On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
What's your best-guess as to the age of the Universe?
***My best guess is 16Billion years. And it is also 6days old. It depends
upon your relativistic perspective.
I'm a creationist, and even
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
Alas, an Amazon copy is around $32. I actually toyed with the idea of buying
a copy and shipping it to you, but at the moment I really need to focus on
some personal expenses.
No need. Watch
The evidence only proves that you failed. You failed to stimulate
macro-evolution. Can it be stimulated?
From: jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 09:48:18 +0800
Well, we have conducted evolution experiments
: Jojo Iznart [mailto:jojoiznar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:47 PM
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Actually, reproduction by cellular mitosis would favor evolution. If
Macro-evolution is occuring, cellular mitosis should prove it quickly. Why
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From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:44 PM
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Thanks for giving me a specific time-frame within the you tube link to fast
forward to. Right now I don't have the time
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From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Thanks for giving me a specific time-frame within the you tube link to fast
forward to. Right now I don't have the time to wade
as to the age of the Universe?
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
From: Jojo Iznart [mailto:jojoiznar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:10 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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I believe in the Bible
From: Jojo
Do you have a free copy of this Forbidden Archeology book.
The Bible teaches us to hear (eaxmine) the matter before asnswering
(concluding) it. So, I'd like to read this on my spare time if I have
access to a free copy. I am not willing to pay for one.
Alas, an
Is somebody interested in a documented discussion about:
Use and abuse of the comma in the sanskrit poetry of the 13-th Century
B.C.?
There are 13,289 forums specialized in Evolution vs. Involution
Peter
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
One reason why JoJo's
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From: Jed Rothwell
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:51 AM
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Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here:
I have a simple question:
1. What
- Steven Vincent Johnson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
From Jojo
By Darwinian Evolution - I mean Macro-Evolution of one species (One kind)
turning into another species (another kind). I do not mean
]:Evolutionists As Idiots
One reason why JoJo's systems do not work is that he spends a great deal of
time posting and not enough experimenting. He expects other people to do his
work for him.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest
around the Axil about...
Jojo
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*From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2014 11:42 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
One reason why JoJo's systems do not work is that he spends a great
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Jojo, I'm a genuine evolutionist. I don't pick and choose when to turn on
and off my intellectual integrity regarding evolution. One thing my theory
tells me is that you, like so many others who
: jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:27:46 +0800
Baloney, if you know the subject as you claim,
and there are thousands of books; then it should not be a problem for you to
give me ONE example.
Just one example
Lots of microevolution and adaptation does not result in Macro-evolution
(change of species/kind). This distinction is important.
How do you know that? And why must you maintain this distinction? Why is it
important for you to keep them separate. I don't. What for?
Have you measured all
Just show me one example of a species turning to another species.
On what time scale are we talking here?
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks
@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:27 PM
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I really don't know if new diseases counts as an example of evolution to
you,
but a quick search came up with this
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK45714/
A weird example of this I suppose
- Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Just show me one example of a species turning to another species.
On what time scale are we talking here?
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Lots of microevolution and adaptation does not result in Macro-evolution
(change of species/kind). This distinction is important.
How do you know that? And why must you maintain
me know and I'll shut up about Darwinian Evolution forever.
Jojo
- Original Message - From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:28 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Lots
I gave up on Creationism for various reasons. One central reason is the
profound lack of any ethical or moral background in creation. This is
inconsistent with the idea of a personal God but entirely what should be
expected from evolution. Nature red in tooth and claw.
Christians are too
suggestion.
/Sunil
From: jojoiznar...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:27:46 +0800
Baloney, if you know the subject as you claim, and there are thousands of
books; then it should not be a problem for you to give me ONE example
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From: Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 8:27 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
I really don't know if new diseases counts as an example of
evolution to you,
but a quick search came up with this
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation
harry
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/2011/12/18/evolution-watching-speciation-occur-observations/
The above reports an example of a new species that emerged in modern times that
can no longer reproduce with its parent species. Thus, we have an unambiguous
example of macro
: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Correct me if I am wrong Jojo, but I suspect you are looking for a case where
a beginning species evolves into a second species that can no longer share
genes with the original mother species, but can reproduce among its new members.
My first thoughts were
From Jojo:
Well, science is supposed to be observable and repeatable. That implies
a timeframe within our lifetimes. If you can not satisfy these 2 criteria,
it's
not science, let alone settled science that Darwinists would like you to
believe.
I think I see where the confusion
, not
demonstrate a Macro-Evolution event.
I do not believe this reproduction criteria is valid.
Jojo
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*From:* David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
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*Sent:* Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:21 AM
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, August 27, 2014 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
From Jojo:
Well, science is supposed to be observable and repeatable. That implies
a timeframe within our lifetimes. If you can not satisfy these 2 criteria,
it's
not science, let alone settled science
This is how I know I am winning the argument. When people resort to mockery
and insults.
But, my friend, have at it.
Jojo
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From: CB Sites
To: vortex-l
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
Jojo says
From: Jojo
Well, we have conducted evolution experiments in the lab where we
subjected bacteria to artificial stress to stimulate macro-evolution.
These accelerated trials would be the equivalent of millions of years
of natural selection. And yet, what did we find? We find that the
, 2014 10:18 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
From: Jojo
Well, we have conducted evolution experiments in the lab where we
subjected bacteria to artificial stress to stimulate macro-evolution.
These accelerated trials would be the equivalent of millions of years
Evolutionists -- or perhaps I should call them pseudo-evolutionists
believe that humans, unique among life forms, exhibit behavior not from
biological evolution but from cultural determinism.
Oh, yes, I know they'll deny it when I put it that way but when it comes to
public policy the gaping
James B.
I hope I understand what you are saying. There are biological reasons for
our behavior and it is hard to replace them with some cultural etiquette.
If that is what you said then I agree with you. I also believe this kind of
believe is accentuated by our school system and our most
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Evolutionists -- or perhaps I should call them pseudo-evolutionists
believe that humans, unique among life forms, exhibit behavior not from
biological evolution but from cultural determinism.
I have no idea who or what your are talking about here, and I
You obviously weren't around Harvard when Gould and Lewontin went on their
rampage against Wilson over sociobiology.
You're out of touch with the facts on the ground in academia with regards
to the social sciences.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here:
I have a simple question:
1. What is your best evidence of Darwinian Evolution occuring?
By Darwinian Evolution - I mean Macro-Evolution of one species (One kind)
turning into another species (another kind). I do not mean micro-evolution
From Jojo
By Darwinian Evolution - I mean Macro-Evolution of one species (One kind)
turning into another species (another kind). I do not mean micro-evolution
(aka variation, aka adaptation.) I know micro-evolution occurs. I want
macro-evolution demonstrated and observed. Please
Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here:
I have a simple question:
1. What is your best evidence of Darwinian Evolution occuring?
There are thousands of books full of irrefutable proof that Darwinian
evolution is occurring. For you, or
Jojo, I'm a genuine evolutionist. I don't pick and choose when to turn on
and off my intellectual integrity regarding evolution. One thing my theory
tells me is that you, like so many others who are irrationally religous,
are doing what is necessary to survive in the hell hole that has been
I think all of us, including the universe are creating every day, evolving
every day and dying a little each day.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:24 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Jojo, I'm a genuine evolutionist. I don't pick and choose when to turn on
and off my intellectual
One reason why JoJo's systems do not work is that he spends a great deal of
time posting and not enough experimenting. He expects other people to do
his work for him.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote:
To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists
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