[USMA:26609] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
Bill Potts wrote: As you're using an 8-bit encoding scheme for your messages, you can enter the actual euro character, (Alt+0128). I have two questions: 1. If I press the Alt key and let go, it puts me into the menu bar. If I press and hold the Alt key and then press keys 0,1,2,8 in succession

[USMA:26595] Re: using metric in a land that does not compute

2003-08-14 Thread Brian White
Gee thanks. haha. -- Original Message --- From: Bill Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:13:43 -0700 Subject: [USMA:26593] Re: using metric in a land that does not compute Careful, or we're likely to start calling you

[USMA:26614] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
John Woelflein wrote: Bill neglected to tell you that you must use the number pad number buttons along with the Alt key, not the numbers that run across the top of the keyboard. I didn't wish to insult anyone by pointing out what I assumed just about everyone with a PC already knew. That approach

[USMA:26613] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
1. You must use the numbers on the numeric keypad. If you have a laptop, you need to press NumLock first. 2. There is no specific Alt Gr on U.S. keyboards. However, there is a right Alt key, which operates like the Alt Gr key if you configure for the U.S. International keyboard (which is the way

[USMA:26615] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Brian White
Yup. Never thought of that as currently I'm on a laptop. -- Original Message --- From: Bill Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:04:05 -0700 Subject: [USMA:26614] Re: M$ John Woelflein wrote: Bill neglected to tell

[USMA:26587] Re: using metric in a land that does not compute

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
this system is out of date today - use BMI BMI = mass/hight in m² e.g. 90/1,85² = 26,3 Slightly overweighted bye Pat Naughtin wrote: Dear paul, Have you heard of a 'Rule of thumb' that says that your ideal body mass is equal to your height minus a metre. Say thast you are 1.85 metres

[USMA:26572] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Carl Sorenson
CONCLUSION: French were always more sophisticated than English. Have you ever seen English money, then you undersand why only this nation could have invented the FFU. bye Michael, Michael, Michael. You never seem to give up trying to bash the British. I've mentioned it to you before. Stop

[USMA:26581] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
Once Britain is fully metricated, our descendents will make a similar assumption and imagine that Americans invented them. once? yes, good question! I see litte effort from the British side. I don't understand the stupid pint beer and milk law. This is not a progressive think! bye

[USMA:26592] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
Brian White: When in Europe a few months ago, IIRC every time I saw euros it was 45e or whatever. I was in Denmark, Sweden, Finland and Russia. As you're using an 8-bit encoding scheme for your messages, you can enter the actual euro character, € (Alt+0128). Bill Potts, CMS Roseville, CA

[USMA:26612] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread David Shatto
This is a great idea! I wonder why all economists haven't widely adopted this (economics is alleged to be a science, you know.) I can just imagine having the following conversation: Dad, can I have a dekadollar to go out with my friends? No, sorry kid, I don't have a centidollar! But

[USMA:26571] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
Michael-O wrote: CONCLUSION: French were always more sophisticated than English. Have you ever seen English money, then you undersand why only this nation could have invented the FFU. English notes are not as colourful as French Franc notes. In that respect, the French love of beauty triumphs

[USMA:26539] Properties of the SI

2003-08-14 Thread Gene Mechtly
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Pat Naughtin wrote: ... I have attached a list, of 21 features,... The International System (SI) is universally accepted because:... SI uses standard prefixes to change from smaller to larger units. Pat, I believe it is more correct to say: SI Prefixes may be

[USMA:26498] Re: Metric distance sign in USA

2003-08-14 Thread David Shatto
Could this be due to local pressure from all the researchers and scientists in the area? Or is there a strong metrication movement in NC? It certainly wouldn't be from catering to Canadian tourists in the area (quite a long way from the border!). David Shatto Los Angeles On Tue, 5 Aug 2003

[USMA:26507] What time is it?

2003-08-14 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear All, The Guardian Weekly recently published this accout of the current state of play among the world's timekeepers. Fascinating stuff. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,985020,00.html Cheers, Pat Naughtin LCAMS Geelong, Australia Pat Naughtin is the editor of the free online

[USMA:26546] Fahrenheit far from dead in the UK

2003-08-14 Thread Han Maenen
Irish Times today. It shows that the Fahrenheit scale is still very much alive in the UK. It always seems to crop up when it gets hot in the summer. So in winter people may say that it is 5 degrees below zero (Celsius); but during a heat wave it suddenly is 95 degrees Fahrenheit. People placed

[USMA:26583] RE: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
John: If you were to change your message encoding from "US ASCII" to Western European ISO, you'd be able to correctly transmit Québecois (only the first e has an acute accent, by the way). As the ASCII encoding uses only 7 bits, accents aren't possible (too small a symbol set). Nor, for

[USMA:26550] RE: Watley Archives Metric System Increased Food Portions.htm

2003-08-14 Thread Nat Hager III
Title: Message Sure. I liked the following, from their "You are here" link: Nat The Watley Review is dedicated to the production of articles completely without journalistic merit or factual basis, as this would entail leaving our chairs or actually working. Names, places and events are

[USMA:26525] RE: Army Corps of Engineers using cubic feet

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Simpson wrote: www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26211-2003Aug6.html where's the metric part or did I missed something?? Good question. What is the answer?

[USMA:26533] another metric product

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Elwell
Found the following at the local Costco: salad dressing Le Parisien (Salt Lake City, Utah) Original Vinaigrette 1 liter The labeling is not really great (33.8 FL. OZ. (1 ltr.)), but it is clearly a hard-metric product, and made right here in SLC! I also saw at the store the Vidalia

[USMA:26536] Re: Speaking of automotive gauges.

2003-08-14 Thread Gene Mechtly
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Brian White wrote: ... So...if I pushed on a metal square...really really hard. I'd say that's pressure I'm applying. If I measured the force hitting that little square...could I not say that the force I was measuring was the force of my pressing it really really hard?

[USMA:26541] Q to the US military

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
Hi, sometimes I watch some documentaries about the technology deployed by the us military. Actually, the original voice is turned down but I can still alsmost only FFU. WHY?? bye

[USMA:26605] Re: using metric in a land that does not compute

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
I *know* this rule of thumb but just like I said and Brian emphasized this is out of date. Bill Potts wrote: Michael: You might want to think before you reply in the future, rather than criticizing someone for something that's not at issue anyway. Pat's quick rule of thumb was based on an

[USMA:26502] Re: Metric distance sign in USA

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
I'm puzzled by your reference to French Canadians. English Canadians use metric too. You may be allowing yourself to be influenced by the practices of some manufacturers. My Black and Decker electric lawnmower, for example, shows blade size in inches in English and in centimeters in French. Bill

[USMA:26563] France Bans the Letter E

2003-08-14 Thread Louis JOURDAN
Elaborating on the article of the Watley Review supplied by Nat Hager, I would suggest to those interested to go to http://www.watleyreview.com/2003/072903-1.html What the article does not say is that the writer Georges Perec published in 1969 a 320-page book which does not include the letter

[USMA:26600] Re: using metric in a land that does not compute

2003-08-14 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear Michael, What you say is true and BMI is widely used in the health professions. However, my 'Rule of thumb' has the advantage of simplicity. on 2003-08-14 09.51, Michael-O at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this system is out of date today - use BMI BMI = mass/hight in m² e.g. 90/1,85² =

[USMA:26604] RE: Google converts

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
Not so. I entered 256 K to Fahrenheit and got 256 Kelvin = 1.13 degrees Fahrenheit as the response. Bill Potts, CMS Roseville, CA http://metric1.org [SI Navigator] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carl Sorenson Sent: Wednesday, August 13,

[USMA:26586] M$

2003-08-14 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear All, Here is a piece that I wrote for 'Australian Style', an editorial magazine. Cheers, Pat Naughtin LCAMS Geelong, Australia ** Money and writing Pat Naughtin Bankers and other regular handlers of money are remarkably conservative. Recently (2001), the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE)

[USMA:26577] using metric in a land that does not compute

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Trusten
A few days ago, I bought a food scale so I can more closely monitor the size of my meals to maintain my 70 kg (grin) of mass. It has a WOMBAT/metric switch on it, and from the start, I decided to use only grams in weighing my food. It is a pleasure to weigh in grams on a regular basis; there

[USMA:26537] Re: Reporting metric packaging violations?

2003-08-14 Thread Gene Mechtly
Jason, Enforcement of labeling requirements is the duty of local inspectors except in higher profile cases of widespread illnesses or deaths which are more likely to draw federal prosecutors into the process. Tell me the name of your City and County and I'll search for your local inspector(s) in

[USMA:26601] Re: What is for you metrication?

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
Pat Naughtin wrote: By the way, I note that you use the abbreviation ml for millilitre. Is this the practice generally in the USA, or is it restricted to the pharmaceutical industry? In Australia mL is recommended and it is the most used, ml is seen, but it is much less common than mL. The SI-10

[USMA:26531] Re: 28/293 Calendar Special Day

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
Brij, I struggle to read your messages. Would you please consider making use of paragraphs, and put an empty line between each paragraph? -- Terry Simpson Human Factors Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.connected-systems.com Phone: +44 7850 511794

[USMA:26535] RE: another metric product

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
Jim Elwell The labeling is not really great (33.8 FL. OZ. (1 ltr.)) It is also illegal. There must be a reference to a quart. The FPLA says: If at least 1 pint but less than 1 gallon, in terms of the largest whole unit (quarts, quarts and pints or pints, as appropriate), with any remainder in

[USMA:26547] Re: Fahrenheit far from dead in the UK

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
isn't it agains the law to use Fahrenheit? Is it pursued with death? Han Maenen wrote: Irish Times today. It shows that the Fahrenheit scale is still very much alive in the UK. It always seems to crop up when it gets hot in the summer. So in winter people may say that it is 5 degrees below

[USMA:26528] RE: Army Corps of Engineers using cubic feet

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
Bill Potts wrote: The statement in your subject line draws an unwarranted conclusion. All you can conclude from the Washington Post article is that the Washington Post uses cubic feet. You are correct. My statement is unsupported by the reference. Thanks for pointing that out. However, I had

[USMA:26496] metric newsgroup

2003-08-14 Thread Brij Bhushan Vij
NO I don't think so. One reason that I have is ' personal limitations' like resources and availability of these at your command. And, then the sincerity of purpose that I feel lacks. I have said more than once about this! Metric News Group is agood idea, but ...the end result Brij

[USMA:26520] Re: Speaking of automotive gauges.

2003-08-14 Thread Pat Naughtin
Gene Mechtly wrote in USMA 26509 Please note that the SI unit of pressure is newton/meter2, force/area (N/m2, or pascal); kg/cm2 is mass/area which is *not* a pressure. Gene. And in USMA: 26517 on 2003-08-06 23.26, Joseph B. Reid at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quite right. kg/cm2 is a hangover

[USMA:26540] Site upgdate

2003-08-14 Thread James R. Frysinger
Folks, I've just updated my Metric Methods site a bit and I invite your comments. Also, I've set up a spam filter with my ISP that just might make my [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address useable. My [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], and [EMAIL PROTECTED] addresses remain quite useable and the

[USMA:26558] RE: What is for you metrication?

2003-08-14 Thread Brian White
It twas I...said the fly. I said it wasn't part of the USMA's purpose as Michael said the USMA should lobby for international roadsigns in the US. -- Original Message --- From: Bill Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2003

[USMA:26590] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Brian White
Interesting...but I can't see how 2 $/kg (which looks akward not unlike some C programming haha..) is better than $2 kg. Now...$2/kg would even be better in my mind. But even so... When in Europe a few months ago, IIRC every time I saw euros it was 45e or whatever. I was in Denmark, Sweden,

[USMA:26606] Re: Oregon DOT

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
disappointing and then January 2006 nationwide metric transition! ha ha Nat Hager III wrote: The only positive thing I see in this is that 14 states are still using metric or dual units, as of October 2002. Nat http://www.odot.state.or.us/techserv/engineer/pdu/Metric%20to%20english/

[USMA:26567] M$

2003-08-14 Thread John Woelflein
Look at this Quebec web site and the use of M$ in the link: http://www.mtq.gouv.qc.ca/fr/index.asp Never saw that one before. John Woelflein Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

[USMA:26549] RE: Watley Archives Metric System Increased Food Portions.htm

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
Title: Message That's probably because it's satire (but then, you were implying that -- I hope). If you go to their home page (at http://www.watleyreview.com/), you'll see that their motto is "Journalism, Schmournalism." 'Nuff said. Bill Potts, CMSRoseville, CAhttp://metric1.org [SI

[USMA:26511] Re: Metric distance sign in USA

2003-08-14 Thread John Woelflein
Maybe that's because ofle Parti Québécois back in the 1970s got rid of most English on public signs, etc., and began using the comma for a decimal marker and placing the dollar sign after the amount for money in ads, and so on. Seems like the PQ wanted to associate itself with Franceand distance

[USMA:26616] Did the right thing!

2003-08-14 Thread Han Maenen
A few minutes I saw a news item on TV, about a group of young Americans visiting the man-made caves in the extreme south of my country. For anyone from the group who thinks about travelling to the Netherlands in the future, these caves are very interesting. The Tourist Office in Maastricht should

[USMA:26619] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Nat Hager III
I for one didn't know it, until about 3-4 years ago when you clued me in this group! Just one of those things you miss... :-) Nat -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Potts Sent: Thursday, 2003 August 14 14:04 To: U.S. Metric Association

[USMA:26512] Re: Speaking of automotive gauges.

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
To give you a briefer response than the one provided by Gene, the SI unit of pressure is the pascal (Pa). Tire pressure and oil pressure should be measured in kilopascals (kPa). The average person doesn't need a full explanation -- just the conversion factor from pounds per square inch (6.894

[USMA:26495] Metric distance sign in USA

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
Here is an American sign showing km, apparently it is on Durham Freeway NC 147. www.geocities.com/trianglesigns/pictures/durhamco/metric.jpg Somebody said that the BWMA defied anyone to find one and bet money on it. -- Terry Simpson Human Factors Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[USMA:26597] Oregon DOT

2003-08-14 Thread Nat Hager III
Title: Message The only positive thing I see in this is that 14 states are still using metric or dual units, as of October 2002. Nat http://www.odot.state.or.us/techserv/engineer/pdu/Metric%20to%20english/Exec.%20Deputy%20Director's%20memo%20to%20the%20dept.%20on%20conversion.htm

[USMA:26515] Re: Speaking of automotive gauges.

2003-08-14 Thread Brian White
Hahaha..you guys seem to be the ones with the issues concerning kg/cm2. I'm just fine with it...especially relative to the other choices--a dummy L-H gauge that really isnt'a gauge (it's binary), or a gauge in PSI. -- Original Message --- From: Bill Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[USMA:26584] RE: using metric in a land that does not compute

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
Paul Trusten wrote: US serving sizes are often quoted in units of produce http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/foodlab.html Here is a rather poor image of a UK (and hence EU) compliant label. http://www.fst.rdg.ac.uk/foodlaw/label/c1-ex1.htm

[USMA:26582] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
Krishna Kambhampaty wrote: I assume Ko and Mo (used in a table) refer to kilobytes and megabytes? I didn't find the table. However, K would be wrong for kilo, which should be k. If they're talking about file sizes, Ki (for kibi) and Mi (for mebi) would be preferable (see

[USMA:26578] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
Michael-O wrote: ok ok, the Imperial System has been invented in England? The term 'Imperial system' is British but the units are not exclusively British. Some of the units were common (in various versions) all over Europe. Once Britain is fully metricated, our descendents will make a similar

[USMA:26607] Re: What is for you metrication?

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
g (Although Pat Naughty has a certain charm.) I like it too :D

[USMA:26543] Market on Henry Street Dublin

2003-08-14 Thread Han Maenen
There is an enormous potential for creating Metric Martyrs on the daily street market in Henry Street, Dublin. Many things are sold by the piece there, but when something is sold by the measuring unit, there are only these age-old scales and age-old weights to be seen. I must assume that these

[USMA:26591] Re: using metric in a land that does not compute

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
Michael: You might want to think before you reply in the future, rather than criticizing someone for something that's not at issue anyway. Pat's quick rule of thumb was based on an assumption about BMI. As BMI is derived from height and mass, then height can be derived from BMI and mass. His

[USMA:26555] What is for you metrication?

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
Hi, I am wondering what you people think of the best metrication process. How elaborated should it be? Is metrication the pure measuring or a way of life? This idea came to me as Bill (?) said, that metric (int'l) roadsigns aren't a part of SI/metrication. Here is my point of view: It is not

[USMA:26524] Re: Army Corps of Engineers using cubic feet

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
Terry Simpson wrote: www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26211-2003Aug6.html where's the metric part or did I missed something?? bye

[USMA:26611] Re: using metric in a land that does not compute

2003-08-14 Thread Paul Trusten, R.Ph.
I replied to Pat privately, but it's no secret. My ideal mass is 70 kg, but I'm 1.73 m tall. It's close! My current BMI is 23.4. - Original Message - From: Michael-O [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:05 AM Subject:

[USMA:26596] RE: Google converts

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
I tried 10 acres to ha Worked beautifully, giving me a response of 10 acres = 4.04685642 hectares. By the way, although the word to is omitted (by them) for actual searches, it's required for the calculation. Bill Potts, CMS Roseville, CA http://metric1.org [SI Navigator] -Original

[USMA:26523] Army Corps of Engineers using cubic feet

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26211-2003Aug6.html -- Terry Simpson Human Factors Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.connected-systems.com Phone: +44 7850 511794

[USMA:26573] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
I was talking about the coins only, I've never seen the bills and I hope I *will* never see them! ok ok, the Imperial System has been invented in England? bye Terry Simpson wrote: Michael-O wrote: CONCLUSION: French were always more sophisticated than English. Have you ever seen English

[USMA:26603] RE: Google converts

2003-08-14 Thread Carl Sorenson
The google converter is pretty cool. If you enter liter it says liter and if you say litre it is different. It recognizes cubits, parsecs, light years, degrees Fahrenheit, degrees Kelvin (but not just Kelvins), leagues, fathoms, troy ounces, etc. Carl

[USMA:26617] French and British. WAS: Re: Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Han Maenen
Michael, The French can be sophisticated but also very unsophisticated. That is also true for the British and all other peoples on this planet. If we were really that sophisticated, we would measure the power of cars in kilowatt, and not in horse power as is done only too often yet. The British

[USMA:26618] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread M R
Different shapes for coins is a very good idea. They could have made in Round : 1 cent, 10 cents 1 euro coins Square: 2 cents, 20 cents 2 euro coins Hectagon : 5 cents 50 cents coins Atleast they have different colors for different sets of coins and that is good. Madan --- Terry

[USMA:26564] Too quiet?...

2003-08-14 Thread Ma Be
I was just wondering what was going on with our group. I haven't received ANY mails for the last 2 or 3 days. It might have been my fault since I was trying to improve on the spam control feature of my angelfire account setting it to high. However, unbeknownst to me I may have shut out

[USMA:26622] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
M R wrote: Different shapes for coins is a very good idea. They could have made in Round : 1 cent, 10 cents 1 euro coins Square: 2 cents, 20 cents 2 euro coins Hectagon : 5 cents 50 cents coins the sizes are a mess! ever seen Euro coins? bye Atleast they have different

[USMA:26621] Re: French and British. WAS: Re: Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
Han Maenen wrote: Michael, The French can be sophisticated but also very unsophisticated. That is also true for the British and all other peoples on this planet. If we were really that sophisticated, we would measure the power of cars in kilowatt, and not in horse power as is done only too

[USMA:26623] Power disaster hits North America

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/08/14/power_030814 check the top time! it's 24 h clock in the text unfortunately pm but at the bottom 30 Celsius! bye

[USMA:26593] Re: using metric in a land that does not compute

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
Careful, or we're likely to start calling you Thunder Thighs. g Bill Potts, CMS Roseville, CA http://metric1.org [SI Navigator] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian White Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 16:55 To: U.S. Metric Association

[USMA:26624] Re: Power disaster hits North America

2003-08-14 Thread Brian White
Duh..that's because you quoted a Canadian news report from the CBC. -- Original Message --- From: Michael-O [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:24:12 +0200 Subject: [USMA:26623] Power disaster hits North America

[USMA:26625] Re: Power disaster hits North America

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
Brian White wrote: Duh..that's because you quoted a Canadian news report from the CBC. I know about the celsius but the resT? I don't understand why canada and other commonwealth countries still stuck to AM/PM even in UK 24 h is spreading bye

[USMA:26626] Re: Power disaster hits North America

2003-08-14 Thread Brian White
You yourself said that it was half 24h and half am/pm. That's about where Canada stands. -- Original Message --- From: Michael-O [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 23:46:21 +0200 Subject: Re: [USMA:26624]

[USMA:26602] Re: What is for you metrication?

2003-08-14 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear Bill, I think that the term for your creativity should be prefaced with: 'Independently and some time later . . .' Cheers, Pat Naughtin LCAMS Geelong, Australia -- on 2003-08-14 11.44, Bill Potts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, when my spell checker encounters Naughtin, it

[USMA:26608] Re: Google converts

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
It even converts with a decimal comma! hi hi

[USMA:26599] Re: Watley Archives Metric System Increased FoodPortions.htm

2003-08-14 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear Louis, So what happened to all the talk of 'metric down-sizing'? It looks like this is a case for an argument about 'metric up-sizing! Cheers, Pat Naughtin LCAMS Geelong, Australia Pat Naughtin is the editor of the free online newsletter, 'Metrication matters'. You can subscribe by

[USMA:26598] Re: What is for you metrication?

2003-08-14 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear Paul, The Australian approach to this would be to replace the 551 mL with 600 mL ­ an increase of about 9 %. As a food iten this would then parallel increases made to other container sizes here. For example: 454 grams rounded to 500 grams is about 10 % (1 pound) 568 millilitres grams

[USMA:26594] Google converts

2003-08-14 Thread David Shatto
Here's something brand new from Google - it converts weights and measures! quote from CNET Google's math By Stefanie Olsen, Staff Writer, CNET News.com August 13, 2003, 10:35 AM PT Google on Tuesday added a feature to its popular search tool that allows visitors to calculate mathematical

[USMA:26574] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Brian White
Oh..so that explains it. Michael has never even been to the UK? How about the US? It's easy to generalize about places you've never been Michael. I say go out and travel, then you'll learn a little. -- Original Message --- From: Michael-O [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U.S. Metric

[USMA:26585] Re: using metric in a land that does not compute

2003-08-14 Thread Pat Naughtin
Dear paul, Have you heard of a 'Rule of thumb' that says that your ideal body mass is equal to your height minus a metre. Say thast you are 1.85 metres tall ­ take away one metre and the remaining number, 85, should be your ideal body mass. In your case, as you are 70 kilograms, does this equate

[USMA:26566] Fw: 1982

2003-08-14 Thread Norman Nancy Werling
I became acquainted with Greg Peterson through his Canada Metrication web site several years ago. Eventually he joined in the USMA list and was a contributor for a year or so. Last summer, my wife Nancy and I visited the Petersons in Saskatoon, SK. Greg was born in 1971 and if you read the

[USMA:26580] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
I've been to the US and love the US! Travel? want my IBAN and BIC? Brian White wrote: Oh..so that explains it. Michael has never even been to the UK? How about the US? It's easy to generalize about places you've never been Michael. I say go out and travel, then you'll learn a little.

[USMA:26575] RE: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Nat Hager III
FWIW, last I was up in rural Quebec chilling out (Hull, north to Trans-Canada highway, and down to Mont Tremblant) and saw a lot of x.xx$ style pricing and comma decimal points. Wasn't paying a lot of attention though, as I don't see it's critical to metric. Nat -Original Message-

[USMA:26569] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
CONCLUSION: French were always more sophisticated than English. Have you ever seen English money, then you undersand why only this nation could have invented the FFU. bye John Woelflein wrote: Look at this Quebec web site and the use of M$ in the link: http://www.mtq.gouv.qc.ca/fr/index.asp

[USMA:26570] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Michael-O
Look down at the page: Dernière modification de cette page : 2003-06-25 ins't this great! John Woelflein wrote: Look at this Quebec web site and the use of M$ in the link: http://www.mtq.gouv.qc.ca/fr/index.asp Never saw that one before. John Woelflein

[USMA:26568] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Krishna Kambhampaty
All I can say is WOW. Not only is the $ symbol trailing the money but with SI prefixes. I used to do this casually in some of my work to the consternation of my colleagues but it didn't last long. Trust the Quebecois to innovate, again. I assume Ko and Mo (used in a table) refer to kilobytes

[USMA:26565] RE: Too quiet?...

2003-08-14 Thread Nat Hager III
Marcus, FYI - Most spam programs will allow you to add addresses or domains to a safe list, so messages from that address/domain are passed regardless of content. I have USMA on my safe list, either by adding: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by adding the 4 non-spaming top-domains: .edu, .gov, .mil, .org

[USMA:26628] Re: Oregon DOT

2003-08-14 Thread Bob Price
MessageJust curious, what are the remaining states that use metric in road construction? I understand that California and New York still use metric, and that Pennsylvania is dual, who are the others? - Original Message - From: Nat Hager III To: U.S. Metric Association Sent:

[USMA:26556] RE: What is for you metrication?

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
Michael Ossipov wrote: This idea came to me as Bill (?) said, that metric (int'l) roadsigns aren't a part of SI/metrication. I don't know who said that, but I wasn't the one. Bill Potts, CMS Roseville, CA http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]

[USMA:26554] Re: Watley Archives Metric System Increased Food Portions.htm

2003-08-14 Thread Nat Hager III
That's the only reason I even bit for a second, at a sleepy 05.00 in the morning, about the White House spokesman. Stranger things have been occuring the last few months! Nat -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Trusten Sent: Monday,

[USMA:26551] RE: Watley Archives Metric System Increased Food Portions.htm

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
Bill Potts wrote: That's probably because it's satire It is a pleasure to read US satire, and it busts the stereotype that Americans do not understand irony. I enjoy www.theonion.com (the name 'Chicago' comes from the Indian name for a local onion). For example: [liter] Coca Cola introduces new

[USMA:26560] Re: What is for you metrication?

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
Paul Trusten My blueberries are packaged in US Dry Pints, which are translated to be 551 ml. Why not just call it 500 ml of strawberries? Some of us are optimistic that the FPLA revision will result in many manufacturers choosing to be metric only. The current dual unit FPLA obliges them to

[USMA:26561] Re: Q to the US military

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Simpson
Helen Bushnell wrote: Michael-O wrote: sometimes I watch some documentaries about the technology deployed by the us military. Actually, the original voice is turned down but I can still alsmost only FFU. WHY?? Because of a lack of respect for the intelligence of their audience and because our

[USMA:26545] Review needed for revised pages

2003-08-14 Thread James R. Frysinger
Folks, Yesterday I placed an invitation for the members of this list to review my web site and to make comments. Two people have found the time to do so, which I greatly appreciate. As a result of those comments, I have so far added two pages to my list of recently revised pages. Now the list

[USMA:26509] Re: Speaking of automotive gauges.

2003-08-14 Thread Gene Mechtly
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Brian White wrote: I converted my oil pressure gauge in my Miata from PSI to kg/cm2. ... Brian, Please note that the SI unit of pressure is newton/meter2, force/area (N/m2, or pascal); kg/cm2 is mass/area which is *not* a pressure. PSI is pounds (force)/inch2, not pounds

[USMA:26514] Re: Speaking of automotive gauges.

2003-08-14 Thread Bill Potts
As you appear to be the Mazda owner, I'd say it's up to you, not us, to take it up with them. g Bill Potts, CMS Roseville, CA http://metric1.org [SI Navigator] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian White Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 19:34

[USMA:26513] Re: Speaking of automotive gauges.

2003-08-14 Thread Brian White
Ok..that's all fine. You guys should take that up with Mazda who provided a kg/cm2 oil pressure gauge. g And like I've said before, bar is much more handy in automotive scenarios. -- Original Message --- From: Bill Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL

[USMA:26504] Re: Metric distance sign in USA

2003-08-14 Thread James Wentworth
More Francophone than Anglophone Canadian tourists visit Miami, and the symbolic-style international speed limit signs make any language barriers moot. -- Jason - Original Message - From: Bill Potts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August

[USMA:26519] Reporting metric packaging violations?

2003-08-14 Thread James Wentworth
Hello All, In the US, to what agency/agencies does one report metric packaging violations? There is a local barbecue sauce company that labels its bottles only in ounces (not even fluid ounces, but dry ounces!). They also don't include a nutritional information panel as required by the FDA

[USMA:26629] Re: M$

2003-08-14 Thread Louis JOURDAN
At 9:44 -0800 14/08/03, David Shatto wrote: This is a great idea! I wonder why all economists haven't widely adopted this (economics is alleged to be a science, you know.) I can just imagine having the following conversation: Dad, can I have a dekadollar to go out with my friends? No, sorry kid,