It just goes to show that there are stupid people everywhere in the world!
No one ethnicity, religion, group, etc. has a captive grip on it. It is
everywhere
Gerald
There is also a subset of drivers who will not cross the yellow line for
any reason. I suspect that some of these people would blithely run over
a person, dog, or tree just to make sure they don't edge into the wrong
lane when there are no other cars in sight. Most of my road miles are
in
--- Mike Prizy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I'm invisible, I'm not a target.
That theory didn't work too well for Frodo in Part 1...
Dan
John Lunn wrote:
Mike,
Help me here.
A runner should find a route farther away from auto trafficand
further away from country roads where
the
Frodo assumed too much protection from the Ring. Keeping with analogies, Frodo used
the Ring as
bright clothing. Therefore, as I stated in my post:
I think bright clothing gives
some runners a false sense of security.
Dan Kaplan wrote:
--- Mike Prizy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I'm
Back in the day, back before running was reinvented in Boulder, there was a war in the
streets as you tried to log your miles. One winter I was asked why my running outfit
was so ugly. The colors of this outfit could not be blamed on my color blindness. I
dyed my long johns a deep pink, my shorts
Back in the day, back before running was reinvented in Boulder, there was
a war in the
streets as you tried to log your miles. One winter I was asked why my
running outfit
was so ugly. The colors of this outfit could not be blamed on my color
blindness. I
dyed my long johns a deep pink, my
But why be dead right? If special clothing has to be worn with the intent of being
seen by drivers,
then maybe a route farther away from auto traffic needs to be found. I think bright
clothing gives
some runners a false sense of security.
Having grown up in the South Suburbs of Chicago, I've
This sounds so crazy I think I must be making it up, but did I read
somewhere once (urban myth?) that there's some kind of inherent targeting
mechanism in the brain that actually leads drivers in certain cases to
swerve towards people (not just runners) on the side of the road? Not with
any
Yes, Garry, I think so. I recall it was about drivers hitting parked
vehicles that had their lights on! It is because drivers have descended
from primal hunters.
I also recommend the prey run in camouflage.
td
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From: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: track list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Mike Prizy wrote:
But why be dead right? If special clothing has to be worn with the intent
of being seen by drivers,
then maybe a route farther away from auto traffic needs to be found. I
think bright clothing gives
some runners a false sense of security.
Unfortunately such routes are getting
Mike,
Help me here.
A runner should find a route farther away from auto trafficand further away from
country roads where
the senior set wants to make you dead right? And you have preferred to run at night
with dark clothes
on so that you can be an invisible moving target?
I take it that this
From: Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 14:59:58 -0600
To: Track Listserve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: t-and-f: yelling at runners (was: favortie sport...)
Our angry responses to driver aggression can sometimes get us into
I stay away from country roads now,,I'd rather be verbally attacked, than
attacked by coyotes..or dogsI got attacked by coyotes last February..got
me a couple times and took 16 rabies shotsso, it's comforting to run
where the traffic is...at least if it happens again..someone could help
I've been playing in traffic now for nigh on 60,000 or so miles in the last 20 years.
One of my one finger
salutes a few years ago got the guy I was running with that day charged with some
highway traffic offence.
He had the misfortune of running in the outside lane. We had to assume the
From: Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:52:04 -0600
To: track list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: t-and-f: yelling at runners (was: favortie sport...)
Back in the early 70's I was running out in the country with a friend. We
--- ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This sounds so crazy I think I must be making it up, but did I read
somewhere once (urban myth?) that there's some kind of inherent
targeting mechanism in the brain that actually leads drivers in
certain cases to swerve towards people (not just runners) on
I never knew how good I had it here in the Bay Area until reading this
thread! Been running since the early 70s, and can count on one hand (okay,
maybe two) the amount of times I've been even heckled at. The worst incident
I can recall is a group of kids puddle-splashing me with their car.
If I'm invisible, I'm not a target.
John Lunn wrote:
Mike,
Help me here.
A runner should find a route farther away from auto trafficand further away from
country roads where
the senior set wants to make you dead right? And you have preferred to run at
night with dark clothes
on
so
on 12/31/02 3:33 PM, ghill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This sounds so crazy I think I must be making it up, but did I read
somewhere once (urban myth?) that there's some kind of inherent targeting
mechanism in the brain that actually leads drivers in certain cases to
swerve towards people
On a more sober note, my daughter grew up as a runner and regularly endured
attacks, such as the occasional beer bottle, firecracker or cherry bomb.
Just two years ago as an adult, she was attacked my a man while running in a
park in Los Angeles. Despite being an experienced runner, she was
Does anybody else ever feel like they're being pulled to the side of a
bridge when they're running across one?
I don't know if it's my paranoia/fear of heights, latent suicidal tendencies
or some other effect. The only other person I ever brought it up with said
he felt the same way.
Jorma
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Wait Gar, one more ...
My mom is scared of heights and she says she feels like she is being pulled to the
side when on a
bridge.
Twenty-something years ago, I student taught drivers ed. in college (sometimes on
country roads:) I
had a professor who harped all the time reminding us student
From: nad wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: nad wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 20:17:11 +
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: t-and-f: My favortie sport to pick on
But why is it
that most people hate running so much? it seems like the only people that
run, or
Have almost got in some fights because of the verbal and even physical abuse of
the smokers who gather out in front of the 3 high schools in polite Brantford,
Ontario, Canada that I run by periodically. How I react will usually depend on how
hard I am working. It definitely isn't a regional thing.
It happened to me all the time when I lived in Connecticut and it happens to
me in Folsom, CA as well. I will say that in 1993 when I lived in Saratoga,
CA and ran there and Palo Alto and Los Altos I never once got yelled at. I
suspect that's the exception, not the rule. I've heard from people
A regional thing? GH you must have doen all of your training at night.
What Dan has described is word for word the dialogue that I hear many times a month
and have tolerated for over 20 years now. It is worse now than ever and worse in
suburbs than in the seediest parts of innercities.
The
A regional thing? GH you must have done all of your training at night.
What Dan has described is word for word the dialogue that I hear many times a month
and have tolerated for over 20 years now. It is worse now than ever and worse in
suburbs than in the seediest parts of innercities.
The
I used to yell at a runner when I was a child in the 1950s. Everyday this
guy who held his hands funny like a squirrel used run by our street in
Milford, Massachusetts the town next to Hopkinton where the marathon starts.
We yelled, short-shorts at him and taunted, Who wears short shorts-you wear
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