On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:45 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I hope that the scientists can achieve the look and taste of normal meats.
It would be difficult to eat fabricated meat products unless they closely
resemble the real thing.
I suppose that people can learn to accept
From Rossi:
Also our Customer has chosen other
suppliers for the first generation of the domestic E-Cats and of the 1
MW plants.
It is possible that a simple PLC/PAC could have been chosen. I don't
think stabilization would be that big a challenge. All Rossi needed
was some feedback.
T
Some weeks ago, Rossi said that NI, he and the customer were working
together on the 1MW plant. And now the customer wants something
different? Why change a running system (if it ever was running)? And why
is it important to the customer, which company supplies the controlling
mechanism for a
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote:
Some weeks ago, Rossi said that NI, he and the customer were working
together on the 1MW plant. And now the customer wants something different?
Why change a running system (if it ever was running)? And why is it
important
From David and Terry:
I hope that the scientists can achieve the look and taste of normal
meats. It would be difficult to eat fabricated meat products unless
they closely resemble the real thing.
I suppose that people can learn to accept whatever is placed before
them as food, but
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:22 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
I use SILK (a soy product) as a milk substitute on my cereal in the morning.
I don't kid myself that SILK tastes like milk. It doesn't. It tasts like...
SILK, a soy by-product. Once I got that
http://defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=1113p=6448#p6448
(third message on page)
excerpt:
We requested for a Skype conference call with Mr Smith, similar to
what he had requested from Mr Rossi. Mr Smith declined our offer.
Strangely, when Mr Rossi declined Mr Smith, Mr Smith called
I knew a pathological liar when I was younger, she was one of the smartest
people I have ever met, but would lie to no benefit other than to make
herself look better or garner sympathy from the bad things she said had
happened to her. I didn't realise it at first, thinking she had had a lot
of
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Robert Lynn
robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
So what is going on?
Why are they isolating the reactor? Are they trying to hide a performance
short-fall too?
It is getting very frustrating.
PDGT will demonstrate their reactor generates heat whereas a
From Terry:
(third message on page)
excerpt:
We requested for a Skype conference call with Mr Smith, similar to
what he had requested from Mr Rossi. Mr Smith declined our offer.
Strangely, when Mr Rossi declined Mr Smith, Mr Smith called
Mr Rossi a scam. Should we consider the same of Mr
Hello group,
I see that Steven Krivit posted the following email in the comment
section of his latest blogpost, where he reported (through the words of
Julia Betts, corporate communications and investor relations manager for
National Instruments) that NI is denying any current business
Yes this is another relativistic perspective of why gas loaded into the
lattice of a time crystal APPEARS to take on fractional/hydrino/inverse
Rydberg states. Once the atom achieves ground state it cant go any lower
but it can be displaced on the time axis appearing to get smaller in either
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Akira Shirakawa
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:
Fantastic
information from National Instruments otherwise.
Like all revolutionary new ideas, the subject has had to pass through
three stages, which may be summed up by these reactions: (1) 'It's
crazy --- don't
One hundred years ago in 1912 a new type of 5 KW wireless was introduced. It
had a spinning wheel with arcing contacts that broke the sparking RF circuit up
into audio pulses. It modulated the AM band radio frequency signal.
The system transmitted a beep beep beep instead of a crackle
Some weeks ago, Rossi said that NI, he and the customer were working
together on the 1MW plant. And now the customer wants something different?
Why change a running system (if it ever was running)? And why is it
important to the customer, which company supplies the controlling mechanism
for a
On 02/20/2012 11:51 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
One hundred years ago in 1912 a new type of 5 KW wireless
was introduced. It had a spinning wheel with arcing contacts that
broke the sparking RF circuit up into audio pulses. It modulated the
AM band radio frequency signal.
The system
EARTHLINGS:
I'VE BEEN GETTING ALL KINDS OF BEEPING, STATIC ASKING IF I REALLY EXIST! THIS
IS FOOLERY. ASK ANY REAL SCIENTIST IN THE GALAXY (NOT THOSE
SNAKE-HEADED-ASTRONOMERS OF EARTH). THERE IS NO QUESTION BUT WE EXIST. I NO
LONGER REPLY TO SILLY BEEPS.
REGARDS,
ZAPHOD.
Date: Mon, 20 Feb
My suspicion is that our use of radio for communication would be considered
extremely ancient to any civilizations that may be monitoring us. The changes
in carrier modulation that have occurred just within the last 50 years has been
astounding.
Any relatively nearby civilization(100 light
Advanced civilizations may not use RF communications. Or the signal may be
so compressed it looks like noise. However, they will recognize it when
they detect it. If they use radio telescopes they will probably realize
they have intercepted a signal from a civilization, and not a natural
signal.
This is an interesting discussion that mirrors my thinking as well.
I would expect that a civilization millions of years ahead of ours would have
figured a way to construct biological appendages as needed for the tasks at
hand. Our somewhat limited understanding of the biological processes is
Lets just hope that they do not file a complaint with the UCC(Universal
Communications Commission) demanding an end to our interference.
Dave
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From: Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com
To: Vortex Listserve vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 1:07
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Advanced civilizations may not use RF communications. Or the signal may be
so compressed it looks like noise.
Our cell phones already do:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_division_multiple_access
T
This is a bit off topic to the thread (ok, way off), but speaking of
advanced civilizations on earth which we did not know about till very
recently, this one is a full 6000 years ahead of what we thought was the
first advanced ones (i.e. the Fertile Crescent or Egypt). Look at the
detail in the
Let's just hope that it is not typical for an advanced civilization to end
itself with super weapons once it reaches a certain point in its development!
Dave
Thank you Dave, I've been thinking about this in the present contest. The
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
This is a bit off topic to the thread (ok, way off), but speaking of
advanced civilizations on earth which we did not know about till very
recently, this one is a full 6000 years ahead of what we thought was the
first
Alain,
I am trying to find minimal semi-classical models for W-L theory.
Quantum W-L theory requires intense local e-m fields.
Metallic nano-structures can super-focus coulomb and magnetic fields.
Surface probes show huge amplifications at nano-sized hotspots - even
after 2-Dimensional filtering
Jones sez:
This is a bit off topic to the thread (ok, way off)...
... and as you well know that has never stopped the Vort Collective
from engaging in a good debate! ;-)
The following might be of interest to some here:
Michael Cremo Forbidden Archeology
http://www.mcremo.com/
Axil,
I just looked at the first paper
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1202.2539.pdf and can see why you said that no useful
energy could be extracted from the time crystal because it is in it's lowest
energy state but just as they speculate The crystal is only half the equation
like a
Here's some additional photos to wet the imagination!
http://www.forbiddenarcheology.com/
Excerpt:
A metallic sphere from South Africa with three parallel grooves
around its equator (photo courtesy of Roelf Marx). The sphere was
found in a Precambrian mineral deposit, said to be 2.8 billion
are appearing along the pacific northwest coast and seem to correspond
with UFO sightings:
http://www.huliq.com/10282/ufo-sighting-beliefs-counter-todays-science-while-new-metal-box-theory-floated
Now they're disappearing.
T
Orionworks sez:
Here's some additional photos to wet the imagination!
http://www.forbiddenarcheology.com/
Excerpt:
A metallic sphere from South Africa with three parallel grooves
around its equator (photo courtesy of Roelf Marx). The sphere was
found in a Precambrian mineral deposit,
I have a question that has bugged me for quite some time now and maybe one of
you would humor me with a simple explanation.
Do we have to consider the total energy required for a P + e to become a N to
have to arise out of a non active material? By this I refer to a material that
is not
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:35 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's Wikipedia's entry on the spheres:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klerksdorp_sphere
OOPAs!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-place_artifact
from Oompa Loompa!
T
I have been busy with a million things, such as the plumbing in my house.
In between, with help from Michele Comitini, I have spec'ed out some nice
MySQL database methods of accessing the library. Here is one:
http://lenr-canr.org/index/tabs/tabs.php
This has a lot of nice feature but
The grid of the future is no grid (existing grid will transistion to a hot
backup for some time)
Distributed power systems will prevail long term since fuel and electrical
distribution/transmission costs upkeep go towards zero $ and a
distributed system is much safer during war , solar flares,
A NiH reactor will dissipate any electric potential required to meet the
750K Ev constraint for P+E to N production as fast as it is formed. The
reactor walls are grounded and EMF will flow through the hydrogen plasma to
the grounded reactor walls.
W+L may happen in some systems but I can’t
Terry sez:
Here's Wikipedia's entry on the spheres:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klerksdorp_sphere
OOPAs!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-place_artifact
from Oompa Loompa!
Oompartifacts ... or perhaps Loompartifacts.
Actually, the latter sounds like the name of an Italian
Chemical Engineer cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
The grid of the future is no grid (existing grid will transistion to a hot
backup for some time)
That's what I said in my book, chapter 14. I discussed this with a lot of
power company and EPRI people. Abandoning the distribution network will
save a
The economy of scale says that one room sized CO2 supercritical electric
turbine is far more economical then 10 million sterling electric power
generators.
If you are a standalone survivalist, have the capital and the square
footage to install your own power system, then DGT may be the product
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The economy of scale says that one room sized CO2 supercritical electric
turbine is far more economical then 10 million sterling electric power
generators.
I doubt it. Not when you include the cost of the wires, substations, the
people who repair the wires
I believe that it was Jed that first made the comparison:
In the past ice (simple, frozen H2O) was delivered to businesses and homes.
Centralized production, then distribution made sense due to the technological
limitations of the time. Now that nearly every home in the developed world has
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/03/supercritical-carbon-dioxide-brayton.html
Take a look at the size comparison of CO2 unit verses steam. The steam
turbine is a quarter page and the CO2 turbine is the size of an exclamation
point at twice the capacity.
First the wires are all paid for and they
In the future, I think the industrial sector will become independent power
producers supplying all of their own needs and act as a backup for local
communities. Utility companies will become obsolete long term. I hope
LENR will be the boost that US manufacturing needs to cut costs, expand and
Jed,
That software reminds me of Dr. Seuss.
I know some new tricks, Said the Cat in the Hat. A lot of good
tricks. I will show them to you... look at me, look at me now! .
Great start, but the continuation is not so smooth!
mic
The US industrial sector is outsourcing absolutely everything they possibly
can, including entire industrial plants and oil refineries.
Electric utility companies might be obsolete in the UK because they are
outsourcing their electric power from French nuclear.
Germany will do the same when
A landlord/commercial building owner will be able to lease a new LENR
system for less monthly cost than he is currently paying for heating fuel
and electric. No brainer.
On Monday, February 20, 2012, Axil Axil wrote:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/03/supercritical-carbon-dioxide-brayton.html
Progress, I have moved you off the kilowatt sized unit to the megawatt
sized unit.
But with LENR, power will be so cheap; most people will buy a 1500 watt
electric heater at the local hardware store for $30 plug it into the wall
socket and skip the headache of being the own utility provider.
Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
That software reminds me of Dr. Seuss.
I know some new tricks, Said the Cat in the Hat. A lot of good
tricks. I will show them to you... look at me, look at me now! .
Great start, but the continuation is not so smooth!
Exactly.
- Jed
The key issue is that household electricity demand averages about
0.3-1.5kW, but can spike up to 10kW with aircon, ovens, hairdryers, clothes
dryers, toasters, kettles, lawnmowers, powertools etc. It is very hard to
make a system that can cover such a range efficiently or cheaply.
Currently even
Here is the story of the first modulated radio signals 100 years ago.
http://marconigraph.com/titanic/wireless/mgy_wireless.html
Before that the emission spectrum of the spark transmitter what that of
lightning and was dwarfed at interstellar distances by natural sources. After
the
If you were Rossi and were 1000% convinced that it's all good to go, and
you only needed another 12-18 months to start shipping, wouldn't you try to
keep everything under wraps and obfuscate where possible? There's nothing
to gain, and IP to lose, by giving even the slightest thing away. That's
After LENR, eLectricity, now virtually free will be exchanged like college
kids share torrents, afterall they are just electrons.
On Monday, February 20, 2012, Robert Lynn wrote:
The key issue is that household electricity demand averages about
0.3-1.5kW, but can spike up to 10kW with aircon,
Not sure where you are going with this - but the simple explanation of all
is it cannot happen, due to conservation of spin.
Two half-spin fermions cannot fuse to form a half-spin neutron. Otherwise
hydrogen would be unstable and spontaneously form neutrons.
From: David Roberson
This paper also supports my posit that catalytic action is based on changes in
Casimir force where equivalent acceleration felt by gas particles changes with
background geometry - like a bank of cylindrical capacitors On a shaker table
this momentum changing effect shears the leads off between
On 02/12/2012 10:33 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote:
I'll perform a power spectral density analysis of sunspot number/solar
activity data. If there's a 5.52 year cycle in solar activity,
it'll show up, along with the main 11 year cycle. I don't think
something that big can be easily overlooked,
but
I can trust technology to manage the constraints according to local
criteria.
in the 70s-80s i've seen the evolution of industrial food in france.
it get really nice today (whatever the local taliban says), and allow
people to focus on other subject (women work, kids, leisure)... if a
culture
I agree.
the grid will not die, but will change from a delivery grid to an exchange
grid.
for me it is like internet.
internet did nt kill the mainframe, but replaced it by servers that behave
like
big or small mainframes, providing different services, organized according
to the needs, but
also
The travesty of the existing grid is that only 25-45% of the fossil energy
produced in heat and elec. at the utility company ever makes it to the end
user. The rest goes out the stack/cooling tower/river or ocean water as
Polution to the environment
On Monday, February 20, 2012, Alain Sepeda
Impressive! You take this quite seriously Mauro.
This is actually a lot more complicated than it seems at first glance.
Probably because the 11 year cycle is not really exact, but the statistical
arguments are hard for me to follow. You have to wonder how accurate older
data is as well.
Is
Well if they use some kind of quantum entanglement transmission, how could we
eavesdrop on them ?
So far our RF cone extends 100 light years behind us ( 0
Quite a catch for a random alien in our galaxy to be at the receiving end,
anyway if by chance some random alien picked up our signal
don't forget the neutrino, that take away the half spin and the leptonic
number.
this reaction happens in some condition.
people interested in WL should read ALL their papers and slides, because
many critics here and on nextbigfuture are addressed.
the slides refers to many recognized resulst
you mix two lossed.
the thermodynamic cycles are the same for LENR, even worse for small units,
and lower temperature of reactors.
this is why bigger units might be more efficent that smaller.
the other lossed are transport losses.
but don't forget that in LENR the biggest cost is not fuel but
I am beginning to get the impression that you are not a fan of the Widom Larsen
theory. That is not a difficulty as far as I can determine since my question
is mainly an attempt to approach the problem from another point of view. It
seems that we are spending a lot of effort trying to figure
On 02/20/2012 10:29 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
Impressive! You take this quite seriously Mauro.
Not so seriously, really. I took it as an opportunity to learn new
things. And your hypothesis looked both interesting and appropriate.
This is actually a lot more complicated than it seems at
Problem fixed! I had to write-enable a folder. You would think the
documentation would say this. I should enable them all but I do not think
there is a way to do this through the cPanel.
A shout-out to Miroslaw Wydra for assistance with this.
I think I will add a few features such as Search
From: David Roberson
I am beginning to get the impression that you are not a fan
of the Widom Larsen theory.
Well - all of us on vortex would love to be able to focus on a consistent
theory that works. W-L theory seems to be a continuing waste of our time for
understanding
the thermodynamic cycles are the same for LENR
Yes they are the same Rankine cycle but the 65% excess heat energy
generated locally with LENR can be used to heat water, homes and factories
and in the summer maybe to run absorption chillers for extra cooling.
Also, DGT's reactor can cycle up 5 kW
To reiterate, the screens are here:
http://lenr-canr.org/index/tabs/tabs.php
Suggestions welcome.
I could add any number of features but I will resist the temptation. Keep
it simple.
I plan to modernize the rest of the screens. That is easy compared to
finding software to do this. Software
I believe that W=L theory proposes that LENR is initiated by strong
focusing of E-M fields on metal hydride surfaces. I may be
misunderstanding, but wouldn't activation energy loss be too small to
detect in the energy released?
I don't understand Jones Beenes' point.
If correct - how do neutrons
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
I believe that it was Jed that first made the comparison:
In the past ice (simple, frozen H2O) was delivered to businesses and
homes. Centralized production, then distribution made sense due to the
technological limitations of the time.
Too many points to address.
Perhaps, the Celani-Srivastava presentation at the March 22 CERN LENR
Colloquium will discuss them, since Srivastava is a proponent.
Jones Beene wrote:
Well - all of us on vortex would love to be able to focus on a consistent
theory that works. W-L theory seems
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:44:59 -0500:
Hi Jed,
[snip]
Perhaps the grid lines are the same colour as the background?
Michele Comitini michele.comit...@gmail.com wrote:
That software reminds me of Dr. Seuss.
I know some new tricks, Said the Cat in the Hat. A
NanoSpire, Inc. Successfully Harnesses Cavitation Zero Point Energy to
Produce Dramatic Levels of Fusion Transmutation In Water
press release:
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company website:
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-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
I don't understand Jones Beene's point.
If correct - how do neutrons decay into e-, p+ and neutrino?
Yes, that is correct - and spin is conserved on neutron decay. Since you are
going from a more massive neutron to a less massive
2012/2/19 Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com:
When you say the human population pressure would be reduced, what do you
mean?
Do you mean there would be fewer hungry people?
Yes, and if we could make animal food through chemical processing from CO2
and H2O then we wouldn't require as
Jones,
On your first point -
Electron Capture events [energy+p+e -- n+v] occur in the nucleus
and respect conservation laws. Are we sure they cannot also occur in
extremely energetic complex plasmons?
On your second point - Energy must come from somewhere.
The formulas in the two papers I
In February, 2004 Mark L. LeClair, CEO Founder of NanoSpire, Inc.,
discovered a crystalline form of water…
Produced by the enormous pressure of cavitation bubble collapse, *many of
the jets were seen to have facets* *and to possess tremendous electrostatic
charge.* The crystal has an
One more point...
Remember, in Single Bubble Sonoluminescence cavitation systems, I have
asserted here on vortex that the deep ultraviolet EMF that is produced is
caused by Rydberg atoms formed at or near the point of bubble collapse.
NanoSpire, Inc. has taken Rydberg material generation one
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