t-and-f: Olympic Trials - a better method?

Shawn Devereaux, in an oft-repeated theme of this thread, wrote: If you can't get it up for 1 meet every 4 years stay at home, you don't deserve to go. If you can't handle the pressure of do-or-die in the Trials how are you going to handle the pressure of do-or-die in the Olympics? I haven't

t-and-f: Bislett Vault--Hartwig?

With no information available except the result, it's interesting that Hartwig didn't rebound impressively from his USOT no-height, although clearing the same height (18'4 1/4") as Maxim Tarasov, who perhaps has succeeded him as Olympic favorite. Galfione, though, seems solidly back (19'1/4")

t-and-f: Vaulting's 15-foot Era

(Posted for Gérard Dumas. This completes his cycle of imperial-measure barriers, from 11' to 19'. If you missed any earlier postings, let me know and I'll send copies off-list. RR) THE FIFTEEN-FOOT ERA The fifteen-foot barrier (4.57,2m) remains the most prestigious

t-and-f: Stockholm PV Results

My apologies to those who don't share my interest in the women's vault, for posting a single-event result. For those who do, the Stockholm entries give us the first look at a competition that includes almost all of the probable candidates for medals at the Olympic Games. Vaulters included all of

t-and-f: Re: Wildcards

Macdezal wrote: After thinking about this all day I say give them both the wild card option if they can prove thier 200m fitness level before the games with a sub 20 performance. I see no reason not to have 2 great athletes competing in the games especially if they are already at the games in

t-and-f: Monaco Meeting

I'm not finding any operable links at the Monaco Golden League website http://www.herculis.com/. Does anyone have an alternative site for starting lists, etc.?

t-and-f: Canadian Olympic Selections

Men: 100m Donovan Bailey 100m Nicolas Macrozonaris 100m Bruny Surin 200m Pierre Browne 800m Zachary Whitmarsh 1500m Kevin Sullivan 5000m Sean Kaley 5000m Jeff Schiebler 10,000m Kaley, Schibler 110m hurdles Adrian Woodley 3000m steeple Joel Bourgeois high jump Kwaku

Re: t-and-f: Bailey shuts it down early

Joe Dawson sent, "I'm still working on things. My first 50 metres was as good as I've ever run," Bailey said from his Brussels hotel room. "At about 60 metres I just decided to shut it off, satisfied with what I had done." What happens to any guaranteed appearance money if an athlete admits he

t-and-f: Brussels Long Jump

Results, courtesy of IAAF Stats Section: 1 Kotova TatyanaRUS 6.96 +0.2 12 2 Daute-Drechsler Heike GER 6.86 +0.6 10 3 May Fiona ITA 6.82 +0.4 9 4 Montalvo Niurka ESP 6.76 +0.4 8 5 Jones Marion USA 6.59 -0.2 7 6 Felix Aurélie

t-and-f: Gateshead?

No results have been posted for the Gateshead GPII meet. Was the meet cancelled because all entrants decided they had nothing more to prove to themselves in their carefully scheduled programs of readying for Sydney? Or were there no results worthy of noting?

t-and-f: CBC Internet Coverage of Games

When I wrote to CBC Sports Online, to ask about plans for publishing results on their internet site (http://cbc.ca/sports), I had this reply: A web site (cbc.ca/olympics) will soon be "live" incorporating in-depth up to the minute comprehensive Olympic coverage of the 2000 Sydney Summer Games.

Re: t-and-f: WAVA

Ed Koch wrote, I seem to recall a rule of thumb told me about masters competition some time ago that the average athlete who stays in shape can expect to lose 1% on their performance every year past age thirty. Perhaps, the lose of performance is slower for elite athletes or it starts later

Re: t-and-f: IAAF list

Everett Murdock wrote, The IAAF recently posted the top 100 performances in the marathon for this year. It can be found at: http://www.iaaf.org/Results/index.asp?Filename=/Results/lists/2000/outdoor/ G/index.html In looking over the list, I can find only one American, Rod Dehaven (near the

Re: t-and-f: New t-and-f list archive

Geoff Hutchinson wrote, I have set up a new list archive at www.mail-archive.com. The current list archive will continue to exist, but will stop archiving new messages around Oct. 1. The URL to bookmark is: http://www.mail-archive.com/t-and-f%40lists.uoregon.edu/ Geoff: I'm sure that many

Re: t-and-f: Larry Rawson -- what an ego!!!!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran into Larry Rawson recently and boy does he have a high impression of himself!!! Be interested in hearing others' thought on all this. _ My thought on this, "Track Ever," is that at least the

t-and-f: Women's Vault Startlist

It may help to put today's qualifications (midnight PDT) into perspective, to list the seasonal bests for the vaulters who are entered. The meet entry "B" standard was 4.20; the "A" standard, 4.30. As noted, all vaulters who clear 4.40m or the 12 best qualify for the finals. RR Thanks to the

t-and-f: High Jump Finals

Uri Goldbourt wrote (Be quiet, Carol!), slightly edited: "Anybody noticed that (blank blank blank) won the high jump and places 2 to 6th were all awarded for clearing the same height and decided on false tries?" I'm not sure what time NBC is showing this. CBC had live coverage. The reason for

t-and-f: The stay-at-homes

A continuing interest for me is that of the athlete who makes the qualifying standard for the Olympics, but is not entered in the meet because his or her national federation sets a more stringent team selection standard. I'm not sure whether this is due to a federation's parsimony, pride, or

t-and-f: Men's PV Startlist

(Thanks to IAAF Statistics Section--http://www.iaaf.org/Results/index.asp) Starters for tonight's PV Qualifying Round and seasonal bests: Startlist - POLE VAULT Men - Qualification - 5.75Q,12q Group A - Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 18:30 Order Athlete

t-and-f: U.S. men's 4x100 antics, Class Clowns, etc.

I'm reminded of two earlier examples of public disfavor at victory stand behavior, although emphatically of a very different kind. In 1968, Tommie Smith and John Carlos were denied relay participation and sent home for their eloquent, silent, dignified statement, during the 200m medal

Re: t-and-f: NBC posts lowest Olympic ratings ever

Tony Craddock quoted Joe Flint, Wall Street Journal: Final numbers from Nielsen Media Research indicate that on average, 21.5 million viewers watched the 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. prime-time coverage of the games. That was down 35% from the 33.1 million who watched the 1996 games from Atlanta. Of

t-and-f: IAAF Coverage of World Juniors?

I'm still looking for entry lists for events that begin in Santiago 48 hours from now. Has anyone had any better luck with the IAAF site iaaf.org/wjc00/results/ than I have? Usually, I expect that for IAAF sponsored events, I'll find that their website shows the timetable, with links from events

Re: t-and-f: No of total Performances

Conway wrote: First I'd like to say excellent work by Peter .. As always .. His site is extremely informative .. Amen to that! Regards, Roger

t-and-f: Junior Champs Pole Vault

I've added seasonal best performances to the startlist for this afternoon women's vault. They identify, for me, an interesting question: Why is it that USA doesn't have an entrant over 4.00m (13' 1 1/2")? When I checked the world list, it would appear that Donoghue and Rosenberger are, indeed

t-and-f: Men's WJC PV Startlist

Entries for tomorrow's men's vault at the World Junior Championships. I've added seasonal bests, where I could find them. Notably absent: USA's Eric Eshbach, with a seasonal best of 5.50. Anyone know why he's not competing? RR Startlist - POLE VAULT Men - Qualification Group A - Saturday,

Re: t-and-f: Embarrassment no longer?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ("Embarassment"), If you think the Olympics were bad, check out the performance of the US team at the World Jrs in Santiago, www.nationalscholastic.org - thus far, 10/21, the BEST US effort has been a couple 4th place finishes. NO medals!! The U.S.(Rocky Danners)

t-and-f: USA at the World Junior Champs

Mats Åkerlind has led a mini thread that began with his comment, Well into the World Juniors in Santiago, the US showing is so far not very impressive. It's not a normal US showing and even here in Sweden, we can to some part understand the reasons - time of year, location, obligations to

t-and-f: Women's National Vault Records

Some general information about the pace of record changes: During the 2000 outdoor season, I recorded 103 changes in the national records of 55 countries. The first time I posted this list, in 1997, it included 37 countries and the average of the NR heights was 3.90m (12'9 1/2"). The average NR

Re: t-and-f: YES ALL ELITE ARE ON DRUGS

I've just received five copies of a message sent under this subject line. I'll reprint it below, just in case anyone was fortunate enough to miss it. It is not clear to me why subscribers to this list ([EMAIL PROTECTED] edu) would receive mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It is even less

Re: t-and-f: Just Say Yes!

Somebody using the alias GHTFNed wrote, It has come to our attention that interest in your list is fading mightily because of the recent subject matter. Indeed, we hear that people are actually turning off, tuning out and dropping out. Allow us to burgeon your subscribership ranks by signing

t-and-f: Re: TF Zatopek in critical condition

I'm sorry to be late in adding to several posts, today, on this topic. Although I know almost nothing of distance running, I do know some little bit of distance running history: hence, my well-intended remarks: A typical post read, Emil Zatopek, winner of four Olympic track gold medals who set

t-and-f: Olympic trivia--twice.

I think I remember reading, somewhere, that Olympic champions in the earliest games of the modern era were awarded silver medals, not gold. I haven't been able to confirm this in sources I've checked recently. Can anyone set the matter straight? In the first of Stacy Dragila's Sydney vaults

t-and-f: Will everybody go to jail?

On October 15th, Michalis Nikitaridis sent a message outlining his problems with the Athens organizing committee for the 2004 Olympic Games. Basically, he had been told by the committee's attorney that the committee claimed exclusive right to use or license use of a variety of related terms,

t-and-f: Re: Ryan Sullivan posts

Today, within a two-minute period, "Ryan Sullivan" sent three posts to this address, each with different subject lines, all with the same message. I don't know what his scam might be, but I resent his sending it under a mailing address of "seb_coe" and find it deeply suspicious that he addressed

Re: t-and-f: Kansas State All-comers Indoor Results Dec 8

Yesterday, a list member sent this note: Results from this past weekends All-comers meet at Manhattan can be found at www.k-statesports.com/track/stats/2001/IN-2000AllComers.html I appreciate the notification, but I wonder about this tendency to post URLs for access to results, instead of

t-and-f: Twelve Days of Christmas

I think I first saw this when someone posted it on this list several years ago. I wish I knew who, so I could give due credit. To those who have seen it before, I apologize for the duplication. For those who haven't--enjoy. And to all, a happy, happy holiday season! (If things don't line up quite

Re: t-and-f: Owens' OSU LJ record revisited and select results from the OSUInvitational

Earlier today, Bob Ramsak wrote, Hi all, Just got back from Ohio State's French Fieldhouse, where a display in the lobby lists Joe Greene's wind-aided 27-7+ from the 1989 NCAAs as the Buckeye outdoor LJ record !I don't understand... That leaves me wondering when wind measurements became a

t-and-f: TFN Olympic Issue

I wouldn't want to spoil the fun a few members are having with an apparently endless kicking around of Track and Field News for their annual rankings, but let me insert one quick accolade for TFN's coverage of the Olympics in their December issue. My first, and continuing, reaction was to hope

t-and-f: Vault Summit Results?

No one seems to have responded to yesterday's request from Shawn for results from the Reno Vault Summit. If there's anyone who was there except those who can't be pulled away from the dice tables because they're still winning, or isn't out on the street panhandling for money to get home because

t-and-f: National Indoor Records

As reported earlier by Michalis Nikitaridis, Russia's Svetlana Feofanova vaulted 4.58m (15' 1/4") today in Karlsruhe, bettering Nicole Rieger-Humbert's European Indoor Record of 4.56m and regaining the Russian national record from Yelena Isinbayeva. Women's National Indoor

t-and-f: Inching Up

I've just been looking at an indoor pole vault record progression and some of the data raise two questions for me that may be of general interest: In what year was the hypocrisy of amateur/professional distinction in track and field officially abandoned? In the "shamateur" days, before shoe and

t-and-f: Women's National Indoor PV Records

With six national records bettered in this indoor season (and Stacy Dragila's new world record at the Millrose Games), let me update the national records list. I have included the one instance of a record being equaled by a second athlete, but not second performances by the same athlete:

t-and-f: Bubka

Article courtesy of IAAF http://www.iaaf.org/news/ and Reuters: Bubka says farewell in front of 5,000 fans 4 February 2001 - Donetsk, Ukraine - Sergey Bubka, the world's greatest pole vaulter, closed the final chapter of his record-breaking career on Sunday at a farewell meeting in his home

t-and-f: a new vault technique?

Garry wrote, Maybe others are doing this, or Tye Harvey has done it before and I didn't notice, but Mr. Harvey did something that shocked (well, surprised, at least) everybody I was with at Millrose last Friday. He only used one hand on the pole during his approach. He simply held the pole

t-and-f: sliding approach? no way!

Off-list, someone who will remain nameless wrote, At 10:24 AM 2/8/01 -0800, you wrote: ... developed a Teflon butt plug that made it easier to run with the pole Ouch! How could that make it easier? Oh, for the pole... ;-) I can remember a time in Victoria when, if you received an

t-and-f: PVWAtG *** NEWS FLASH *** Dragila WR(?) @ Pocatello

Posted from Doug Lang on the VaultCanada mailing list. Does anyone have an answer to his question about what was non-conforming about the Pocatello runway when she vaulted 4.57m (15') and 4.61m there last year, and whether it still is? In a note, Mark Butler described the runway as "irregular."

t-and-f: Drug Test Procedures

Could someone give us a brief run-down on how complicated on-site "doping control" provisions are? On one hand, I can visualize a fully staffed on-site medical lab. On the other hand, I can picture the need for only a couple of test tubes, to be shipped off to a lab with the certification of an

t-and-f: National Depth--Sprints

Some subscribers will recognize that this is the third year I've posted these summaries of national representation in the top 100 of each event. My original purpose was only curiosity in trying to identify "centers of coaching excellence" that might be reflected in disproportionate national

t-and-f: Will this race be valid for record ratification?

Just a little different perspective: "Will this race be valid for record ratification?" Does it matter? It's clear, from correspondence on this thread, that "validity" hinges on a narrow interpretation of what may be minimally within the rules. In the end, a record, if such ensues, will stand

Re: t-and-f: RE: Metrically-challenged Americans

John Dye wrote (re Stacy's new world indoor vault record), I am at the meet and it was stated by Walt Murphy and other officials as 15-5.5 and 4.71. Later, they changed it to 4.70 or 15-5. "4.70 *or* 15-5" you say? Okay, which? If the bar was measured as 4.70m, it would, indeed, convert to

t-and-f: Pocatello: The rest of the story

Final results of the women's vault, from Kebba Tolbert's post: (And, sorry, Kebba, I don't intend to shoot the messenger. Your weekend reports of results are very, very much appreciated.) Finals VISA WOMEN'S POLE VAULT 1. Stacy Dragila, Reebok 4.70m (15-05); 2. Alicia Warlick, SMTC 4.21m

t-and-f: National Depth--Shot/Discus

The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top 100 rankings for 2000 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've truncated the lists to three

t-and-f: National Depth--Middle Distance

The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top 100 rankings for 2000 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've truncated the lists to three

t-and-f: National Depth--Steeplechase

The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top 100 rankings for 2000 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've truncated the lists to three

Re: t-and-f: National Depth--Steeplechase

When I posted national depth summaries on the steeplechase, with Kenya having 18 runners and USA 15 in the top 100, I noted: " . . .it doesn't seem to me that the United States should rank so closely. That becomes apparent in the highest-ranked U.S. representative (Tony Cosey) standing only at

Re: t-and-f: National Depth--Steeplechase

After I posted the steeplechase charts, Mike Scott wrote to me with some observations on the data and my comments. I thought they should be shared with the list and Mike said that I might do so: I agree that Kenya will dominate the top 15-20 performances, while the US's performances are

t-and-f: National Depth--Hurdles

The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top 100 rankings for 2000 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've truncated the lists to three

Re: t-and-f: German suspensions

Ed Parrot wrote, I saw an AP article today about the IAAF invoking the contamination rule for athletes who competed against Dieter Baumann at the German Championships. All runners who competed against him have been declared ineligible, although they haven't detremined for how long. This may be

t-and-f: National Depth--Distance

The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top 100 rankings for 2000 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've truncated the lists to three

t-and-f: National Depth--Horizontal Jumps, Long Throws, etc.

These data are ready to post, but I think I'll save them for a day or two. It seems a shame to interrupt important threads like "standing vs. sitting to watch track meets" and "coke vs. water." Incidentally, "coke vs. water" made the rounds of the joke posts a month ago. Who ever would have

t-and-f: National Depth--Horizontal Jumps

The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top 100 rankings for 2000 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've truncated the lists to three

t-and-f: National Depth--Racewalks

The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 rankings for 2000 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've truncated the lists to three

t-and-f: National Depth--Hammer/Javelin

The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 rankings for 2000 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've truncated the lists to three

t-and-f: World Indoor Startlists?

Yesterday, someone (Ed Gordon, I think) complained that, with the world indoor championships only three days away, this list was preoccupied with other topics. My question is a simple one: Is there really going to be a championship in Lisbon this week, and how would we know who are the athletes

t-and-f: National Depth--Marathon

The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 rankings for 2000 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've truncated the lists to three

t-and-f: National Depth--Multi-event

The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 rankings for 2000 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've truncated the lists to three

t-and-f: WIC Startlists

The IAAF website for Lisbon has managed to get their startlists up today for the competitions that start tomorrow. They can be found at http://www.iaaf.org/wic01/ on the Results link. Cheers!

t-and-f: World Indoor Champs PV Shocker

Stacy has been so good for the last year that it's surprising for her to lose, but the real shocker is for Pavla to win. Any vaulter can have an off day. (Some "off day"--Stacy's 4.51 would have won the last WIC at Maebashi in 1999!) On the other hand, Hamckov entered the competition with a SB of

t-and-f: Men's Vault Results

No surprises here. LoJo was the world leader and vaulting very consistently. Tye would have been a surprise second six months ago, but also has been very consistent during the indoor season. I'll again paste on the results of the most two world indoor championships for comparison. 2001 Lisbon,

t-and-f: Proposed rule changes--IAAF

On another mailing list, it was suggested that a change from three jumps at a height to two might have little consequence. Its author wrote, " . . . my take on it would be it has more to do with it being the final do-or-die attempt than anything to do with The Magic Number 3! If it is more of a

RE: t-and-f: Statistics of posts and posters

Mcewen, Brian T wrote, ~ The top 10 posters this time (roughly March 8-March 15) were: 1. "Eamonn Condon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (22) 2. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (20) 3. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (17) 4. Ed Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] (16)

t-and-f: Re: Alicia Warlick--4.50m

Mike Takaha brings to my attention Alicia Warlick's 4.50m (14'9") at the Texas Southern Relays on March 24th. This is a full 4" higher than the best 2001 outdoor mark I had seen a/o the previous weekend, Tatiana Grigorieva's 4.30m at Perth on March 4th. It's nice to see Alicia off to a fine

Re: t-and-f: Women's Indoor Vault NRs

Earlier today, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There isn't (and basically wasn't ever) any confusion over Dragila's record heights. All were metrically measured, and all were as you state them. QED. gh This was in response to my statement, that Due to problems in converting between measurement

t-and-f: Women's Indoor Vault NRs

When I posted women's national indoor vault records yesterday, I invited additions and corrections. First off the mark was Andy Mhlbach, who reported that Doris Auer had improved her Austrian record, given as 4.32m. Her new mark, achieved at Glasgow on 18 March, is 4.44m. As I filed her new

t-and-f: Gator bite out of crime...

Paul Merca wrote, From the Seattle Times, 4/5/01 Two Florida pole vaulters might finish their Gator careers with track records they'd rather not have. Michael Hissam, a senior, and Brian DaCunha, a sophomore, probably wished they were sprinters when they were caught around 3 a.m. yesterday

t-and-f: Women's National Vault Records

I had hoped to update the national outdoor list before the assault on records could resume in the current season. Too late; there already have been nearly a dozen new marks set. Many thanks to Brett Addison, Heinrich Hubbeling, Mirko Jalava, Doug Lang, and Graham Thomas for their help in updating

t-and-f: U.S. Olympic Vault Dominance

Recently, there was a brief thread on the long gap in U.S. Olympic gold between Bob Seagren's win at Mexico City (1968) and that of Nick Hysong in Sydney (2000). That discussion managed to neglect the massive over-all domination of the event by U.S. vaulters. I've just finished formatting a new

Re: t-and-f: U.S. Olympic Vault Dominance

After I wrote, yesterday, that the 32-year gap in U.S. gold medals obscured the over-all dominance of American vaulters in the Olympics, Dave Carey wrote to me, asking about their scoring during the "drought" years: How about some statistics showing how deep the drought was. The old

Re: t-and-f: RE:Malmo post

Garry wrote, What really bothers me is that I'm having trouble believing that the rather tame original post and the few bits of thread that were allowed to follow it were enough to set off alarm bells in the halls of Duckademia. Rather, it seems obvious to me that some list member(s) must have

Re: t-and-f: Return to the Real World

When I saw his subject heading, I thought that Bob Hersh was signaling a return of the t-and-f list to the real world of an unmonitored status that wouldn't require every message being approved by a monitor/supervisor before it could be processed by the University of Oregon server. As it turned

Re: t-and-f: Alphonse Juilland

John Bale wrote today, Does anyone know how I can obtain copies of track publications of the late Alphonse Juilland of Stanford University? I've read through his entertaining and informative debate with himself on the foundations of track and field

Re: t-and-f: New rules to challenge athletes at adidas Oregon

One possible response that I don't think has been advanced yet would be for athletes in the events affected to boycott the meet. That should considerably reduce the time to contest the event, as well as letting the IAAF know what the athletes and coaches think of the experiment. Cheers, Roger

Re: t-and-f: Webb- CONTAINS RESULTS

I think we should all applaud Ben Hall's courtesy in withholding the results to the body of the message, in the interest of not ruining the viewing for subscribers who might be getting it by TV delay. (Not a problem in western Canada, where the Fox channel was showing European NFL. How most

Re: t-and-f: EAA congratulates the Dutch

Randy wrote, It would seem that all of the greatest Dutch athletes are women. Who would be considered the greatest MALE Dutch athlete? ...just wondering... Easy one: Dutch Warmerdam. Cheers

Re: t-and-f: s'bin fun

my final analysis of the NCAA posted shortly at www.trackanfieldnews.com and as i exit Eugene, i once again depart from the list. gh (now a lurker) Cheers! Drop in again, sometime. Maybe for the U.S. nationals and the world championships? The list could use your background info. And bring

t-and-f: Recent women's vault progression

Stacey Dragila's recent domination of the women's vault and her world record bettering 4.81m yesterday at Palo Alto threaten to erase memory of other recent champions. This summary of record improvements and ties since 1995 might provide some perspective on their accomplishments. 4.12*

Re: t-and-f: Recent women's vault progression

Yesterday, I provided some comparisons of Stacy Dragila's contributions to the world vault record progression with those of other leading women. A reply asked, stacey is erasing many of the men's marks...where does she stand now in relation to bragg, richards, etc Others might be

t-and-f: WPV--The Enduring Champions

Last week, Georgia Tsiliggiri improved her own Greek national vault record by eleven centimeters, to 4.36m. This especially interested me, in that it continued a long, exciting rivalry with Thalia Iakovidou, with each now having broken the Greek outdoor record nine times. It also raised the

t-and-f: New WPV National Records

This, by way of Peter Larsson. I appreciate the opportunity it gives to correct my error in the last posting of national records, when I credited Belin with only 3.06m. RR At the European Cup First League Group A match in Vaasa, FIN today (23/6), Kirsten Belin (SWE) finished second in a new NR

t-and-f: World Champs Qualifiers--Men's PV

With the world championships just six weeks away, here's a look at the athletes who presently have met the entry standards, bearing in mind that a country is limited to three entries, and that in order to enter more than one, all must have accomplished the A standard since 1 January 2000. (Maxim

t-and-f: World Camps Qualifiers--Women's PV

With the world championships just six weeks away, here's a look at the athletes who presently have met the entry standards, bearing in mind that a country is limited to three entries, and that in order to enter more than one, all must have accomplished the A standard since 1 January 2000. (As the

Re: t-and-f: Re: WC qualifyinh

Dave Carey wrote, The World Championships need straight entry standards PERIOD, and perhaps auto entries for depending champions. Get rid of the national representation stuff. Make it a TRUE world championship. If that means 12 Kenyans in the Steeple final, so be it. Amen, Dave, amen. As I

t-and-f: One tough lady

Vault results from yesterday's Vardinoyannia meet in Rethymno: 1.DRAGILA Stacy (USA) 4.72 2.FEOFANOVA Svetlana (RUS) 4.52 3.SAUER Mary (USA) 4.52 4.BELYAKOVA Yelena (RUS) 4.42

Re: t-and-f: One tough lady

Earlier today, Kebba responded to my post with, When did Bruny moan about having to compete at the nationals? This is from his post at the IAAF website: In the end, I didn't run at the Canadian Championships. Of course I got some bad press. Some of the reporters thought that I was faking my

t-and-f: 1500m Qualifiers--Try # 2

When I posted this yesterday, I began with, I offer this list with no little trepidation. Since it has nothing to do with the pole vault, I'm way over my head before I start. As it turned out, my fears were well founded. Somehow, in transferring the 2000 outdoor data from the original list to the

RE: t-and-f: Re: Liars Club

The latest of this series of holier than thou posts on this non-topic, by non-athletes included: Come on, Jack Lemmon's 4:10 mile is a perfect illustration to The Older I get, the Faster I was rule. The entire thread, after the first post that sought information, reminds me of Joseph Welch's

t-and-f: Results from Nice

Nikaia Grand Prix Nice, 09-Jul-2001 POLE VAULT - MEN 1 Hartwig Jeff USA 5.82 2 Ecker Danny GER 5.82 3 Tarasov Maksim RUS 5.75 4 Hysong Nick USA 5.75 5 Markov Dmitriy

Re: t-and-f: Marion Jones' winning streak approaching record

Out of curiosity is there information on other sprinting streaks - most men's 100's, 200's 400's and most women's 200's and 400's ??? Or for that matter all of the disciplines track AND field ??? Conway Hill Edwin Moses' 107 consecutive 400m hurdles victories, over a period of nine years, is an

Re: t-and-f: What is to come of this?

Macdezal wrote, The (Independent International Review) commission faulted USATF for not following several international and U.S. rules, including: -- Following the IAAF's requirement that an athlete be suspended as soon as there is evidence of a doping violation. USATF declined to enforce the

Re: t-and-f: WAVA is now WMA

In a message dated Wed, 11 Jul 2001 4:43:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TrackCEO, quoted by GHTFNedit, writes: But this time, in Brisbane, WAVA's VP for Non-Stadia Ron Bell made a passionate presentation for the change, claiming that $900,000 in potential sponsorship money has been lost due to

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