I come from road trip stock.

Didn't do Canada yet.  Company coming shortly with a framing project

ann


On 12/6/2017 4:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I just googled the official list, and check off 25 I have visited.  That
does not, of course, include national monuments, preserves, historic sites,
historic parks, memorials battlefields, cemeteries, recreation areas,
seashores, lakeshores, rivers, parkways, trails, and "affiliated areas,"
all of which are officially designated

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:


Hi ann, I'm surprised you've only been to 7 National parks. Your comment
made me stop and count the National Parks I've visited - 22. Not all of
them were photo destinations - some were just to rubber neck.





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2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele 



On 12/6/2017 3:34 PM, mike wilson wrote:

He shouldn't have ducked.

Konrad Lorenz was circumcised by a raven.


 Fowl play

ann

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2017-12-06 Thread John Francis 
On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 10:16:59AM -0500, ann sanfedele wrote:
> I would love it to have been true... and actually -felt- it was so at the
> time.
> and ravens, I believe, are somewhat smarter than pigeons.
> 
> ann

The average cobblestone is somewhat smarter than a pigeon.


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2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele 
LOL -  - nonono been to lots more!    I meant that I had been to every 
one of the ones in Northe America  that were --represented  in the Dec 
PUG :- )


I've ben in 49 states, all the Canadian provences too... I think I can 
top your number of 22 NP's -

It will be fun to count.

A project for this evening  - I think I did the cont once before but I'm 
not sure where i put the list.


thanks for being surprised

ann

On 12/6/2017 2:47 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Hi ann, I'm surprised you've only been to 7 National parks. Your 
comment made me stop and count the National Parks I've visited - 22. 
Not all of them were photo destinations - some were just to rubber neck.


These National Parks are a great resource for the U. S.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "ann sanfedele" <ann...@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: December PUG is up!


But a gorgeous one! I counted the parks I've been to in North America
and there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO)
including mine, of course...
Love the caribou at Denali, Ken - and Brian's Pinnacles leaps out at
me... but so much prettiness throughout.

My personal favorite is for a very personal reason.. (in addition to it
being a lovely shot)
I think I know those ravens at the Painted Desert!
WHen did you take the photo, Jan?
I named the one in front "Sam" .. Ok, maybe it isn't Sam and his wife,
but I made friends with a Raven on the blue mesa overlook in the late
80's - He was stealing crackers from me then I couldnt resist (what you
are not supposed to do) feeding him. A couple of years later, nearing
the overlook , I saw a raven overhead and called out to him..
damned if he didn't come in for a landing, right in front of me... much
to the delight of RIchard's daughter who was traveling with us.

While it is unlikely Sam recognized me and was just looking for anyone
to give him a handout, the ranger
said it was entirely possible it was the same guy, as ravens settle in
to favorite places and also mate for life.

I took this photo of Sam in 1990 - and it got dolled up for inclusion in
my book of poetry..

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/The-Part-of-Fortune/i-SHfm4CB/A 



If you are curious about the verse I wrote for him ...

https://books.google.com/books?id=iLbJDAAAQBAJ=PA56=PA56=The+Raven+at+Blue+Mesa+Ann+Sanfedele=bl=4M_RE5tkLa=dfweoZ6DtuAAP7vuibaNg3H66js=en=X=0ahUKEwjk6tC0nPTXAhUSkeAKHeW-AUEQ6AEIKzAA#v=onepage=The%20Raven%20at%20Blue%20Mesa%20Ann%20Sanfedele=false 



I forgot how to do tinyurl .. sorry

sorry for the outpouring of emotion... Sam was an important part of my 
life


ann

On 12/5/2017 4:47 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all,

A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all 
very good,

showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
gallery,

let me know.

+

First up for 2018: 'Shadow'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

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2017-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
I have had some interesting encounters with the ravens at the Tower of
London.  Cheeky birds, and quite clever and persistent.

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

> I had my Raven experience several years back while in a state park just
> north of Moab Utah. My wife and I were mostly alone sitting on a bench near
> a very steep and deep canyon fall off just enjoying the scene and watching
> a raven play in the updrafts. He noticed us and started doing aerial
> maneuvers right in front of us. If we turned away he/she would call out as
> if to get us to pay attention to his antics. The raven is one of our most
> favored birds to the point where we commissioned a metal artist known for
> his bird sculptures to make a slightly larger than life raven sculpture.
>
> I've read in several places that they are reputed to be among the smartest
> of birds.
>
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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
I just googled the official list, and check off 25 I have visited.  That
does not, of course, include national monuments, preserves, historic sites,
historic parks, memorials battlefields, cemeteries, recreation areas,
seashores, lakeshores, rivers, parkways, trails, and "affiliated areas,"
all of which are officially designated

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On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

> Hi ann, I'm surprised you've only been to 7 National parks. Your comment
> made me stop and count the National Parks I've visited - 22. Not all of
> them were photo destinations - some were just to rubber neck.
>
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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread mike wilson 
> On 06 December 2017 at 16:15 Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> 
> David J Brooks wrote:
> 
> >Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then
> >remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg
> 
> GFM is a state park, not national.

Close enough for Brave Dooks.

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2017-12-06 Thread mike wilson 
He shouldn't have ducked.

> On 06 December 2017 at 20:22 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> Konrad Lorenz was circumcised by a raven.
> 
> > On 6 Dec 2017, at 20:14, Ken Waller  wrote:
> > 
> > I had my Raven experience several years back while in a state park just
> > north of Moab Utah. My wife and I were mostly alone sitting on a bench near
> > a very steep and deep canyon fall off just enjoying the scene and watching a
> > raven play in the updrafts. He noticed us and started doing aerial maneuvers
> > right in front of us. If we turned away he/she would call out as if to get
> > us to pay attention to his antics. The raven is one of our most favored
> > birds to the point where we commissioned a metal artist known for his bird
> > sculptures to make a slightly larger than life raven sculpture.
> > 
> > I've read in several places that they are reputed to be among the smartest
> > of birds.
> > 
> > Kenneth Waller
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> >

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Bob W-PDML 
Konrad Lorenz was circumcised by a raven.

> On 6 Dec 2017, at 20:14, Ken Waller  wrote:
> 
> I had my Raven experience several years back while in a state park just north 
> of Moab Utah. My wife and I were mostly alone sitting on a bench near a very 
> steep and deep canyon fall off just enjoying the scene and watching a raven 
> play in the updrafts. He noticed us and started doing aerial maneuvers right 
> in front of us. If we turned away he/she would call out as if to get us to 
> pay attention to his antics. The raven is one of our most favored birds to 
> the point where we commissioned a metal artist known for his bird sculptures 
> to make a slightly larger than life raven sculpture.
> 
> I've read in several places that they are reputed to be among the smartest of 
> birds.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Ken Waller 
I had my Raven experience several years back while in a state park just 
north of Moab Utah. My wife and I were mostly alone sitting on a bench near 
a very steep and deep canyon fall off just enjoying the scene and watching a 
raven play in the updrafts. He noticed us and started doing aerial maneuvers 
right in front of us. If we turned away he/she would call out as if to get 
us to pay attention to his antics. The raven is one of our most favored 
birds to the point where we commissioned a metal artist known for his bird 
sculptures to make a slightly larger than life raven sculpture.


I've read in several places that they are reputed to be among the smartest 
of birds.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <danmaty...@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: December PUG is up!



"While it is unlikely Sam recognized me"

Don't be so sure, Ann.  I read a scientific paper on city pigeons, where 
it
was demonstrated that the definitely recognized human faces, and can 
retain

the memories for extended periods of time,

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, ann sanfedele <ann...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

But a gorgeous one!  I counted the parks I've been to in North America 
and

there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO) including
mine, of course...
Love the caribou at Denali, Ken - and Brian's Pinnacles leaps out at 
me...

but so much prettiness throughout.

My personal favorite is for a very personal reason.. (in addition to it
being a lovely shot)
I think I know those ravens at the Painted Desert!
WHen did you take the photo, Jan?
I named  the one in front "Sam" .. Ok, maybe it isn't Sam and his wife,
but I made friends with a Raven on the blue mesa overlook in the late 
80's
- He was stealing crackers from me then I couldnt resist (what you are 
not
supposed to do) feeding him.  A couple of years later, nearing the 
overlook

, I saw a raven overhead and called out to him..
damned if he didn't come in for a landing, right in front of me... much 
to

the delight of RIchard's daughter who was traveling with us.

While it is unlikely Sam recognized me and was just looking for anyone to
give him a handout, the ranger
said it was entirely possible it was the same guy, as ravens settle in to
favorite places and also mate for life.

I took this photo of Sam in 1990 - and it got dolled up for inclusion in
my book of poetry..

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/The
-Part-of-Fortune/i-SHfm4CB/A

If you are curious about the verse I wrote for him ...

https://books.google.com/books?id=iLbJDAAAQBAJ=PA56=
PA56=The+Raven+at+Blue+Mesa+Ann+Sanfedele=bl=
4M_RE5tkLa=dfweoZ6DtuAAP7vuibaNg3H66js=en=X=0a
hUKEwjk6tC0nPTXAhUSkeAKHeW-AUEQ6AEIKzAA#v=onepage=The%20Ra
ven%20at%20Blue%20Mesa%20Ann%20Sanfedele=false

I forgot how to do tinyurl .. sorry

sorry for the outpouring of emotion... Sam was an important part of my 
life


ann


On 12/5/2017 4:47 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all,

A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very
good,
showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery,
let me know.

+

First up for 2018: 'Shadow'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Ken Waller 
Hi ann, I'm surprised you've only been to 7 National parks. Your comment 
made me stop and count the National Parks I've visited - 22. Not all of them 
were photo destinations - some were just to rubber neck.


These National Parks are a great resource for the U. S.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "ann sanfedele" <ann...@nyc.rr.com>

Subject: Re: December PUG is up!


But a gorgeous one! I counted the parks I've been to in North America
and there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO)
including mine, of course...
Love the caribou at Denali, Ken - and Brian's Pinnacles leaps out at
me... but so much prettiness throughout.

My personal favorite is for a very personal reason.. (in addition to it
being a lovely shot)
I think I know those ravens at the Painted Desert!
WHen did you take the photo, Jan?
I named the one in front "Sam" .. Ok, maybe it isn't Sam and his wife,
but I made friends with a Raven on the blue mesa overlook in the late
80's - He was stealing crackers from me then I couldnt resist (what you
are not supposed to do) feeding him. A couple of years later, nearing
the overlook , I saw a raven overhead and called out to him..
damned if he didn't come in for a landing, right in front of me... much
to the delight of RIchard's daughter who was traveling with us.

While it is unlikely Sam recognized me and was just looking for anyone
to give him a handout, the ranger
said it was entirely possible it was the same guy, as ravens settle in
to favorite places and also mate for life.

I took this photo of Sam in 1990 - and it got dolled up for inclusion in
my book of poetry..

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/The-Part-of-Fortune/i-SHfm4CB/A

If you are curious about the verse I wrote for him ...

https://books.google.com/books?id=iLbJDAAAQBAJ=PA56=PA56=The+Raven+at+Blue+Mesa+Ann+Sanfedele=bl=4M_RE5tkLa=dfweoZ6DtuAAP7vuibaNg3H66js=en=X=0ahUKEwjk6tC0nPTXAhUSkeAKHeW-AUEQ6AEIKzAA#v=onepage=The%20Raven%20at%20Blue%20Mesa%20Ann%20Sanfedele=false

I forgot how to do tinyurl .. sorry

sorry for the outpouring of emotion... Sam was an important part of my life

ann

On 12/5/2017 4:47 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all,

A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very 
good,

showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
gallery,

let me know.

+

First up for 2018: 'Shadow'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Ken Waller 
My favorite, however, is Ken Waller's "Caribou."  What a magnificent 
beast,

and what a splendid pose.  The background is just right:  Out of focus
enough to avoid distracting the eye, yet clear enough to strongly convey
the environment.


Thanks Dan, I appreciate the comments.
I had tracked this beast off road for some time and he gradually became 
accustomed to me allowing me to get as close as I dared. The OOF background 
is one of the pluses when using big glass.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <danmaty...@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: December PUG is up!



Not a large gallery, but a very enjoyable one, with many entrancing
portraits of National Parks all over the globe.

Rick Wormer's "Haleakala Crater"  touches my soul, as that is just about 
my

favorite spot on the planet -- next to the beaches of South Maui.  
Jack Davis' "Moulton Barn" is perhaps THE classic national park view, and
he managed to take that oft-photographed site and make it feel alive.
Jn van Wijk's "Painted Desert Locals" is perhaps the most dynamic;  I love
the way he capture both the perched bird and the airborne in that
well-composed image.
My favorite, however, is Ken Waller's "Caribou."  What a magnificent 
beast,

and what a splendid pose.  The background is just right:  Out of focus
enough to avoid distracting the eye, yet clear enough to strongly convey
the environment.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Brian Walters <apathy...@lyons-ryan.org>
wrote:


G'day all,

A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very
good,
showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery,
let me know.

+

First up for 2018: 'Shadow'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Cheers

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele 

I thought  it was privately owned.. hmmm
but you certainly would know :-)

ann

On 12/6/2017 11:15 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

David J Brooks wrote:


Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then
remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg

GFM is a state park, not national.
  



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2017-12-06 Thread David J Brooks 
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:
> David J Brooks wrote:
>
>>Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then
>>remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg
>
> GFM is a state park, not national.

Good thing i forgot then

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2017-12-06 Thread Mark Roberts 
David J Brooks wrote:

>Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then
>remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg

GFM is a state park, not national.
 
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2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele 
GFM is private land... but photos you took there, given you pointed your 
camera in the right direction,

would have given you the Great Smokey Mountains NP

ann

On 12/6/2017 10:06 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then
remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg

Dave

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

ann sanfedele wrote:


I counted the parks I've been to in North America
and there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO)
including mine, of course...

Some people just have good taste :-)

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2017-12-06 Thread ann sanfedele 
I would love it to have been true... and actually -felt- it was so at 
the time.

and ravens, I believe, are somewhat smarter than pigeons.

ann
On 12/6/2017 9:50 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

"While it is unlikely Sam recognized me"

Don't be so sure, Ann.  I read a scientific paper on city pigeons, where it
was demonstrated that the definitely recognized human faces, and can retain
the memories for extended periods of time,

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:


But a gorgeous one!  I counted the parks I've been to in North America and
there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO) including
mine, of course...
Love the caribou at Denali, Ken - and Brian's Pinnacles leaps out at me...
but so much prettiness throughout.

My personal favorite is for a very personal reason.. (in addition to it
being a lovely shot)
I think I know those ravens at the Painted Desert!
WHen did you take the photo, Jan?
I named  the one in front "Sam" .. Ok, maybe it isn't Sam and his wife,
but I made friends with a Raven on the blue mesa overlook in the late 80's
- He was stealing crackers from me then I couldnt resist (what you are not
supposed to do) feeding him.  A couple of years later, nearing the overlook
, I saw a raven overhead and called out to him..
damned if he didn't come in for a landing, right in front of me... much to
the delight of RIchard's daughter who was traveling with us.

While it is unlikely Sam recognized me and was just looking for anyone to
give him a handout, the ranger
said it was entirely possible it was the same guy, as ravens settle in to
favorite places and also mate for life.

I took this photo of Sam in 1990 - and it got dolled up for inclusion in
my book of poetry..

https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/The
-Part-of-Fortune/i-SHfm4CB/A

If you are curious about the verse I wrote for him ...

https://books.google.com/books?id=iLbJDAAAQBAJ=PA56=
PA56=The+Raven+at+Blue+Mesa+Ann+Sanfedele=bl=
4M_RE5tkLa=dfweoZ6DtuAAP7vuibaNg3H66js=en=X=0a
hUKEwjk6tC0nPTXAhUSkeAKHeW-AUEQ6AEIKzAA#v=onepage=The%20Ra
ven%20at%20Blue%20Mesa%20Ann%20Sanfedele=false

I forgot how to do tinyurl .. sorry

sorry for the outpouring of emotion... Sam was an important part of my life

ann


On 12/5/2017 4:47 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all,

A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very
good,
showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery,
let me know.

+

First up for 2018: 'Shadow'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread David J Brooks 
Skipped this one as i THOUGHT i had not been to a national park, then
remembered to late that GFM is one. Arg

Dave

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> ann sanfedele wrote:
>
>>I counted the parks I've been to in North America
>>and there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO)
>>including mine, of course...
>
> Some people just have good taste :-)
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2017-12-06 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
"While it is unlikely Sam recognized me"

Don't be so sure, Ann.  I read a scientific paper on city pigeons, where it
was demonstrated that the definitely recognized human faces, and can retain
the memories for extended periods of time,

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

> But a gorgeous one!  I counted the parks I've been to in North America and
> there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO) including
> mine, of course...
> Love the caribou at Denali, Ken - and Brian's Pinnacles leaps out at me...
> but so much prettiness throughout.
>
> My personal favorite is for a very personal reason.. (in addition to it
> being a lovely shot)
> I think I know those ravens at the Painted Desert!
> WHen did you take the photo, Jan?
> I named  the one in front "Sam" .. Ok, maybe it isn't Sam and his wife,
> but I made friends with a Raven on the blue mesa overlook in the late 80's
> - He was stealing crackers from me then I couldnt resist (what you are not
> supposed to do) feeding him.  A couple of years later, nearing the overlook
> , I saw a raven overhead and called out to him..
> damned if he didn't come in for a landing, right in front of me... much to
> the delight of RIchard's daughter who was traveling with us.
>
> While it is unlikely Sam recognized me and was just looking for anyone to
> give him a handout, the ranger
> said it was entirely possible it was the same guy, as ravens settle in to
> favorite places and also mate for life.
>
> I took this photo of Sam in 1990 - and it got dolled up for inclusion in
> my book of poetry..
>
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/The
> -Part-of-Fortune/i-SHfm4CB/A
>
> If you are curious about the verse I wrote for him ...
>
> https://books.google.com/books?id=iLbJDAAAQBAJ=PA56=
> PA56=The+Raven+at+Blue+Mesa+Ann+Sanfedele=bl=
> 4M_RE5tkLa=dfweoZ6DtuAAP7vuibaNg3H66js=en=X=0a
> hUKEwjk6tC0nPTXAhUSkeAKHeW-AUEQ6AEIKzAA#v=onepage=The%20Ra
> ven%20at%20Blue%20Mesa%20Ann%20Sanfedele=false
>
> I forgot how to do tinyurl .. sorry
>
> sorry for the outpouring of emotion... Sam was an important part of my life
>
> ann
>
>
> On 12/5/2017 4:47 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>
>> G'day all,
>>
>> A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very
>> good,
>> showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.
>>
>> View here:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>>
>> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
>> there).
>>
>> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
>> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
>> gallery,
>> let me know.
>>
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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Jan van Wijk 
Thanks for the heads up, and for this story Ann!

On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 20:27:22 -0500 ann sanfedele wrote:
>
>My personal favorite is for a very personal reason.. (in addition to it being 
>a lovely shot)
>I think I know those ravens at the Painted Desert!
>WHen did you take the photo, Jan?

It was taken on July 28, 2008, on a roadtrip starting in Phoenix,
and traveling over 5000 miles in a grey Mustang convertible,
visting about 10 parks along the way :)

This is directly next to the vistor centre in the Painted Desert,
when I drove up there from the Petrified Forest ...


>I named  the one in front "Sam" .. Ok, maybe it isn't Sam and his wife, but I 
>made friends with a Raven on the blue mesa overlook in the late 80's - He was 
>stealing crackers from me then I couldnt resist 
(what you are not supposed to do) feeding him.  A couple of years later, 
nearing the overlook , I saw a raven overhead and called out to him..
>damned if he didn't come in for a landing, right in front of me... much to the 
>delight of RIchard's daughter who was traveling with us.

Cute ...

>While it is unlikely Sam recognized me and was just looking for anyone to give 
>him a handout, the ranger
>said it was entirely possible it was the same guy, as ravens settle in to 
>favorite places and also mate for life.
>
>I took this photo of Sam in 1990 - and it got dolled up for inclusion in my 
>book of poetry..
>
>https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/The-Part-of-Fortune/i-SHfm4CB/A

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-06 Thread Jan van Wijk 
Thanks Dan!

On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 17:12:10 -0500 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>Jn van Wijk's "Painted Desert Locals" is perhaps the most dynamic;  I love
>the way he capture both the perched bird and the airborne in that
>well-composed image.

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-05 Thread Mark Roberts 
ann sanfedele wrote:

>I counted the parks I've been to in North America 
>and there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO) 
>including mine, of course...

Some people just have good taste :-)
 
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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-05 Thread Jack Davis 
Kind of you, Ann. Thanks!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:31 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Jack - that one was particularly nice for it's painterlyness.. like a 
> Bierstradt
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 12/5/2017 6:15 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Thanks for Moulton Barn comments,
>> Dan!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not a large gallery, but a very enjoyable one, with many entrancing
>>> portraits of National Parks all over the globe.
>>> 
>>> Rick Wormer's "Haleakala Crater"  touches my soul, as that is just about my
>>> favorite spot on the planet -- next to the beaches of South Maui.  
>>> Jack Davis' "Moulton Barn" is perhaps THE classic national park view, and
>>> he managed to take that oft-photographed site and make it feel alive.
>>> Jn van Wijk's "Painted Desert Locals" is perhaps the most dynamic;  I love
>>> the way he capture both the perched bird and the airborne in that
>>> well-composed image.
>>> My favorite, however, is Ken Waller's "Caribou."  What a magnificent beast,
>>> and what a splendid pose.  The background is just right:  Out of focus
>>> enough to avoid distracting the eye, yet clear enough to strongly convey
>>> the environment.
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Brian Walters 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 G'day all,
 
 A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very
 good,
 showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.
 
 View here:
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/
 
 (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
 there).
 
 Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
 infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
 gallery,
 let me know.
 
 +
 
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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-05 Thread Jack Davis 
He (or she) had to have remembered
you, Ann. Believe.

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:27 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> But a gorgeous one!  I counted the parks I've been to in North America and 
> there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO) including 
> mine, of course...
> Love the caribou at Denali, Ken - and Brian's Pinnacles leaps out at me... 
> but so much prettiness throughout.
> 
> My personal favorite is for a very personal reason.. (in addition to it being 
> a lovely shot)
> I think I know those ravens at the Painted Desert!
> WHen did you take the photo, Jan?
> I named  the one in front "Sam" .. Ok, maybe it isn't Sam and his wife, but I 
> made friends with a Raven on the blue mesa overlook in the late 80's - He was 
> stealing crackers from me then I couldnt resist (what you are not supposed to 
> do) feeding him.  A couple of years later, nearing the overlook , I saw a 
> raven overhead and called out to him..
> damned if he didn't come in for a landing, right in front of me... much to 
> the delight of RIchard's daughter who was traveling with us.
> 
> While it is unlikely Sam recognized me and was just looking for anyone to 
> give him a handout, the ranger
> said it was entirely possible it was the same guy, as ravens settle in to 
> favorite places and also mate for life.
> 
> I took this photo of Sam in 1990 - and it got dolled up for inclusion in my 
> book of poetry..
> 
> https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/The-Part-of-Fortune/i-SHfm4CB/A
> 
> If you are curious about the verse I wrote for him ...
> 
> https://books.google.com/books?id=iLbJDAAAQBAJ=PA56=PA56=The+Raven+at+Blue+Mesa+Ann+Sanfedele=bl=4M_RE5tkLa=dfweoZ6DtuAAP7vuibaNg3H66js=en=X=0ahUKEwjk6tC0nPTXAhUSkeAKHeW-AUEQ6AEIKzAA#v=onepage=The%20Raven%20at%20Blue%20Mesa%20Ann%20Sanfedele=false
> 
> I forgot how to do tinyurl .. sorry
> 
> sorry for the outpouring of emotion... Sam was an important part of my life
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 12/5/2017 4:47 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>> G'day all,
>> 
>> A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very good,
>> showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.
>> 
>> View here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>> 
>> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).
>> 
>> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
>> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
>> let me know.
>> 
>> +
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>> 
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>> 
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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-05 Thread Subash Jeyan 
great gallery. enjoyed looking at each one of them but quite liked David
Mann's "pontoon" and Brian Walters' "the pinnacles".

~subash


On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 08:47:26 +1100 (AEDT)
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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-05 Thread ann sanfedele 
Jack - that one was particularly nice for it's painterlyness.. like a 
Bierstradt


ann

On 12/5/2017 6:15 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Thanks for Moulton Barn comments,
Dan!

J

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 5, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Not a large gallery, but a very enjoyable one, with many entrancing
portraits of National Parks all over the globe.

Rick Wormer's "Haleakala Crater"  touches my soul, as that is just about my
favorite spot on the planet -- next to the beaches of South Maui.  
Jack Davis' "Moulton Barn" is perhaps THE classic national park view, and
he managed to take that oft-photographed site and make it feel alive.
Jn van Wijk's "Painted Desert Locals" is perhaps the most dynamic;  I love
the way he capture both the perched bird and the airborne in that
well-composed image.
My favorite, however, is Ken Waller's "Caribou."  What a magnificent beast,
and what a splendid pose.  The background is just right:  Out of focus
enough to avoid distracting the eye, yet clear enough to strongly convey
the environment.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Brian Walters 
wrote:


G'day all,

A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very
good,
showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery,
let me know.

+

First up for 2018: 'Shadow'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

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You can submit here:

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Cheers

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-05 Thread ann sanfedele 
But a gorgeous one!  I counted the parks I've been to in North America 
and there are 7 of them.. (two of the same park, amazingly - YOHO) 
including mine, of course...
Love the caribou at Denali, Ken - and Brian's Pinnacles leaps out at 
me... but so much prettiness throughout.


My personal favorite is for a very personal reason.. (in addition to it 
being a lovely shot)

I think I know those ravens at the Painted Desert!
WHen did you take the photo, Jan?
I named  the one in front "Sam" .. Ok, maybe it isn't Sam and his wife, 
but I made friends with a Raven on the blue mesa overlook in the late 
80's - He was stealing crackers from me then I couldnt resist (what you 
are not supposed to do) feeding him.  A couple of years later, nearing 
the overlook , I saw a raven overhead and called out to him..
damned if he didn't come in for a landing, right in front of me... much 
to the delight of RIchard's daughter who was traveling with us.


While it is unlikely Sam recognized me and was just looking for anyone 
to give him a handout, the ranger
said it was entirely possible it was the same guy, as ravens settle in 
to favorite places and also mate for life.


I took this photo of Sam in 1990 - and it got dolled up for inclusion in 
my book of poetry..


https://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Books-in-Print/The-Part-of-Fortune/i-SHfm4CB/A

If you are curious about the verse I wrote for him ...

https://books.google.com/books?id=iLbJDAAAQBAJ=PA56=PA56=The+Raven+at+Blue+Mesa+Ann+Sanfedele=bl=4M_RE5tkLa=dfweoZ6DtuAAP7vuibaNg3H66js=en=X=0ahUKEwjk6tC0nPTXAhUSkeAKHeW-AUEQ6AEIKzAA#v=onepage=The%20Raven%20at%20Blue%20Mesa%20Ann%20Sanfedele=false

I forgot how to do tinyurl .. sorry

sorry for the outpouring of emotion... Sam was an important part of my life

ann

On 12/5/2017 4:47 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all,

A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very good,
showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the gallery,
let me know.

+

First up for 2018: 'Shadow'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

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You can submit here:

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-05 Thread Ken Waller 

As usual Brian thanks for the effort you put in to the PUG !

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

Subject: December PUG is up!



G'day all,

A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very 
good,

showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.

View here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery 
there).


Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the 
gallery,

let me know.

+

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Full Submissions Guidelines here:

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You can submit here:

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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-05 Thread Jack Davis 
Thanks for Moulton Barn comments, 
Dan!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 5, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> Not a large gallery, but a very enjoyable one, with many entrancing
> portraits of National Parks all over the globe.
> 
> Rick Wormer's "Haleakala Crater"  touches my soul, as that is just about my
> favorite spot on the planet -- next to the beaches of South Maui.  
> Jack Davis' "Moulton Barn" is perhaps THE classic national park view, and
> he managed to take that oft-photographed site and make it feel alive.
> Jn van Wijk's "Painted Desert Locals" is perhaps the most dynamic;  I love
> the way he capture both the perched bird and the airborne in that
> well-composed image.
> My favorite, however, is Ken Waller's "Caribou."  What a magnificent beast,
> and what a splendid pose.  The background is just right:  Out of focus
> enough to avoid distracting the eye, yet clear enough to strongly convey
> the environment.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
> 
>> G'day all,
>> 
>> A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very
>> good,
>> showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.
>> 
>> View here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>> 
>> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
>> there).
>> 
>> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
>> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
>> gallery,
>> let me know.
>> 
>> +
>> 
>> First up for 2018: 'Shadow'.
>> 
>> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
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Re: December PUG is up!

2017-12-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
Not a large gallery, but a very enjoyable one, with many entrancing
portraits of National Parks all over the globe.

Rick Wormer's "Haleakala Crater"  touches my soul, as that is just about my
favorite spot on the planet -- next to the beaches of South Maui.  
Jack Davis' "Moulton Barn" is perhaps THE classic national park view, and
he managed to take that oft-photographed site and make it feel alive.
Jn van Wijk's "Painted Desert Locals" is perhaps the most dynamic;  I love
the way he capture both the perched bird and the airborne in that
well-composed image.
My favorite, however, is Ken Waller's "Caribou."  What a magnificent beast,
and what a splendid pose.  The background is just right:  Out of focus
enough to avoid distracting the eye, yet clear enough to strongly convey
the environment.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Brian Walters 
wrote:

> G'day all,
>
> A late surge of submissions got us up to a reasonable number - all very
> good,
> showing the diversity of National Parks in several countries.
>
> View here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible. So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery,
> let me know.
>
> +
>
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>
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>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
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>
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>
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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-18 Thread Bill 

On 12/5/2016 7:26 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Rather "late to the party" because of a ridiculous week at work, but anyway...

Jack's is my favorite--beautiful geometry in that shot.

Others I especially like are Bill's Matthew's Dan's Eric's, and PJ's.

This might be the strongest collection of a year of strong collections.

Thanks very, very much Brian!


And thank you rick for picking my detritus out of that collection of 
excellent images.




Rick

On Dec 3, 2016, at 6:55 AM, Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all,

A great gallery to wind up 2016.  Well done, everyone.

Lots of favourites - Matthew's 'Sailboat', Jack's 'Winter's Grace' (pity
it wasn't larger, though), Filip's "Schoonselhof ', Joe's 'In Bruge' and
Bruce's 'Tranquility' are my personal favourites this month.

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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-18 Thread Bill 

On 12/5/2016 7:46 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

I love that, David...

Jack, note that the "V" of the mountains point to the float... moving
the float to the left in the composition would mess up what it looked
like to me the best possible placement...



Thanks Jack and Ann.

I have a couple of outtakes with the float to the right side, but not 
the left.

ann


On 12/5/2016 7:30 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

This was well worth posting, but I
feel the compositional balance
would have been somewhat more comfortable had the float been
somewhat further to the left.

J


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 4, 2016, at 8:38 PM, David Mann  wrote:


On Dec 4, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

Bill's 'Pretty Tranquil' - incredibly subtle colours and tones. Sheesh.

I did a double-take when I saw that as it reminded me of an old one
of mine.  That must be why it's so good.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/77/#peso

(OK Bill's is better.)

I wanted to submit something but my life this past week has been
anything but tranquil.  After getting the run-around by a builder I
had to do all the preparation for our new kitchen myself.  Had to cut
a few corners but that stuff's all being hidden behind cabinetry :)

Cheers,
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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-18 Thread Bill 

On 12/4/2016 10:38 PM, David Mann wrote:

On Dec 4, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:


Bill's 'Pretty Tranquil' - incredibly subtle colours and tones. Sheesh.


I did a double-take when I saw that as it reminded me of an old one of mine.  
That must be why it's so good.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/77/#peso

(OK Bill's is better.)


Thanks Dave, you are too kind.


I wanted to submit something but my life this past week has been anything but 
tranquil.  After getting the run-around by a builder I had to do all the 
preparation for our new kitchen myself.  Had to cut a few corners but that 
stuff's all being hidden behind cabinetry :)

Cheers,
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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-18 Thread Bill 

On 12/4/2016 9:16 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

very nice gallery to end the year. found Bill's 'pretty tranquil'
particularly stunning...


Thank you. I appreciate it.



On Sat, 03 Dec 2016 22:55:52 +1100
Brian Walters  wrote:


As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/





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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-07 Thread David Mann 
On Dec 7, 2016, at 7:56 AM, John  wrote:

> Right now, I'm reduced to what I can do with a microwave oven & whatever
> small appliances I can temporarily place on top of it and having to wash
> dishes in the bathroom sink.

Luxury!  We had to eat half a handful of freezing cold gravel... actually we 
were surviving on takeaways for a few days.  We also used the microwave and the 
bathroom handbasin :)

The poor electrician had a long day today, he went home around 8:30pm but 
managed to get everything sorted out so we were able to cook again.  I'm liking 
the new induction cooktop but it's going to take a little getting used to.  
Just need to get the dishwasher installation finalised and we'll be fully 
functional.

The flooring goes in next Monday and I'll work out the lighting and final 
decorating at some stage.  Don't ask how much this is all costing :(

Cheers,
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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-06 Thread Brian Walters 
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, at 04:56 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 06 December 2016 at 22:33 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 6 Dec 2016, at 22:01, Brian Walters  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On a related note, we're planning on a bathroom rebuild early in the New
> > > Year.  The bathroom will be out of service for 2-3 weeks - and we only
> > > have the one.
> > > 
> > > It will be the middle of summer.
> > > 
> > > Things could get a bit smelly for a while
> > > 
> > 
> > Jeez mate, you're in the outback a thousand miles from nowhere. There's 
> > nobody
> > there to care. And if there is, have yourself licked down by a dingo.
> 
> Don't be hard on him.  He has brought a whole new meaning to the verb
> "plan".
> 


I spent my whole career in Planning.  Now I'm retired, I don't have to
do it any more  :-)>

(admittedly, it was sewage planning, so I'm used to unpleasant
aromas...)


Cheers

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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-06 Thread mike wilson 


> On 06 December 2016 at 22:33 Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6 Dec 2016, at 22:01, Brian Walters  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On a related note, we're planning on a bathroom rebuild early in the New
> > Year.  The bathroom will be out of service for 2-3 weeks - and we only
> > have the one.
> > 
> > It will be the middle of summer.
> > 
> > Things could get a bit smelly for a while
> > 
> 
> Jeez mate, you're in the outback a thousand miles from nowhere. There's nobody
> there to care. And if there is, have yourself licked down by a dingo.

Don't be hard on him.  He has brought a whole new meaning to the verb "plan".

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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-06 Thread Brian Walters 


On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, at 09:33 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
> On 6 Dec 2016, at 22:01, Brian Walters  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On a related note, we're planning on a bathroom rebuild early in the New
> > Year.  The bathroom will be out of service for 2-3 weeks - and we only
> > have the one.
> > 
> > It will be the middle of summer.
> > 
> > Things could get a bit smelly for a while
> > 
> 
> Jeez mate, you're in the outback a thousand miles from nowhere. There's
> nobody there to care. And if there is, have yourself licked down by a
> dingo.
> 

I've never been licked down by a dingo but, judging by the things they
eat, I'm not sure it would help...



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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-06 Thread Bob W-PDML 
On 6 Dec 2016, at 22:01, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> 
> On a related note, we're planning on a bathroom rebuild early in the New
> Year.  The bathroom will be out of service for 2-3 weeks - and we only
> have the one.
> 
> It will be the middle of summer.
> 
> Things could get a bit smelly for a while
> 

Jeez mate, you're in the outback a thousand miles from nowhere. There's nobody 
there to care. And if there is, have yourself licked down by a dingo.

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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-06 Thread Brian Walters 
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016, at 06:58 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
> John,
> 
> Demolition on our rebuilding project (which included the kitchen, and
> a good deal of structural work) began 6 June. We were using a charcoal
> grill, toaster oven, and microwave until 24 Nov, when we were =barely=
> able to cook Thanksgiving dinner in it. Finishing work is still
> ongoing.
> 
> These things take forever, even with a good contractor. I feel your pain!
> 


On a related note, we're planning on a bathroom rebuild early in the New
Year.  The bathroom will be out of service for 2-3 weeks - and we only
have the one.

It will be the middle of summer.

Things could get a bit smelly for a while



Cheers

Brian

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> Rick
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:56 PM, John  wrote:
> > On 12/5/2016 11:50 PM, David Mann wrote:
> >>
> >> On Dec 6, 2016, at 5:18 AM, John  wrote:
> >>
> >>> You might want to be careful with that.
> >>>
> >>> The major cause of the lack of tranquility around here is a kitchen I'm
> >>> having to completely remove down to the wall studs & replacing
> >>> sub-flooring. Someone made repairs years before I bought the house.
> >>>
> >>> The repairs didn't hold up because someone "cut a few corners". But,
> >>> because it *was* all "hidden behind cabinetry", the structure continued
> >>> to deteriorate unseen ... until it could no longer be hidden.
> >>>
> >>> Don't cheat yourself.
> >>
> >>
> >> It's a bit late now ;)
> >>
> >> The structure in our place is fine despite all that nature has thrown
> >> at it lately.  The only problems I've found from previous owners have
> >> been wiring-related.  We do have to be careful with asbestos as it's
> >> turned up in all sorts of tricky places (the house was built in the
> >> mid-1960s).
> >>
> >> The corners I cut were only in the decorating.  I really wanted to
> >> replace the plasterboard and throw some insulation in the wall but
> >> just didn't have the time.  I had to retain the existing stuff and do
> >> the lipstick-on-a-pig thing.  I ended up doing a skim coat of the
> >> visible parts, which will probably be hidden behind a glass
> >> splashback later.
> >>
> >> I'll be getting a painter-decorator in to finish everything off as
> >> the other walls need some work and the ceiling will need repainting
> >> after I've done the lighting.  For now I'm absolutely exhausted after
> >> a week of physical labour and less-than-ideal sleep.  All going well
> >> we'll have a fully functional kitchen again tomorrow.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I expect I may have a usable kitchen by the end of the year. Won't be
> > finished or "fully functional", but it will suffice.
> >
> > I've removed the plaster from two walls & ripped up half the floor;
> > replaced the corroded drain pipes & damaged sub-floor. I'm adding
> > insulation in the walls & by next week I'll have enough sheet-rock hung
> > & enough of the new tile floor installed to go ahead & install the base
> > cabinets & counter top.
> >
> > Haven't run into any asbestos yet. Knock wood!
> >
> > I'm having to do the job in sections & work around everything else on my
> > schedule. Because the kitchen is 'L' shaped, I still have 4 walls to do
> > & about 2/3 of the floor to replace plus wall cabinets, painting, etc,
> > but none of that will keep me from being able to use the kitchen.
> >
> > Right now, I'm reduced to what I can do with a microwave oven & whatever
> > small appliances I can temporarily place on top of it and having to wash
> > dishes in the bathroom sink.
> >
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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-06 Thread Rick Womer 
John,

Demolition on our rebuilding project (which included the kitchen, and
a good deal of structural work) began 6 June. We were using a charcoal
grill, toaster oven, and microwave until 24 Nov, when we were =barely=
able to cook Thanksgiving dinner in it. Finishing work is still
ongoing.

These things take forever, even with a good contractor. I feel your pain!

Rick
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On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 1:56 PM, John  wrote:
> On 12/5/2016 11:50 PM, David Mann wrote:
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 5:18 AM, John  wrote:
>>
>>> You might want to be careful with that.
>>>
>>> The major cause of the lack of tranquility around here is a kitchen I'm
>>> having to completely remove down to the wall studs & replacing
>>> sub-flooring. Someone made repairs years before I bought the house.
>>>
>>> The repairs didn't hold up because someone "cut a few corners". But,
>>> because it *was* all "hidden behind cabinetry", the structure continued
>>> to deteriorate unseen ... until it could no longer be hidden.
>>>
>>> Don't cheat yourself.
>>
>>
>> It's a bit late now ;)
>>
>> The structure in our place is fine despite all that nature has thrown
>> at it lately.  The only problems I've found from previous owners have
>> been wiring-related.  We do have to be careful with asbestos as it's
>> turned up in all sorts of tricky places (the house was built in the
>> mid-1960s).
>>
>> The corners I cut were only in the decorating.  I really wanted to
>> replace the plasterboard and throw some insulation in the wall but
>> just didn't have the time.  I had to retain the existing stuff and do
>> the lipstick-on-a-pig thing.  I ended up doing a skim coat of the
>> visible parts, which will probably be hidden behind a glass
>> splashback later.
>>
>> I'll be getting a painter-decorator in to finish everything off as
>> the other walls need some work and the ceiling will need repainting
>> after I've done the lighting.  For now I'm absolutely exhausted after
>> a week of physical labour and less-than-ideal sleep.  All going well
>> we'll have a fully functional kitchen again tomorrow.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>>
>
> I expect I may have a usable kitchen by the end of the year. Won't be
> finished or "fully functional", but it will suffice.
>
> I've removed the plaster from two walls & ripped up half the floor;
> replaced the corroded drain pipes & damaged sub-floor. I'm adding
> insulation in the walls & by next week I'll have enough sheet-rock hung
> & enough of the new tile floor installed to go ahead & install the base
> cabinets & counter top.
>
> Haven't run into any asbestos yet. Knock wood!
>
> I'm having to do the job in sections & work around everything else on my
> schedule. Because the kitchen is 'L' shaped, I still have 4 walls to do
> & about 2/3 of the floor to replace plus wall cabinets, painting, etc,
> but none of that will keep me from being able to use the kitchen.
>
> Right now, I'm reduced to what I can do with a microwave oven & whatever
> small appliances I can temporarily place on top of it and having to wash
> dishes in the bathroom sink.
>
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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-06 Thread John 

On 12/5/2016 11:50 PM, David Mann wrote:

On Dec 6, 2016, at 5:18 AM, John  wrote:


You might want to be careful with that.

The major cause of the lack of tranquility around here is a kitchen I'm
having to completely remove down to the wall studs & replacing
sub-flooring. Someone made repairs years before I bought the house.

The repairs didn't hold up because someone "cut a few corners". But,
because it *was* all "hidden behind cabinetry", the structure continued
to deteriorate unseen ... until it could no longer be hidden.

Don't cheat yourself.


It's a bit late now ;)

The structure in our place is fine despite all that nature has thrown
at it lately.  The only problems I've found from previous owners have
been wiring-related.  We do have to be careful with asbestos as it's
turned up in all sorts of tricky places (the house was built in the
mid-1960s).

The corners I cut were only in the decorating.  I really wanted to
replace the plasterboard and throw some insulation in the wall but
just didn't have the time.  I had to retain the existing stuff and do
the lipstick-on-a-pig thing.  I ended up doing a skim coat of the
visible parts, which will probably be hidden behind a glass
splashback later.

I'll be getting a painter-decorator in to finish everything off as
the other walls need some work and the ceiling will need repainting
after I've done the lighting.  For now I'm absolutely exhausted after
a week of physical labour and less-than-ideal sleep.  All going well
we'll have a fully functional kitchen again tomorrow.

Cheers,
Dave




I expect I may have a usable kitchen by the end of the year. Won't be
finished or "fully functional", but it will suffice.

I've removed the plaster from two walls & ripped up half the floor;
replaced the corroded drain pipes & damaged sub-floor. I'm adding
insulation in the walls & by next week I'll have enough sheet-rock hung
& enough of the new tile floor installed to go ahead & install the base
cabinets & counter top.

Haven't run into any asbestos yet. Knock wood!

I'm having to do the job in sections & work around everything else on my
schedule. Because the kitchen is 'L' shaped, I still have 4 walls to do
& about 2/3 of the floor to replace plus wall cabinets, painting, etc,
but none of that will keep me from being able to use the kitchen.

Right now, I'm reduced to what I can do with a microwave oven & whatever
small appliances I can temporarily place on top of it and having to wash
dishes in the bathroom sink.


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Re: December PUG is Up

2016-12-05 Thread David Mann 
On Dec 6, 2016, at 5:18 AM, John  wrote:

> You might want to be careful with that.
> 
> The major cause of the lack of tranquility around here is a kitchen I'm
> having to completely remove down to the wall studs & replacing
> sub-flooring. Someone made repairs years before I bought the house.
> 
> The repairs didn't hold up because someone "cut a few corners". But,
> because it *was* all "hidden behind cabinetry", the structure continued
> to deteriorate unseen ... until it could no longer be hidden.
> 
> Don't cheat yourself.

It's a bit late now ;)

The structure in our place is fine despite all that nature has thrown at it 
lately.  The only problems I've found from previous owners have been 
wiring-related.  We do have to be careful with asbestos as it's turned up in 
all sorts of tricky places (the house was built in the mid-1960s).

The corners I cut were only in the decorating.  I really wanted to replace the 
plasterboard and throw some insulation in the wall but just didn't have the 
time.  I had to retain the existing stuff and do the lipstick-on-a-pig thing.  
I ended up doing a skim coat of the visible parts, which will probably be 
hidden behind a glass splashback later.

I'll be getting a painter-decorator in to finish everything off as the other 
walls need some work and the ceiling will need repainting after I've done the 
lighting.  For now I'm absolutely exhausted after a week of physical labour and 
less-than-ideal sleep.  All going well we'll have a fully functional kitchen 
again tomorrow.

Cheers,
Dave


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