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From: Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:55 PM
To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
On 03/04/12 14:03, Geoff Wicks wrote:
...
To know the exact present copyright position we would
Apologies if the reply I have just sent to an email by Norman appears a bit
strange, but it is still a touch of the Gwilts.
I am now receiving some of the emails I missed and I received this one today
(12/4), but I see Norman sent it on 3/4.
I suspect the problem is Yahoo mail,
Best
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com wrote:
It does mean that Quanta is the best body to contact Jan Jones. They have
had a business relationship with her in which royalties were paid.
Intervention by other parties will only complicate matters.
That's a very
Morning John,
...
My memory is not too clear on the second reprint as I was not involved.
I think the Quanta committee paid someone to do a limited number of photocopied
versions.
The quality was abominable.
I think I've got one of those then! ;-)
Cheers,
Norm.
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On 01/04/2012 19:56, Geoff Wicks wrote:
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From: Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:40 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
Guys, I feel it would be remiss not to mention that owning the book
On 07/04/12 10:10, Billy wrote:
On 01/04/2012 19:56, Geoff Wicks wrote:
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From: Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:40 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
Guys, I feel it would be remiss
:
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From: Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:40 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
Guys, I feel it would be remiss not to mention that owning the book
(which I do) is one thing, however obtaining
In message 4f7ecda4.1040...@btinternet.com, Billy
bill.wa...@btinternet.com writes
Hi,
I was just going to scan my copy and convert it to mobi format for
reading on my Kindle v4.
Derek
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On 1 Apr 2012, at 19:56, Geoff Wicks wrote:
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From: Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:40 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
Guys, I feel it would be remiss not to mention
Geoff Wicks wrote:
As far as the technical side is concerned the problem with a
pdf file is that we will need it to be searchable and include
the illustrations. Perhaps the people who did the QL Today
pdf archive could help.
From a tech point of view, this is much less difficult than
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From: Timothy Swenson swenso...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 8:03 PM
To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
Depending on the author agreement, publishers may only have a limited
rights to a published work
On 03/04/12 14:03, Geoff Wicks wrote:
...
To know the exact present copyright position we would have to have
access to the legal agreement between Jan Jones and McGraw-Hill; the
legal agreement between Jan Jones and Quanta; and any possible legal
agreements between Quanta and McGraw-Hill.
I
To know the exact present copyright position we would have to have
access to the legal agreement between Jan Jones and McGraw-Hill; the
legal agreement between Jan Jones and Quanta; and any possible legal
agreements between Quanta and McGraw-Hill.
I doubt this will help much, but inside my
From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2012, 15:04
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
To know the exact present copyright position we would have to have
access to the legal agreement between Jan Jones
are we allowed to read the book
All the best - Bill
Now that has to be the most unhelpful and sarcastic comment so far. I was
only trying to help resolve the issue.
Dilwyn Jones
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On 3 Apr 2012, at 15:04, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
To know the exact present copyright position we would have to have
access to the legal agreement between Jan Jones and McGraw-Hill; the
legal agreement between Jan Jones and Quanta; and any possible legal
agreements between Quanta and McGraw-Hill.
Previous reprints were organised (I think) by Phil Borman and possibly
John Taylor.
There is an email to this list by John Taylor on 7/3/11:
The QL must be very much alive.
The used Jan Jones book sold for £23 on eBay.
Quanta sold them, new, for £8
JJ got £5 and Quanta paid for the reprint
The reprint agreement with Jan Jones was organised by Syd Humphries and it
would have
been he who included the Quanta copyright notice.
A lot of secrecy surrounded the agreement as JJ had expressed a wish that
the only
communication with her would be the annual payments and that on no
If an approach were to be made to Jan Jones it probably would best come
from Quanta as an official body. However I cannot stress enough that
there is all the difference in the world between a limited reprint with
paid royalties and complete publication on the internet.
Absolutely. Which is why
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From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:34 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
If an approach were to be made to Jan Jones it probably would best come
from Quanta as an official
On 03/04/2012 06:48, Geoff Wicks wrote:
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From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 5:34 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
If an approach were to be made to Jan Jones it probably
If SBASIC gets somehow on to the Raspberrypi, then demand for the manual
could be great. A neighbour has told me that there are electronic
printing houses where one supplies the file and they print say 100 copies
quite reasonably. Families use it to produce a ancestor book for the
family.
Ah I've fallen foul of the email guess the intention factor
My sincere apologies Dilwyn it was not meant as sarcasm, merely a light
hearted comment to highlight the complexity of copyright.
On reflection a smiley would have helped.
I shall goto Lurk mode until my ego repairs.
All the best -
On 01/04/2012 22:17, Tony Firshman wrote:
Billy wrote, on 1/Apr/12 21:29 | Apr1:
On 01/04/2012 17:40, Lee Privett wrote:
Guys, I feel it would be remiss not to mention that owning the book
(which I do) is one thing, however obtaining an electronic version
from somebody else may indeed break
On 31/03/2012 22:52, Timothy Swenson wrote:
For those interested, I scanned the doc, checked that that image to
text worked well, but did not include the diagrams. I have each
chapter in a .doc file. I can zip it up and send it to whomever. No
need to re-invent the wheel.
Tim Swenson
Guys, I feel it would be remiss not to mention that owning the book (which I
do) is one thing, however obtaining an electronic version from somebody else
may indeed break copyright especially if the copyright owner has not yet agreed
to this, however I do not know enough about copyright to
Guys, I feel it would be remiss not to mention that owning the book (which I
do)
is one thing, however obtaining an electronic version from somebody else may
indeed break copyright especially if the copyright owner has not yet agreed
to this,
however I do not know enough about copyright
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From: Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2012 5:40 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
Guys, I feel it would be remiss not to mention that owning the book (which
I do) is one thing, however
Depending on the author agreement, publishers may only have a limited
rights to a published work. After the time has expired, the rights go
back to the original author. There's been some QL software like this.
For Image Use, Museums and Libraries usually charge for images from
their
On 01/04/2012 20:03, Timothy Swenson wrote:
Depending on the author agreement, publishers may only have a limited
rights to a published work. After the time has expired, the rights go
back to the original author. There's been some QL software like this.
For Image Use, Museums and Libraries
On 01/04/2012 17:40, Lee Privett wrote:
Guys, I feel it would be remiss not to mention that owning the book (which I
do) is one thing, however obtaining an electronic version from somebody else
may indeed break copyright especially if the copyright owner has not yet agreed
to this, however I
Billy wrote, on 1/Apr/12 21:29 | Apr1:
On 01/04/2012 17:40, Lee Privett wrote:
Guys, I feel it would be remiss not to mention that owning the book
(which I do) is one thing, however obtaining an electronic version
from somebody else may indeed break copyright especially if the
copyright owner
Michael Bulford wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk
To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, 28 March 2012, 20:13
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
On 28/03/12 16:29, Dave Park wrote:
I managed to contact her and asked
For those interested, I scanned the doc, checked that that image to text
worked well, but did not include the diagrams. I have each chapter in a
.doc file. I can zip it up and send it to whomever. No need to
re-invent the wheel.
Tim Swenson
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Timothy Swenson wrote:
For those interested, I scanned the doc, checked that that image to text
worked well, but did not include the diagrams. I have each chapter in a
.doc file. I can zip it up and send it to whomever. No need to re-invent
the wheel.
Tim Swenson
Can you send it to me
- Original Message -
From: Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk
To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, 28 March 2012, 20:13
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
On 28/03/12 16:29, Dave Park wrote:
I managed to contact her and asked for permission. They said they
would think
There was talk on this list some time ago, about someone converting the
Jan Jones SuperBasic book to pdf. (Was it Dave Park?)
I was wondering if any progress had been made?
Cheers,
Norm.
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Registered address:
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I think it may have been Malcolm, I did supply a regenerated front cover
for that very purpose. The sticking point (I believe) was about contacting
Jan Jones for permission for it to go out in to the wide world in
electronic form.
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Norman Dunbar
On 28/03/12 13:37, Lee Privett wrote:
I think it may have been Malcolm, I did supply a regenerated front cover
for that very purpose. The sticking point (I believe) was about contacting
Jan Jones for permission for it to go out in to the wide world in
electronic form.
Thanks Lee. I found an
Do we know if Dave was successful?
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.ukwrote:
On 28/03/12 13:37, Lee Privett wrote:
I think it may have been Malcolm, I did supply a regenerated front cover
for that very purpose. The sticking point (I believe) was about
I managed to contact her and asked for permission. They said they
would think about it and get back to me and never did. I did not
receive a response to a followup two weeks later.
I didn't want to follow up too hard and appear all pestilential and
harrassy and maybe turn them against what we
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From: Dave Park plasticu...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:29 PM
To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com
Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Jan Jones
I managed to contact her and asked for permission. They said they
would think about it and get back to me
On 28/03/2012 12:12, Norman Dunbar wrote:
There was talk on this list some time ago, about someone converting
the Jan Jones SuperBasic book to pdf. (Was it Dave Park?)
I was wondering if any progress had been made?
Cheers,
Norm.
Do you have an Ereader too Norman? (;-)
All the best - Bill
Evening Billy,
On 28/03/12 18:31, Billy wrote:
Do you have an Ereader too Norman? (;-)
I do indeed. I have two. My iRiver Story, the one with the keyboard, is
excellent in most cases, but doesn't do pdf very well. I use that one
for my business books.
The best thing about this one is that
On 28/03/12 16:29, Dave Park wrote:
I managed to contact her and asked for permission. They said they
would think about it and get back to me and never did. I did not
receive a response to a followup two weeks later.
I didn't want to follow up too hard and appear all pestilential and
harrassy
On 28/03/2012 19:28, Norman Dunbar wrote:
Evening Billy,
On 28/03/12 18:31, Billy wrote:
Do you have an Ereader too Norman? (;-)
I do indeed. I have two. My iRiver Story, the one with the keyboard,
is excellent in most cases, but doesn't do pdf very well. I use that
one for my business
In message 9F79D908175E4C9AB25A57D8941E5BD0@d3hkh9x94, Dilwyn Jones
dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk writes
Malcolm Cadman wrote:
In message 8dcea9cd-97c6-4ccd-a944-8dc829f4b...@btinternet.com,
John
Taylor j_taylo...@btinternet.com writes
The QL must be very much alive.
The used Jan Jones book
The QL must be very much alive.
The used Jan Jones book sold for £23 on eBay.
Quanta sold them, new, for £8
JJ got £5 and Quanta paid for the reprint out of their £3.
John Taylor
Probably becoming a 'rare' book now ... would be worth even more if
had
been printed with dust jacket? . :-)
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I have both versions and the book, perhaps it's time to sell them
Never! I have the original one and I will keep it.
Cheers...Ralf
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The QL must be very much alive.
The used Jan Jones book sold for £23 on eBay.
Quanta sold them, new, for £8
JJ got £5 and Quanta paid for the reprint out of their £3.
John Taylor
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In message 8dcea9cd-97c6-4ccd-a944-8dc829f4b...@btinternet.com, John
Taylor j_taylo...@btinternet.com writes
The QL must be very much alive.
The used Jan Jones book sold for £23 on eBay.
Quanta sold them, new, for £8
JJ got £5 and Quanta paid for the reprint out of their £3.
John Taylor
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Dilwyn Jones
dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.ukwrote:
Malcolm Cadman wrote:
In message 8dcea9cd-97c6-4ccd-a944-8dc829f4b...@btinternet.com, John
Taylor j_taylo...@btinternet.com writes
The QL must be very much alive.
The used Jan Jones book sold for £23 on eBay.
John.
I am still, however, very intrigued that the QUANTA limited edition
states
that there is a Quanta copyright and not that it was reprinted under
licence
If you look in any technical book you will find that the publisher has
accepted the responsibility for maintaining the copyright.
This
- Original Message -
From: John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 4:57 PM
Subject: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book
John.
I am still, however, very intrigued that the QUANTA limited edition
states
that there is a Quanta copyright
John Gilpin
Don't get excited John.
John Mason wrote to me and because he put QLUser in the subject line it
was re-routed into my QLUser folder.
I then replied to QLUser.
Sorry. I have sent a copy to John Mason, but I agree with you, the
project is a NoNo.
John Taylor.
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 at 22:56:12, jms1 wrote:
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- Original Message -
From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Jan Jones Book
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 at 23:46:11, jms1 wrote:
(ref
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 at 23:46:11, jms1 wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
From: Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip robots ignoring meta
Somewwhere I read that these programs check to see whether the web page
contains the meta tags and if not ignores them. I could be years
http://www.sincuser.f9.co.uk/048/qlink.htm
Membership is by subscription to the magazine
I do think I remember that very phrase from the dim and distant
past.
Would this have been the short lived SUB
Ah - I have now read that quote in context - it was used by IQLUG.
This page was written in
Most important is the bare text after body
That is what gets picked up in -all- my web site mentions, not the
META
tags (even 'description' seems ignored). I gather robots mainly
ignore
those now, as people were putting really stupid ones with a vast
number
of words.
It is vital to look at the
Dilwyn made the point that Quanta membership was based on a
subscription to the magazine.
Nothing could be further from the truth. The subscription is for
membership to Quanta, period.
Hmm, I must be mixing this up with another organisation. The sentence
membership is by subscription to the
Dilwyn Jones wrote:
Dilwyn made the point that Quanta membership was based on a
subscription to the magazine.
Nothing could be further from the truth. The subscription is for
membership to Quanta, period.
Hmm, I must be mixing this up with another organisation. The sentence
membership is by
Tony Firshman wrote:
snip
http://www.sincuser.f9.co.uk/048/qlink.htm
Membership is by subscription to the magazine
I do think I remember that very phrase from the dim and distant past.
Would this have been the short lived SUB
All the best - Bill
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Dilwyn made the point that Quanta membership was based on a
subscription to the magazine.
Nothing could be further from the truth. The subscription is for
membership to Quanta, period.
Hmm, I must be mixing this up with another organisation. The
sentence membership is by subscription to the
Tony Firshman wrote:
snip
http://www.sincuser.f9.co.uk/048/qlink.htm
Membership is by subscription to the magazine
I do think I remember that very phrase from the dim and distant
past.
Would this have been the short lived SUB
All the best - Bill
Ah yes, the Super User Bureau. Newsletter produced
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 at 18:36:52, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
There's a shop in Bangor called Quantum Leap Tattooing (how do you
spell that last word???). Wonder if I asked them to tattoo a QL on me
if they'd know what I meant???
Reminds me of the advert seen in a tattoo shop in
Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:47:14 +,() Malcolm Cadman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:
I wonder what game you have got planned next ... ?
Hmmm... I dunno... maybe a port of Doom? ;-) (With sufficient speed now on
the new version of QPC (3.30 - another plug ;-) ) that will be possible in
most colour
Phoebus Dokos schrieb:
Hmmm... I dunno... maybe a port of Doom? ;-) (With sufficient speed now
on the new version of QPC (3.30 - another plug ;-) ) that will be
possible in most colour enabled platforms (QXL excluded... Q40/60 were
already capable)
... and with a multiplayer over lan option
Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:46:32 +0100,() wolfgang mhlegger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:
Phoebus Dokos schrieb:
Hmmm... I dunno... maybe a port of Doom? ;-) (With sufficient speed now
on the new version of QPC (3.30 - another plug ;-) ) that will be
possible in most colour enabled platforms (QXL
Quanta is regarded by the taxman as a self trading company, that
is to say it trades solely for the
benefit of its members, and thus it is not liable for tax on its
earnings from sales to them.
Are Quanta actually allowed to sell to non-members in that case?
Assuming sales to non-members are
Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:58:59 +,() John Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:
Quanta is regarded by the taxman as a self trading company, that is
to say it trades solely for the
benefit of its members, and thus it is not liable for tax on its
earnings from sales to them.
Are Quanta actually
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:58:59 +, John Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quanta is regarded by the taxman as a self trading company, that is
to say it trades solely for the
benefit of its members, and thus it is not liable for tax on its
earnings from sales to them.
Are Quanta actually
Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:07:31 +,() Malcolm Cadman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote:
snip
Yet being a member of Quanta isn't that bad :-) ... a small subscription
a year helps to oils the wheels a bit.
Oh I understand, but the problem is that all I can see is a bit of...
ermmm... kind of
It seems you can buy her QL book from McGraw-Hill.
Look at http://www.clive.nl/detail/23940/
Ian Pizer
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