[Talk-it] Limiti e potenzialità per creazione servizio di tiles OSM

2020-05-20 Thread Alessandro Sarretta
Buongiorno a tutti, ho ricevuto una richiesta, da parte di un'associazione che usa già Leaflet (https://leafletjs.com/) per mostrare mappe di OSM embedded sul loro sito, di un consiglio per crearsi un loro servizio di mappe e tiles e comprendere quali sono le necessità e i limiti delle

[Talk-it] Richiesta su capacità/

2020-05-20 Thread Alessandro Sarretta
Buongiorno a tutti, ho ricevuto una richiesta, da parte di un'associazione che usa già Leaflet (https://leafletjs.com/) per mostrare mappe di OSM embedded sul loro sito, di un consiglio per crearsi un loro servizio di mappe e tiles e comprendere quali sono le necessità e i limiti delle

Re: [Talk-it-trentino] Soddisfazione personale

2020-05-20 Thread Alessandro Vitali
Il giorno mer 20 mag 2020 alle ore 09:36 Paolo Ianes ha scritto: > Potresti pensare di installare sui tablet anche un sw (tipo Vespucci ma mi > pare che anche Osmand abbia un plugin per modificare la mappa) con il quale > ciascun autista possa aggiustare le imprecisioni che trova sulla mappa. >

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 189, Issue 24

2020-05-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
May 20, 2020, 23:57 by talk@openstreetmap.org: > I don't believe you can migrate to StackExchange - we would have to > start over if we went that route. > Or copy especially useful content manually? Even in case of conflicting licences authors of given answer would be able to reuse them. > You

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Améliorer la description des bibliothèques et centres de documentation

2020-05-20 Thread Christian Rogel
J’annonçais un tableau pour la description des bibliothèques et des centre de doc et archives, mais un petit bout de l’URL de la page de discussion du wiki OSM n’a pas voulu se montrer. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR_talk:Tag:amenity%3Dlibrary > Le 20 mai 2020 à 23:40, Christian Rogel

Re: [Talk-it] Village / Town

2020-05-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. May 2020, at 23:41, totera wrote: > > centro abitato --> city/village/town > comune --> titolo di città o no allora sarebbe da aggiungere un tag all’oggetto boundary=administrative admin_level=8 per indicare città =yes? Ciao Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 189, Issue 24

2020-05-20 Thread Tom Hughes via talk
ix? It would be nice, but not sure what are chances of that. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:<http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20200520/1710766f/attachment-0001.htm> -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Ma

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Lester Caine
On 20/05/2020 20:32, Frederik Ramm wrote: Not copying past answers, at least the last two years or so, would mean we'd have to write all these answers again because the questions will inevitably be asked. I'm with you on that ... I've seen far too much material simply ditched because it been

Re: [Talk-it] Village / Town

2020-05-20 Thread totera
Fra00 wrote > Io personalmente darei peso > anche al titolo di città concesso in forza del regio decreto-legge n. 651 > del 7 giugno 1943 (poi ripreso dalla legge n. 142 dell'8 giugno 1990 e dal > decreto legislativo n. 267 del 18 agosto 2000), poiché in quel caso > qualcuno > di competente e

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Améliorer la description des bibliothèques et centres de documentation

2020-05-20 Thread Christian Rogel
> Le 19 mai 2020 à 23:54, Yves P. a écrit : > >> Je vais y mettre le tableau (3ème version, cette fois, en langage wiki). > Ne t'arrache pas les cheveux à saisir ça en langage wiki. > Avec l'éditeur visuel, il suffit de faire un copier/coller à partir de mon > tableau (ou d'un tableur) Mes

Re: [Talk-it] Village / Town

2020-05-20 Thread totera
Fintocubano wrote > Poi, sinceramente, quando la mappa mi comunica che San Martino in Pensilis > (5000 ab.) e' un ''village'' come Montelongo (350 ab.) a pochi kilometri, > e' > un'informazione che ritengo un po' fuorviante. Mi ripeto: abbiamo quattro livelli. Una disomogeneità al loro interno è

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 189, Issue 24

2020-05-20 Thread Allan Mustard
would be nice, but not sure what > are chances of that. > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20200520/1710766f/attachment-0001.htm> > > -

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Andrew Hain
We could also look at the software Codidact and Topanswers have been writing. -- Andrew From: Mateusz Konieczny via talk Sent: 20 May 2020 14:48 To: Tobias Wrede Cc: Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying May 20, 2020, 09:28

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread James
Has the code base diverged from OSQA? If we were to submit changes would we need to provide source code as the original code is GPL3? On Wed., May 20, 2020, 4:25 p.m. Tobias Wrede, wrote: > Am 20.05.2020 um 21:32 schrieb Frederik Ramm: > > > > We've taken great care to write our replies in a

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Tobias Wrede
Am 20.05.2020 um 21:32 schrieb Frederik Ramm: We've taken great care to write our replies in a generic fashion where possible, with the aim of collecting knowledge that others can profit from (instead of asking the same question over and over again). Not copying past answers, at least the last

[Diversity-talk] Diversity Research

2020-05-20 Thread Maggie Cawley
Hi All! I am working on collecting previous studies and surveys on diversity and barriers to contribution in OSM. Please take a look and add any that might be missing. Thanks! https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Diversity/Research#Formal_Resources Maggie

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 5/20/20 17:37, Tobias Wrede wrote: > I wouldn't worry too much about migrating past material to the new site. > Of course that would be a plus but not doing so shouldn't stop us from > migrating to something new and lasting soon. We've taken great care to write our replies in a generic

Re: [Talk-br] Nova proposta de classificação viária - Explanação

2020-05-20 Thread Guilherme Braga Alves
Oi santamariense, obrigado pela sua resposta e pelas informações apresentadas. Penso que sua resposta resolve parte significativa das minhas objeções em relação à proposta. Por outro lado, eu também gostaria que ampliássemos o nível de consciência acerca dos resultados da proposta antes de haver

Re: [talk-cz] iD: Když mapovat, tak důkladně ;)

2020-05-20 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 19. 05. 20 v 11:05 majkaz napsal(a): Já chápu, že to iD uživatelům v podstatě podsouvá a jde v současnosti stylem maximálního mapování místo toho, aby se zadaly jen základní dostačující informace a zmapovaly odchylky od normálu. V konečném důsledku se to ale tímhle způsobem rychle dostane

Re: [talk-cz] jak mapovat chodníky

2020-05-20 Thread Jozef Matejička
Děkuji Majko, vždy jsem používal kerb dle https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Kerb_key_example_map.jpg a né kerb:right a kerb:left. To mě nenapadlo. Někdy doplním wiki. Ani jsem to nepoužíval při zpracování dat. Zamyslím se a asi začnu používat. Některé routovací aplikace jako můj oblíbený

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Import de points d'eau incendie en Saône-et-Loire (osm: message 16 of 20)

2020-05-20 Thread Nicolas Bétheuil
oui y a 0 doc, la peinture est pas sèche encore c'est tout neuf. à ma connaissance comme ça dépends de chaque jeu de données un script sale fera très bien le travail. vous pouvez voir ce que j'ai fait pour le premier jeu de donner sur

Re: [talk-cz] jak mapovat chodníky

2020-05-20 Thread majkaz
Jestli to dobře chápu, tak je to tak jak na přiloženém obrázku, takže:     Na cestu s id 2 dám bod co nejpřesněji tam, kde je skutečný přechod. Pak bude i záležet na směru, kterým je nakreslená. To určí, co je na ní :left a :right   a značky: highway=crossing

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Import de points d'eau incendie en Saône-et-Loire (osm: message 16 of 20)

2020-05-20 Thread Antonin Delpeuch (lists)
On 20/05/2020 19:10, Nicolas Bétheuil wrote: > sinon y a od2osm ;-p Ça a l'air sympa, mais c'est pareil, je ne vois pas de documentation des étapes nécessaires pour contribuer un jeu de données :) > > @antonin quelques compétences en développement ? Oui mais j'ai pas beaucoup d'espace libre

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Import de points d'eau incendie en Saône-et-Loire (osm: message 16 of 20)

2020-05-20 Thread Nicolas Bétheuil
sinon y a od2osm ;-p @antonin quelques compétences en développement ? sont-ce des nodes ? si oui c'est cool. pour une première version : transformer le jeu de données en geojson osmifié (avec les tags qui vont bien dans les properties des feature) et un simple curl sur od2osm et hop les

Re: [Talk-it] Village / Town

2020-05-20 Thread Fra00
A quanto mi sembra di aver capito dagli interventi di totera, sia qui sia sulla discussione da lui citata, si propende per utilizzare come criteri la presenza di scuola secondarie di II grado, strutture ospedaliere e in generale uffici pubblici con competenza sovracomunale, non considerando invece

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Tobias Wrede
Am 20.05.2020 um 16:04 schrieb Lester Caine: ... offers a hope that there is potential to pump existing material across? I wouldn't worry too much about migrating past material to the new site. Of course that would be a plus but not doing so shouldn't stop us from migrating to something new

[Talk-br] Nova proposta de classificação viária - Explanação

2020-05-20 Thread santamariense
Como o voto de um colega traz a tona uma interpretação mal-entendida sobre o que está sendo votado, e já explanando para outros colegas que não acompanharam por completo as discussões até o presente momento, comento aqui uma argumentação de voto. Antes de mais nada obrigado por se manifestar,

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Simon Poole
Am 20.05.2020 um 15:45 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via talk: > Well, if nobody will volunteer to fix it then we will need to select > between > stack exchange migration and simply killing the QA site. We could simply pay for the migration (and if necessary for some support going forward), the

Re: [talk-cz] jak mapovat chodníky

2020-05-20 Thread Jozef Matejička
Mám križovatku tvaru T. Way s id 1 jede do leva. Way s id 2 jede do prava. Way s id 3 jede dolů. sidewalk=both je na všech ways (1,2,3) Přechod zebra křižuje jenom way s id 2 (do prava). Obrubník na přechodu je znížen jenom na jedné (horní) straně. Nejsou přechody křižující id 1 a 2. Jak to

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Import de points d'eau incendie en Saône-et-Loire (osm: message 16 of 20)

2020-05-20 Thread Antonin Delpeuch (lists)
Merci beaucoup ! La configuration de la source pour la Suisse est séduisante, avec son format complètement déclaratif - ça a l'air propre. Je vais attendre que le processus soit plus documenté pour utiliser Osmose (ou même rendu plus simple si un système générique pour tous les SDIS français est

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Import de points d'eau incendie en Saône-et-Loire

2020-05-20 Thread François Lacombe
Salut à tous, J'ai vu que la doc anglaise avait été mentionnée en début de discussion, avez-vous vu la version française avec la correspondance avec le modèle de l'Afigeo ? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:emergency%3Dfire_hydrant#Correspondance_avec_le_mod.C3.A8le_PEI_de_l.27Afigeo Il

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Lester Caine
On 20/05/2020 08:28, Tobias Wrede wrote: The site is based on OSQA, a software which has not been maintained in some time. Some application errors have surface in the past but had to be ignored since no fixes are coming from OSQA any more. Until now we could live with that. They were

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Tom Hughes via talk
On 20/05/2020 14:48, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Migrate to Stack Exchange? Even assuming that this company will agree it has plenty of potential issues. They have a public process for proposing new sites: https://area51.stackexchange.com/faq So long as enough people are interested

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] "Les bons termes" [était Re: Import de points d'eau incendie en Saône-et-Loire]

2020-05-20 Thread François Lacombe
Bonjour Vincent, Parfaitement d'accord avec cette distinction. Elle rappelle des discussions que nous avons régulièrement en présentant OSM à des entreprises ou des pros. Je compléterais en ajoutant que certains langages métier ont, comme tous langages, leurs biais, leur existence en silo et ne

Re: [Talk-it] Village / Town

2020-05-20 Thread Fintocubano
totera wrote > A mio parere mentre alcune delle tue modifiche sono accettabili, altre non > lo sono: centri in cui la scuola più "alta" è la scuola media, non ci sono > ospedali, non ci sono uffici pubblici con competenze sovracomunali non > andrebbero classificati come town, e mi sembra che

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Import de points d'eau incendie en Saône-et-Loire (osm: message 16 of 20)

2020-05-20 Thread Frédéric Rodrigo
La doc est là: https://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/tree/master/doc Mais le chapitre que tu veux n'est pas encore écrit. Mais il y a des précédents https://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/issues/413 https://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/issues/543 Il y a déjà eu une analyse pour faire

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
May 20, 2020, 09:28 by l...@tobias-wrede.de: > Can we involve any of the OSM organizations to find, maybe pay, someone? > The question is about the plan. Life support for this specific platform? It sounds like an endless pit that can consume plenty of resources, but maybe I am too

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
May 20, 2020, 15:25 by talk@openstreetmap.org: > Personally my preference would be to close help.osm.org and move to a > proper SO site via the Area 51 process which should be no problem for a > community of our size. > > I imagine that will be unpopular with a subset of our users however. > >

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Suspicion d'usage massif d'une source non autorisée

2020-05-20 Thread François Lacombe
Salut à tous, J'ai eu récemment à faire à un contributeur de bonne foi qui a indiqué se servir de StreetView sans avoir connaissance des conditions restrictives qui ne le permettent pas. Évidemment peu de monde a conscience de ces restrictions. Dans un fonctionnement un peu automatique, ses

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Import de points d'eau incendie en Saône-et-Loire (osm: message 16 of 20)

2020-05-20 Thread Antonin Delpeuch (lists)
Merci Jean-Yvon, tu confirmes mes doutes. Comment faut-il s'y prendre pour envoyer le jeu de données dans Osmose ? Je ne trouve pas de documentation à ce sujet. Je vais aussi regarder du côté du greffon todolist. Antonin On 19/05/2020 22:35, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com wrote: > Tu vas

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Tom Hughes via talk
Where on earth do you get the idea that they're using the same software? They're not. In fact OSQA and all the other similar open source projects are attempts to recreate the Stack Overflow experience and they're basically all dead or, if still on life support, then very poor clones.

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Stack Overflow is using the same type as software, not the same software. May 20, 2020, 14:52 by andreas.vi...@gmail.com: > Can't we update as they do? > Stack Exchange is running private proprietary software, that is a separate platform. And yes, you can pay them to run your own instance. At

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Andreas Vilén
Stack overflow seems to use the same software and is highly active. This seems to be updated? Can't we update as they do? https://stackoverflow.com/questions /Andreas On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 9:34 AM Tobias Wrede wrote: > Hi, > > we have several channels in OSM to facilitate discussions and

Re: [talk-cz] jak mapovat chodníky

2020-05-20 Thread Jan Dudík
Tady bych to bral logicky. - chodník oddělen pouze obrubníkem - lze použít sidewalk=strana. Přechod je pak bod na silnici (správně by se mělo i rozlišovat, zda je to přechod (zebra) nebo místo pro přecházení či jen místo k překonání komuikace (snížený obrubník bez obostranných hmatových prvků) -

Re: [Talk-it] Import civici Milano - preview

2020-05-20 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Visto che l'audit di Milano non ha riscosso molto successo (ettecredo... 52000 indirizzi da caricare nel browser) sto generando audit suddivisi per Municipi. Qui [1] trovate il municipio 5: Potete dare un'occhiata in generale ("browse on a map") oppure iniziare a validare le modifiche ("validate

Re: [talk-cz] jak mapovat chodníky

2020-05-20 Thread majkaz
Kvůli přechodům je to zbytečné.   Jak chodník, tak přechod pokud jsou jako sidewalk=left|right|both jsou vlastnost silnice, takže ten přechod je automaticky propojuje.     Naopak, mapování samostatně si vyžaduje místy "drbání pravou rukou za levým uchem". Protože je třeba udělat přiblížení k

Re: [Talk-it] Village / Town

2020-05-20 Thread Fra00
Le stesse linee guida affermano che "In sparsely populated regions, many settlements tagged place=city are less populous than in regions with high population density." Inoltre, tutti i capoluoghi di provincia hanno dei servizi garantiti che li rendono tutti più o meno allo stesso livello

Re: [talk-cz] jak mapovat chodníky

2020-05-20 Thread Jozef Matejička
Rád bych se zeptal, jak mapujete přechody, když používáte sidewalk? Já kvůli přechodům preferuji sidewalk=separate na silnici a pak highway=footway jako zvlášt element. Děkuji! ___ talk-cz

Re: [talk-cz] mapovani prirodnich boulderu

2020-05-20 Thread majkaz
Cesty u boulderů se budou blbě v OSM mapovat vzhledem k jejich směru, takže zmapovat můžeš reálně jen jejich začátek. Osobně považuji jejich jednotlivé mapování relacemi za overkill, jen tím (a to ještě jen v něčem) zduplikuješ databázi cest bez nějaké přidané informace - speciálně u toho, jak

Re: [Talk-it] Village / Town

2020-05-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. May 2020, at 09:24, Fra00 wrote: > > ma probabilmente per il caso dell'Italia può > essere opportuno usare "city" per i capoluoghi provinciali indipendentemente > dalla popolazione. per me no, ricordo però che in tanti hanno espresso questa idea tempo fa. Penso

Re: [Talk-it-trentino] Soddisfazione personale

2020-05-20 Thread Paolo Ianes
Bravissimo Alessandro! Bravo soprattutto a coinvolgere un paio di colleghi che stanno iniziando a mantenere aggiornata la mappa dopo che tu hai fatto la massima parte del lavoro. Proprio in questo sta la parte migliore di OSM: se ognuno di noi aggiornasse con cura i luoghi che quotidianamente

[OSM-talk] our Q site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

2020-05-20 Thread Tobias Wrede
Hi, we have several channels in OSM to facilitate discussions and support. First touch point for new users is often help.openstreetmap.org. Questions relating to mapping in general, tagging, editors, development, OSM based applications are asked there and get answered in most cases. The

Re: [Talk-it] Village / Town

2020-05-20 Thread Fra00
Si potrebbe anche pensare di taggare i capoluoghi di provincia come "city" a priori, dato che le linee guida dicono che "city" identifichi "the largest settlement or settlements within a territory, including national, state and provincial capitals, and other major conurbations." Ora, /provincial/

Re: [Talk-it] Village / Town

2020-05-20 Thread Fra00
Essendo Rieti un capoluogo di provincia, come ce ne sono altri, taggato come town è ovvio che nessun altro centro con questo tag possa essere veramente al suo "livello". Per quanto riguarda Montereale, ripeto: mi sembra ci siano servizi (supermercati, negozi vari, scuole fino alla secondaria di I

[OSM-talk-fr] "Les bons termes" [était Re: Import de points d'eau incendie en Saône-et-Loire]

2020-05-20 Thread Vincent Bergeot
Bonjour, Le 19/05/2020 à 22:16, Yves P. a écrit : Préalable : utiliser les bons termes :) Les "professionnels" parlent de PEI (point d'eau incendie), qui sont ; * des poteaux (le commun des mortels appel ça des bornes, toi des piliers par anglicisme ?, parfois même des bouches o

Re: [Talk-it] Relazioni con elementi eterogenei

2020-05-20 Thread Volker Schmidt
In OSM ci sono ex-ferrovie, ma non c'è un metodo concordato. Sono di interesse culturale (archeologia industriale) e spesso anche turistica. Non sono route nel senso tradizionale. Proporrei utilizzare site, ma non ho mai avuto tempo per formulare una proposta. Ma rimuovere elementi da relazioni

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Import de points d'eau incendie en Saône-et-Loire

2020-05-20 Thread Jérôme Seigneuret
Je ne sais pas si on peut adjoindre dans alias dans ID via Transifex. Cela permettrait d'avoir des terminologies différentes pour les mêmes couple de clés/ valeurs en résultat... Le mer. 20 mai 2020 à 06:38, Antonin Delpeuch (lists) < li...@antonin.delpeuch.eu> a écrit : > On 19/05/2020 23:37,