Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread Jerry T Van Horn
The only place metric fails is in micro measurements where 1000's of an inch is required, Maybe but after I finally figure out I need a 8mm tap then the clerk asks what pitch [there are 3] and I have to start all over again. I can multipy by 10 But I never had problems with NC or SAE.

[Biofuel] What's all this got to do with biofuel?

2005-01-22 Thread bmolloy
Hi all, How can we allow newspapers to get away with this stuff? Surely the Washington Post should be closed down? Shouldn't we be tending to the store and not poking our noses in the gummint's business? After all, they won't touch people like us who are just interested in finding

Re: [Biofuel] Keith? Query about WVO refining and Glycerin Purifying

2005-01-22 Thread Andrew Cunningham
Do you know any place that buys high quality glycerin in the New England area? Andy On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:14:40 -0800 (PST), Phillip Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: San FranciscoThe City by the Bay. --- Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phillip, What region are

Re: [Biofuel] The Coming Wars

2005-01-22 Thread ROBSACROB
In the old days wars were fought over colonialism (World War I and II).Then they were fought over idealism (Korea and Vietnam). Now, they are fought over oil rights (Desert Storm and Iraq). No ,matter what they tell you. Sincerely, Jim Robinson ___

Re: [Biofuel] agroecological production of biofuel integratingagroforestry, p...

2005-01-22 Thread Rich3800
In a message dated 1/7/2005 7:33:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Peggy, Re: your note I (Peggy) wrote a note about his (Paul) work in petroleum-contamination remediation. I plan to scan JTF archives for the petroleum remediation information. Thank you ahead of

Reply: [Biofuel] Read Professor Cummins' work, wasGM Cotton that People Forgot

2005-01-22 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Keith, The postings interesting; especially the writings of Professor Emeritus Joe Cummins. See earlier work at: http://www.mindfully.org/GE/Plant-Pesticides-Joe-Cummins.htm Last week, I took the liberty to contact Professor Cummins to ask permission to quote his work on my JTF posting titles

Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread robert luis rabello
Unhealthy ? When everything is multipliable by 10 you would think that the Americans would be able to catch on no? I mean, moving around a decimal point isn't THAT hard a feat is it ? Some of us DO get it, Luc. We were supposed to convert to the SI system in 1976, but Congress got cold

Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements Legal Eagle wrote: Unhealthy ? When everything is multipliable by 10 you would think that the Americans would

Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread Lyle Estill
Be glad you don't have to routinely calculate the volume of tanks. American measurement is idiotic. And while I am glad you are free to use it, I wish America would get a clue. On Jan 21, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Andrew Cunningham wrote: Have you ever tried to lift one of those little dots?

Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread Andrew Lowe
Legal Eagle wrote: Unhealthy ? When everything is multipliable by 10 you would think that the Americans would be able to catch on no? I mean, moving around a decimal point isn't THAT hard a feat is it ? Some of us DO get it, Luc. We were supposed to convert to the SI system in 1976,

[Biofuel] BioWillie

2005-01-22 Thread Joanne Olafson
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6826994/ This was news to me - Willie Nelson selling biodiesel to truck stops. I heard about it this evening (Friday) on CBC Radio 1 on As It Happens (www.cbc.ca/aih) - one of my favourite programs. I looked on the website but couldn't find a link. A google search

Re: [Biofuel] The Coming Wars

2005-01-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
course it might be a coincidence that an oil field larger than the middle East deposits extends from Nam to Indonesia. I worked on navigation/positioning eqpt for floating test drill rigs in 1970. http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/FJ27Ae02.html Vietnam is the is the third-largest

Re: [Biofuel] [OT] Metric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
On Friday, January 21, 2005 2:45 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:45:41 -0800 (PST) From: Kirk McLoren To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements I think I will calibrate my spedometer in furlongs per fortnight. Ought to be impressive. :) :-) Maybe

[Biofuel] Re: [Biofuel Measuring DNA Speed of Replication Was Metric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Since we are discussing measurements, I was curious about the speed of DNA replication. Looks like we're just finding out...and only for a portion of the proceess...(and humans think we can safely GMO? Duh!) http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/sb/Aug-2004/5_dna.html The complexity of

Re: [Biofuel] The Coming Wars

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
larger than the middle East deposits extends from Nam to Indonesia. Yes, Kirk, I'm sure that's purely a coincidence. LOL! I worked on navigation/positioning eqpt for floating test drill rigs in 1970. http://atimes01.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/FJ27Ae02.html Vietnam is the is the

Re: Reply: [Biofuel] Read Professor Cummins' work, wasGM Cotton that People Forgot

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
Keith, The postings interesting; especially the writings of Professor Emeritus Joe Cummins. See earlier work at: http://www.mindfully.org/GE/Plant-Pesticides-Joe-Cummins.htm Last week, I took the liberty to contact Professor Cummins to ask permission to quote his work on my JTF posting titles

Re: [Biofuel] BioWillie

2005-01-22 Thread Anti-Fossil
Interesting article Joanne, thanks for posting. AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama *

[Biofuel] biofuel map

2005-01-22 Thread Busyditch
Clear DayThis was on the Willie Nelson article site http://biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/distributors/default.shtm ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread Hakan Falk
Any system must have its basic reference, because without, it says nothing. The metric system was based on the standard meter etc., that is kept in Paris. I guess that the English system has its standard somewhere, but do not remember, London is my best guess. Now the standards are referenced

Re: [Biofuel] [OT] Metric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread Doug Foskey
Or a Tardis it would not matter! signed Dr Who (For all the illiterati, Dr Who was an English SF TV Series, His Time Travel machine was the Tardis) On Saturday 22 January 2005 6:50, Keith Addison wrote: Maybe you could call it a tardometer. It's fashionable after all: slow food, slow

Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread Doug Foskey
There are some different standards in Metric threads. The 'normal' threads are all the same to 8mm, but 10mm Japanese has a different pitch to European. I think the larger ones may be different too, but I only use to 10mm on my motorcycle (a Guzzi Daytona for interested parties...Pity it can't

Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: Andrew Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements If memory serves me correctly, all of the US Departments of Transport, DoT, require all engineering plans/calculations

Re: [Biofuel] Keith? Query about WVO refining and Glycerin Purifying

2005-01-22 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Keith? Query about WVO refining and Glycerin Purifying Do you know any place that buys high quality glycerin in the New England area?

Re: [Biofuel] The Coming Wars

2005-01-22 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 2:48 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Coming Wars snip course it might be a coincidence that an oil field larger than the middle East deposits extends from Nam to

Re: [Biofuel] Re: [Biofuel Measuring DNA Speed of Replication WasMetric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread Legal Eagle
I just read the subject line to my wife and she said nine months, no? I'm still trying not to roll on the floor. Luc - Original Message - From: Phillip Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 3:34 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Re: [Biofuel Measuring DNA

Re: [Biofuel] The Coming Wars

2005-01-22 Thread Appal Energy
II).Then they were fought over idealism (Korea and Vietnam). Now, they are fought over oil rights (Desert Storm and Iraq). No ,matter what they tell you. Actually, the accepted phraseology, at least in the present US administration, is national security. It's much easier to pass muster

[Biofuel] Kennedy: Fascist America

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
Fri, 21 Jan 2005 Kennedy: Fascist America By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. wants to run for Attorney General of New York State. He might announce his candidacy within the next two weeks. He's the son of Robert F. Kennedy, the former Attorney General under his

[Biofuel] Fwd: We Stand for Peace Justice

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
We Stand for Peace Justice Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 We Stand Statement from ZNet From: Michael Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the start of the Iraq War ZNet posted a web page featuring what we called the We Stand Statement. The statement quickly inspired over 90,000 online signatures as well as

[Biofuel] Russia Oil Pipeline to the Pacific: Japan Bests China

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
ZNet |Japan | Russia Oil Pipeline to the Pacific: Russia Oil Pipeline to the Pacific: Japanese Bests China by Agence France Presse January 13, 2005 Russia said Friday it had ordered the construction of an oil pipeline from its huge Siberian oilfields to the Pacific Ocean opposite Japan, in

[Biofuel] Japan's Nuclear Nightmare

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
Japan's Nuclear Nightmare by Eric Johnston January 17, 2005 In late October 2004, nearly 200 people from around Japan gathered at a public hearing in Osaka to discuss the future of nuclear power. Sponsored by the Atomic Energy Commission, which is responsible to the prime

[Biofuel] Clearing the air: Eco-friendly bikes hit Bangalore roads

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
s+hit+Bangalore+roadsId=933 Clearing the air: Eco-friendly bikes hit Bangalore roads NDTV Correspondent Thursday, January 20, 2005 (Bangalore): An eco-friendly two-wheeler has arrived on Bangalore's roads. The first of its kind in the country, the eco-cosmic vehicles are very

[Biofuel] Peace Accord in Sudan: Good News for People or Oil Companies?

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
Foreign Policy In Focus | Global Affairs Commentary | FPIF Commentary Peace Accord in Sudan: Good News for People or Oil Companies? By Frida Berrigan | January 14, 2005 Editors: Emira Woods, Institute for Policy Studies (IPS) Foreign Policy In Focus www.fpif.org The new year brought a

[Biofuel] Will China choke on its car culture?

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
Will China choke on its car culture? Showcase car city reflects promise and problems Chinese take in environmentally friendly vehicles shown at the main campus of Shanghai International Automobile City. Major carmakers selling in China each have a pavilion there. The green car event was

[Biofuel] China halts megaprojects, citing environment

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
China halts megaprojects, citing environment 26 of 30 projects are power plants, many coal-fired China Photos via Reuters file China's Three Gorges Dam, seen here with its two dozen gates open to release water, was affected by a cease-work order against two auxiliary power facilities.

[Biofuel] Dead-end for natural gas, electric cars?

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
Dead-end for natural gas, electric cars? Focus on hybrids, hydrogen worries some Ric Francis / AP Ann Derren-Lewis refuels her natural-gas Honda Civic GX in Los Angeles. She dumped her SUV when she got a job 40 miles from her home and her new employer offered incentives. By Tim Molloy

[Biofuel] Smog Killer

2005-01-22 Thread Keith Addison
00.html?promoid=moreover SMALL GREEN Smog Killer A new green truck-stop service helps drivers rest-and the rest of us breathe. By Arlyn Tobias Gajilan Paulsboro, N.J.-Trucking is a dirty business, says veteran long-hauler Bill Schreiner, 59. It's not so much the driving, he explains from

[Biofuel] (no subject)

2005-01-22 Thread Kim Garth Travis
I just had to share this. Bright Blessings, Kim OSLO, Norway There appears to be somewhat of a cultural divide between Texans and Norwegians. Residents of the Scandinavian country were taken aback when they saw the First Family appear to salute Satan during the inaugural parade yesterday.

[Biofuel] 2nd batch: looks better, but still some questions

2005-01-22 Thread Gregory Petit
Hi everybody, now I used the correct amount of NaOH and my 2nd batch seems to be much better :-) The result can be found on: http://users.pandora.be/thunderbirdIII/bio/batch2.jpg On the bottom, you can see some black marks, to measure how fast the glycerol is setteling. From bottom to the

Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements

2005-01-22 Thread Andrew Cunningham
Lyle, I just wanted to state that all my comments on this thread have been in jest. I really don't think that decimal points are heavy and rarely use pencils. I am a chemical engineer and calculate tanks volumes. I use both systems equally. I would not say that American (not that Americans

Re: [Biofuel] First successful batch question

2005-01-22 Thread Norm Fillion
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:28:43 -0500, Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Todd; - Original Message - From: Todd Hershberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: [Biofuel] First successful batch question I am very excited

Re: [Biofuel] The Coming Wars

2005-01-22 Thread Legal Eagle
As usual, very cognitive and well presented. - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Coming Wars snip On top of that, how do you manage chaos when your entire policing

Re: [Biofuel] (no subject)

2005-01-22 Thread Legal Eagle
It would stand up if that were it's ONLY application however it is not. Hand Symbol Thing: 1)Just to confuse the subject even further, the hand sign with the thumb held over the middle fingers is also the Buddhist Tarjani Mudra, a hand gesture to ward off evil.

Re: [Biofuel] Kennedy: Fascist America

2005-01-22 Thread Legal Eagle
Luc - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:52 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Kennedy: Fascist America http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2005/000192.html Fri, 21 Jan 2005 Kennedy: Fascist America By

Re: [Biofuel] 2nd batch: looks better, but still some questions

2005-01-22 Thread Legal Eagle
You came to the right place to ask those questions :-) - Original Message - From: Gregory Petit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: [Biofuel] 2nd batch: looks better, but still some questions Hi everybody, now I used the

[Biofuel] Mr.Bush Keep your freedom and Democracy to Yourself

2005-01-22 Thread Legal Eagle
by Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey The international community does not want George W. Bush's Freedom and Democracy neither does it want its Hearts and Minds won over by Shock and Awe tactics, thank you very much. If George Bush was elected President of the United States of America, why does

Re: [Biofuel] 2nd batch: looks better, but still some questions

2005-01-22 Thread Appal Energy
the fuel will clarify from the top down, perhaps giving the appearance of three layers. Why would you not think the fuel is sufficient to run in a vehicle? If it washes well, put it into the tank and go. - Original Message - From: Gregory Petit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Metric measurements - My thoughts

2005-01-22 Thread Greg Harbican
I use standard and metric almost interchangeably for something's, although for others I will use one or the other almost exclusively. When dealing with wood and carpentry, I use standard almost exclusively. When doing what work I can on vehicles, I interchange. When driving, I

Re: [Biofuel] 2nd batch: looks better, but still some questions

2005-01-22 Thread Gregory Petit
Op zaterdag 22 januari 2005 17:33, schreef Appal Energy: Your top layer appears to be a shadow, not a layer. You'll also find that the fuel will clarify from the top down, perhaps giving the appearance of three layers. Indeed, now it's dark outside here in Belgium and the top layer is gone.

[Biofuel] Rumsfeld Accused of War Crimes ~Cancels Trip to Munich

2005-01-22 Thread knoton
Three Articles On This Breaking News Follow: _ [1]Rumsfeld to Bypass Munich Conference Deutche Welle, 21.01.2005 US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld will not attend the Munich Security Conference in February.

Re: [Biofuel] Keith? Query about WVO refining and Glycerin Purifying

2005-01-22 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Andrew, You may want to call the soap manufacturers assocation. I forgot their name...but they represent the soap and detergent folks, including the natural soaps. Good luck... --- Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know any place that buys high quality glycerin in the New