Re: t-and-f: M.I.A. ?

--- "Michael J. Roth" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone might want to start a missing persons report on the illustrious E. Garry Hill of TFN fame. We have not been graced by his presence much, if at all, since Sydney. 2. He was attacked and mauled by a rapid Koala in the Outback. Randy???

Re: t-and-f: M.I.A. ?

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:36:39 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: --- "Michael J. Roth" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone might want to start a missing persons report on the illustrious E. Garry Hill of TFN fame. We have not been graced by his presence much, if at all, since Sydney. 2. He was attacked

RE: Mark Lewis-Francis (was: Re: t-and-f: Embarassment)

Darrell, I think you'll find that the majority of the criticism of Mo and his mates was from within the US, not from outside. In fact, I was one of those who publicly said that I was not troubled by their antics. What I also pointed out was that the reaction to the 4x1 celebrations should be

RE: t-and-f: Embarassment

Hi All Darrell says that the US places little importance on juniors, and this attitude is also reflected in his view that Lewis-Francis was wasting his time at the WJC. The view on this side of the Atlantic is diametrically opposite. In the UK we place an enormous significance on junior

Re: t-and-f: Facts on Medhi Baala

For those who'd like to know more about Mehdi Baala: he was born in 1978 in France from a French mother and an Algerian father. He has always lived in Strasbourg where he started athletics as an under 17 when his friends ask him to be part of the biggest local club's cross country-team. 1995

Re: t-and-f: Embarassment

Justin wrote: Hi All Darrell says that the US places little importance on juniors, and this attitude is also reflected in his view that Lewis-Francis was wasting his time at the WJC. The view on this side of the Atlantic is diametrically opposite. In the UK we place an enormous

Re: Mark Lewis-Francis (was: Re: t-and-f: Embarassment)

Nonsense!!! You make a terrible assumption and so did he. Who says he will be back in 2004?! Jason Gardener was the best Brit last year, he got sick at the WC, and got hurt this year, lost to a 17 yr old phenom, who graciously gave up his spot for him. Dwain Chambers did not medal, Darren

Re: t-and-f: Olympic memories

Typo! Sorry. The G.O.A.T.

RE: t-and-f: Embarassment

--- Justin Clouder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very surprised by the contemptuous dismissal of world junior titles by certain US list members. But perhaps I should not be surprised. It's clear that those same list members consider the US to be an extraordinary and unique case as regards

t-and-f: Big Sky Entries

Entries for the Big Sky XC Championships this saturday are posted at http://www.resultzone.com Doug Lynch Lynx Timing

t-and-f: Perspective

In a message dated 10/24/00 5:26:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for L-F, no-one has commented for the obvious reason that very few of us has seen any TV pictures. When we do see it, I suspect that we will see spontaneous joy at the moment of triumph, rather than a

Re: t-and-f: Olympic memories

Darrell wrote: 1. Kevin Young 46.48! The culmination of ten years of blood, sweat, and tears. The whole race was a thing of beauty, his easy strides, and confident demeanor were fulfilling. And it was something that was never done before. Kevin was actually 46.78, but still an awesome

Re: Mark Lewis-Francis (was: Re: t-and-f: Embarassment)

In a message dated 10/24/00 10:00:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is the sort of arrogance which drives non-Americans absolutely nuts. The fastest US junior this year has run 10.18. MLF has run 10.10, 10.12 and 10.13, the last of those into a headwind. I fail to

RE: t-and-f: Olympic memories

Other Olympic air-punching, tear-inducing moments for me: Seb Coe's second 1500m win. Controversy over selection (twas ever thus!), a rising star to beat (Cram), and he won it in such style. Then there was the uncharactaristic loss of control at the end. Wonderful. Christie's stare, while

Re: t-and-f: M.I.A. ?

What could he possibly add to the analysis we've seen here of drugs, politics, bad sportsmanship, and the decline of the Olympic spirit as a result of professionalism. Oh--you mean the results! Bill Bahnfleth At 10:01 AM 10/24/2000 -0700, cbn wrote: Or #5. GH might be busy reporting the

t-and-f: Dublin City Marathon

The Irish Times Tuesday, October 24, 2000 Ian O'Riordan Jamie Lewis is set to provide the main Irish challenge in next Monday's Dublin City Marathon, where he hopes to become the first Irishman to win the event since John Treacy in 1993. The elite entries for the men's race were confirmed

t-and-f: Marl Lewis-Francis

There has been a lot of discussion on the list about Mark Lewis-Francis after his brilliant World Junior championships success. The discussion has centered on his decision to pass the chance of Olympic selection. What has not been made clear is that while he was a certainty to have been chosen to

Re: t-and-f: Embarassment

I must disagree with Conway's assertion that we have a good junior program and it is the NCAA and JUCO programs. By the time they get to be 18 years old it is way too late to really develop the sport. Some sort of widespread programs need to start before age 10 so that kids are as exposed to

Re: t-and-f: Embarassment

At 04:28 PM 10/24/00 -0400, you wrote: I must disagree with Conway's assertion that we have a good junior program and it is the NCAA and JUCO programs. By the time they get to be 18 years old it is way too late to really develop the sport. Some sort of widespread programs need to start

Re: t-and-f: Khannouchi will run 2001 London Marathon

This raises an interesting question. Does anyone know what the selection process is going to be for Edmonton. Khalid has said that he wants to run for the U.S. @ worlds. But, is London going to fit into the selection criteria. At 06:27 PM 10/23/00 -0700, you wrote: A day after winning

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

In a message dated 10/23/00 7:54:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The athletes have to pick and choose what meets they want to go to since unlike most European countries, you can't drive anywhere in the country in a few hours. Air travel or an extended road trip (1 to

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

In a message dated 10/23/00 9:52:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since Craig Masback took office, I have pressed him on the issue of grass roots development. He tends to agree with the above observation, but he has made it clear that improving the lot of the current

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

In a message dated 10/23/00 11:05:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For many, unfortunately, being picked is just a plum reward for years of playing USATF politics correctly. I'm glad you said that.

Re: t-and-f: USA at the World Junior Champs

In a message dated 10/23/00 9:36:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, now that everyone outside and inside the USA borders has had their turn at "beating a dead horse", I still say that most of you are missing the point. There is nothing on the horizon that will

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

In a message dated 10/24/00 1:05:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While politics do play a role in selection for staff for worlds, olys, world jrs, etc. the staff reallly is not *at all* to blame. everyone knew before (due to the date of the world jrs) that the US

Re: t-and-f: Embarassment

Ed's numbers do not tell the true story. Among youth sports track is still among the top, and that has never changed. The change comes post HS because of dollars, and American societal pressure to pursue perceived success in the classroom. I say perceived because many athletes succeed in

Re: t-and-f: Embarassment

In a message dated 10/24/00 8:53:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The US has a strong high school and collegiate tradition which in many ways replicates the benefits of junior international competition in Europe. Bearing this in mind, I am very surprised by the

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

I think these suggestions address the issue of "elite" high school juniors fairly well, but are such a small piece of the overall development picture that they won't accomplish much. As one who's deeply involved with the Jr athletes let me offer a few suggestions; 1) There should be 3-4

Re: t-and-f: Embarassment

In a message dated 10/24/00 12:39:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As a US list member who would rather watch the international competition in all but the sprints, favors the US qualifying system (Olys), considers the US to be just as guilty of drug use as anyone, and

Re: t-and-f: Embarassment

At 06:17 PM 10/24/00 -0400, you wrote: At 04:28 PM 10/24/00 -0400, you wrote: I must disagree with Conway's assertion that we have a good junior program and it is the NCAA and JUCO programs. By the time they get to be 18 years old it is way too late to really develop the sport. Some sort of

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

Netters, i have been following this with some interest. I have one question for you all? Are you saying (those that are being critical) that these kids did not compete well because they didn't get medals or because they didn't run well? The one walker sent Robyn Stevens, finshed 16th

Re: t-and-f: Embarassment

There's an obvious reason why college coaches can't be relied upon to develop a grass roots program. University assistant coaches probably have an average salary of $10,000 a year for a full-time job. You can barely live in Guatamala on that, much less the US. Most I've seen either have a second

Re: Mark Lewis-Francis (was: Re: t-and-f: Embarassment)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the men's side we had 2 Americans in both finals of the 100 and 200. I do not ever remember the US sweepine the sprints, and only on a few special occassions did we take 2 medals. The U.S. swept all three medals in '84 in the 200 as I remember. -- Wayne T.

Re: t-and-f: Embarassment

I still do not understand some of you guys and I probably won't. As a foreigner who benefited because of overseas recruiting, it is hard for me to understand how some list members can squarely put the blame of recent sub par performances (medal count) of the US national team on foreign athletes

RE: t-and-f: Paralympians off fast in Sydney (fwd)

-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:47:45 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Paralympians off fast in Sydney greetings from Sidney Dwight and I are here to do the Paralympics track and field for wemedia.com...Please pass

RE: t-and-f: Paralympians off fast in Sydney (fwd)

Sorry, Larry and Dwight, we've already had our fill of mawkish up-close and personals. malmo greetings from Sidney Dwight and I are here to do the Paralympics track and field for wemedia.com...Please pass this message along if you will.we are on from 10 am to 1.30 pm and 5.pm to 9pm

Re: Mark Lewis-Francis (was: Re: t-and-f: Embarassment)

Wayne writes: On the men's side we had 2 Americans in both finals of the 100 and 200. I do not ever remember the US sweepine the sprints, and only on a few special occassions did we take 2 medals. The U.S. swept all three medals in '84 in the 200 as I remember. The US male sprinters