RE: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
David Miller wrote: Does Chris or anybody else in the world think highly of him? I really wonder about these things. Daniel must be getting very lonely. In many ways, I pity him. Daniel wrote: Why not ask Brother Chris, Miller? I am not holding my breath expecting you to contact him. Chris is on this list. My comments were an invitation for him to comment about his perspective concerning you. Thus far, I have not observed him defending you. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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In a message dated 5/3/2004 12:40:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel wrote: Why not ask Brother Chris, Miller? I am not holding my breath expecting you to contact him. Personally, I have decided to not argue with Daniel's theology since he is not a part of this list at this time. Doesn't seem fair. John Smithson
Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
In a message dated 5/1/2004 6:46:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: Do cats EVER worry about what others think? The man has done his homework -- and a good post it is. John
Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
In a message dated 5/1/2004 6:46:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That fearsome punishment allows them (to their way of thinking) that anything short of being that inhumane allows them enough latitude to go to extreme measures almost as bad in order to persuade somebody not to follow a course that leads to the lake of fire. Does that make sense? IOWit is a logic that says that if the ultimate penalty is going to be a severity of 10, it is acceptable to use preventative measures up to (and including) a severity of 9 to prevent the 10 from happening. The problem with your reasoning, here, is that I have yet to meet one of these foul mouthed creatures who could actually count to 9. JD
Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
David Miller wrote: :-) If you think about it, in some ways, Daniel has afforded us some humor and entertainment, a relief from some of our own tensions over other issues. --- David, you have gone off your rocker. This person is the devil's desciple. Terry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
RE: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
David, It seems that Daniel, and those like him, show the danger of men trying to keep the Law apart from the Holy Spirit. My husband last night was marveling that such men think that their scriptural authority as men is license for them to bludgeon womenquite unlike Jesus. Isnt it wonderful how the Holy Spirit leads us into obedience to the Lord through quite another avenuethat of mutual submission, other-centeredness and love? On the psychology of it: such men are described well in M. Scott Pecks book, The People of the Lie. (Im going to have to buy a new copy, as it seems Ive loaned mine out to who knows?) It is an amazing analysis of the diagnosis of evil. There is no cure for evilnot even Christian compassion and understanding. Do you really want to pretend that there is? There is a cure for sin where it is sought, but evil people never seek after that. Pecks conclusion is that the only way to deal with evil is with force. I agree. Meanwhile, until the men in charge of this list decide to protect the women here, we must endure being vilely insulted by a mere pimple. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:TruthTalk- Another way you might look at it is as a psychologist. Why does Daniel act this way? Is he seeking attention? When Daniel was here before, he was not noticed very much. He seemed to listen more than he talked. Now that he has embraced Torah and become a man of the law, he is much more outspoken and attacks others not so much with the law, but with insults. Is there a connection between his doctrine and his vile attitude? These are interesting questions to explore. As a clinician and believer in the Lord, I would hope that your compassion for Daniel as a human being would help you to be concerned about him and wonder how to help him. Does anybody these days even take him seriously? Does Chris or anybody else in the world think highly of him? I really wonder about these things. Daniel must be getting very lonely. In many ways, I pity him.
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In a message dated 5/1/2004 4:21:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel is new this time around, so I afford him some patience. But, of course, he is not new at all. "This time around " is just an excuse. Paul was not :longsuffering: as you apply the concept in regard to the imoral young man who was sleeping with his mother. Jesus would not wait ten seconds with this guy -- not ten seconds. His language is a perfect picture of his heart -- and on other occasions, even you have said so. I say get rid of the punk and with that, I rest my case and will begin to continue in Izzy's most resent suggestion. John
RE: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
By the way, David, do you remember asking me once if I would be a moderator on TT? The reason I did not want to do that is that I do not believe that women should be put in the position of having to assert authority over men. It goes against our nature. It is only when men fail to use their proper authority that women are sometimes forced into the role, abhorrent as that is. I think the men on TT are like spiritual big brothers to the women here. I think I should not have been put in the role of defending the women on this list, but at some point it had to be done, or TT is not worth my company. When sweet little Laura started barking back at Elsman like a little mouse standing up to a monster, that was all it took for me. J I respectfully inquire as to your opinion. Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 6:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit David, It seems that Daniel, and those like him, show the danger of men trying to keep the Law apart from the Holy Spirit. My husband last night was marveling that such men think that their scriptural authority as men is license for them to bludgeon womenquite unlike Jesus. Isnt it wonderful how the Holy Spirit leads us into obedience to the Lord through quite another avenuethat of mutual submission, other-centeredness and love? On the psychology of it: such men are described well in M. Scott Pecks book, The People of the Lie. (Im going to have to buy a new copy, as it seems Ive loaned mine out to who knows?) It is an amazing analysis of the diagnosis of evil. There is no cure for evilnot even Christian compassion and understanding. Do you really want to pretend that there is? There is a cure for sin where it is sought, but evil people never seek after that. Pecks conclusion is that the only way to deal with evil is with force. I agree. Meanwhile, until the men in charge of this list decide to protect the women here, we must endure being vilely insulted by a mere pimple. Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:TruthTalk- Another way you might look at it is as a psychologist. Why does Daniel act this way? Is he seeking attention? When Daniel was here before, he was not noticed very much. He seemed to listen more than he talked. Now that he has embraced Torah and become a man of the law, he is much more outspoken and attacks others not so much with the law, but with insults. Is there a connection between his doctrine and his vile attitude? These are interesting questions to explore. As a clinician and believer in the Lord, I would hope that your compassion for Daniel as a human being would help you to be concerned about him and wonder how to help him. Does anybody these days even take him seriously? Does Chris or anybody else in the world think highly of him? I really wonder about these things. Daniel must be getting very lonely. In many ways, I pity him.
Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
Izzy: There's never a cop around when you need one. I concur with your assessment. Lance - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 01, 2004 08:37 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit David, It seems that Daniel, and those like him, show the danger of men trying to keep the Law apart from the Holy Spirit. My husband last night was marveling that such men think that their scriptural authority as men is license for them to bludgeon womenquite unlike Jesus. Isnt it wonderful how the Holy Spirit leads us into obedience to the Lord through quite another avenuethat of mutual submission, other-centeredness and love? On the psychology of it: such men are described well in M. Scott Pecks book, The People of the Lie. (Im going to have to buy a new copy, as it seems Ive loaned mine out to who knows?) It is an amazing analysis of the diagnosis of evil. There is no cure for evilnot even Christian compassion and understanding. Do you really want to pretend that there is? There is a cure for sin where it is sought, but evil people never seek after that. Pecks conclusion is that the only way to deal with evil is with force. I agree. Meanwhile, until the men in charge of this list decide to protect the women here, we must endure being vilely insulted by a mere pimple. Izzy -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:TruthTalk- Another way you might look at it is as a psychologist. Why does Daniel act this way? Is he seeking attention? When Daniel was here before, he was not noticed very much. He seemed to listen more than he talked. Now that he has embraced Torah and become a man of the law, he is much more outspoken and attacks others not so much with the law, but with insults. Is there a connection between his doctrine and his vile attitude? These are interesting questions to explore. As a clinician and believer in the Lord, I would hope that your compassion for Daniel as a human being would help you to be concerned about him and wonder how to help him. Does anybody these days even take him seriously? Does Chris or anybody else in the world think highly of him? I really wonder about these things. Daniel must be getting very lonely. In many ways, I pity him.
RE: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
Izzy wrote: I think the men on TT are like spiritual big brothers to the women here. I think I should not have been put in the role of defending the women on this list, but at some point it had to be done, or TT is not worth my company. When sweet little Laura started barking back at Elsman like a little mouse standing up to a monster, that was all it took for me. I respectfully inquire as to your opinion. I like seeing you and the other women speak up. When I consider the issue of teaching and authority, I think of Jesus and his apostles. Jesus is the head, right? Jesus taught the apostles, but did he keep them under his shadow and protect them from everyone else while he did ALL THE TEACHING? Did he tell his apostles, until I leave, you are not allowed to teach, but when I leave, then you can teach. Did Jesus use the apostles as only aids and helps to his teaching ministry? No, those under his authority were much more than that. Jesus sent out his apostles to preach and teach before him, when they were not all that well trained at all, I might add. If Jesus sent them forth to minister BEFORE HE LEFT, in submission to him, how much more should we have our wives and daughters being put forth into ministry and speaking while we are still around to direct and help them in it. A man's greatest disciple is his wife, and that is why I would love to meet Annika one day and see what kind of man Daniel really is. If I thought Daniel was a serious threat to any of you, I hope you know that I would not tolerate him on the list for one minute. I am encouraged and glad to see how strong you women are around someone like him. You know who you are and he poses little threat to any of you. What a wonderful thing to behold. Christ in you, the hope of glory. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
David Miller wrote: David Miller wrote: If you think about it, in some ways, Daniel has afforded us some humor and entertainment, a relief from some of our own tensions over other issues. Terry wrote: David, you have gone off your rocker. This person is the devil's disciple. This is why I like having elders like you around, Terry. Maybe I am dealing with this too lightly. What do you think about the Scripture that says overseers ought to be able to exhort and convince the gainsayers BY SOUND DOCTRINE? The passage goes on to say, "for there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers... whose mouths must be stopped... wherefore rebuke them sharply" (Titus 1:9-13). Do we take time to rebuke and correct, or do we just kick them out? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. --- My advice, based on what I know from studying the Word is, deliver him to Satan. He should have been stoned when he was a youth. The Pagan Wolf is a gentleman compared to this clown. The door is always open if he sees fit to repent, but I do not think we will see that happen unless God strikes him with a terminal illness. Terry
RE: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
Miller said: Does Chris or anybody else in the world think highly of him? I really wonder about these things. Daniel must be getting very lonely. In many ways, I pity him. Daniel responds: Why not ask Brother Chris, Miller? I am not holding my breath expecting you to contact him. Shabbatting on this Shabbat Shalom, Daniel --- www.TorahandSpirit.com _ TheFreeSite.com: Home of the Web's best freebies. http://www.thefreesite.com -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
John said: But, of course, he is not new at all. This time around is just an excuse. Paul was not :longsuffering: as you apply the concept in regard to the imoral young man who was sleeping with his mother. Jesus would not wait ten seconds with this guy -- not ten seconds. His language is a perfect picture of his heart -- and on other occasions, even you have said so. I say get rid of the punk and with that, I rest my case and will begin to continue in Izzy's most resent suggestion. Daniel responds: And this is coming from a grandpa who makes childish remarks like wishing i did not produce children??? I mean, I'm 25 and you guys come crashing down on me -- but when a grey haired freak like John makes a sophmoric remark, why no one even peeps a word. Hypocrites the lot of you! Johnny boy -- no one in their right mind would ever take you seriously. You need a diaper change -- your shit (dung that violates Yah's word) is seeping out down your legs. In YahShua and burning with His Love, Daniel John Lee -- www.TorahandSpirit.com _ TheFreeSite.com: Home of the Web's best freebies. http://www.thefreesite.com -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
RE: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
Whore -- Your attempt at false humility does not work. You make not be the moderator but you sure do act like it with all your huffing and puffing. Yes, Perry is right -- I have much golden Truth to share with this forum -- but you will see none of the gold until the dung of female jezebels cease their feminist tyraid on his forum. Shabbatting on this Shabbat Shalom, Daniel John Lee www.TorahandSpirit.com . . . the site where the gold is purified and the eyes of the blind begin to see. [TM] _ TheFreeSite.com: Home of the Web's best freebies. http://www.thefreesite.com -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
Terry said: My advice, based on what I know from studying the Word is, deliver him to Satan. He should have been stoned when he was a youth. The Pagan Wolf is a gentleman compared to this clown. The door is always open if he sees fit to repent, but I do not think we will see that happen unless God strikes him with a terminal illness. Terry Daniel responds: A curse unwarranted will not fall upon the head of the righteous. I have had many people curse me, pray spells and hexes on me, and oppose me in my years of preaching on the streets and college campuses. NOT ONE OF THEM HAS EVER COME TO PASS. NO, NOT A ONE. Terry, from a guy who simply states wrong when given a detailed article on Romans 7 -- I don't know why any sane person would ever take your thoughts seriously. However, the very terminal illness you think ought to be dealt to me will fall upon your own head if YHVH sees fit. You wanna risk that, Terry?? You better get on your face and do some serious repentence -- you're headed into some very dangerous waters. You don't just oppose me -- you oppose YHVB and the very Word He places above His own Name. Shabbatting on this Shabbat Shalom, Daniel John Lee --- www.TorahandSpirit.com _ TheFreeSite.com: Home of the Web's best freebies. http://www.thefreesite.com -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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In a message dated 5/1/2004 2:10:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Johnny boy -- no one in their right mind would ever take you seriously. You need a diaper change -- your shit (dung that violates Yah's word) is seeping out down your legs. Yes. I see it now. There is hope for this guy. Let's see what we've got here. A kid who probably did not complete public school, who "confuse, " words such as shit, masterbate, whore, with that which is called fruit of the spirit, teaches his children to pray by locking them in a closet (their only prayer is this: Lord tell Daddy we are hungry and are afraid of the dark -- so his strategy is profoundly effective -- I mean, they do learn to pray.) ; after reading "Danny boy" decides to retaliate with "Johnny boy" ; and when confronted with real debate (i.e. Jonathon's posts of the recent past, or, I dare say, my comments about cultural commands) is simply over his head and, feeling completely overpowered by effective and amorous opposition, responds with construction site lingo that puts him in good company with a vast world of reprobates and mindless pagans. Back at you JD
Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
David Miller wrote: I think the rule applies to Daniel, and I have said such several times. I have not changed my position on that. Perry has been away, but he is moderator and may do what he thinks is best. Maybe he has already added Daniel to the kill list. Maybe he is trying to figure out how to do that, since in five years, we have only had to ban one person. DAVEH: REALLY?!?!?! I thought Brother Glenn left voluntarily.. :-) I can skip over the vile rhetoric for a little while, but if it is too much for you, maybe Perry will drop the hammer on him before he destroys the list. DAVEH: Is it really possible for one person to destroy a list? Seems to me that it would only be destroyed if TTers let his posts affect them to the point they (TTers) leave. If TTers are bothered by what he says, simply don't read or respond to any of his posts. Izzy seems to be able to endure. DAVEH: Do cats EVER worry about what others think? Thank the Lord for that. :-) If you think about it, in some ways, Daniel has afforded us some humor and entertainment, a relief from some of our own tensions over other issues. Another way you might look at it is as a psychologist. Why does Daniel act this way? DAVEH: IMO, for the same reason some of the street preachers act as they do. Is he seeking attention? When Daniel was here before, he was not noticed very much. DAVEH: Perhaps he's learned how to command attention since his last TT visit. He seemed to listen more than he talked. Now that he has embraced Torah and become a man of the law, he is much more outspoken and attacks others not so much with the law, but with insults. DAVEH: Andhow does that differ from some of the street preachers who wave underwear? Is there a connection between his doctrine and his vile attitude? DAVEH: IMO, it is rooted in traditional Protestant beliefs related to their doctrinal belief of hell. Basically, it boils down to the thinking that "If you don't believe what I believe, you are going to be tossed into the lake of fire." That fearsome punishment allows them (to their way of thinking) that anything short of being that inhumane allows them enough latitude to go to extreme measures almost as bad in order to persuade somebody not to follow a course that leads to the lake of fire. Does that make sense? IOWit is a logic that says that if the ultimate penalty is going to be a severity of 10, it is acceptable to use preventative measures up to (and including) a severity of 9 to prevent the 10 from happening. These are interesting questions to explore. As a clinician and believer in the Lord, I would hope that your compassion for Daniel as a human being would help you to be concerned about him and wonder how to help him. Does anybody these days even take him seriously? Does Chris or anybody else in the world think highly of him? I really wonder about these things. Daniel must be getting very lonely. In many ways, I pity him. DAVEH: I suspect such thinking will only cause him to despise you/us more, though I understand your empathy/compassion toward him. Note that Dean had a problem with the rule on TruthTalk, and we actually suspended the rule just for him for awhile. Do you remember that DaveH? DAVEH: Yes, of course. Though if I remember correctly, he did nothing after given free reign. Given unlimited liberty, he was just as sweet as one of Izzy's kittens! Basically, he was more talk than action. When the time came for open season on me he simply failed to do what he had been telling us you were preventing him from doing. H.I think the human mind often times magnifies problems much more than what reality allows. DaveH was the one on the receiving end of Dean's attacks, much like Judy and Izzy are now. Everyone seemed to agree to suspend the rule for him. Eventually Dean left the list, but not after perhaps seeing that the problem was not the rule being enforced, but something else. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida. -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain Five email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF and MOTORCYCLE.
Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
I consider this an inappropriate response to the problem at hand. Christ was not "longsuffering" at the temple. The kind of filth put out by Daniel to Izzy is never to be tolerated by other Christians. Why even have rules, David, if you have no intention of applying them? You have a cancer growing in this group. If nothing is done, if there is no responsible leadership and pastoring here, it will destroy this group JUST AS IT HAS OTHER GROUPS. Take it to the bank. If you want a group that is vibrant and strong, take out the trash. Maybe if izzy the whor jezebel would stop violating I Timothy 2 she wouldn't get so much rebuke poured out on her. You and john are nothing but hypocrites. When you turned your ear from Torah and the law -- you turned your ear from Jesus the Messiah -- and now you are filled with only devilish lusts. YahVah rebuke you, whore! in typical idiot female fashion, you did not even respond to my post Tell me, sinner john, do you also "try" not to commit adultery? Do you "try" not to beat your wife? Do you "try" to not masturbate? Do you "try" to obey Jesus John the more than tolerant In a message dated 4/30/2004 9:36:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John S. wrote: It should be a simple thing to eliminate this loser from the list. Take strength from the Word of God, John. :-) Gal 5:22, But the fruit of the Spirit is ... longsuffering But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses, In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings; By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned, By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left, By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true; As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed; As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things. (2 Corinthians 6:4-10 KJV) That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness. (Colossians 1:10-11 KJV) Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another ... (Colossians 3:12-16 KJV) Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
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John, Dont let the turkeys get you down. Daniel is a flyspeck and doesnt bother me in the teeniest. Folks who dont deserve any respect are totally impotent; they just dont know it. (Although I must admit I dont mind causing him to gnash his teeth a bit, while spitting venom.) And every curse a person sends upon someone unjustly simply falls back upon their own head. (Poor Daniel is going to suffer a horrible fate, Im afraid, when all those curses he sends out come home to roost.) Id hate to have you upset on my behalf, dear friend. My sweetie and I just finished watching a movie and are enjoying the evening. You should, too. Really. Yawnstretchpurr. J Sweet dreams, Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit I consider this an inappropriate response to the problem at hand. Christ was not longsuffering at the temple. The kind of filth put out by Daniel to Izzy is never to be tolerated by other Christians. Why even have rules, David, if you have no intention of applying them? You have a cancer growing in this group. If nothing is done, if there is no responsible leadership and pastoring here, it will destroy this group JUST AS IT HAS OTHER GROUPS. Take it to the bank. If you want a group that is vibrant and strong, take out the trash. Maybe if izzy the whor jezebel would stop violating I Timothy 2 she wouldn't get so much rebuke poured out on her. You and john are nothing but hypocrites. When you turned your ear from Torah and the law -- you turned your ear from Jesus the Messiah -- and now you are filled with only devilish lusts. YahVah rebuke you, whore! in typical idiot female fashion, you did not even respond to my post Tell me, sinner john, do you also try not to commit adultery? Do you try not to beat your wife? Do you try to not masturbate? Do you try to obey Jesus John the more than tolerant In a message dated 4/30/2004 9:36:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John S. wrote: It should be a simple thing to eliminate this loser from the list. Take strength from the Word of God, John. :-) Gal 5:22, But the fruit of the Spirit is ... longsuffering But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses, In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings; By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned, By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left, By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as deceivers, and yet true; As unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and, behold, we live; as chastened, and not killed; As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things. (2 Corinthians 6:4-10 KJV) That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness. (Colossians 1:10-11 KJV) Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another ... (Colossians 3:12-16 KJV) Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.
