Re: [Vo]:Anomalous Thrust Production from an RF Test Device
no theory is proven, this hard to predict. Shawyer explains that CoE is respected, as CoM. if the thrust is used to accelerate the energy in the cavity is absorbed by doopler effect... I doubt on shawyer theory but this idea to conserve CoE seems a good basic, as CoE is based on some essential symmetry of physics over time. same for CoM like for LENR, if confirmed, I suspect it will be over simplification of CoM/CoE that are the error, not the symmetries. 2014-09-20 0:39 GMT+02:00 Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net: If this phenomenon is really true, it suggests a number of questions, e.g. : A reactionless thrust means that the power output could be very large since power = thrust * speed, and if the speed is high so is the power, so COP could be very big. Does the RF power needed increase as the speed increases? Speed with respect to what -- the ether? It would be trivial to make a self sustaining energy source if one of these was spinning or moving very fastly driving a generator for its own RF source. Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona US *From:* MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] *Sent:* Friday, September 19, 2014 8:55 AM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* [Vo]:Anomalous Thrust Production from an RF Test Device FYI: I know this kind of tech has been discussed by the Collective before, but here’s some recent results from NASA… http://www.libertariannews.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/AnomalousThrustProductionFromanRFTestDevice-BradyEtAl.pdf Excerpt from Abstract: “During the first (Cannae) portion of the campaign, approximately 40 micronewtons of thrust were observed in an RF resonant cavity test article excited at approximately 935 megahertz and 28 watts. During the subsequent (tapered cavity) portion of the campaign, approximately 91 micronewtons of thrust were observed in an RF resonant cavity test article excited at approximately 1933 megahertz and 17 watts. Testing was performed on a lowthrust torsion pendulum that is capable of detecting force at a single-digit micronewton level. Test campaign results indicate that the RF resonant cavity thruster design, which is unique as an electric propulsion device, is producing a force that is not attributable to any classical electromagnetic phenomenon and therefore is potentially demonstrating an interaction with the quantum vacuum virtual plasma.” -mark iverson -- http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
[Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
One interesting detail, in retrospect, about Yoshino/Mizuno's MIT presentation and the switch to nickel (from palladium) while keeping deuterium as the active gas may have been overlooked to date. Apologies- if this slant on the underlying reaction has appeared before. It is the copper connection. As we know, Focardi and Rossi believed that the E-Cat is/was transmuting nickel into copper by fusing with a proton. When one mentions a copper connection, seldom does Mizuno's amazing new work come to mind. However, all reactions of nickel with a proton result in a radioactive isotope with a half-life which is long enough for it to have been seen. This kind of hot isotope is not reported in any study of the Rossi reactor - but his proponents are hoping that the TIP2 report will find evidence of copper transmutation. The same kind of signature radioactivity is not true with deuterium as the active gas. In fact, the solution is so stunning - that we have to wonder if Rossi may be using deuterium as his secret ingredient. Terry will remember that in the very first image to come from Rossi, there was a color-coded tank of deuterium in the Lab. Apparently it was not intended to be noticed. When questioned about this later, Rossi glibly said the purpose of D was to stop the reaction if it got out of hand ! With this new information... well... you can be the judge of whether Rossi's excuse was ever true. Notably deuterium in never seen again... Nickel 58 is the most abundant isotope of element 28, and as recently mentioned is out-of-place in the periodic table, being lighter than any stable cobalt isotope, the element to the left. By itself, that factoid would be unique in that it only happens in one other place in the entire periodic table, where elements routinely increase in average amu, in step with z But wait there's more than relative lightness (putative receptivity to nucleon addition). Look at Copper-60 , the expected product of a deuteron fusing to Ni-58. Cu60 has a short half-life and decays back to Ni60 in minutes. It could escape detection in any reactor - so long as a reactor was not opened for a few hours, since all one would see is a nickel isotope which is expected to be there. The beta decay is fairly strong however. The biggest problem with this scenario could be conservation of spin. Ni58 is 0 spin, Cu60 is +2, and D is +1. A beta decay ostensibly does not solve that problem. But the chance of this being the gainful reaction in conjunction with nuclear spin-coupling as a predecessor is otherwise worth looking at ways to get around conservation of spin. This elegant possibility of a gainful reaction in which stable nickel converts to stable nickel, giving up energy, is why my prediction for the Mizuno presentation in November is to suggest that they will see a relative decrease in Ni58 and a relative increase in Ni60. The more intriguing idea is that Rossi has been using deuterium all along in his E-Cat, but the only time the secret almost got out was in the original demo ! Jones attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
One more thing to add ... wrt the overdue suggestion (Doh, slaps forehead) that Rossi's secret sauce is looking like it is deuterium. Thank you, Clean Planet. The reaction would probably work best if it is started with regular hydrogen, and then deuterium is added later. This is because the exchange reaction between hydrogen and deuterium itself is so robust. In fact, many of the early critics of LENR thought that the entire phenomenon could be related to deuterium exchange. It is that energetic. As we know, Rossi has this mysterious system - which he calls cat-and-mouse. He has been intentionally vague on how it functions. Yet in reappraisal, this system is fully consistent with having two chambers, the main one containing hydrogen and the nickel reactant - and the smaller one deuterium (or a mix of H and D). The metering response can be simply by voltage to a window, since deuterium will diffuse through many proton conductors in direct proportion to negative charge. Positive charge stops the diffusion, which is easily controllable by a sensor. The purpose of the small chamber (mouse) is to meter D into the main chamber at a controlled rate, to avoid a runaway. If Rossi can be believed, he suffered several runaways with the HotCat which we can imagine did not have this kind of metering device. This seems to fit into everything we know, so long as one ignores Rossi's own denial of using deuterium. But deuterium is the one thing which, if true - he would never admit to. That is, if Ni-D is indeed the essence of E-Cat, in the same way that the change from palladium to nickel could be the essence of the Mizuno reactor. Things just keep getting curiouser and curiouser... _ One interesting detail, in retrospect, about Yoshino/Mizuno's MIT presentation and the switch to nickel (from palladium) while keeping deuterium as the active gas may have been overlooked to date. Apologies- if this slant on the underlying reaction has appeared before. It is the copper connection. As we know, Focardi and Rossi believed that the E-Cat is/was transmuting nickel into copper by fusing with a proton. When one mentions a copper connection, seldom does Mizuno's amazing new work come to mind. However, all reactions of nickel with a proton result in a radioactive isotope with a half-life which is long enough for it to have been seen. This kind of hot isotope is not reported in any study of the Rossi reactor - but his proponents are hoping that the TIP2 report will find evidence of copper transmutation. The same kind of signature radioactivity is not true with deuterium as the active gas. In fact, the solution is so stunning - that we have to wonder if Rossi may be using deuterium as his secret ingredient. Terry will remember that in the very first image to come from Rossi, there was a color-coded tank of deuterium in the Lab. Apparently it was not intended to be noticed. When questioned about this later, Rossi glibly said the purpose of D was to stop the reaction if it got out of hand ! With this new information... well... you can be the judge of whether Rossi's excuse was ever true. Notably deuterium in never seen again... Nickel 58 is the most abundant isotope of element 28, and as recently mentioned is out-of-place in the periodic table, being lighter than any stable cobalt isotope, the element to the left. By itself, that factoid would be unique in that it only happens in one other place in the entire periodic table, where elements routinely increase in average amu, in step with z But wait there's more than relative lightness (putative receptivity to nucleon addition). Look at Copper-60 , the expected product of a deuteron fusing to Ni-58. Cu60 has a short half-life and decays back to Ni60 in minutes. It could escape detection in any reactor - so long as a reactor was not opened for a few hours, since all one would see is a nickel isotope which is expected to be there. The beta decay is fairly strong however. The biggest problem with this scenario could be conservation of spin. Ni58 is 0 spin, Cu60 is +2, and D is +1. A beta decay ostensibly does not solve that problem. But the chance of this being the gainful reaction in conjunction with nuclear spin-coupling as a predecessor is otherwise worth looking at ways to get around conservation of spin. This elegant possibility of a gainful reaction in which stable nickel converts to stable nickel, giving up energy, is why my prediction for the Mizuno presentation in November is to suggest that they will see a relative decrease in Ni58 and a relative increase in Ni60. The more intriguing idea is that Rossi has been using deuterium all along in his E-Cat, but the only time the secret almost got out was in the original demo ! Jones
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: However, all reactions of nickel with a proton result in a radioactive isotope with a half-life which is long enough for it to have been seen. This kind of hot isotope is not reported in any study of the Rossi reactor - but his proponents are hoping that the TIP2 report will find evidence of copper transmutation. I don't think anyone here has been advocating for proton capture for a while. Robin might still like the idea in connection with shrunken hydrogen, for in that case the ejected electron can fill in for the gamma and carry the momentum. I've personally run with the idea of proton capture in the past, but have stepped away from it. Perhaps you're referring to proponents in other forums? This elegant possibility of a gainful reaction in which stable nickel converts to stable nickel, giving up energy, is why my prediction for the Mizuno presentation in November is to suggest that they will see a relative decrease in Ni58 and a relative increase in Ni60. The nickel to nickel idea seems very promising. I doubt there is deuteron capture, because if there is deuteron capture, there is probably proton capture as well, along with all of the nasty gammas. This is what is leading me to deuterium stripping -- e.g., 60Ni(d,p)61Ni. Here the neutron is stripped off of the deuteron and added to the nickel, and the proton flies in the other direction, rather than there being a full capture. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: This elegant possibility of a gainful reaction in which stable nickel converts to stable nickel, giving up energy, is why my prediction for the Mizuno presentation in November is to suggest that they will see a relative decrease in Ni58 and a relative increase in Ni60. As an alternative prediction, if there is deuteron stripping rather than deuteron capture and then decay, one will see this: 58Ni + d → 59Ni + p 59Ni → 59Co + β+ ( 1 percent of the time) β+ + β- → 2ɣ Q (511 keV each) So there would be an excess of 59Co together with annihilation photons. The annihilation photons would be difficult to fully shield, although their rate is due to the half-life of the 59Ni decay and only indirectly tracks the rate of the reaction itself. Because the β+ decay rate is much smaller than any inferred reaction rate, the annihilation photons will only intermittently escape through the metal casing and make it into the detector, which has a relatively small aperture (compared to a full solid angle) and is less than 100 percent efficient (e.g., 26 percent efficient). With these things in mind, you wouldn't necessarily see annihilation photons above background. But the 59Co should increase significantly above its normal amount. The β+ decay occurs in only a very small number of cases. Most of the time (99 percent) the decay is via electron capture, a point I have missed up to now. So that will attenuate the expected number of annihilation photons in my models by two orders of magnitude. The decay, of course, is still to 59Co. Eric
RE: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
From: Eric Walker * This elegant possibility of a gainful reaction in which stable nickel converts to stable nickel, giving up energy, is why my prediction for the Mizuno presentation in November is to suggest that they will see a relative decrease in Ni58 and a relative increase in Ni60. * The nickel to nickel idea seems very promising. I doubt there is deuteron capture, because if there is deuteron capture, there is probably proton capture as well, along with all of the nasty gammas. This is what is leading me to deuterium stripping -- e.g., 60Ni(d,p)61Ni. Here the neutron is stripped off of the deuteron and added to the nickel, and the proton flies in the other direction, rather than there being a full capture. Eric Deuteron capture seems to be far and away the more likely scenario – at least more than proton capture for three reasons. First the deuteron is a boson, as is the nickel nucleus. This is not invoking a condensate state or even a pseudo BEC, it relates to simple QM probability/ nuclear tunneling probability. Note that stripping is closer to brute force thermodynamics, and unlikely to happen in condensed matter. Secondly, and most importantly - the neutron of the deuteron offers Coulomb shielding. This is related to isospin… I will allow Axil to elaborate on isospin since he first introduced it into the mix. Thirdly – the theory must reflect actual results. The main point of the previous post was to show that in the nuclear physics of Ni - Cu, there is apparently only one possibility which fits into the observation of 1)no radioactive debris and 2)no obvious transmutation product. 3)no gamma Jones
Re: [Vo]:A Stake in the Heart - a stunning revelation
It would be interesting to visit Rockwell with Jones Beene. I imagine the conversation would go something like this: Researcher showing equipment: Here is the main unit. The resolution is 0.1 parts per billion. Beene: You mean million. Researcher: No, billion. Now over here we have the cryogenic . . . Beene: That's not possible! You can't detect helium at ppb! You are mistaken. All these years you have been thinking it is billions, but it is actually millions . . . From there we might visit the Boeing assembly plant. Guide: Here is our latest airplane, the Dreamliner 787. She can carry up to 335 passengers at 593 mph. Beene: You mean 100 passengers at 200 mph. Guide: No, she carries a lot more than that. The seating is 9-abreast and . . . Beene: Nine-abreast?! That's not possible. No airplane can carry more than 100 passengers or go faster than 200 mph. It just isn't possible! You have been deceiving the public! . . . - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
You've certainly been consistent Jones. Quoting you from 2011: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction? Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net via eskimo.com 1/19/11 to vortex-l One detail worth exploring further was the statement from Rossi that only hydrogen works, and that deuterium kills the reaction ! That is counter-intuitive to say the least. Everyone in hot fusion knows for an absolute fact that deuterium is the more activenucleus, right? And everyone in LENR knows that deuterium and palladium work, whereas H2 is often used as the ‘control’ to show what doesn’t work. Go figure. Well, pondering this for a moment, the only possible property that comes to mind to explain it was posted a few days ago –the “composite boson” in the context of negative temperature. It is sounding better and better as a rationale. To rephrase, the complex argument goes like this. The heat anomaly, whether it is fusion or not depends on “pycno” or dense hydrogen clusters. Based on Lawandy’s paper and others, we see that spillover catalysts operate by splitting molecular hydrogen into atomic hydrogen without ionization. Dense hydrogen forms from atomic hydrogen if there are adjoiningdielectric surfaces or cavities. Atomic hydrogen is a composite boson. If there are internal defects (cavities) for atoms to accumulate, they somehow seem to densify there without ever going molecular. We know that H is a composite boson which is a singularity in nature – as it is composed of the minimum number of fermions (2) that permit both states to oscillate back and forth… and furthermore having this minimum number of quantum states to“align” (statistically) means that it is exponentially easier to condense than deuterium at so-called negative temperature (which are not “cold”) especially since spin can be aligned magnetically... Thanks to google books, we have access to an old issue of New Scientist from 1981. On p. 205-6 there is clear indication that we have known for nearly 30 years that hydrogen condensation can happen at cryogenic temperatures – i.e. that monatomic hydrogen is a composite boson independent of the molecular state - which has very unusual properties as a condensate. http://books.google.com/books?id=IbbMj56ht8sCpg=PA205lpg=PA205dq=composite-boson+monatomic-hydrogensource=blots=XlZyp6rE-9sig=AwMnZv-hCQzTfcbnkN2mQZ65VG0hl=enei=JFwaTab7Oon0tgPSpKjJCgsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=1sqi=2ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA#v=onepageqf=false This paper seems to have been largely forgotten, and offers no indication that “negative temperature” could provide an alternative to cryogenic temperature. And certainly no indication that the Casimir cavity can provide a locus for negative temperature. No one should be blamed at this juncture for being completely skeptical that negative temperature in a cavity can do this, even on a temporary time frame; and the only evidence of it today is the implication from half a dozen papers which indicate that so-called pycno-hydrogen exists (under many different names, even IRH or Inverse Rydberg Hydrogen). Rossi’s results are consistent with this modality, and Holmlid and Miley claim to have evidence of tiny bits of hydrogen a million times denser than liquid H2. Are they nuts too? Or is it all fitting together like a jigsaw puzzle?
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Terry will remember that in the very first image to come from Rossi, there was a color-coded tank of deuterium in the Lab. It might be in this vid: http://www.rainews.it/it/video.php?id=23074 The D2 gas might have been the one with the strips at the base of the valve. BTW, didn't someone once claim that the Cu probably came from migration. ;-)
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
strips = stripes On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Terry will remember that in the very first image to come from Rossi, there was a color-coded tank of deuterium in the Lab. It might be in this vid: http://www.rainews.it/it/video.php?id=23074 The D2 gas might have been the one with the strips at the base of the valve. BTW, didn't someone once claim that the Cu probably came from migration. ;-)
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
Single proton capture will not work because the spin of a single proton is non zero. Double proton capture will work because the spin of 2He is zero. Piantelli shows a 6 MeV proton coming out of a nickel bar. This implies that a proton pair entered the nickel nucleus: one to produce the 6 MeV via fusion of nickel into copper and one proton to exit the nucleus to remove that energy from the nucleus. Also, the large amount of iron reported in Rossi’s ash assay, requires a reaction involving two protons. The abundance of light elements in the DGT ash assay requires fusion of multiple proton pairs with nickel. It is a safe assumption that pairing of protons is occurring. I 1H+1H+62Ni = 63Zn + n + 1.974 MeV 1H+1H+62Ni = 64Zn + 13.835 MeV 1H+1H+62Ni = 63Cu + 1H + 6.122 MeV 1H+1H+62Ni = 60Ni + 4He + 9.879 MeV 1H+1H+62Ni = 4He + 4He + 56Fe + 3.495 MeV this one produces iron. 1H+1H+62Ni = 52Cr + 12C + 3.249 MeV 1H+1H+62Ni = 48Ti + 16O + 1.057 MeV 1H+1H+62Ni = 34S + 30Si + 2.197 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 65Ge + n + 10.750 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 66Ge + 24.037 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 63Ga + 3H + 4.007 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 64Ga + 2H + 8.108 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 65Ga + 1H + 17.778 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 61Zn + 5He + 7.372 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 62Zn + 4He + 21.156 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 63Zn + 3He + 9.692 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 59Cu + 7Li + 3.859 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 60Cu + 6Li + 6.667 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 61Cu + 5Li + 12.713 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 56Ni + 10Be + 3.707 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 57Ni + 9Be + 7.144 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 4He + 4He + 58Ni + 17.696 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 59Ni + 7Be + 7.795 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 60Ni + 6Be + 8.507 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 55Co + 11B + 7.769 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 56Co + 10B + 6.398 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 57Co + 9B + 9.338 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 52Fe + 14C + 7.721 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 53Fe + 13C + 10.230 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 54Fe + 12C + 18.662 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 55Fe + 11C + 9.239 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 56Fe + 10C + 7.316 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 51Mn + 15N + 10.550 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 52Mn + 14N + 10.252 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 53Mn + 13N + 11.752 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 54Mn + 12N + 0.627 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 48Cr + 18O + 6.010 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 49Cr + 17O + 8.549 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 50Cr + 16O + 17.406 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 51Cr + 15O + 11.003 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 52Cr + 14O + 9.819 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 47V + 19F + 5.899 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 48V + 18F + 6.011 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 49V + 17F + 8.415 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 50V + 16F + 0.951 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 44Ti + 22Ne + 7.983 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 45Ti + 21Ne + 7.147 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 46Ti + 20Ne + 13.575 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 47Ti + 19Ne + 5.591 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 48Ti + 18Ne + 5.580 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 41Sc + 25Na + 0.410 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 42Sc + 24Na + 2.949 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 43Sc + 23Na + 8.128 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 44Sc + 22Na + 5.408 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 45Sc + 21Na + 5.662 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 39Ca + 27Mg + 4.271 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 40Ca + 26Mg + 13.471 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 41Ca + 25Mg + 10.740 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 42Ca + 24Mg + 14.890 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 43Ca + 23Mg + 6.292 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 44Ca + 22Mg + 4.275 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 37K + 29Al + 5.425 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 38K + 28Al + 8.061 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 39K + 27Al + 13.413 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 40K + 26Al + 8.155 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 41K + 25Al + 6.885 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 34Ar + 32Si + 4.868 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 35Ar + 31Si + 8.406 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 36Ar + 30Si + 17.074 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 37Ar + 29Si + 15.252 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 38Ar + 28Si + 18.617 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 39Ar + 27Si + 8.036 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 40Ar + 26Si + 4.594 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 32Cl + 34P + 0.297 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 33Cl + 33P + 9.751 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 34Cl + 32P + 11.155 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 35Cl + 31P + 15.864 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 36Cl + 30P + 12.132 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 37Cl + 29P + 11.124 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 33S + 33S + 15.582 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 34S + 32S + 18.357 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 35S + 31S + 10.301 MeV 1H+1H+1H+1H+62Ni = 36S + 30S + 7.137 MeV The last 4 produce lighter elements. There are also similar reactions for the other Ni isotopes, and also for the daughter products of the initial reactions, e.g. :- 1H+1H+64Zn = 66Ge + 10.202 MeV 1H+1H+64Zn = 65Ga + 1H + 3.942 MeV 1H+1H+64Zn = 62Zn + 4He + 7.321 MeV 1H+1H+64Zn = 4He + 4He + 58Ni + 3.860 MeV 1H+1H+64Zn = 54Fe + 12C + 4.827 MeV 1H+1H+64Zn = 50Cr + 16O + 3.571 MeV 1H+1H+64Zn = 42Ca + 24Mg + 1.055 MeV 1H+1H+64Zn = 36Ar + 30Si + 3.239 MeV 1H+1H+64Zn = 37Ar + 29Si + 1.417 MeV 1H+1H+64Zn = 38Ar + 28Si + 4.782 MeV 1H+1H+64Zn = 35Cl + 31P + 2.029 MeV 1H+1H+64Zn = 33S + 33S + 1.746 MeV 1H+1H+64Zn = 34S + 32S + 4.522 MeV A polariton is a photon and an electron locked together in a pair. This pair orbits around a cavity on its edge. The spin of all polaritons are pointed such that the
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
Deuterium kills the reaction because its spin is non zero. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: You've certainly been consistent Jones. Quoting you from 2011: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction? Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net via eskimo.com 1/19/11 to vortex-l One detail worth exploring further was the statement from Rossi that only hydrogen works, and that deuterium kills the reaction ! That is counter-intuitive to say the least. Everyone in hot fusion knows for an absolute fact that deuterium is the more activenucleus, right? And everyone in LENR knows that deuterium and palladium work, whereas H2 is often used as the ‘control’ to show what doesn’t work. Go figure. Well, pondering this for a moment, the only possible property that comes to mind to explain it was posted a few days ago –the “composite boson” in the context of negative temperature. It is sounding better and better as a rationale. To rephrase, the complex argument goes like this. The heat anomaly, whether it is fusion or not depends on “pycno” or dense hydrogen clusters. Based on Lawandy’s paper and others, we see that spillover catalysts operate by splitting molecular hydrogen into atomic hydrogen without ionization. Dense hydrogen forms from atomic hydrogen if there are adjoiningdielectric surfaces or cavities. Atomic hydrogen is a composite boson. If there are internal defects (cavities) for atoms to accumulate, they somehow seem to densify there without ever going molecular. We know that H is a composite boson which is a singularity in nature – as it is composed of the minimum number of fermions (2) that permit both states to oscillate back and forth… and furthermore having this minimum number of quantum states to“align” (statistically) means that it is exponentially easier to condense than deuterium at so-called negative temperature (which are not “cold”) especially since spin can be aligned magnetically... Thanks to google books, we have access to an old issue of New Scientist from 1981. On p. 205-6 there is clear indication that we have known for nearly 30 years that hydrogen condensation can happen at cryogenic temperatures – i.e. that monatomic hydrogen is a composite boson independent of the molecular state - which has very unusual properties as a condensate. http://books.google.com/books?id=IbbMj56ht8sCpg=PA205lpg=PA205dq=composite-boson+monatomic-hydrogensource=blots=XlZyp6rE-9sig=AwMnZv-hCQzTfcbnkN2mQZ65VG0hl=enei=JFwaTab7Oon0tgPSpKjJCgsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=1sqi=2ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA#v=onepageqf=false This paper seems to have been largely forgotten, and offers no indication that “negative temperature” could provide an alternative to cryogenic temperature. And certainly no indication that the Casimir cavity can provide a locus for negative temperature. No one should be blamed at this juncture for being completely skeptical that negative temperature in a cavity can do this, even on a temporary time frame; and the only evidence of it today is the implication from half a dozen papers which indicate that so-called pycno-hydrogen exists (under many different names, even IRH or Inverse Rydberg Hydrogen). Rossi’s results are consistent with this modality, and Holmlid and Miley claim to have evidence of tiny bits of hydrogen a million times denser than liquid H2. Are they nuts too? Or is it all fitting together like a jigsaw puzzle?
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
This spin alignment of deuterium is why a plasma of hydrogen must be formed to produce hydrogen crystals where deuterium must be reconfigured to a zero spin alignment as the plasma cools. Adding deuterium gas from a tank as Rossi has done will provide non zero spin deuterium. It order for the deuterium to stay non zero spin, Rossi must disable the plasma forming electrical circuit before the Deuterium gas from the tank is added. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: You've certainly been consistent Jones. Quoting you from 2011: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction? Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net via eskimo.com 1/19/11 to vortex-l One detail worth exploring further was the statement from Rossi that only hydrogen works, and that deuterium kills the reaction ! That is counter-intuitive to say the least. Everyone in hot fusion knows for an absolute fact that deuterium is the more activenucleus, right? And everyone in LENR knows that deuterium and palladium work, whereas H2 is often used as the ‘control’ to show what doesn’t work. Go figure. Well, pondering this for a moment, the only possible property that comes to mind to explain it was posted a few days ago –the “composite boson” in the context of negative temperature. It is sounding better and better as a rationale. To rephrase, the complex argument goes like this. The heat anomaly, whether it is fusion or not depends on “pycno” or dense hydrogen clusters. Based on Lawandy’s paper and others, we see that spillover catalysts operate by splitting molecular hydrogen into atomic hydrogen without ionization. Dense hydrogen forms from atomic hydrogen if there are adjoiningdielectric surfaces or cavities. Atomic hydrogen is a composite boson. If there are internal defects (cavities) for atoms to accumulate, they somehow seem to densify there without ever going molecular. We know that H is a composite boson which is a singularity in nature – as it is composed of the minimum number of fermions (2) that permit both states to oscillate back and forth… and furthermore having this minimum number of quantum states to“align” (statistically) means that it is exponentially easier to condense than deuterium at so-called negative temperature (which are not “cold”) especially since spin can be aligned magnetically... Thanks to google books, we have access to an old issue of New Scientist from 1981. On p. 205-6 there is clear indication that we have known for nearly 30 years that hydrogen condensation can happen at cryogenic temperatures – i.e. that monatomic hydrogen is a composite boson independent of the molecular state - which has very unusual properties as a condensate. http://books.google.com/books?id=IbbMj56ht8sCpg=PA205lpg=PA205dq=composite-boson+monatomic-hydrogensource=blots=XlZyp6rE-9sig=AwMnZv-hCQzTfcbnkN2mQZ65VG0hl=enei=JFwaTab7Oon0tgPSpKjJCgsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=1sqi=2ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA#v=onepageqf=false This paper seems to have been largely forgotten, and offers no indication that “negative temperature” could provide an alternative to cryogenic temperature. And certainly no indication that the Casimir cavity can provide a locus for negative temperature. No one should be blamed at this juncture for being completely skeptical that negative temperature in a cavity can do this, even on a temporary time frame; and the only evidence of it today is the implication from half a dozen papers which indicate that so-called pycno-hydrogen exists (under many different names, even IRH or Inverse Rydberg Hydrogen). Rossi’s results are consistent with this modality, and Holmlid and Miley claim to have evidence of tiny bits of hydrogen a million times denser than liquid H2. Are they nuts too? Or is it all fitting together like a jigsaw puzzle?
RE: [Vo]:A Stake in the Heart - a stunning revelation
From: Jed Rothwell It would be interesting to visit Rockwell with Jones Beene. I imagine the conversation would go something like this: Researcher showing equipment: Here is the main unit. The resolution is 0.1 parts per billion. Beene: You mean million. Researcher: No, billion. Now over here we have the cryogenic . . . Beene: That's not possible! You can't detect mass at ppb with precision! If you could, you would know the mass of the proton to nine significant digits, correct? Researcher: uh… uh… well maybe we can some days, and maybe we can’t on others but we always get some helium. Beene: If you really believed your results indicated cold fusion, then you would be trying to put this technology into the B1 bomber, correct? Researcher: uh… uh… well no… that cold fusion is voodoo science, you know. Beene: Then where is the helium coming from? Researcher: Who knows. We always see a few ppb of it. That’s how we know we can detect a few ppb. Beene: Yes, I see. Then in your opinion the helium does not come from the fusion of deuterons? Researcher: Hell no! That’s voodoo science isn’t it? QED
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
One reason the Rossi requires high heat from external electric power input is to produce molecules with zero spin. He now uses the Mouse to make these special molecules. The down side of high heat that can form a plasma is that such application of heat can cause reactor-away. The Mouse was configured to produce zero spin hydrogen but because it has a pronounced sub-critical nature, it will not melt down no matter how much external heat is applied. The purpose of the Mouse is to produce Rydberg hydrogen matter with zero spin through a cooling plasma process. These solid crystals of hydrogen will then be feed from the Mouse to the Cat where the main near critical high COP reaction takes place using zero spin hydrogen. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This spin alignment of deuterium is why a plasma of hydrogen must be formed to produce hydrogen crystals where deuterium must be reconfigured to a zero spin alignment as the plasma cools. Adding deuterium gas from a tank as Rossi has done will provide non zero spin deuterium. It order for the deuterium to stay non zero spin, Rossi must disable the plasma forming electrical circuit before the Deuterium gas from the tank is added. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: You've certainly been consistent Jones. Quoting you from 2011: [Vo]:Deuterium kills the reaction? Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net via eskimo.com 1/19/11 to vortex-l One detail worth exploring further was the statement from Rossi that only hydrogen works, and that deuterium kills the reaction ! That is counter-intuitive to say the least. Everyone in hot fusion knows for an absolute fact that deuterium is the more activenucleus, right? And everyone in LENR knows that deuterium and palladium work, whereas H2 is often used as the ‘control’ to show what doesn’t work. Go figure. Well, pondering this for a moment, the only possible property that comes to mind to explain it was posted a few days ago –the “composite boson” in the context of negative temperature. It is sounding better and better as a rationale. To rephrase, the complex argument goes like this. The heat anomaly, whether it is fusion or not depends on “pycno” or dense hydrogen clusters. Based on Lawandy’s paper and others, we see that spillover catalysts operate by splitting molecular hydrogen into atomic hydrogen without ionization. Dense hydrogen forms from atomic hydrogen if there are adjoiningdielectric surfaces or cavities. Atomic hydrogen is a composite boson. If there are internal defects (cavities) for atoms to accumulate, they somehow seem to densify there without ever going molecular. We know that H is a composite boson which is a singularity in nature – as it is composed of the minimum number of fermions (2) that permit both states to oscillate back and forth… and furthermore having this minimum number of quantum states to“align” (statistically) means that it is exponentially easier to condense than deuterium at so-called negative temperature (which are not “cold”) especially since spin can be aligned magnetically... Thanks to google books, we have access to an old issue of New Scientist from 1981. On p. 205-6 there is clear indication that we have known for nearly 30 years that hydrogen condensation can happen at cryogenic temperatures – i.e. that monatomic hydrogen is a composite boson independent of the molecular state - which has very unusual properties as a condensate. http://books.google.com/books?id=IbbMj56ht8sCpg=PA205lpg=PA205dq=composite-boson+monatomic-hydrogensource=blots=XlZyp6rE-9sig=AwMnZv-hCQzTfcbnkN2mQZ65VG0hl=enei=JFwaTab7Oon0tgPSpKjJCgsa=Xoi=book_resultct=resultresnum=1sqi=2ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA#v=onepageqf=false This paper seems to have been largely forgotten, and offers no indication that “negative temperature” could provide an alternative to cryogenic temperature. And certainly no indication that the Casimir cavity can provide a locus for negative temperature. No one should be blamed at this juncture for being completely skeptical that negative temperature in a cavity can do this, even on a temporary time frame; and the only evidence of it today is the implication from half a dozen papers which indicate that so-called pycno-hydrogen exists (under many different names, even IRH or Inverse Rydberg Hydrogen). Rossi’s results are consistent with this modality, and Holmlid and Miley claim to have evidence of tiny bits of hydrogen a million times denser than liquid H2. Are they nuts too? Or is it all fitting together like a jigsaw puzzle?
[Vo]:3D printed car
World's first printed car from carbon fiber plastic pellets. It weighs 1500 lbs and contains fifty parts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV5FvZZiBf0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alj_36qFe5g Harry
RE: [Vo]:3D printed car
From Harry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV5FvZZiBf0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alj_36qFe5g Cool! We did predict this would happen. Printed housing is just around the corner too. Starting prices $18k to $30k - A tad steep, prototype prices. Too pricy for me, particularly for a two-seater with visually obvious stratification layers. On the plus side, the housing is made out of plastic. We mid-westerner Wisconsinites appreciate cars that don't rust due to all the salt they spread on the roads in the middle of winter. Hopefully economies of scale will eventually lower the entry level price to around $10k. That would give the Smart Car a run for its money. http://www.smartusa.com/ entry level: $12,490. or lease for $99/month Now, if The Doctor can corral his elusive little hydrinos within a year... that's likely to be another marriage made in heaven. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:18:40 -0700: Hi, [snip] The nickel to nickel idea seems very promising. I doubt there is deuteron capture, because if there is deuteron capture, there is probably proton capture as well, along with all of the nasty gammas. This is what is leading me to deuterium stripping -- e.g., 60Ni(d,p)61Ni. Here the neutron is stripped off of the deuteron and added to the nickel, and the proton flies in the other direction, rather than there being a full capture. Actually, I rather like this idea. It's much easier for a neutron to tunnel than for a proton, because the neutron has no Coulomb barrier opposing it. (Both the neutron and the proton however need to find 2.2 MeV to escape the deuterium nucleus, so parting is equally difficult for each.) Note also that a severely shrunken Deuterino will have a much higher chance of participating in such a reaction because it can get close to a target nucleus. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:3D printed car
They mentioned something about the printing of the printable portion of the car taking about a day. They said the printer cost $1M. The capital expense cost of the printable portion of the car is therefore about: 1e6usd*.12/year?usd/day http://www.testardi.com/rich/calchemy2/ ([1E6 * usd] * 0.12) / year ? usd / day = 328.76712 usd/day On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: From Harry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV5FvZZiBf0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alj_36qFe5g Cool! We did predict this would happen. Printed housing is just around the corner too. Starting prices $18k to $30k - A tad steep, prototype prices. Too pricy for me, particularly for a two-seater with visually obvious stratification layers. On the plus side, the housing is made out of plastic. We mid-westerner Wisconsinites appreciate cars that don't rust due to all the salt they spread on the roads in the middle of winter. Hopefully economies of scale will eventually lower the entry level price to around $10k. That would give the Smart Car a run for its money. http://www.smartusa.com/ entry level: $12,490. or lease for $99/month Now, if The Doctor can corral his elusive little hydrinos within a year... that's likely to be another marriage made in heaven. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:3D printed car
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Hopefully economies of scale will eventually lower the entry level price to around $10k. That would give the Smart Car a run for its money. Even 10k dollars feels steep for a car that was manufactured out of plastic with a 1 million dollar printer and assembled with minimal labor. Once this technology is more widespread, a company like Google will get irritated at the steep markup and begin to look into what it would take to offer them at 2-4k. Note that cheaper cars means more drivers and more fuel consumption. Perhaps there are not enough people in absolute terms that fit that demographic in North America and Europe to matter. But there could be plenty in China, India and Africa in the medium term. European cities were largely in place before cars came along, and they have pleasant, dense city centers and viable mass transportation. North American cities came along just as cars were being widely adopted, and they are spread out and unattractive for that reason. In many European cities you can get along just fine without a car for much of the time. In many North American cities you pretty much need a car, and viable mass transit is hard to put in place because the population density is fairly low. Eric
Re: [Vo]:He4 Energy Totals Damning of Mills?
Gordon Docherty has posted a theory reconciling hydrinos with cold fusion: A Refinement of Ideas: Hydrinos and LENR existing in Perfect Harmony http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/02/hydrinos-and-lenr-existing-in-perfect-harmony-guest-post/ How does his compare to yours, Robin? Also Ed Storms had a theory in his penultimate book: Storms, Edmund (2007). Science of low energy nuclear reaction: a comprehensive compilation of evidence and explanations. Singapore: World Scientific. p. 184. ISBN 981-270-620-8. I don't have his book nor do I have a link to an online version of the cited theory from page 184. Are you familiar with Ed Storms's theory reconciling hydrinos with cold fusion? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to James Bowery's message of Fri, 19 Sep 2014 11:27:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] Since hydrino.org is dead as a discussion group (it just redirects to BLP's site) is there a forum where people are still talking about GUToCP etc.? societyforclassicalphys...@yahoogroups.com This is a moderated group, Mills himself follows it and responds to questions. I would characterize it more as a fan club. I get the impression that if the question is too critical, Mills will just refer to a section of his book. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
This hang-up on neutrons and 4He is due to this irresistible indoctrination from old time nuclear physics. Rossi states that he has never seen a neutron. 4He is just as likely to transmute as any other element. 4He has no special status in LENR, IMHO. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 6:47 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:18:40 -0700: Hi, [snip] The nickel to nickel idea seems very promising. I doubt there is deuteron capture, because if there is deuteron capture, there is probably proton capture as well, along with all of the nasty gammas. This is what is leading me to deuterium stripping -- e.g., 60Ni(d,p)61Ni. Here the neutron is stripped off of the deuteron and added to the nickel, and the proton flies in the other direction, rather than there being a full capture. Actually, I rather like this idea. It's much easier for a neutron to tunnel than for a proton, because the neutron has no Coulomb barrier opposing it. (Both the neutron and the proton however need to find 2.2 MeV to escape the deuterium nucleus, so parting is equally difficult for each.) Note also that a severely shrunken Deuterino will have a much higher chance of participating in such a reaction because it can get close to a target nucleus. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:He4 Energy Totals Damning of Mills?
The best I've found online of Storms's, apparently now abandoned, view of cold fusion as hydrino-based: An Interview with Dr. Edmund Storms Author of The Science of Low Energy Nuclear Reaction http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RudesillJanintervie.pdf Its basically just hydrinos form, look like slow neutrons and make it past the coulombic barrier -- not specifying the Rydberg state required to look like a neutron nor how it is catalyzed in a solid -- merely that it _is_ in a solid that it is catalyzed, hence explains Mills's missing the explanation as Mills has been working primarily with non-condensed matter. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 6:12 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Gordon Docherty has posted a theory reconciling hydrinos with cold fusion: A Refinement of Ideas: Hydrinos and LENR existing in Perfect Harmony http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/02/hydrinos-and-lenr-existing-in-perfect-harmony-guest-post/ How does his compare to yours, Robin? Also Ed Storms had a theory in his penultimate book: Storms, Edmund (2007). Science of low energy nuclear reaction: a comprehensive compilation of evidence and explanations. Singapore: World Scientific. p. 184. ISBN 981-270-620-8. I don't have his book nor do I have a link to an online version of the cited theory from page 184. Are you familiar with Ed Storms's theory reconciling hydrinos with cold fusion? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to James Bowery's message of Fri, 19 Sep 2014 11:27:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] Since hydrino.org is dead as a discussion group (it just redirects to BLP's site) is there a forum where people are still talking about GUToCP etc.? societyforclassicalphys...@yahoogroups.com This is a moderated group, Mills himself follows it and responds to questions. I would characterize it more as a fan club. I get the impression that if the question is too critical, Mills will just refer to a section of his book. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This hang-up on neutrons and 4He is due to this irresistible indoctrination from old time nuclear physics. Rossi states that he has never seen a neutron. 4He is just as likely to transmute as any other element. 4He has no special status in LENR, IMHO. I think you've missed some context. There's no reference to 4He in the thread at this point. We're talking about NiH/D. The reference to neutrons does not relate to free neutrons flying around and activating things. It has to do with bound neutrons being stripped off of deuterons. Rossi says what he says. And he places a boron shield around the E-Cat, apparently. Eric
Re: [Vo]:He4 Energy Totals Damning of Mills?
In reply to James Bowery's message of Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:12:38 -0500: Hi, [snip] Gordon Docherty has posted a theory reconciling hydrinos with cold fusion: A Refinement of Ideas: Hydrinos and LENR existing in Perfect Harmony http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/02/hydrinos-and-lenr-existing-in-perfect-harmony-guest-post/ How does his compare to yours, Robin? The author appears to have been reading Fran's posts to this forum. I suggest that you put your question to Fran. As I have said in the past, I don't put much faith in the Casimir cavity hypothesis for a very simple reason. The amount of change in the density of space-time in a nm cavity is trivial percentage wise, because it's the long waves being excluded, not the short ones. The Casimir force doesn't become really significant until you reach nuclear dimensions, by which time it approximates the nuclear force (IIRC). In fact I have often wondered if it might actually be the force that binds nuclei together. Also Ed Storms had a theory in his penultimate book: Storms, Edmund (2007). Science of low energy nuclear reaction: a comprehensive compilation of evidence and explanations. Singapore: World Scientific. p. 184. ISBN 981-270-620-8. I don't have his book nor do I have a link to an online version of the cited theory from page 184. Are you familiar with Ed Storms's theory reconciling hydrinos with cold fusion? I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that my contributions to this forum were largely responsible for it. Ed can contradict me if he wishes. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:3D printed car
With self driving smart cars, I can see people subscribing to taxi service instead of a owning a car. harry On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Hopefully economies of scale will eventually lower the entry level price to around $10k. That would give the Smart Car a run for its money. Even 10k dollars feels steep for a car that was manufactured out of plastic with a 1 million dollar printer and assembled with minimal labor. Once this technology is more widespread, a company like Google will get irritated at the steep markup and begin to look into what it would take to offer them at 2-4k. Note that cheaper cars means more drivers and more fuel consumption. Perhaps there are not enough people in absolute terms that fit that demographic in North America and Europe to matter. But there could be plenty in China, India and Africa in the medium term. European cities were largely in place before cars came along, and they have pleasant, dense city centers and viable mass transportation. North American cities came along just as cars were being widely adopted, and they are spread out and unattractive for that reason. In many European cities you can get along just fine without a car for much of the time. In many North American cities you pretty much need a car, and viable mass transit is hard to put in place because the population density is fairly low. Eric
Re: [Vo]:He4 Energy Totals Damning of Mills?
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1303.1027v1.pdf Dymamical Casimir emission from polariton condensates The nature of the vacuum is drastically changed in the presence of a polariton condensate leading to increased dynamical Casimir emission One of the tenets of my theory that produces accelerated nuclear decay rates postulates that the rate of virtual particle production is greatly enhanced in the polariton excited vacuum *We study theoretically the dynamical Casimir effect in an exciton-polariton condensate that is suddenly created by an ultrashort laser pulse at normal incidence. As a consequence of the abrupt change of the quantum vacuum, Bogoliubov excitations are generated. The subsequent evolution, governed by polariton interactions and losses, is studied within a linearized truncated Wigner approximation. We focus in particular on the momentum distribution and spatial coherence.* *The limiting behavior at large and small momenta is determined analytically. * *A simple scaling relation for the final condensate depletion as a function of the system parameters is found and the correlation length is shown to depend linearly on the condensate depletion. * Bogoliubov excitations are broken positron/electron virtual pairs that are the basis of Hawking radiation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation and many other topics On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 7:38 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to James Bowery's message of Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:12:38 -0500: Hi, [snip] Gordon Docherty has posted a theory reconciling hydrinos with cold fusion: A Refinement of Ideas: Hydrinos and LENR existing in Perfect Harmony http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/02/hydrinos-and-lenr-existing-in-perfect-harmony-guest-post/ How does his compare to yours, Robin? The author appears to have been reading Fran's posts to this forum. I suggest that you put your question to Fran. As I have said in the past, I don't put much faith in the Casimir cavity hypothesis for a very simple reason. The amount of change in the density of space-time in a nm cavity is trivial percentage wise, because it's the long waves being excluded, not the short ones. The Casimir force doesn't become really significant until you reach nuclear dimensions, by which time it approximates the nuclear force (IIRC). In fact I have often wondered if it might actually be the force that binds nuclei together. Also Ed Storms had a theory in his penultimate book: Storms, Edmund (2007). Science of low energy nuclear reaction: a comprehensive compilation of evidence and explanations. Singapore: World Scientific. p. 184. ISBN 981-270-620-8. I don't have his book nor do I have a link to an online version of the cited theory from page 184. Are you familiar with Ed Storms's theory reconciling hydrinos with cold fusion? I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that my contributions to this forum were largely responsible for it. Ed can contradict me if he wishes. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Anomalous Thrust Production from an RF Test Device
In reply to Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.'s message of Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:39:56 -0700: Hi, [snip] If this phenomenon is really true, it suggests a number of questions, e.g. : A reactionless thrust means that the power output could be very large since power = thrust * speed, and if the speed is high so is the power, so COP could be very big. I think you have this backwards. What it means is that in order to attain high speed, you need to *supply* high power. ...however as LENR/Blacklight come online, that may not be a problem. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:He4 Energy Totals Damning of Mills?
Russ George of Planktos fame has blogged his ideas about hydrino-based cold fusion in an entry titled HYDRINO DARK FUSION ? http://atom-ecology.russgeorge.net/2014/07/14/hydrino-fusion/ An excerpt: I chatted with Randy years ago at a physics conference and we exchanged some ideas on how the hydrino state of deuterium might facilitate a sort of hydrino moderated dark fusion of two deuteriums, perhaps via something akin to a screening mechanism and just maybe there-in is a connecting thread between our work. But how one gets two protons to fuse even in the strange states characteristic of cold fusion is a stretch for me, that qualify as dark fusion for sure. The central question between cold fusion and hydrinos becoming dark matter is the resulting energy. Hydrino production is an order of magnitude or more energetic than burning hydrogen while DD fusion yielding 4He, hot or cold, is about ten million times more energetic that burning hydrogen (or deuterium). So if one needs a source of energy sufficient to produce a bit of star-like plasma you need around a million times the number of hydrino events as DD cold fusion events to do so. At least we are not astronomically far apart. I tend to think that the 1 atom of D for every 5000+ atoms of H that are found in common hydrogen is the real active constituent of “light” hydrogen NiH fusion or LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions) for those who are afraid of the ghost of Martin Fleischman or are merely his ‘cold fusion’ usurpers. It’s easier to imagine hydrinos than proton proton fusion. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to James Bowery's message of Fri, 19 Sep 2014 11:27:17 -0500: Hi, [snip] Since hydrino.org is dead as a discussion group (it just redirects to BLP's site) is there a forum where people are still talking about GUToCP etc.? societyforclassicalphys...@yahoogroups.com This is a moderated group, Mills himself follows it and responds to questions. I would characterize it more as a fan club. I get the impression that if the question is too critical, Mills will just refer to a section of his book. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
If hydrinos and deuterinos are both present, perhaps it is possible for the neutron stripping to work in two directions such that a deuterino can give up a neutron to a heavy nucleus and a heavy nucleus can give up a neutron to hydrino. ( I am thinking of a nuclear version of epicatalysis.) Harry On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This hang-up on neutrons and 4He is due to this irresistible indoctrination from old time nuclear physics. Rossi states that he has never seen a neutron. 4He is just as likely to transmute as any other element. 4He has no special status in LENR, IMHO. I think you've missed some context. There's no reference to 4He in the thread at this point. We're talking about NiH/D. The reference to neutrons does not relate to free neutrons flying around and activating things. It has to do with bound neutrons being stripped off of deuterons. Rossi says what he says. And he places a boron shield around the E-Cat, apparently. Eric
RE: [Vo]:3D printed car
Who knows what will happen. $2K cars? Tiny small single-seater vehicles for commuters to drive to work or to the grocery store. Self driving cars? Yea, very likely too. Transportation will evolve. Collectively, we will determine the best course of action. Very few individuals on their own have the capacity to predict what will eventually happen. The unpredictable collective principals of emergence will drive this one, not any single individual. Perhaps a little bit of synchronicity will play mysteriously into the mixture as well. For example... Years ago I was visiting Portland. While there I went into Powells Bookstore. I was wandering aimlessly down a dark isle my hand reached out for a book. I'm not sure what it was about this book that initially caught my eye. However, when I picked it out I noticed the author had spent some time studying the social behavior of ants. He spent some time studying these creature because he was researching the rules of emergence and how those rules play out within complex societies. The mysterious rules of emergence work with all kinds of living creature from all scales, from brain cells, insects, all the way up to humans crammed within a city environment. The subject of ants combined with the concept of emergence piqued my interest. I recalled as a young teenager I had studied the hive minded behavior of social insects - like ants. I managed several ant farms which included the queen. Sometimes I spent hours watching the collective behavior of these creatures with a powerful magnifying glass. Returning back to the present I was curious as to who the author was. Was it anyone I knew? Here is the author talking about his book on emergence at a TED talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/steven_johnson_on_the_web_as_a_city?language=en Other than the fact that I could not rid myself of a feeling that the equally mysterious rules of synchronicity had perhaps played an amusing game with my psyche, the author bares no relation with me whatsoever. Granted, I realize I'm anthropomorphizing the behavior of the Universe. But what the hell. The universe plays tricks with me all the time. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Mizuno, Rossi copper transmutation
In reply to H Veeder's message of Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:53:37 -0400: Hi, [snip] If hydrinos and deuterinos are both present, perhaps it is possible for the neutron stripping to work in two directions such that a deuterino can give up a neutron to a heavy nucleus and a heavy nucleus can give up a neutron to hydrino. ( I am thinking of a nuclear version of epicatalysis.) Harry A heavy nucleus won't give up a neutron to a Hydrino, because in doing so it would lose about 5-10 MeV, but only gain 2.2 MeV from the formation of the deuteron. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html