On Feb 6, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Rich Murray wrote:
I just posted this comment on 22passi.blogspot.com
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I am Rich Murray, rmfor...@gmail.com , and have suggested Feb. 5 and 6
that the Rossi device may have internal leaks
Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote:
If conducting paths start to open up within the cell from the heater
electric power input, they will evolved and expand complexly. The H2
that Rossi thinks is being absorbed into the Ni nanopowder may in part
be leaking into the coolant water output . .
Greetings Vortex,
I still cannot believe that Clorox acquired Burts Bees Wax for
925 million. I tried to find some lower numbers, none were found. Will keep
looking..it is so incredible.
Rob Duncan was supposed to give one of the keynote addresses. Unfortunately,
the blizzard in the U.S. shut down Chicago and he was unable to come. He
e-mailed his comments and they were read by Melich. They were excellent. I
hope to get a copy soon. Anyway, one thing he said was that the heat in
Well, Horace, there were a series of spikes on the input electric
power record in Test 1 on Dec. 16.
And in Test 2 on Jan. 14, a catastrophic welding failure on a
heating resister...
In science, experimenters largely find only what they make an effort to find.
Leaks and resulting shorts could
Thanks to Jed for the update. There are lots of Monday morning quarterbacks
around today, so hopefully a few serious ones, with expertise in a very
narrow field have focused on saving-the-world from OPEC, instead of a hyped
up game that only fan-boys will remember next week. (apologies to
At 08:28 PM 2/6/2011, Harry Veeder wrote:
Based on this google translation it seems the
Italian Committee Against the Claims of the
Paranormal is seeking to discredit Rossi et al.
At 09:27 PM 2/6/2011, Rich Murray wrote:
I am Rich Murray, rmfor...@gmail.com , and have suggested Feb. 5 and 6
that the Rossi device may have internal leaks that cause the electric
heater to short out to the output water, electrolyzing water into
hydrogen and oxygen in the cell and messing up
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Tritium and excess heat, according to Storms, are not well-correlated.
I believe they are anti-correlated. Today, some people suggested that
tritium may be the product of electrochemical cold fusion with a mixture of
light and heavy water. That
Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote:
Based on this google translation it seems the Italian Committee Against the
Claims of the Paranormal is seeking to discredit Rossi et al.
That's hysterical. Rossi is a strange fellow but nothing about him strikes
me as Paranormal.
This is like hiring a
* Bottom line: what signature, even if fully known, could be so revealing
that it would really matter for a patent which is already filed?
OK - delayed flash of the old memory banks .
. yes, there is one detail from the recent past that does come to mind,
which might show up as
Rich Murray to little, vortex-l, michael, Rich, Sterling
8:12 AM (1 hour ago)
Well, Horace, there were a series of spikes on the input electric
power record in Test 1 on Dec. 16.
And in Test 2 on Jan. 14, a catastrophic welding failure on a
heating resister...
In science, experimenters largely
I would SO love to get a spectrum to analyse - along with detector details,
of course. I really think that would tell a better story.
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Ø Bottom line: what signature, even if fully known, could be so
revealing that it
At 08:58 AM 2/7/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Celani's description of the demo was more critical than his
discussion with me, yesterday. He was quite upset that they did not
let him make nuclear measurements, and I suspect that has colored
his thinking. Rossi told him we can't let you take a gamma
At 08:00 AM 2/7/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Rich Murray mailto:rmfor...@gmail.comrmfor...@gmail.com wrote:
If conducting paths start to open up within the cell from the heater
electric power input, they will evolved and expand complexly. The H2
that Rossi thinks is being absorbed into the Ni
Rossi has posted that the secret is protected against loss or suppression...
I haven't been focused only on large amounts of H2 being leaked, as a
tiny leak could still wreck havok at 80 bar and 100s of degrees C,
for hours, days, weeks, months...
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Abd ul-Rahman
At 08:43 AM 2/7/2011, Ron Kita wrote:
Greetings Vortex,
I still cannot believe that Clorox acquired Burts Bees Wax for
925 million. I tried to find some lower numbers, none were found.
Will keep looking..it is so incredible.
From http://www.prlog.org/11277508-qed-induced-cold-fusion-in-italy.html
QED Induced Cold Fusion in Italy
Recent cold fusion experiments at the University of Bologna suggesting cold
fusion is produced from electrically heated nickel powder under pressurized
hydrogen gas is consistent with QED
From: albedo5
I would SO love to get a spectrum to analyse - along with detector details,
of course. I really think that would tell a better story.
One thing which might be helpful for future analysis, or in any experiment
to confirm Rossi, even without his assistance - is to compile
At 12:09 PM 2/7/2011, Rich Murray wrote:
I want to be wrong, but all doubts have to be candidly explored in
this very important scientific debate, in which Rossi at least could
share critical details with some independent scientists of repute who
can be trusted with secrets.
There is no
From: The Hindu - Science and Technology section
Call for inter-disciplinary studies in ‘cold fusion'
See:
http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/article1165494.ece
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
The first conclusion in Prevenslik’s press release refers to COE of absorbed EM
energy by “up conversion” of QED photons inside nano structures instead of
temperature increase. I think this supports my relativistic interpretation of
Casimir effect. These QED photons that he refers to as being
Correction of prior information:
Americium is THE prime candidate so far, if it should turn out that the
Rossi reactor has been 'seeded' with an isotope emitter which serves to
stimulate a cascade of QED enhanced nuclear reactions which then effectively
convert nickel to copper.
Here is
Abd:
You stated:
Right now, the Rossi device is a Black Box, with two apparent inputs:
electrical power, as a supposedly measured level, and water,
Did you forget the hydrogen? At least I would consider it an input since it is
not entirely
contained within the reactor. I.e., there is an
SUBJECT: Group seeks to discredit Rossi
From Abd:
...
But I will note a generic way to fake Rossi's
work, others have proposed other possibilities,
and, if it's fake, the truth might even be a
hybrid. I have no doubt but that it could be
done, that even more convincing demonstrations
I posted a comment wondering why Krivit hasn't mentioned the Storms
review, published in Naturwissenschaften last October, Status of
cold fusion (2010), and hasn't listed the paper on his Recent papers
page, in spite of it being, arguably, the most significant paper
published in the field in
Abd...
I think you haven't been following this as closely as the active
contributors... Perhaps your time
is limited and you have not been able to read all the postings...
What did Rossi hope to accomplish by the demonstration? My suspicion is, he
got exactly what he
wanted. Lots of publicity,
On 02/07/2011 02:24 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I'm not sure how he took my criticism, since I have nothing invested
in any particular theory
As far as I can tell he didn't have the patience to understand your
criticism. You used too many words, so Krivit dismissed what you had to
Abd:
You really need to be more careful with your choice of words...
There is a staged demonstration, under the control of Rossi, with experimental
details
concealed...
No, there were at least two tests done with the same seasoned university
scientists present.
No, it was not a 'staged'
Robert E. Godes claims theory and device for .1 MHz AC to drive H2O
electrolysis next to Ni or Pd [ wires?], so protons become 4 neutron
particles and then He with heat, no local lattice damage, no
radiation, no radioactives, 200 C, 129 atm pressure: Rich Murray
2011.02.07
Michael McKubre is on
-Original Message-
From: Rich Murray
LISTEN to the power point at
http://www.brillouinenergy.com/BE25Tec.PPS
Whoa! Brilliant
Or should I say brillouient :)
Jones:
I just read the following from the linked pdf, and I think it ties in nicely
with your comments
about using a beta emitter...
When working with protium, an explicit source of electrons must be supplied as
the reaction starts
with four protons and no neutron but ends with two of each
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Or, the Rossi demo has caused these other groups feel like its time to
make their presence known.
Which is what got FP into a premature news conference.
T
From Abd:
Regarding the following psychological analysis:
...
How does Krivit pick which PhDs to believe? I think
it's obvious. He is constitutionally disposed to fight
for the underdog, the minority, the rejected.
It's been my experience that analyzing the psychological
Hi Terry,
Yes, but I'm not sure what, if anything, you are implying!
The difference is that several of these groups are NOT doing this as part of
the academic,
peer-reviewed community, so if your implying that this is bad or improper, then
I'd have to
disagree.
Some are coming at it more as
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Mark Iverson zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Hi Terry,
Yes, but I'm not sure what, if anything, you are implying!
I'm just saying, they should come forth when they are ready. From
what I am reading on this site lately, no one, including Mills, is
going to get
-Original Message-
From: Rich Murray
but recent tests show excess power of +23.5% to usually 14-15% to as low
as -1%, with electric energy inputs of 100-200 W range,
So the excess is only a few tens of watts - instead of Rossi's 10 kW. This
is really nothing -
Far better than Rossi
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
From what I am reading on this site lately, no one, including Mills, is
going to get patent protection.
... despite the Rossi showing in Italy, this (meaning the big enchilada)
is still Mills' game to lose. He has been funded better than anyone,
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
... despite the Rossi showing in Italy, this (meaning the big enchilada)
is still Mills' game to lose. He has been funded better than anyone, and it
shows.
Yes, but he has a murder of crows to consume.
OTH - If Rossi can
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
I'd allow Rossi to make all kinds of suggestions, but not to touch the
device, nor would I allow anyone affiliated with Rossi to get anywhere near
it.
Such tests have been done, and they are underway now. Rossi is another city.
Rossi claims,
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Take the
$$ and and unleash the lawyers!
Money talks.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1054588/
You win and still lose.
Take the money, enjoy the life and let the lawyers fight it out.
You'll die happy on your yacht and make
At 02:34 PM 2/7/2011, Mark Iverson wrote:
Abd...
I think you haven't been following this as closely as the active
contributors... Perhaps your time
is limited and you have not been able to read all the postings...
What did Rossi hope to accomplish by the demonstration? My
suspicion is, he
At 02:08 PM 2/7/2011, Mark Iverson wrote:
Abd:
You stated:
Right now, the Rossi device is a Black Box, with two apparent inputs:
electrical power, as a supposedly measured level, and water,
Did you forget the hydrogen? At least I would consider it an input
since it is not entirely
contained
On 02/07/2011 10:04 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I think of Steorn, which is still operating, apparently. One might ask
why and how, and I don't think it's rocket science.
Steorn has products -- I mean, /real/ products, that you can buy, and
which actually do something useful -- which they
At 02:22 PM 2/7/2011, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
Recall the tragic PR mess that transpired when scientists (most of
them physicists) in their initial curiosity attempted to independently
replicate a chemistry experiment, for which most had little experience
in executing, the Pons
At 02:37 PM 2/7/2011, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 02/07/2011 02:24 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I'm not sure how he took my criticism, since I have nothing invested
in any particular theory
As far as I can tell he didn't have the patience to understand your
criticism. You used too
At 02:52 PM 2/7/2011, Mark Iverson wrote:
Abd:
You really need to be more careful with your choice of words...
There is a staged demonstration, under the control of Rossi, with
experimental details
concealed...
No, there were at least two tests done with the same seasoned
university
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:05:21 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
Admittedly not a great fit, as catalysts go - but is it close enough for
government contracting ?
[snip]
One problem is that each alpha particle would at most produce two photons, and
each photon at most 1 fusion
Jed you are a good historian too...in which extent was the airplane
patented? The aspects that had been not patented belong to KNOW
what, HOW, why. The same situation can be apllied to this new energy source.
Interesting developments.
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Jed Rothwell
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360#comments
February 7th, 2011 at 6:06 PM
A LOT OF BLOGS ARE SAYING, AMONG INSULTS TO ME, THAT THERE ARE IN THE WORLD
SOME
LOTS OF “COLD FUSION” PROCESSES WHICH WORK PERFECTLY AND WHICH ARE FAR BETTER
THAN THE ONE THAT, MODESTLY, I MADE. GOOD.
This, and other words and actions of Rossi show that he is NOT an idealist.
On the contrary.
Idealist has three opposites: materialist, realist and pragmatist- and Rossi
tries to be these all, it seems.
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote:
Gerald Celentes Top Trends for 2011 Trends Journal
lists Cold fusion to be the greatest investment opportunity of the 21st
Century.
http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/gerald-celente-cold-fusion-to-be-the-greatest-investment-opportunity-of-the-21rst-century/
More links and much
Robert Duncan interview on Cash-Flow: “Public investment means
public ownership.”
https://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/2011/02/06/robert-duncan-interview-on-cash-flow-public-investment-means-public-ownership/
http://tinyurl.com/4hwlbns
“It’s interesting that when this was reviewed in 2004 by
I meant to say that Rossi is now in a different city. Not that he is a city.
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote:
Rossi has stated that he did NOT want to do the demo; that was Focardi's
idea.
Given one of the two major operating hypotheses, I don't accept any
statements about
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