Re: [Vo]:Put your money where your mouth is - for charity

2011-11-29 Thread Patrick Ellul
Hi Mary Yugo, You might be able to get away with your pseudo-identity on long bets. There's no harm in trying to register at the website. Let me know how it goes. Regards, Patrick On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: My bet is: at 30 nov 2013 at least 5

Re: [Vo]:Congress cuts the Gordian knot of aviation patents in 1917

2011-11-29 Thread noone noone
A tax on cold fusion devices? The last thing we need is another tax! Our government wastes billions of dollars as it is. They could save billions by ending hot fusion research, and bringing our troops home from around the world. The ITER needs to be abolished.

Re: [Vo]:Congress cuts the Gordian knot of aviation patents in 1917

2011-11-29 Thread noone noone
I think what we need to do is convince the world that the E-Cat works, and then promote a peaceful uprising of the people to force the patent office to grand Rossi's patents. From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [Vo]:Congress cuts the Gordian knot of aviation patents in 1917

2011-11-29 Thread noone noone
I  don't agree with the government using tax dollars to pay cold fusion inventors. In my opinion, the government needs to be forced (peacefully) to grant Rossi's patent. When the government tries to fix a problem they helped create, 9 out of 10 times they make it worse.

Re: [Vo]:Virtual Particles are Gravitational Dipoles

2011-11-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 29, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: I had always wondered about this: Four reasons why the quantum vacuum may explain dark matter November 28, 2011 by Lisa Zyga (PhysOrg.com) -- Earlier this year, PhysOrg reported on a new idea that suggested that gravitational charges in the

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

2011-11-29 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
I like his theory, it may well be the process happening. Even if it isn't entirely, it provides a good starting point for further research. I also very much like his notion of other systems that may show LENR processes already. Including failing Li-Ion batteries, (natural) isotope fractionation

RE: [Vo]:Virtual Particles are Gravitational Dipoles

2011-11-29 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Horace Heffner NICE, Horace - thanks for explaining this once again in the context of an incorrect view (Hajdukovic). I finally understand where you are coming from. This is the best stuff to appear on Vortex in months and makes me glad I did not sign off when

Re: [Vo]:Virtual Particles are Gravitational Dipoles

2011-11-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 29, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner NICE, Horace - thanks for explaining this once again in the context of an incorrect view (Hajdukovic). I finally understand where you are coming from. This is the best stuff to appear on Vortex

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion

2011-11-29 Thread Robert Leguillon
I've been looking through the Defkalion site again. They previously supplied the Rossi patent material and Kullander reports as supporting documentation. They have since removed Rossi references and claim the rights to market globally. Praxen Defkalion Green Technologies (Global) Ltd., is

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

2011-11-29 Thread pagnucco
The Widom-Larsen transmutation experiments, e.g., electon beam impinging on copper target (slides 21-23 in Widom's presentation [*]) certainly are verifiable/falsifiable. It would be suprising if NASA's Bushnell has not verified them. Many other credible researchers confirm them. Is it

[Vo]:WMO: Our science is solid and it proves unequivocally that the world is warming and that this warming is due to human activities

2011-11-29 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
That is a VERY strong statement the WMO has just published: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-30/climate-change-to-kill-australians2c-report-says/3703062 say he sitting in Australia with 42 Ac GWs of thermal plants on line. Hey Rossi how long to deliver 120 thermal GWs of E-Cats? Am I serious?

[Vo]:Test / robot panic

2011-11-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
This is only a test. But as long as I am writing it, here are some great pictures of robots gone wild from the 1930s: http://www.slate.com/slideshows/technology/the-robot-panic-of-the-great-depression.html

Re: [Vo]:WMO: Our science is solid and it proves unequivocally that the world is warming and that this warming is due to human activities

2011-11-29 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Better link: http://www.wmo.int/pages/mediacentre/press_releases/pr_935_en.html AG On 11/30/2011 12:53 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: That is a VERY strong statement the WMO has just published: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-30/climate-change-to-kill-australians2c-report-says/3703062 say he

[Vo]:Congress cuts the Gordian knot of aviation patents in 1917

2011-11-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't agree with the government using tax dollars to pay cold fusion inventors. In my opinion, the government needs to be forced (peacefully) to grant Rossi's patent. As I said, having the government grant a patent is functionally equivalent to

[Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-29 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
As a guide: 1) thermal to electrical conversion efficiency of 35%, generating 350 Ac kWs from 1 MW thermal 2) COP 6, feeding 167 kWs of electricity generated back into the input to generate 1 MW thermal 3) 183 Ac kWs available to be sold (350 Ac kWs generated - 167 Ac kWs looped back)

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-29 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: 4) Total plant cost (thermal and electrical) of $2,500,000 for a 1 MW thermal plant that produces 183 Ac kW after internal usage / losses Playing the game for a moment, why does the thing have to cost $2.5M?

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-29 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
I'm working from currently published figures. $2 million for a 1 MW thermal plant and $500 k for the hot fluid to steam generator to steam turbine to Ac generator plus control systems, valves, pumps, waste heat radiators, etc. My projection is based on what I believe may be achievable in the

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-29 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
Talking about money, didn't Rossi say that a big chunk of the money he is going to make will go to children with cancer? What happened to that? G On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: I'm working from currently published figures. $2 million for a 1 MW

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-29 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
As a potential customer it is not my concern as it has no effect on the ROI or LCOE of any plant and / or equipment he may supply to us. AG On 11/30/2011 3:17 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: Talking about money, didn't Rossi say that a big chunk of the money he is going to make will go to

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-29 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: As a potential customer it is not my concern as it has no effect on the ROI or LCOE of any plant and / or equipment he may supply to us. Apparently you're also not too concerned that Rossi may be a liar.

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-29 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
I'm not buying Rossi. I'm buying a piece of hardware with specifications that define how it should work. Hardware does not lie. Humans do lie and I accept that happens. Are you asking me to believe you have never lied? IMHO Rossi has never lie to or mislead me. We exchange emails several times

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-29 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: I'm not buying Rossi. I'm buying a piece of hardware with specifications that define how it should work. Hardware does not lie. Humans do lie and I accept that happens. Are you asking me to believe you have never

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-29 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Rossi has not yet released the technical specs for the 1 MW thermal oil / fluid plant. It is still under RD as he says. But he works fast and I expect this to happen soon. When he does so we can rapidly move forward as from the outlet fluid temperature spec, we can determine the max steam

Re: [Vo]:Virtual Particles are Gravitational Dipoles

2011-11-29 Thread Dr Josef Karthauser
On 29 Nov 2011, at 22:49, Horace Heffner wrote: In 2007 I converted Jemimenko's theory into a full isomorphism between the laws of electromagnetism and the laws of gravimagnetism. Creating this isomorphism involves the use of the imaginary number i in gravimagnetic terms, and thus the

Re: [Vo]:As a guide

2011-11-29 Thread Mary Yugo
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.comwrote: Rossi has not yet released the technical specs for the 1 MW thermal oil / fluid plant. It is still under RD as he says. But he works fast and I expect this to happen soon. When he does so we can rapidly move

Re: [Vo]:Detailed 1-MW demo temperature analysis ; peak power = 490 kW, mean power 461 kW.

2011-11-29 Thread Berke Durak
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: I could have made a mistake, but by my calculations, if the power increases at a constant Pdot = 160 W/s, then 13.5 L of water (per unit) will begin to boil in t = sqrt(2Q/Pdot) = 40 minutes, not 90. And the power at

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

2011-11-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 29, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: I like his theory, it may well be the process happening. Even if it isn't entirely, it provides a good starting point for further research. I also very much like his notion of other systems that may show LENR processes already. Including

Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's amazing claims

2011-11-29 Thread Axil Axil
“where one of the two protons fuses, and the other is ejected carrying the energy of the fusion reaction of the first proton.” Could these two protons derive from a cooper pair of protons coming from a Bose-Einstein condensate of entangled protons? On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Congress cuts the Gordian knot of aviation patents in 1917

2011-11-29 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
the need to merge the patent like it has been for plane seems reasonable. the notion of taxing cold fusion is classic for IP or any business. Windows is a tax on PC... state or private is a polemic detail. the CF inventors could merge their patents to accelerate the developpement of

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