Geez you can give value for 2k, Doug! Right on the button, for mine, on
both counts - in Oz as it is in US.
As far as dangers go, this is pretty far down on the list in 1999. And any
U.S. radical has to take a critique of petit bourgeois (no quotes for me,
thank you) influence seriously - e.g.
Tuesday May 18 1999 SCMP
Camdessus urges caution
DAVID SAUNDERS
Recent rallies on Asia's financial markets are
premature and smack of "irrational euphoria",
according to the International Monetary Fund's
I don't read this as denying the agency of the Serbs in ethnic cleansing.
Consider the following.
A known pedophile is taken to a picnic by Clinton and left alone with a number
of children. The pedophile assaults several children. Surely, there is a sense
in which Clinton caused the assaults. The
I don't understand why you think that Milosevic has been victorious. Damage to
Serbia's infrastructure including Kosovo is untold billions. Eventually he will
have to settle for some
type of de facto occupation of Kosovo by the UN and/or NATO. Albanians will move
back to Kosovo
under the
G'day Tom,
I once read a piece by Simmel called something like 'How is society
possible?', and remember being very impressed - there wouldn't happen to be
a cyber-site for the below piece, would there? I think I'm going through a
dead-white-guys thing just now and the below is quite
TIJUANA POLICE DEFY COURT PROTECTION OF MAQUILADORA STRIKE
By David Bacon
TIJUANA, BAJA CALIFORNIA (5/16/99) -- For two weeks, Tijuana has
teetered on the brink of official lawlessness, as city and state police
continue to defy Baja California's legal system. Raul Ramirez, member of
the
There is indeed a cyber site for Simmel's article. I have it on my web site.
See the url for the History of Economic Thought Archive in my signiture.
Rod
G'day Tom,
I once read a piece by Simmel called something like 'How is society
possible?', and remember being very impressed - there
Hi, Rob,
You are probably right that Camdessus is just covering his rear.
The IMF is intellectually bankrupt. Its traditional function as a monetary
ambaulancehas been destroyed by events of the past two years. Having been
criticised heavily for failing to notice the Asian financial crises
Hi, Rob,
You are probably right that Camdessus is just covering his rear.
The IMF is intellectually bankrupt. Its traditional function as a cross border
monetary ambulance has been heavily damaged by events of the past two years.
Having been criticized heavily for failing to detect the Asian
Michael Perelman wrote:
Doug Orr made an excellent point. I have always found that giving people the
opportunity to actually do something encourages their activism -- even if it is a
matter of having people collect and organize clippings -- IF and only if other
people acknowledge the importance
Ken wrote:
In the same way, Paul first notes that before the bombing there was no
ethnic cleansing etc. The bombing provided the conditions for the cleansing
since it gave Milosevic the freedom to cleanse, and also to decimate the
KLA at
the same time. The bombing was a sufficient condition
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For anyone interested in the scamming of indigenous peoples by
missionaries, strongly recommend They Will Be Done.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
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As a followup to Doug's remarks on the potential
"dangerousness" of economics, I note that many of the
key cases in academia in the early twentieth century that
led to the institution of tenure involved professors of
economics who were fired due to allegedly espousing
socialist ideas, much
While cluster bombs are not specifically banned under
international conventions, landmines are. However the US together
with Turkey refuse to sign on to the convention. However, the
indicscriminate use of weapons is forbidden as well as the use of
indiscriminate weapons.
The failure rate of the
Jim Devine wrote:
I like C. Wright Mills's clarification of the liberal education as
liberating.
what is that statement?
It's taken from "The Sociological Imagination" (OUP 1959, p.186). I can't
place it exactly in context as yet, but I'm fairly sure that it's around or
about the section
Michael,
Part of what is really frustrating about all this
is the general wrongness of everybody involved.
Those who have noted that what was happening
before the bombing started are exactly correct.
Likewise, the bombing in no way justifies what has
been done since there by S.M. and his
Paul,
Well, for starters I certainly don't support
teaching people that "Serbs are monsters,"
although I might not oppose teaching that
about S.M., who is, as far as I am concerned.
One difference between what happened
in the US and what is happening in Kosmet
is that in the former we
The latter observation is true and is still true, the
observation also holding for neighborhoods of
cities such as Paris as well. Most of these identifications
go way back, all the way back to the French Revolution
in fact. Fernand Braudel provides some interesting
observations about
Ken,
Why should he settle? As long as NATO bombs
he is unremovable by his own people. He can last
as long as he wants. Who cares how much damage
and suffering his people experience? (his view)
The economy was already a mess, so now there will
be an excuse for why it is a mess.
As for
Jim Devine wrote:
[**] Note that the US/NATO standards of "human rights" ignore the right not
to starve, the right to a job, etc., things that show up in the Universal
Declaration of Human Rights (cf. in English,
http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/lang/eng.htm ). Under the latter (especially
articles 23
I meant "the crime preceded the punshment,"
sorry.
Barkley
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Subject: [PEN-L:6972] Re: Re: Kurds and Kosovars
Michael,
Part of what is
I realize that it appears that I called for a
victory for the Albanians of some sort, if not
necessarily the UCK/KLA whom I've already
said I don't support. That is not what I intended.
I only said that refugees would not return unless
there was such a victory.
I have given up on the
Louis,
Gosh, I just said I wasn't going to say more on
this, but...
Ummm, but in Guatemala it was a minority of
the population that was suppressing a majority of
the population, just as in Kosovo-Metohija, whereas
in Turkey it is the majority that is suppressing the
minority, as in
Louis,
Gosh, I just said I wasn't going to say more on
this, but...
Ummm, but in Guatemala it was a minority of
the population that was suppressing a majority of
the population, just as in Kosovo-Metohija, whereas
in Turkey it is the majority that is suppressing the
minority, as in
Louis,
Which would suggest that the revocation of
autonomy by Milosevic is a legitimate action for
them to be upset about.
They were upset before revocation. They were upset after it. They were
upset by social and economic differences between Kosovo and the rest of
Yugoslavia. Nothing
Louis,
Well, Tito's reluctance to let the Serbs back in
was a not-unreasonable decision in light of the
fact that he was going against promises that he
had made to let Kosmet remain a part of Albania,
as it was during the period of fascist rule, and which
was probably supported by a majority
Barkley,
A couple of points. I don't believe that Milosevic ever had any
intention of cleansing Kosovo of Albanians. I believe that is all
NATO propaganda. Indeed, when some of the opposition to him
proposed expelling Albanians and Croats from Serbia, Milosevic
opposed it. Besides which,
Pen-l,
A commentary on US/NATO Perception Management from the World Socialist Web
Site.
Seth Sandronsky
WSWS : News Analysis : Europe : The Balkan Crisis
Further doubt cast on US claims of genocide in Kosovo
By Martin McLaughlin
18 May 1999
There
Further doubt cast on US claims of genocide in Kosovo
By Martin McLaughlin
18 May 1999
Hillary Clinton, during a visit to Kosovar Albanian refugees in
Macedonia, said their suffering reminded her of Schindler's List and
Sophie's Choice, both of which
Financial Times (London)
May 3, 1999, Monday USA EDITION 2
The Milosevic legacy:
PERSONAL VIEW DOMINIQUE MOISI: The Serbian president cannot win the war
against an alliance of Nato and Hollywood. And in defeat he may become a
reluctant founding father of a reconstructed Europe
"The
Regarding:
I officially left the Mormon Church aka LDS Church (officially known as
The Church
of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) six years ago after having been
most faithful
in that organization my entire 47 year life span. I am just glad that I
finally
woke up before it was
At 02:16 PM 18/05/99 -0400, you wrote:
Bombing of Yugoslavia Awakens Anti-U.S. Feeling Around World
Yup. I might have mentioned we did a couple of teach ins with unions and
students on Yugo here. People are on it: they take as their point of
departure that if the US is doing it, it's propably
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Reuters
While a lot of this is imperialist shit, it is worth reading.
(The National Post is Canada's most right-wing jingoistic rag.)
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The Washington Post
Max,
There has been a move by the ultra-right in Canada to move to a
common currency between the US and Canada -- perhaps also
Mexico. The argument they make is that this would stabilize
Canada 'loonie' (though they fail to mention that had we done so
ten years ago the Canadian economy would
Some time ago, we were discussing Peter Dorman's friend, Kip Viscusi.
Here is anothe gem.
"The Social Costs of Punitive Damages Against Corporations in
Environmental and Safety Tort"
BY: W. KIP VISCUSI
Harvard Law School
Paper ID: Harvard Law School, John M. Olin Center
It's even better than that. Ely was canned specifically for announcing
to a class the date and time of a lecture by Emma Goldman! (She tells
the story in LIVING MY LIFE.)
"J. Barkley Rosser, Jr." wrote:
As a followup to Doug's remarks on the potential
"dangerousness" of economics, I
Perhaps looking ahead to the time when economists themselves might face
punitive damages for malpractice?
Michael Perelman wrote:
Some time ago, we were discussing Peter Dorman's friend, Kip Viscusi.
Here is anothe gem.
"The Social Costs of Punitive Damages Against Corporations in
Paul Phillips wrote:
There has been a move by the ultra-right in Canada to move to a
common currency between the US and Canada --
Outside of the lunatic right, however, it hasn't had
much of an audience here.
Which probably means it will be fast-tracked through parliament by Liberal
Prime
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The International Herald Tribune
There have now been two op-eds in the Washington Post about the spectre of
'dollarization,' which means the adoption of the U.S. dollar by Latin/South
American countries as their regular currency. Supposedly it's been talked
up by the imminent Secy. Summers, among others. Argentina was
Encyclopaedia of Radical Political Economy (ERPE)
Selected excerpts.
Prof. N.I. Lobachevsky and Takei Crapulinski (eds)
Politics
Democrat Party. Main source of U.S. military agression since 1850. (See
also Robert Dole.)
Republican Party. Lesser of two evils. (See also Pat Buchanan and
At 09:11 AM 18/05/99 -0700, you wrote:
For anyone interested in the scamming of indigenous peoples by
missionaries, strongly recommend They Will Be Done.
Anybody got any good, concise dirt on the Mormons? Or a website for
recovering ones?
Tom
Tom Kruse
Casilla 5812 / Cochabamba, Bolivia
BLS DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, MAY 18, 1999
RELEASED TODAY: In February 1999, there were 878 mass layoff actions by
employers as measured by new filings for unemployment insurance benefits
during the month. Each action involved at least 50 persons from a single
establishment, and the number of
http://www.antiwar.com/
Louis Proyect
(http://www.panix.com/~lnp3/marxism.html)
Louis,
Which would suggest that the revocation of
autonomy by Milosevic is a legitimate action for
them to be upset about. It is true that there was
preferential treatment of the Albanians in Kosmet
from 1974-1990, the period of autonomy. But I
would not say that there was ever
Bombing of Yugoslavia Awakens Anti-U.S. Feeling Around World
By Anthony Faiola
Washington Post Foreign Service
Tuesday, May 18, 1999; Page A01
BUENOS AIRES—It's thousands of miles from Belgrade, and there's not
And of course, it remains the case that the Turks have
done nothing to the Kurds that is comparable to what the
Serbs have done to the Albanians in the last two months,
not even close, which was my original point in this thread.
Why are people so resistant to admitting this?
Barkley Rosser
Barkley Rosser wrote:
Tom,
This interesting post simply does not address the question.
On strictly grammatical grounds, I'd have to agree. Brad's question was
about a "strange and pathetic attempt to deny the agency of those who are
undertaking the ethnic cleansing". It was a leading
Tom,
This interesting post simply does not address the
question. Of course the discussion on pen-l has become
a bit odd (Nathan Newman's not here is he?) because
there is nobody left on this list, if there ever was, who
defends the Rambouillet Accords. I certainly don't and
never did,
BTW, I grant to Paul Phillips and others that
the Turks have repressed the Kurds in a way that
the Serbs have not done to the Albanians, namely
this effort to suppress their language and culture.
OTOH, after the revocation of autonomy in 1990
the Serbs clearly began to discriminate
Michael Keaney wrote: ... Conservatives like F. A. Hayek and Leo Strauss
have also bemoaned the elevation of technique at the expense of theory and
analysis. While their contributions are hardly the first port of call for
subscribers to this list, there is clearly a sizeable number of folks
Peter Dorman wrote:
Seriously, the point is about the parallel attempts of sociobiology and
at least some forms of marxism to connect the endpoints of material and
intellectual life without working through all the mediations. (And even
then, of course, the account of "material life" is highly
Rod mentioned that he has Simmel on his web site, but he does not
mention that he has virtually every classic economics text of importance
linked there. Marx, Smith, Ricardo .. and many more esoteric
sources. Check it out. He has performed an invaluable service to
anybody with interests
G'day Henry,
Might the 'irrational euphoria' discerned by Camdessus not be a bit of
hedging - y'know, money trickling out of Wall St in anticipation of hikes
and such? Mebbe Asia's stock markets are slowly taking on the countenance
of relative safety for money that can still not find options as
In reply to Ken and Brad ...
As at 23 March, it was, I think, importantly true that the KLA was not
Albanian Kosovo and the Kosovar Serb militias were not mainstream Serbia. I
dunno if anyone saw that Drenica Valley doco, but all the killing of
Albanians in that seemed locals upon locals (with
Hi all,
As the participants in right-wing talk-radio say "first time caller, long
time listener"--last eight or so months, anyhow. I just want to say I
have found this list an invaluable tool in assessing NATO's ongoing
bloodletting and the Asian Financial Crisis (remember that?!) , and have
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