[Fwd: [recoznet2] Re: Information requested on Yorta Yorta in Australia]

1999-02-24 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
At 09:42 AM 23/1/99, Loraine wrote: Is anyone able to help this man, please? He wrote me the following: "The gist of what the One Nation like people in Canada are saying is that the Courts ruled that the Yorta Yorta lost all their aborignal rights and title by not actively practising their

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Re: Information requested on Yorta Yorta inAustralia]

1999-02-24 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Rod, thank you very much ... and I will be very much interested also in learning more of what the People of this land say. When I heard the news reports of Justice Olney's decision being handed down, I just couldn't drive any further; had to stop and catch my breath and wait 'til my eyes

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Howard trying to shut down tent embassy]

1999-02-24 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
The complete article is at: http://www.news.com.au/headlines/ Trudy = The Daily Telegraph Secret plan to close Aboriginal tent embassy By HELEN McCABE 25jan99 THE Federal Government has paved the way for removing the Aboriginal tent embassy in

[recoznet2] This is a test

1999-02-24 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
To see if the archive is receiving our messages. Trudy --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words:unsubscribe

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Howard trying to shut down tent embassy]

1999-02-24 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Trudy and Rod Bray wrote: Territories Minister Ian Macdonald quietly introduced a 1932 trespass ordinance late last year for the "parliamentary triangle", The Daily Telegraph has learned. not quietly enough! thank god there's still some people with sense working in there w

[Fwd: [recoznet2] site upgraded]

1999-02-24 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
there are a number of additions to the website. http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2/ the sign up for the list via the web page is now working. not yet for the digest but it's working for every post subscriptions. there are some new links. I've added info about three other related lists.

[Fwd: [recoznet2] site upgraded]

1999-02-24 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Paul Canning wrote: no digest yet. if green net aren't able to then are there any issues with using an existing - commercial - free service? that should be archives, not digest, it's important no? paul -- |: Paul Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] ® http://www.rainbow.net.au/~canning Queers

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Aboriginal Tent Embassy Sovereignty Day]

1999-02-24 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Arrived home from Canberra about an hour or so ago. When we left this morning, we really didn't know what to expect in light of the reports that the Territories Minister, Ian Macdonald. intended to remove the Aboriginal Tent Embassy. Even the late news on Monday night foreshadowed that there

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Re: ABC Newslink - Opposition supports push for]

1999-02-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Paul Canning wrote: I'm just finishing Diane Bell's book and have just been reading about Labor's sell out of the Ngarrindgeri. I'd like to hear Mr Melham admit that their support for Howard on Hindmarsh was wrong. But they won't. It'll just be the same old, 'trust us and we'll do the

[Fwd: [recoznet2] form letters]

1999-02-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
just a reminder that we now have a form letters page on the website so please send through your form or other letters to inspire others to get writing. the page also has some useful links on letter writing and people to contact. paul -- |: Paul Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] ®

[Fwd: [recoznet2] [SSO] Letter: Black Queen's Ball]

1999-02-25 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Sydney Star Observer January 28 LETTERS We were extremely pleased to see your leading story in this week's Star. Your continued support for reconciliation is welcomed by us. We would like to take this opportunity to announce through you that we will be organising our first Black Queen's

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Closure discriminatory]

1999-02-26 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
open, as they obviously have. Trudy and Rod Bray wrote: some Aboriginal addicts in the area will pay with their lives as a direct result of his decision. The longer he waits before restoring the exchange, the more will receive a death sentence. this is a little bit alarmist. HIV is no longer

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Closure discriminatory]

1999-02-26 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Sorry folks, the info I was given by Premier's staff about Premier's fax number was incorrect. Send urgent faxes to Premier at 02 9228 3552, that should work. - Sharon On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 02:39:48 +1100 Sharon Byard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also fax the Premier at the Premier's office,

[Fwd: [recoznet2] emailing pollies]

1999-02-28 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
on emailing pollies. my experience has been that if the email is set out like a formal letter it is far more likely to get a response than if it is set out like an email. what are other people's experiences? cheers paul -- |: Paul Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] ®

[Fwd: [recoznet2] The Australian - look out?]

1999-02-28 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Trudy and Rod Bray wrote: I have sent a letter about the Caroline Lane closure to "First Byte" at The Australian but have no way of knowing if it is printed or not. Any Recoznetter who gets the Australian - can you let me know if it is printed? Thanks, Trudy Oops!

[Fwd: [recoznet2] More on Ein Reich stand-off]

1999-02-28 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Also from SMH's breaking stories: Friday, February 5, 1999 Oldfield rejects ultimatum One Nation senior adviser David Oldfield today rejected a threat by Queensland members of the party to resign unless its leaders stood down to throw their posts open for democratic elections.

[Fwd: [recoznet2] News item on Caroline Lane]

1999-02-28 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
The Sydney Morning Herald Workers call for heroin overhaul Date: 08/02/99 By DAMIEN MURPHY Health workers in the dumped Caroline Lane needle exchange service in Redfern have called for radical changes to the Government's drug policy. The call came in a Health Department review released

[Fwd: [recoznet2] A day of protest, action, and carnival on 18th June 1999]

1999-02-28 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
**please circulate widely** A PROPOSAL FOR: A day of protest, action, and carnival in financial centres across the globe on 18th June 1999. Wherever there is oppression there is resistance. A proposal has been made by various groups and movements of activists from England

Re: [recoznet2] Imagine sacred country

1999-03-01 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
: At 04:51 PM 1/3/99, Trudy and Rod Bray wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ENGLAND IN CONTEXT The English experiment in life is, admittedly, part of a wider and longer process which reaches back to the 'spread' to Indo- European ways into the lives of others, and before that a European

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Kumarangk Legal Defence Fund site updated]

1999-03-03 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
The Kumarangk Legal Defence Fund Inc. (KLDF) website has been updated with: • news of the cases • a letter from the Chapman's lawyer about the site • a paper on the KLDF - Tricky Legal Business: The Impact of Legal Processes on the Campaign Against the Hindmarsh Island Bridge • lots more

[Fwd: [recoznet2] NAIDOC week]

1999-03-03 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Can let you know tomorrow, Paul ... will find out exact dates from work, but to the best of my knowledge, it falls during the school holidays in July. kola At 03:46 PM 2/10/99 +1100, you wrote: does anyone know when NAIDOC week is this year? I cannot find *anything* about it on the net.

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Tent embassy in world news]

1999-03-03 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
The tent embassy protest is beginning to get coverage in the world news. Trudy 1734 GMT February 10 1999 CANBERRA — Aboriginal elders planted 211 spear-like sticks into the front lawns of Australia s Parliament House Wednesday to mark their suffering since FOX News --- Protest Sticks

[Fwd: [recoznet2] NAIDOC week]

1999-03-03 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Paul, According to the Koori Mail (1.7.1998 p.4) NAIDOC Week falls in the first full week (Sunday to Sunday) during July. There was a very useful history of NAIDOC Week on the same page. Cheers Lynn --- RecOzNet2 has a page @

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Constitutional preamble: Fear of debate!]

1999-03-04 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
forwarded with permision From: "eva cox" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some notes for life matters tomorrow Fear of debate! Does talking about race issues create more bias or more acceptance? Last year one of the major factors in senator Harradine's decision to 'blink' and pass the native title

[Fwd: [recoznet2] [Fwd: (fwd) Announcing New Email Forum on Tibet]]

1999-03-04 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Posting this for a friend. Trudy On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 02:02:22 GMT, in talk.politics.tibet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Announcing a new email forum for the discussion of Mongol, Uyghur, Taiwanese and Tibetan independence (mutti-l). The mutti-l list will host discussions on how to transform

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Re: ACTION ALERT: TENT EMBASSY ACTION, MON 15 FEB, 8am]

1999-03-07 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Thanks Trudy I guess that explains why i can't find it. Bruce --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words:

[Fwd: [recoznet2] (Fwd) ABC Newslink - Workers for Aboriginal health services so]

1999-03-07 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Oh dear, I have it good authority that Centrelink/Abstudy have given the Centre for Aboriginal Studies at Curtin Uni such a hard time that only half of their enroled students will arrive on monday. This is for the Bachelor of Applied Science (Indigenous Comunity Health) degree.

[Fwd: [recoznet2] (Fwd) ABC Newslink: NT fruit, veg prices to soar under GST: Sn]

1999-03-07 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
More expensive nutrition=More expensive health? h... Very financially rational! --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Trudy Bray" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "news-clip" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:37:33 +1000

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Fw: Provocation up on the Hill]

1999-03-08 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
hmmm, seems I forgot to check my "deleted items" folder... thought it sounded familiar...ooops ;) Thanks Trudy... peace Liam Liam, Recoznet2 is not slow. I first forwarded the message to the list on Thurs, Feb 11/99. Maybe Jim is a little slow...grin Trudy - Liam

[Fwd: [recoznet2] My fax to John Howard]

1999-03-08 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Good one, Bruce. I hope Howard has his hearing aids turned on for his heart and mind as well as his ears. Your letter should be an inspiration for other recoznetters to follow suit - the meeting is at 8 am tomorrow morning. Trudy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[Fwd: [recoznet2] My fax to John Howard]

1999-03-08 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
A enlightening and persuasive letter, Bruce, which would convince any sane person. However, I have just seen Howard on Channel 7 News mumbling something about a recognition of God ( his), being included in the Preamble to the Constitution. Exploiting Racism is not enough for our P.M.

[Fwd: [recoznet2] A day of protest, action, and carnival on 18th June 1999]

1999-03-09 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Well, if they are going to go to "this much trouble" and upgrade their work, maybe we should talk to them.. What addresses do you have? for ""Reclaim the Streets (RTS, a popular movement seeking the liberation of city streets and public spaces using direct action,"" Jeez, where's Lyndon?

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Re: from AAP: Howard determined to open Olympic Games]

1999-03-09 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
As usual, he wants it both ways. Another reason to boycott the Games. --- Trudy Weird, is it because you guys live upside down? ;-) Doesn't ones head get a little sore, or do you roll around on head trolleys? == Oh oh, what's this?? Australia is the first western

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Query about tent embassy]

1999-03-09 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
mobilize people very quickly in such circumstances. Don Trudy and Rod Bray wrote: Paul Gill wrote: On the issue of the stuff up the hill though, I am incensed about it. I want to go to the Tent Embassy today and ask if there is any way we can promote their cause. A friend

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Howard and addiction.]

1999-03-09 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Thanks for your uplifting and illuminating contribution, Ian. The human spirit can overcome horrific setbacks given half a chance. Unfortunately, our Leader Howard is refusing to give people in desperate need that half a chance. Howard reminds me of ''A blind man on a galloping horse" ,

[recoznet2] United Nations World Heritage Committee

1999-03-09 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Maybe our friend in Europe, Bernard Blanc, has the information on where and how to counter the Govt lobbying of Committee members. Bernard? Trudy * From ABC on-line news 8/3/99 Govt to spend $1 million to keep Kakadu off in-danger list The Federal Government believes its

[recoznet2] Howard's disgrace

1999-03-09 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Forwarded with permission: Tony Mockeridge wrote: hi boxers well he's really hit the all time low this time. howard's rejection of reconciliation ensures we continue to live in a divided society .the abhorrent practises of apartheid are alive and well in howard country. howard's assertion

[recoznet2] Tribe wants Fiji capital back

1999-03-10 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
The times, they are a changin. Trudy * The Age Breaking News Tribe wants Fiji capital back Fijian tribes have begun court action demanding compensation for land they say was wrongfully taken from them. The land became the country's capital city,

Re: [recoznet2] Howard's disgrace

1999-03-10 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Hi Lance, Bushranger Ned wrote: I am at odds with the last comments by Tony Mockeridge and the aggressive manner in which he has singled out one individuals faults for all the trouble with prejudice and racism in this country. I think that Tony believes, as many of us do, that the Prime

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Tent embassy in world news]

1999-03-10 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
not that I'd want to encourage *anyone to leave us (sob, knashes teeth) but it's easy. just click on the link in the signature file below. paul Dario Jana wrote: please, take me off --- RecOzNet2 has a page @

[Fwd: [recoznet2] [CNN/AP] Aborigines plan to protest new land rights laws at the UN]

1999-03-10 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
I think ian MacDonald deserves a prize: for reigniting the fires of protest and for encouraging early interest in ATSI issues by the 32000 international media flocking to australia in 16 months. three cheers for ian macdonald! paul Aborigines plan to protest new land rights laws at the

[Fwd: [recoznet2] [CNN/REUTERS] Police arrest two at Aboriginal fire protest]

1999-03-10 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Police arrest two at Aboriginal fire protest February 15, 1999 Web posted at: 4:19 AM EST (0919 GMT) CANBERRA, Australia (Reuters) -- Australian police on Monday extinguished an Aboriginal "fire protest" on the lawns of Australia's parliament house for the second time in a week and

[Fwd: [recoznet2] men's business?]

1999-03-11 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
hey, how's it going? for an RIS assignment, I need to asses a couple of newspaper articles, one of the articles I have is from last year, it is about a ceremony from North East Arnhem Land, and it has to do with circumcision I was wondering a few things, (excuse my ignorance in these

[Fwd: [recoznet2] [atsic] Media Release: Negotiation Led to Success in Torres Strait Native Title Claims]

1999-03-11 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
does anyone know? peace 12 February 1999 Negotiation led to success in Torres Strait native title claims The two successful native title claims in the Torres Strait announced today are not only historically significant but are also further evidence of the benefits of negotiated

[Fwd: [recoznet2] men's business?]

1999-03-11 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
What Nation is in the North East Arnhem Land area? Probably Yolgnu. --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words:

[Fwd: [recoznet2] men's business?]

1999-03-11 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Liam, I don't wish to sound pompous, but is it possible that circumcision rites and particulary pictures are inapprorpiate matters for white researchers? How is the cultural property of the people to be protected? Obviously there will be some divergence of views, and perhaps Aboriginal men

[recoznet2] High Court refuses to hear appeal!

1999-03-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
High Court refuses to hear native title plea Source: AAP | Published: Friday March 12 2:22:47 PM The West Australian and Northern Territory governments today lost their bid to fight in the High Court a landmark native title win. The governments sought to bypass an appeal

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Re: from AAP: Tent embassy protesters spear flag]

1999-03-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
This is what I call a timely action ---Indigenous Australians are destroying and returning the emblem of the Colonial Power. This is in stark contrast to the actions of Howard the Recalcitrant, who is determined to continue the Tradition of Injustice that began with the Invasion of the

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Arguments for the 'No' vote]

1999-03-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
. Hopefully, Howard will be a bad memory in the not too distant future---in the meantime, as you say ,we must continue to work for Indigenous Justice and the Republic. Laurie Laurie and Desley Forde [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Trudy and Rod Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RecOzNet2

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Howard's ABC---New LIfe for Ein Reich.]

1999-03-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Laurie, I hope you have passed on your observations to the ABC? Trudy Laurie Forde wrote: I don't know how many of you saw Australian Story on the ABC last night, but it amounted to a P-e Hn benefit night.Talking about the ABC being taken over by the Right---my daughter did a

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Stupid questions]

1999-03-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Just a stupid question from the other part of the world. What means “pass a GST on food” ? And what is a GTS ? And an another less stupid question. Some months ago, i’ve found a GREAT web site in Australie, the site of the Green Left Weekly magazine. Now, it seems to be close and I’m an

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Arguments for the 'No' vote]

1999-03-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
for Indigenous Justice and the Republic. Laurie Laurie and Desley Forde [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Trudy and Rod Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RecOzNet2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 4:21 AM Subject: [recoznet2] Arguments for the 'No' vote 17-02-99 Why I

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Brekie with Phil]

1999-03-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Hi All Just had breakfast with Phil Ruddock and the Australians for Reconciliation Group from Albury. He was here to present Sister Maureen Hummerston with a certificate of recognition for her outstanding work in promoting reconciliation and more so for her help in assisting local

[Fwd: [recoznet2] back online]

1999-03-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
list haven't got the whole story from green.net yesterday but the absence of list in the past 24hrs was due to a server upgrade their end. I thought it would spit out yesterdays messages but it seems they've gone :{ so please resend them! sorry 'bout that, pains of community networking.

[Fwd: [recoznet2] H*lp from France ?]

1999-03-12 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
From: bernard blanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Canning wrote: Subject: [recoznet2] [CNN/REUTERS] Police arrest two at Aboriginal fire protest Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 23:57:57 +1100 From: Paul Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

[recoznet2] The same Govt lies!

1999-03-13 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Australian government defends its treatment of Aborigines From AP 13mar99 10.15(AEDT)AUSTRALIA made a special appearance before a UN panel today to reject allegations that it discriminates against Aboriginal property rights and to assert that it has taken steps to right old

Re: [recoznet2] Why I am not voting for the Republic.

1999-03-13 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Hello Ian, I have not had time to comment but I appreciated both your postings! I will post this to Recoznet2. Thank you. Trudy Ian Henderson wrote: Trudy, This si a copy of a post I sent to the Soapbox. Given the present discussion on Recoznet, maybe it is of interest. Ian Henderson.

[Fwd: [recoznet2] [Fwd: Arguments for the 'No' vote]]

1999-03-13 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
17-02-99 Why I will vote 'no' on the republic and the preamble. The Republic. Even though I feel that Australia should become a republic, as things stand at present I will not vote 'yes'. I have come to this decision not just because of the undemocratic model being proposed but also

Re: [Fwd: [recoznet2] theblock]

1999-03-14 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
. Trudy irene wrote: irene wtote trudy i think i have all of these attached files that are sent out -- From: Trudy and Rod Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RecOzNet2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Fwd: [recoznet2] theblock] Date: Sunday, March 14, 1999 10:20 AM

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Infos ?]

1999-03-14 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Subject: Help from France ? Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:23:18 + From: bernard blanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Canning wrote: Subject: [recoznet2] [CNN/REUTERS] Police arrest two at Aboriginal fire protest

[Fwd: [recoznet2] RE: ABC Newslink - Labor Member questions God's inclusion in preambl]

1999-03-14 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
I don't think he said that 30% were atheists, Peter, in fact, the percentage of those is actually very small. What Howard is doing for most of them is subjugating them to the Christian God - something Muslims and a host of other religions mind very much. But you're right, of course, the

[Fwd: [recoznet2] write the preamble]

1999-03-14 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
hello All, the Canberra Times announced on its front page saturday the 20/02/99 a competition to write the preamble. It goes something like this: It is now declared that the Canberra Timees shall run a competition to generate the best preamble, the conditions of which are as follows: 1.

[Fwd: [recoznet2] write the preamble]

1999-03-14 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
karyn fearnside wrote: hello All, the Canberra Times announced on its front page saturday the 20/02/99 a competition to write the preamble. It goes something like this: It is now declared that the Canberra Timees shall run a competition to generate the best preamble, the conditions

[Fwd: [recoznet2] write the preamble]

1999-03-14 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
At 03:22 PM 22/2/99, Trudy and Rod Bray wrote: In case anyone needs them, here are the points agreed upon at ConCon as a basis for writing the preamble. I think Recoznetters can acquit themselves quite well at this. Anyone who sends one in, could you post it to Recoznet2 after the closing

[Fwd: [recoznet2] write the preamble]

1999-03-14 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
the tooth fairy!). I think if we touch on all the elements but imbue them with better values then we can't go wrong. Trudy Rod Hagen wrote: At 03:22 PM 22/2/99, Trudy and Rod Bray wrote: In case anyone needs them, here are the points agreed upon at ConCon as a basis for writing

[Fwd: [recoznet2] write the preamble]

1999-03-14 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
How about "we acknowledge the Dreaming forces in country." Bruce --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words:

[Fwd: [recoznet2] RE: ABC Newslink - Labor Member questions God's inclusion inpreambl]

1999-03-15 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
. Australia (61) 7 54477440 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From: Rod Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [recoznet2] RE: ABC Newslink - Labor Member questions God's inclusion inpreambl Date: Monday, 22 February 1999 17:05 At 08:33 AM 22/2/99, Trudy and Rod Bray wrote: I don't

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Redfern Residents Action Group]

1999-03-15 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
list members may be interested in a new web site established by he Redfern Residents Action Group The site is located at: http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Jungle/4021/ The site will be adding much information over the coming weeks. The Group is developing a policy statement and would

[Fwd: [recoznet2] HSC Studies of Religion]

1999-03-15 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
roy 4563 Q. Australia (61) 7 54477440 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From: Rod Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [recoznet2] RE: ABC Newslink - Labor Member questions God's inclusion inpreambl Date: Monday, 22 February 1999 17:05 At 08:33 AM 22/2/99, Trudy and Rod

[Fwd: [recoznet2] RE: ABC Newslink - Labor Member questions God's inclusion in preambl]

1999-03-15 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Ah, a secular state. I don't believe in that. Some soul please. And leave the European style state in the 20th century. Bruce --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL

[Fwd: [recoznet2] RE: ABC Newslink - Labor Member questions God's inclusioninpreambl]

1999-03-15 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
At 07:18 PM 22/2/99, Dee Elliott wrote: Rod, re your brawl with vic ed... are there schools in Victoria which teach Aboriginal dreaming or other religions apart from the Christian one(s)? My objection to my children receiving religious education has been not that Christianity's belief

[Fwd: [recoznet2] write the preamble]

1999-03-15 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
At 05:33 PM 22/2/99, Trudy and Rod Bray wrote: Hi Rod, Actually it is not really that difficult to acknowledge a variety of beliefs - the trick is to think beyond the word 'god'. Just think, if we do well, we may be able to influence the elimination of the contradictions (no, I don't believe

[recoznet2] From the Letters Page SMH

1999-03-16 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Letters SMH March 13, 1999 Convenient amnesia We are nine Aboriginal people from all over Australia who have come to the University of Sydney to acquire knowledge and skills that will help us improve the often wretched health of people in our communities. Like other students, we are paying HECS

[Fwd: [recoznet2] RE: ABC Newslink - Labor Member questions God's inclusion in preambl]

1999-03-16 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
I agree. There may be many who claim to have no religion ( and even some of those just don't want to identify what they do believe in because they don't trust the state) but there are many who do. The only problem is that generally the followers of the christian religions assume that

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Qld. Premier urges all Republicans to back Howard in Referendum]

1999-03-16 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Hi everyone, Thought you might be interested in this latest press release from the Qld (Labor) Premier about the preamble. Regards Susan . To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Qld. Media statement - Premier urges all Republicans to back Howard in Referendum Date: Tue,

Re: [Fwd: [recoznet2] Addition to recoznet]

1999-03-17 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
I admire your sentiments, Lance, and a major step in the right direction from Howard narrow vision but, is the Rainbow Serpent significant to all First Australian? Or do we have the same problem that by naming the sacred we shut out those who believe in a different manifestation? Trudy

[recoznet2] List of books

1999-03-18 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Piet has asked a question about which books to read in order to gain a better understanding of Indigenous Australians. This gave me an idea that if we can put together a list of worthy books we could then put them on our webpage for everyone to consult if they wish. Any contributions please?

[Fwd: [recoznet2] RE: ABC Newslink - Labor Member questions God's inclusion in preambl]

1999-03-17 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Is a constituion itself a 'modernist' thing, in a post-modern society? How about lots of different localities having their own song/charters, each a verse in a larger song? Am i getting silly (or is this how it was pre 1788?) Bruce ---

[Fwd: [recoznet2] RE: ABC Newslink - Labor Member questions God's inclusion in preambl]

1999-03-17 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Hurrah for the POST-MODERN society!! Ian Henderson. Is a constituion itself a 'modernist' thing, in a post-modern society? How about lots of different localities having their own song/charters, each a verse in a larger song? Am i getting silly (or is this how it was pre 1788?) Bruce

[Fwd: [recoznet2] RE: ABC Newslink - Labor Member questions God's inclusion inpreambl]

1999-03-17 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
At 04:26 PM 23/2/99, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is a constituion itself a 'modernist' thing, in a post-modern society? I've always been intrigued by the idea of a "post-modern" society. Is it something which is modern but chained to a telegraph pole? Is it something which is so far in front

[Fwd: [recoznet2] men's business?]

1999-03-17 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Liam, Sorry for being so late in getting back to you. You probably have the information you need by now. It would seem that there was men's business and women's business in all societies but to a lesser or greater extent. Much of it would depend on whether the tribal group followed a

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Extradition Report]

1999-03-17 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
The Canadian minister for Justice is refusing to release a ''Report on the Internal Review of the Extradition of Mr. Leonard Peltier''... this report, should it be released, will bring Leonard back to Canada where he will be a FREE MAN... please take 5 minutes to fill out the form at the

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Re: SMH - Howard's FBI war on drugs]

1999-03-17 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
All Howard, the Sallies, and others who waffle on in this way are doing is providing assistance for the drug smugglers, and all those others who profit form this industry to make more money. Don Trudy Bray wrote: I suggest we start a 'zero tolerance' policy on Howard. --- Trudy

[Fwd: [recoznet2] RE: ABC Newslink - Labor Member questions God's inclusion inpreambl]

1999-03-17 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
February 1999 18:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [recoznet2] RE: ABC Newslink - Labor Member questions God's inclusion inpreambl At 08:33 AM 22/2/99, Trudy and Rod Bray wrote: I don't think he said that 30% were atheists, Peter, in fact, the percentage of those is actually very smal

[recoznet2] AAP: GST would hurt Aborigines says ATSIC

1999-03-18 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Australian Financial Review March 18, 1999 GST would hurt Aborigines, says ATSIC ATSIC has told the senate committee on the GST that proposed tax reforms would increase the hardship for already disadvantaged indigenous people. The Aboriginal and Torres Strait and Islander Commission said in

[Fwd: [recoznet2] The preamble]

1999-03-18 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Friends, As a Buddhist I have misgivings about the appearance of a reference to God in our constitutional preamble. But then so what! How important is this 'preamble' going to be: written by a failed suburban solicitor, a man whose autobiography had to be written by ghost writers and which

[Fwd: [recoznet2] ABC News item relevant to our discussion]

1999-03-18 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
ABC Newslink Aussies back unity and diversity in preamble Wednesday 24 February, 1999 (3:03pm AEDT) The Constitutional Centenary Foundation says submissions made to its quest for ideas on a preamble shows Australians strongly support a theme of unity and diversity. The foundation

[Fwd: [recoznet2] the preamble]

1999-03-18 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
over the discussion". We have so much to learn Your welcome really helped. Thank you. Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:49:42 +1100 From: Trudy and Rod Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: A just society, not just an economy! To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Some Dutch date on drug use]

1999-03-18 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
I found this on aus.politics and thought it might be of interest to recoznetters. Trudy ** From the Dutch Embassy web site August 6, 1998 http://www.netherlands-embassy.org/drug-inf.htm Press, Public and Cultural Affairs Drug Policy and Crime

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Addition to last (misspelt-oops) message]

1999-03-18 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Also from aus.politics: Official text of Dutch protest against the DEA book. Monday 9 Jan 1995, The Hague Her Majesty's Minister of Foreign Affairs of The Netherlands drs. Hans van Mierlo has officially annouced the following answer in writing to parliamentary questions by the MP Thom De

[Fwd: [recoznet2] Re: The Age Breaking News: Howard threatens uni cuts]

1999-03-18 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Trudy Bray wrote: Picture him in a uniform with lots of braid, a peaked cap over sunglasses, built up shoes and carrying a riding crop... --- Trudy you can tell that Trudy's in Mardi Gras mode can't you? RAIN!! and the rainbow serpent is a rain totem ... PRAY!! PRAY FOR NO RAIN SATURDAY

[recoznet2] Booklist and recycled messages

1999-03-18 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
The book list is coming along nicely. Please keep them coming! Today the last of the old messages were sent through the list and all of them should now be accessible on the archive. If anyone needs the URL again, it is http://www.mail-archive.com/ Trudy

Re: [recoznet2] List of books

1999-03-18 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Trudy and Rod Bray wrote: Piet has asked a question about which books to read in order to gain a better understanding of Indigenous Australians. This gave me an idea that if we can put together a list of worthy books we could then put them on our webpage for everyone to consult if they wish

[recoznet2] UN decisin on Wik!

1999-03-19 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
UN committee calls for moratorium on Wik laws Source: AAP | Published: Friday March 19 2:17:13 PM The United Nations' race discrimination committee has called on the Australian Government to suspend its native title laws and reopen talks with Aboriginal people as a matter

[recoznet2] Reynolds and Williams react to UN report

1999-03-19 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Labor Senator says Govt should act on UN report Friday 19 March, 1999 (3:40pm AEDT) North Queensland-based Labor Senator Margaret Reynolds says the Federal Government has a responsibility to act on a United Nations report which criticises its handling of native title. Senator Reynolds,

Re: [recoznet2] List of books

1999-03-19 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [recoznet2] List of books Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 9:37 AM At 11:26 PM 18/3/99, Trudy and Rod Bray wrote: Piet has asked a question about which books to read in order to gain a better understanding of Indigenous Australians. This gave

[recoznet2] Aborigines not recognised as First Australians

1999-03-19 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
http://www.foxnews.com/js_index.sml?content=/news/international/0318/i_rt_0318_2.sml Fox News Aborigines Not Recognized As First Australians 12.12 a.m. ET (513 GMT) March 18, 1999 CANBERRA — Australia's conservative government has not recognized Aborigines as the country's

[recoznet2] Amnesty International News Release

1999-03-19 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
From Heinz... AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL International Secretariat, 1 Easton Street, London WC1X 8DJ, United Kingdom News Service: 054 /99 AI Index: ASA 12/03/99 19 March 1999 Australia: government's

[recoznet2] Letters to the editor

1999-03-20 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
Does anyone know if sending the same letter to more than one paper is ethical, frowned upon or? Trudy --- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the

[recoznet2] My letter to the SMH

1999-03-20 Thread Trudy and Rod Bray
March 20, 1999 While it is a matter of deep personal regret to me that the Attorney-General, Darryl Williams, feels insulted by the UN committee's conclusions about the Native Title Amendment Act, I think his call for all Australians to feel insulted is going too far. Since we were not

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