Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-04 Thread Roarty, Francis X
On Sunday August 3 Jack said [snip] * * * FOR EXAMPLE: Identicle Twins are QUANTUM-ENTANGLED. . . via Torsion-Wave TRANS HYPERSPACE Spooky Action the same as nano sub-atomic particles and our QUANTUM-ENTANGLED CEREBRAL CORTEX'S. [/snip] Jack, I believe Paradox twins experience the same

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-04 Thread JackHarbach O'Sullivan
Yes: Paradox indicates that our 3D logic parameters indeed only 'seem' to elicite paradox since we are simultaneously(via transtemperal Casimir destortions) NEEDING TO CROSS CORRELATE seeming 'Through the Looking Glass' A-Dark Tachyonic Super Fluid. *Ha* CROSS CORRELATING a hypothesized DARK

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-04 Thread ChemE Stewart
Jack, Take this quiz and get back to me... http://darkmattersalot.com/2013/11/21/are-you-smarter-than-a-5th-grader-who-is-smarter-than-einstein/ On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:56 PM, JackHarbach O'Sullivan alset9te...@gmail.com wrote: Yes: Paradox indicates that our 3D logic parameters indeed only

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-04 Thread JackHarbach O'Sullivan
AT THE QUANTUM CASIMIR PLASMA-BREACH BORDER: We are indeed observing QUASI-TESSERACT shifts in nano-geometry which are profoundly RE-CONSTRUCTING atomic structures. . . sudden seemingly paradoxical isotopic rearrangements of atomic structures indicate this. . . Wild card John Hutchison/Hutchison

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-04 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Sure it might be harder to directly replicate his results, but the same force from an asymmetrical spark discharge was noted. ***Would that be the Asymmetrical Thrust Capacitor proposal that I submitted? On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:09 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: I was not aware

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-03 Thread JackHarbach O'Sullivan
NASA's The PLASMA-BREACH Torus-Eye sub-singularity reactor is MACRO-QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT. NASA's 'IMPOSSIBLE SPACE DRIVE merely proves Trans-Spectrum Einstein-Rosen TORUS EYE-BREACH bleed through from (PROVEN) AexoDarkEnergy Parallel-Adjacent hyperspace aka THE~Quantum~BACK OF THE TAPESTRY. . .

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-02 Thread Kevin O'Malley
vorts that can contribute. Dave -Original Message- From: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com To: Vortex List vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 7:22 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive this is the 3rd test, done with different metrology

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-02 Thread Alain Sepeda
few bad point for the test are : 1- the thrust is much weaker than EmDrive 2- the blank reactor works too. the 1 is probably linked to the bad Q compares to EmDrive the 2 maybe is simply that Fetta does not understand well his reactor, and that it worsk for another reason than the one he imagine.

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-02 Thread John Berry
Alain, where did you read that the blank/dummy control drive also worked? From what I read it seemed to indicate that it passed (got negative result) on that drive. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: few bad point for the test are : 1- the thrust is

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-02 Thread John Berry
It looks like I can answer my own question. http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20140006052.pdf Thrust was observed on both test articles, even though one of the test articles was designed with the expectation that it would not produce thrust. Specifically, one test article

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-02 Thread John Berry
However, apparently a dummy load produced zero thrust... And I think the other designs need to be better understood, should they really be null? http://i.imgur.com/daNmDty.png On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 10:09 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like I can answer my own

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-02 Thread John Berry
Different, but this made me think of Borbas Miklos, a simple ion free anomalous thrust experiment: http://web.archive.org/web/20090902150248/http://bmiklos2000.freeweb.hu/unipolar.htm On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 10:16 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: However, apparently a dummy load

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-02 Thread John Berry
More on the null test... http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/2c8xah/nasa_validates_impossible_space_drive_wired_uk/cjdg3bh On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 11:21 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Different, but this made me think of Borbas Miklos, a simple ion free anomalous thrust

RE: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-02 Thread Jones Beene
From: John Berry More on the null test... http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/2c8xah/nasa_validates_impossible _space_drive_wired_uk/cjdg3bh They say the null test was designed to be null, and yet it still showed thrust.

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-02 Thread Alan Fletcher
What a surprise : Jennifer Ouellette comes out against it Physics Week in Review: August 2, 2014 http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cocktail-party-physics/2014/08/02/physics-week-in-review-august-2-2014/ Perhaps your interest was piqued by the news that a Fuel-Less Space Drive with

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-02 Thread Alain Sepeda
as the comment says, it rather says that the theory of fetta is wrong... that fetta cannot design a reactor that don't work by changing what he consider a key detail. it is a theory failure, not a practical failure. the resonance is important, and this enough let me consider something is real, at

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-02 Thread Alain Sepeda
part of the current tragedy of science is all kind of mainstream media http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusion.pdf#page=4 first of all scientific journalists, then science tabloid (science, nature, Cells), then influential mainstream media (NYT)... don't look further, consensus is

RE: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-01 Thread Roarty, Francis X
particles still occur between the plates but undergo Lorentzian contraction from our perspective. Fran _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:54 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-01 Thread David Roberson
pen itsat...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 4:16 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive Okay, so can we get them to test the emDrive now? On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: See

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-01 Thread David Roberson
To: Vortex List vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 7:22 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive this is the 3rd test, done with different metrology, and with many cross checking documented on EmDrive (like changing turn...) as Ed Storms says in his books, when

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-01 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: Alan Fletcher a...@well.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 8:17 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive At 01:16 PM 7/31/2014, you wrote: Okay, so can we get them to test the emDrive now? They tested the Cannae version

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-01 Thread David Roberson
: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 9:01 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive The Eugene Podkletnov anti gravity theory is based on rotating magnetic fields. The connection might be that RF is produced by rotating

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-01 Thread Axil Axil
-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 9:01 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive The Eugene Podkletnov anti gravity theory is based on rotating magnetic fields. The connection might be that RF is produced by rotating electrons. The microwave vibrations

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-01 Thread David Roberson
: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 12:51 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive I suggested something like negative gravity. The force that NASA has stumbled onto could be the force produced causing the expansion

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-01 Thread Axil Axil
, 2014 12:51 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive I suggested something like negative gravity. The force that NASA has stumbled onto could be the force produced causing the expansion of the universe. If there is a process that produces RF all over the universe

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-01 Thread John Berry
I was not aware of Poher, but given that shouldn't Morton be considered a further and earlier verification of this effect? Sure it might be harder to directly replicate his results, but the same force from an asymmetrical spark discharge was noted. It might also be worth noting Piggot:

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-08-01 Thread David Roberson
Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 12:51 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive I suggested something like negative gravity. The force that NASA has stumbled onto could be the force produced causing the expansion of the universe. If there is a process that produces RF all

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Axil Axil
The Ni/H reactor produces prodigious amounts of RF. This level of production could even be increased by adding NMR active materials to the structure of the reactor. This current disadvantage in Ni/H technology might well be turned into an important feature. The Ni/H reaction could provide a direct

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread leaking pen
Okay, so can we get them to test the emDrive now? On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: See: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/31/nasa-validates-impossible-space-drive Eric

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread David Roberson
Of course microwave RF energy is a form of electrical power. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 3:46 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive The Ni/H reactor produces

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread David Roberson
the root of the thrust. Dave -Original Message- From: leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 4:16 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive Okay, so can we get them to test the emDrive now? On Thu, Jul 31

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread leaking pen
vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 4:16 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive Okay, so can we get them to test the emDrive now? On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: See: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Ron Wormus
Axil, Is there any data to backup your prodigious RF statement of fact? Spectrum analyzer etc. Ron --On Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:45 PM -0400 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The Ni/H reactor produces prodigious amounts of RF. This level of production could even be increased by adding

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Alain Sepeda
to generate the large amount of RF must enter the device from somewhere and that is likely the root of the thrust. Dave -Original Message- From: leaking pen itsat...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 4:16 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates

RE: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Jones Beene
There is an intriguing cross-connection between two other controversial lines of anti-gravity experiment: Eugene Podkletnov (mentioned in the Wired article) and Claude Poher (not mentioned). Here is a review of Poher’s superconductor. http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1101/1101.2419.pdf NASA has

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 01:16 PM 7/31/2014, you wrote: Okay, so can we get them to test the emDrive now? They tested the Cannae version (as reported by Wired) -- 40 micronewton at 28W , but ALSO a tapered version, which is an emDrive -- 91 micronewton at 17W. See page 1 of the Nasa paper

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Axil Axil
The Eugene Podkletnov anti gravity theory is based on rotating magnetic fields. The connection might be that RF is produced by rotating electrons. The microwave vibrations will induce spin rotation in the matter that fills space and that might include the spins of virtual particles emerging from

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Well, since we're talking about NASA impossible space drives... Excerpt of heavily encrypted PDF file Proposal by Quantum Potential Corporation in response to 2011 NASA http://www.quantum-potential.com/ACT%20NASA.pdf NASA, U.S. Navy and U.S. Air Force have commissioned a number of interesting

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: NASA has reportedly confirmed an effect of reactionless acceleration with Poher’s device ... I have to hand it to groups at NASA for being relatively independent of the opinion of the physics mainstream. Apparently there

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Lennart Thornros
Whithout any technical knowledge I agree with you Eric. I wonder how they could keep the good spirit in this big organization once Lwerner Brown and Na8sa was the same, was that how much he colored the culture as he was certaily a contrarian. On Jul 31, 2014 8:31 PM, Eric Walker