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That’s all true, but the deal used to be no funding and lots of church
autonomy in return., including
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So is it correct to conclude that the struggle over LGBT rights explains 100%
of any change in public attitudes -- left and right-- about fun
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When I worked for DOJ in the late 80's and litigated a major Chapter (now I
think Title) 2 funding case in San Francisco, the main plaintiff's lawyer was a
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Yes, but neither bef
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Yes, but neither before, nor during, nor after, that 14-year window (1971-1985)
did the Court ev
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> I have been struck this week by how a
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I have been st
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should indeed have such confidence.
Eugene
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Thank you. It is helpful and yet I see an ultimate collision between the
dischordant rights to both be free
pulated gamesmanship, support for religious liberty is
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Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 11:47 PM
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Thank you. It is helpful and yet I see an ultimate collision between the
dischordant rights to both be free from discrimination and also to
discriminate.
I suppose what I'm looking for is what happens when a church is able to get
funding from the state for a project but then relies on free
I don’t think there’s anything necessarily inconsistent with the two positions
you describe. Religion might be entitled to special treatment in some cases,
but equal treatment in others. (Doesn’t everyone, at some level, believe
that?) Certainly the Court does. The Court has, for example,
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